(05-09-2019 03:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 02:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-08-2019 05:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-08-2019 04:59 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(05-08-2019 04:29 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I've reported a number of recent posts that I felt were personal attacks on me. Only one person bothered to respond to me (a mod who just happened to be the person I was reporting).

I still maintain that the posts the 4 or 5 people here post on Trump pale in comparison to what Obama faced in the Spin Room his 8 years. And of course that comment will now be met with 'But Obama was a zero while Trump is a hero' blah blah blah. Not to me, or the other 4 or 5 folks who post anti-Trump stuff.

You don't like our posts? That's what the ignore button is for. Lord knows I've used it myself at times on enough of you.

I'm on here fairly regularly and rarely see any posts reported in this forum. If a post in a forum I moderate is reported, I get a note at the top and then the post is highlighted in pink for me. If you're reporting a mod, maybe the best idea is to report it and CC another mod.

Your observation about the volume is noted, but immaterial. The content on Fox or CNBC would be polar opposites. Rather than more left leaners leaving or turning into parodies of themselves, you might recruit more left-leaners. Certainly you don't have to, but I don't see why it's 'the other side's' job to ensure equality. Unless there is a STRONG correlation between political leanings and sports (which there may be)... then it seems to me the left has a recruiting problem.

As for me (and I know you aren't singling me out) once again.... I 'like' and WANT posts from the left... but I don't want the trolling drive-bys that has become de riguer. I'm sure the right does it as well, but while i don't have them on ignore, I don't really care that much to engage with people who agree with me on issues. If the break down really is 12:1, that means that I can ignore 11 drive by posts from the right and only engage with the one good one. On the other side of the coin, and assuming a normal distribution of drive-bys.... the left has to post 12 times for me to get one to engage with.

The only thing worse than a debate without a counter-point is anonymous and childish drivel under the guise of debate. I believe you and I have disagreed even vehemently on some issues, and I'm sure I have had my poor moments... but I'm betting our substantive disagreements have far outweighed any name calling. I'd sure hope so and be embarrassed if it hadn't.

He's referring to me, and I left it up until someone else took it down.

But let's get real shall we. The first thing I tried to do during the last down time when few mods were present here was to clean up some of the AUP violating language and end some of the cat fights. I was roundly derided for doing so. "People needed a place to blow off steam. If you aren't man enough to take it you shouldn't post here. We don't want a board for snowflakes." Those were a few of the responses to the clean up which at that time was wholly non partisan. After that the only posts I moderated were those left up for 24 hours or longer.

The bellyaching goes on no matter what the moderation and the ad hominems never slowed down. You guys seemed to like riling up each other and having running feuds so I said what the heck. When in Rome. And what gets my goat is that the lefties can hurl as many as those on the right, but howl like whipped puppies when their serve is returned in kind. Victim mentality I suppose.

Since it is a political board as much as anything, I find it to be less offensive than the danged network news, and much less offensive than the jackazzery in the House and Senate.

So the board needs to decide what it wants. If you want tighter moderation that's fine. But when it comes take it without screaming about it. Take it without putting up signatures that complain about moderation actions.

And the snarkiness goes beyond ad hominems and spills over from other boards. It would help if you are enemies with someone on some conference board if you left that stuff on that forum.

I've found board unity here however. It centers on discussions about food, libations, and what grinds your gears. Everything else is a free for all.

And one more thing. About 85% of the reported posts here are for unsubstantiated arguments or statements in Linked threads, however so many times the linked threads are not to a news source but to some blog with exceptionally biased views mostly left, but some right. If that's the case I see little difference between the OP and the offending post.

It’s the snowflake syndrome on the left. They are quick to tell mommy and daddy if their feelings get hurt and try to ban the offender. Those on the right are much more likely to let it go

It's thinking like this fueling much of the problem. This continual notion that my side is perfect and your side are lunatics. And I'm not saying the left is innocent here, but it sure seems like the right thinks they are.

And how exactly can someone "try" to get someone banned here? If there are no grounds for it yet that person continually attempts frivolously to get them gone with bogus reports, the mods will not stand for it...and will likely put more restrictions on the reporter!

I'm not referring so much to this site, but leftists more broadly, like those on Twitter and Facebook.

(05-08-2019 04:45 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-08-2019 04:29 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I've reported a number of recent posts that I felt were personal attacks on me. Only one person bothered to respond to me (a mod who just happened to be the person I was reporting).
I still maintain that the posts the 4 or 5 people here post on Trump pale in comparison to what Obama faced in the Spin Room his 8 years. And of course that comment will now be met with 'But Obama was a zero while Trump is a hero' blah blah blah. Not to me, or the other 4 or 5 folks who post anti-Trump stuff.
You don't like our posts? That's what the ignore button is for. Lord knows I've used it myself at times on enough of you.

Obama faced worse than Trump on here because the majority of posters here lean right. I would argue that Trump faces worse than Obama on social media across the board, and in the MSM, because they lean primarily left. I wish the cheap ad hominems would stop altogether, and we could just discuss substantive issues, but I think that's setting the bar too high.

90% of my posts got ad hom replies and the mods didnt care. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I post maybe once a month now and usually when its neuro related.

(05-09-2019 05:49 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  90% of my posts got ad hom replies and the mods didnt care. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I post maybe once a month now and usually when its neuro related.

In the old days, when there were more leftist posters on here, I'd say the same for mine. In particular, there were a few who went straight to the ad hominem. But as the lefties have drawn down, not so much.

I used to get crap from both sides. Lefties would attack anything I said about the economy or taxes or budget or 2nd Amendment. Righties would attack anything I said about gay rights or 4th Amendment. These days I don't get many ad hominems, and I probably get more from the right than the left. But I think that's more a function of numbers than anything else.

(05-09-2019 05:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:49 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  90% of my posts got ad hom replies and the mods didnt care. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I post maybe once a month now and usually when its neuro related.

In the old days, when there were more leftist posters on here, I'd say the same for mine. In particular, there were a few who went straight to the ad hominem. But as the lefties have drawn down, not so much.

I used to get crap from both sides. Lefties would attack anything I said about the economy or taxes or budget or 2nd Amendment. Righties would attack anything I said about gay rights or 4th Amendment. These days I don't get many ad hominems, and I probably get more from the right than the left. But I think that's more a function of numbers than anything else.

I'd be fine if they were at least on topic insults lol c'est la vie! I've been more productive at least.

(05-09-2019 05:57 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:49 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  90% of my posts got ad hom replies and the mods didnt care. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I post maybe once a month now and usually when its neuro related.

In the old days, when there were more leftist posters on here, I'd say the same for mine. In particular, there were a few who went straight to the ad hominem. But as the lefties have drawn down, not so much.

I used to get crap from both sides. Lefties would attack anything I said about the economy or taxes or budget or 2nd Amendment. Righties would attack anything I said about gay rights or 4th Amendment. These days I don't get many ad hominems, and I probably get more from the right than the left. But I think that's more a function of numbers than anything else.

I'd be fine if they were at least on topic insults lol c'est la vie! I've been more productive at least.

Yes! My income went up $300,000 after I stopped spending so much time in here. Blood pressure went down.

(05-09-2019 08:16 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:57 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:49 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  90% of my posts got ad hom replies and the mods didnt care. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I post maybe once a month now and usually when its neuro related.

In the old days, when there were more leftist posters on here, I'd say the same for mine. In particular, there were a few who went straight to the ad hominem. But as the lefties have drawn down, not so much.

I used to get crap from both sides. Lefties would attack anything I said about the economy or taxes or budget or 2nd Amendment. Righties would attack anything I said about gay rights or 4th Amendment. These days I don't get many ad hominems, and I probably get more from the right than the left. But I think that's more a function of numbers than anything else.

I'd be fine if they were at least on topic insults lol c'est la vie! I've been more productive at least.

Yes! My income went up $300,000 after I stopped spending so much time in here. Blood pressure went down.

I'm in the wrong field.... :/ lol!

(05-09-2019 08:35 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 08:16 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:57 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:49 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  90% of my posts got ad hom replies and the mods didnt care. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I post maybe once a month now and usually when its neuro related.

In the old days, when there were more leftist posters on here, I'd say the same for mine. In particular, there were a few who went straight to the ad hominem. But as the lefties have drawn down, not so much.

I used to get crap from both sides. Lefties would attack anything I said about the economy or taxes or budget or 2nd Amendment. Righties would attack anything I said about gay rights or 4th Amendment. These days I don't get many ad hominems, and I probably get more from the right than the left. But I think that's more a function of numbers than anything else.

I'd be fine if they were at least on topic insults lol c'est la vie! I've been more productive at least.

Yes! My income went up $300,000 after I stopped spending so much time in here. Blood pressure went down.

I'm in the wrong field.... :/ lol!

True! Have you tried right field?

(05-09-2019 08:35 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 08:16 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:57 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:49 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  90% of my posts got ad hom replies and the mods didnt care. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I post maybe once a month now and usually when its neuro related.

In the old days, when there were more leftist posters on here, I'd say the same for mine. In particular, there were a few who went straight to the ad hominem. But as the lefties have drawn down, not so much.

I used to get crap from both sides. Lefties would attack anything I said about the economy or taxes or budget or 2nd Amendment. Righties would attack anything I said about gay rights or 4th Amendment. These days I don't get many ad hominems, and I probably get more from the right than the left. But I think that's more a function of numbers than anything else.

I'd be fine if they were at least on topic insults lol c'est la vie! I've been more productive at least.

Yes! My income went up $300,000 after I stopped spending so much time in here. Blood pressure went down.

I'm in the wrong field.... :/ lol!

Just be able to focus and avoid negativity.

The same people on the right are here as when Oblunder was in the Oval Office, but the ones who lean left have faded into the woodwork after the defeat of Hillary and the failure of the coup attempt.

(05-09-2019 04:58 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 02:29 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 09:19 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 06:22 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-08-2019 01:54 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Outnumbered 12/1 and he’s gotta support the other posters’ social security benefits through work. That’s all you get for now.

See, that's your problem. I paid into SS for my entire working life and now you want to tell me that I'm living off the labors of someone else?? Fuq off asshat. You seem to have a very limited worldview.

Facts are facts. If we all stopped working, you wouldn’t have any SS. Show some gratitude. At least my 75yo and 85yo neighbors thank me every morning as I head to work. I’m very happy to support your internet time today.

And that's my fault how? As regards supporting the elderly, you lot better get back to heterosexual sex and having babies or you wont have anyone to support you in your golden years.

Got one on the way.

Congrats, now you only need 1.2 more to sustain your golden years.

(05-08-2019 12:45 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-08-2019 12:37 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Here's my observation about the left in the spin room. There's what... Like 4 posters aligned with the left still posting in the spin room... Apparently the content that *some* on the left are providing is the bigger problem here though.

Good job folks... Enjoy your echo chamber/alt-right circle jerk.

Thanks for ironically proving my point about no substance to offer.

Oh Snap.

(05-09-2019 08:16 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:57 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:49 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  90% of my posts got ad hom replies and the mods didnt care. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I post maybe once a month now and usually when its neuro related.

In the old days, when there were more leftist posters on here, I'd say the same for mine. In particular, there were a few who went straight to the ad hominem. But as the lefties have drawn down, not so much.

I used to get crap from both sides. Lefties would attack anything I said about the economy or taxes or budget or 2nd Amendment. Righties would attack anything I said about gay rights or 4th Amendment. These days I don't get many ad hominems, and I probably get more from the right than the left. But I think that's more a function of numbers than anything else.

I'd be fine if they were at least on topic insults lol c'est la vie! I've been more productive at least.

Yes! My income went up $300,000 after I stopped spending so much time in here. Blood pressure went down.

So you're saying you found a job... well done.

(05-10-2019 06:16 AM)appst89 Wrote:  The same people on the right are here as when Oblunder was in the Oval Office, but the ones who lean left have faded into the woodwork after the defeat of Hillary and the failure of the coup attempt.

Yep, with the exception of maybe three or four lefties who remain the rest have largely tucked tail and ran.

(05-10-2019 06:59 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 08:16 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:57 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-09-2019 05:49 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  90% of my posts got ad hom replies and the mods didnt care. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I post maybe once a month now and usually when its neuro related.

In the old days, when there were more leftist posters on here, I'd say the same for mine. In particular, there were a few who went straight to the ad hominem. But as the lefties have drawn down, not so much.

I used to get crap from both sides. Lefties would attack anything I said about the economy or taxes or budget or 2nd Amendment. Righties would attack anything I said about gay rights or 4th Amendment. These days I don't get many ad hominems, and I probably get more from the right than the left. But I think that's more a function of numbers than anything else.

I'd be fine if they were at least on topic insults lol c'est la vie! I've been more productive at least.

Yes! My income went up $300,000 after I stopped spending so much time in here. Blood pressure went down.

So you're saying you found a job... well done.

Somebody has to support your socialist lifestyle while you complain about the gov’t.

(05-08-2019 11:52 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I'll mad lib this with some suggested fill-ins:

I see round about a dozen threads on Page 1 right now that are decisively anti-Trump in the headline .... that then contain little else than ___(celebrity/politician/SocialMediaPlatform/LeftWing"Journalist")___ ____(slam/crush/destroy/mock/ridicule)____ Trump.

No policy substance what-so-ever. And that's soooooo telling. You'd think that with us now standing on the doorstep of Trump re-election campaign that by now Democrats would have come up with some substantive issues to challenge Trump on. Maybe something to erode all the white union voters that crossed over in the rust belt. It's as bad as the Republicans trying to replace ObamaCare out there .... nobody with even a finger on a lever of power has anything of even half-hearted merit to offer. Medicare for all! The Green New Deal! Just like "Repeal and replace" they are labels papering over an empty and growing chasm.

I found this difficult to imagine while laughing hysterically at Hillary losing ... but the Democrats have dug their hole even deeper for the rematch. Remember when you felt all smug when Obama dispatched hapless Mittens? Get ready for a Trump re-election by an even larger margin. And get those buckets ready for the tears and screaming from the snowflakes when Trump falsely proclaims his bigger win is an emphatic mandate for his policies (instead of an emphatic rejection of the socialist left).

And this is what usually happens when a thread is posted by someone on the left, where an actual substantive discussion could take place. No shots were taken at either side in the OP, yet these are the first two responses...

https://csnbbs.com/thread-876007.html

(05-10-2019 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-08-2019 11:52 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I'll mad lib this with some suggested fill-ins:

I see round about a dozen threads on Page 1 right now that are decisively anti-Trump in the headline .... that then contain little else than ___(celebrity/politician/SocialMediaPlatform/LeftWing"Journalist")___ ____(slam/crush/destroy/mock/ridicule)____ Trump.

No policy substance what-so-ever. And that's soooooo telling. You'd think that with us now standing on the doorstep of Trump re-election campaign that by now Democrats would have come up with some substantive issues to challenge Trump on. Maybe something to erode all the white union voters that crossed over in the rust belt. It's as bad as the Republicans trying to replace ObamaCare out there .... nobody with even a finger on a lever of power has anything of even half-hearted merit to offer. Medicare for all! The Green New Deal! Just like "Repeal and replace" they are labels papering over an empty and growing chasm.

I found this difficult to imagine while laughing hysterically at Hillary losing ... but the Democrats have dug their hole even deeper for the rematch. Remember when you felt all smug when Obama dispatched hapless Mittens? Get ready for a Trump re-election by an even larger margin. And get those buckets ready for the tears and screaming from the snowflakes when Trump falsely proclaims his bigger win is an emphatic mandate for his policies (instead of an emphatic rejection of the socialist left).

And this is what usually happens when a thread is posted by someone on the left, where an actual substantive discussion could take place. No shots were taken at either side in the OP, yet these are the first two responses...

https://csnbbs.com/thread-876007.html

Honestly Tom, you've been waiting for the other shoe to drop on the talks between NK and Trump.. You've been giddy anytime something went wrong, so yes that is the response you're going to get from most of the people, after how many months leading up to the 2016 election, the buckle up threads (which are not on you), and countless other things...

I've chosen not to respond to that thread because I'm waiting to see what ends up happening.. I know the US seized a NK coal ship the other day after some missiles were fired and the US tested some missiles of their own.

I don't think you're as innocent as you're pretending to be in this thread to GTS either.

But what do I know.. I'm just a random poster on a message board.

(05-10-2019 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-08-2019 11:52 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I'll mad lib this with some suggested fill-ins:

I see round about a dozen threads on Page 1 right now that are decisively anti-Trump in the headline .... that then contain little else than ___(celebrity/politician/SocialMediaPlatform/LeftWing"Journalist")___ ____(slam/crush/destroy/mock/ridicule)____ Trump.

No policy substance what-so-ever. And that's soooooo telling. You'd think that with us now standing on the doorstep of Trump re-election campaign that by now Democrats would have come up with some substantive issues to challenge Trump on. Maybe something to erode all the white union voters that crossed over in the rust belt. It's as bad as the Republicans trying to replace ObamaCare out there .... nobody with even a finger on a lever of power has anything of even half-hearted merit to offer. Medicare for all! The Green New Deal! Just like "Repeal and replace" they are labels papering over an empty and growing chasm.

I found this difficult to imagine while laughing hysterically at Hillary losing ... but the Democrats have dug their hole even deeper for the rematch. Remember when you felt all smug when Obama dispatched hapless Mittens? Get ready for a Trump re-election by an even larger margin. And get those buckets ready for the tears and screaming from the snowflakes when Trump falsely proclaims his bigger win is an emphatic mandate for his policies (instead of an emphatic rejection of the socialist left).

And this is what usually happens when a thread is posted by someone on the left, where an actual substantive discussion could take place. No shots were taken at either side in the OP, yet these are the first two responses...

https://csnbbs.com/thread-876007.html

And?

You don’t think shi, Putin snd Kim would prefer creepy Joe or a complete rook like buttigieg? That’s how I read the actions of kim, that’s what the article/post was about.

What is there to discuss otherwise? Trajectory? Lol

Looking again, mine was post # 3, still don’t see much wrong with any of the responses.

(05-09-2019 03:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:   It's thinking like this fueling much of the problem. This continual notion that my side is perfect and your side are lunatics. And I'm not saying the left is innocent here, but it sure seems like the right thinks they are.

And how exactly can someone "try" to get someone banned here? If there are no grounds for it yet that person continually attempts frivolously to get them gone with bogus reports, the mods will not stand for it...and will likely put more restrictions on the reporter!

I'll agree with this 100%... but I'd add something....

Let's assume for a minute that there are 10 left posters and 50 right... no idea if that is close, but it's close enough for what I'm going to say.... and that the left and right are equally 'bad'.... half of their posts are snarky/trolling etc etc etc

When someone from the left posts a thread, there are 25 possible snarky responders. From the left, only 5. neither side is better/worse... but because there are so many more from the right (at least a whole lot more than in MOST media forums) it 'feels' worse to you from the right.

but it isn't.... and I don't think its the mods job to maintain equity of posting.

CUSANEWS' posts are a perfect example. That poster is a one-trick pony... who often posts half a dozen times before (s)he finally goads someone into a response. It's much easier for 5 people to ignore a poster than it is for 25.

You have at times felt that I single you out/follow you around... but the reality is that we seem to share some interests... though clearly different perspectives.... and like here, you seem honestly interested in good discussion and when you are, I find you to have an interesting perspective that I appreciate. Lots of posters issues and style don't interest me in the least.... or at least pretty rarely.

As to 'trying' to get someone banned...

I've seen a few people try and elicit a response and then report the response. Maybe their initial comment really was benign, but it's sometimes hard to tell the emotion behind someone's words on the internet. I personally tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, but still contact them about the offense to let them know how how their comment was perceived. It is usually their reaction to that contact that gets them warned or not

(05-10-2019 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And this is what usually happens when a thread is posted by someone on the left, where an actual substantive discussion could take place. No shots were taken at either side in the OP, yet these are the first two responses...

https://csnbbs.com/thread-876007.html

In fairness Tom, you linked an article and quoted a snippet of it that was mostly informational. If you wanted substantive conversation, maybe you could have provided some yourself. Does it concern you? If so, why? What should we do about it? What are the broader implications etc etc etc.

I think when people post links and snippets with no personal comments, it lends itself to others 'guessing' at the point the OP is trying to make... I mean, we all have access to yahoo.com or MSNBC or wherever else one chooses to get their 'news' from... I sure don't get my news from CSNBBS. I come here to see what other people find important/meaningful..... and of course, if one is inclined to see things as left/right, they're going to assign all the baggage they choose to assign, since you were silent.

It becomes even more problematic when people ask you about your post and rather than answer it, you question THEIR meaning and motives.

I'm not blaming you per se.... but you chose the thread... and that's how I see it happening

(05-10-2019 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-08-2019 11:52 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I'll mad lib this with some suggested fill-ins:

I see round about a dozen threads on Page 1 right now that are decisively anti-Trump in the headline .... that then contain little else than ___(celebrity/politician/SocialMediaPlatform/LeftWing"Journalist")___ ____(slam/crush/destroy/mock/ridicule)____ Trump.

No policy substance what-so-ever. And that's soooooo telling. You'd think that with us now standing on the doorstep of Trump re-election campaign that by now Democrats would have come up with some substantive issues to challenge Trump on. Maybe something to erode all the white union voters that crossed over in the rust belt. It's as bad as the Republicans trying to replace ObamaCare out there .... nobody with even a finger on a lever of power has anything of even half-hearted merit to offer. Medicare for all! The Green New Deal! Just like "Repeal and replace" they are labels papering over an empty and growing chasm.

I found this difficult to imagine while laughing hysterically at Hillary losing ... but the Democrats have dug their hole even deeper for the rematch. Remember when you felt all smug when Obama dispatched hapless Mittens? Get ready for a Trump re-election by an even larger margin. And get those buckets ready for the tears and screaming from the snowflakes when Trump falsely proclaims his bigger win is an emphatic mandate for his policies (instead of an emphatic rejection of the socialist left).

And this is what usually happens when a thread is posted by someone on the left, where an actual substantive discussion could take place. No shots were taken at either side in the OP, yet these are the first two responses...

https://csnbbs.com/thread-876007.html

It's not the board's fault when they aren't interested or concerned enough about any particular topic to respond seriously.

That's what's known as a whiff on an OP! Tee up another ball and take a stroke!

And by the way, you shouldn't be at all surprised. Conservatives don't really see Korea as anything but a sideshow. Healthcare, anti-gun legislation, legislation attacking fundamental rights, and new taxes are much more likely to provoke conversation from the right, than things that make us feel hurt or wronged, or afraid. Conservatives accept that life is hard and there are no guarantees. It's in the nature of risk takers to accept risk. It's only the nanny staters who want the military to guarantee them safety, and government to guarantee them living quarters and food, and government to guarantee them health care, that get their panties in a wad about North Korea.

The huge difference between the right and left will never go away. We work our asses off to prepare for a future with no guarantees. You guys want to tax our asses off to guarantee you things you never earned or eventualities for which you never prepared. That's why we are polarized and don't want more mouths to feed while you want more votes to buy. It's not going to end well.

(05-10-2019 01:46 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(05-10-2019 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And this is what usually happens when a thread is posted by someone on the left, where an actual substantive discussion could take place. No shots were taken at either side in the OP, yet these are the first two responses...

https://csnbbs.com/thread-876007.html

In fairness Tom, you linked an article and quoted a snippet of it that was mostly informational. If you wanted substantive conversation, maybe you could have provided some yourself. Does it concern you? If so, why? What should we do about it? What are the broader implications etc etc etc.

I think when people post links and snippets with no personal comments, it lends itself to others 'guessing' at the point the OP is trying to make... I mean, we all have access to yahoo.com or MSNBC or wherever else one chooses to get their 'news' from... I sure don't get my news from CSNBBS. I come here to see what other people find important/meaningful..... and of course, if one is inclined to see things as left/right, they're going to assign all the baggage they choose to assign, since you were silent.

It becomes even more problematic when people ask you about your post and rather than answer it, you question THEIR meaning and motives.

I'm not blaming you per se.... but you chose the thread... and that's how I see it happening

So my lack of a paragraph citing my perspective on the subject warranted a dismissive response about China? When the OP was about North Korea?

And my posts pretty much always just post a story with a quote from it for others to look at and comment upon. It's just how I've always posted things. Plus I'm pretty sure most on here already know how I feel about most things, but should that then give them carte blanche to immediately go off script? I don't think this is the normal MO from the left posters. And it doesn't just happen to me. I see it with Mach, CB, JD, Swag, Lazy and Fitty when he was here too.

And if it's not that, it's then the standard dismissives of TDS or Orange Man bad, or Maybe this will get him impeached, etc. It's just the same old same old and it's tiresome.

And I'm not absolving myself of blame here either, but when this is basically all I am ever met with, that then makes me want to act the same way back.