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(09-26-2018 09:23 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  JMU coaches career winning percentages

Campanelli .655 took promotion at Cal
Driesell .589 fired after 9 seasons
Brady .523 fired after 8 seasons
Dillard .467 fired after 8 seasons
Thurston .413 fired in middle of 3rd season
Rowe .308
Keener .267 fired after 4 seasons

But wait, Rowe hasn’t had enough time you say?
JMU record in 1st two years

Campanelli 35-17
Driesell 36-25
Dillard 27-27
Brady 34-35
Thurston 25-33
Rowe 20-45
Keener 11-45

Here is another comparison vs peers in the CAA. 2 of these coaches were hired at the same time as Rowe, took over losing programs in terrible shape, yet have performed better than Rowe. Sad story.
Record over last 2 years...

Charleston 51-17
UNCW 40-27
Northeastern 38-26
Towson 38-27
W&M 36-26
Hofstra 34-29
Elon 32-32
Delaware 27-39
Drexel 22-43
JMU 20-45

I think the two coaches hired the same year as Lou are at UD and Drexel. Right?

Thurston was fired for calling out the fans in public. He went on a tirade after a loss very early in his 3rd season.

I feel very good about the recruits Lou is bringing into JMU and have to believe that better players will mean more wins.
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Yep it was Drexel and Delaware that replaced coaches the same time as JMU. Many would say (fairly so) those programs before their coaching changes were in a lot worse shape than JMU. Delaware fired Irvin late in the off season and didn't even have a AD in place to hire someone for several weeks afterward so they lost some kids to transfer during the interim period and played Inglesby's first year with lesser depth than you typically would.

We've been through this before a bunch - Rowe's teams have underperformed on the court his first two seasons. He was and is inexperienced, he did inherit a winning team with a few solid Senior role players and then had to change the style, culture and turnover the roster in year 2.
I think he's done that and increased the talent level.

The time has come to win. Even the biggest Rowe supporters (I count myself among them) won't have excuses for another bad season. Even a mediocre season will be hard to take. This needs to be and should be a winning season. Even with an injury or two this team should have enough depth to not let that derail them.

I'm a believer that a sound and stable program is more than just wins and losses. I think he's gone about it the right way for the most part- a couple of recruiting/roster misses early IMO, the scheduling has been poor, but most of the other building blocks have been put in place the right way (staff, culture, recruits). Now is the time to see it on the court in terms of wins and losses.
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Just had a few minutes to do a search for YouTube videos of our new verbal commit, Quinn Richey, out of the Atlanta area. If you get a moment, check out some of his clips.

Really excited to have a pure shooter who will be a 3-pt threat and force defenses to spread their D out to account for him.

Nice!!
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(09-26-2018 06:58 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  I assume Banks will either be out or very limited at the start of official opening of practices and perhaps through much of October. I don't know if Bogey or anybody else has any updates.

Hoping he'll be ready for the start of the season, but would rather have him back 100% than possibly dealing with a lingering issue when the REAL schedule starts on December 28th.

Banks is about two/three weeks ahead of schedule which is significant. He is currently just form shooting around the basket. The wrist surgery has understandably reduced for now the flexibility in his right wrist. Hopefully the rehab will get his wrist back to where it needs to be sooner rather than later. You can't really be a shooter unless you have full flexibility in your wrist. I think he will be cleared for practice later this week.

Matt Lewis is without question the starting point guard for JMU. He is also unquestionably the best player on the team. Last year was the first year that he ever really had to play the point and at times he suffered through some growing pains. This was also true for the other freshmen. Matt is special and if we can keep him for four years we are going to be a fun team to watch. Deshon Parker has been a real pleasant surprise. On the negative side he needs to improve his medium range jump shot. The form is not bad but more shots need to drop. On the positive side he is a natural point guard, a natural leader and is also going to be be fun to watch for four years. Deshon can play! When Matt goes out I will be very surprised if Deshon is the not the first guard off of the bench.
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Great stuff as usual, Bogey. Much appreciated.
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The Dukes under the leadership of GOAT HCLR are going to crush
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Good clip from the Local Sports about the Dukes practice underway. Banks was taking part in a layup drill without the wrap on his wrist.

https://www.whsv.com/content/sports/Prac...51131.html
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(09-26-2018 09:45 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Yep it was Drexel and Delaware that replaced coaches the same time as JMU. Many would say (fairly so) those programs before their coaching changes were in a lot worse shape than JMU. Delaware fired Irvin late in the off season and didn't even have a AD in place to hire someone for several weeks afterward so they lost some kids to transfer during the interim period and played Inglesby's first year with lesser depth than you typically would.

We've been through this before a bunch - Rowe's teams have underperformed on the court his first two seasons. He was and is inexperienced, he did inherit a winning team with a few solid Senior role players and then had to change the style, culture and turnover the roster in year 2.
I think he's done that and increased the talent level.

The time has come to win. Even the biggest Rowe supporters (I count myself among them) won't have excuses for another bad season. Even a mediocre season will be hard to take. This needs to be and should be a winning season. Even with an injury or two this team should have enough depth to not let that derail them.

I'm a believer that a sound and stable program is more than just wins and losses. I think he's gone about it the right way for the most part- a couple of recruiting/roster misses early IMO, the scheduling has been poor, but most of the other building blocks have been put in place the right way (staff, culture, recruits). Now is the time to see it on the court in terms of wins and losses.

This is a fair post and one I agree with other than saying Lou underperformed his first year. I felt he was left with nothing. We were a bad team without Curry. Losing 18 games by single digits last year would suggest Lou needs to coach better late in games. Watching those games, the eye test would support the same.
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Hands up for the Dukes.
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2018 SG recruit Dereon Seabron that it looked like the Dukes may have chased hard and who poured in a ton of points for Lake Taylor before going to Massanutten Military just committed to NC State

I believe I saw him jump from a 2 star to a 4 star in a ranking

https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/dereon-seabron
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(08-13-2017 07:25 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  JMU made the final 6 for a PG prospect, Daivien Williamson. Verbal Commits lists him as 5'11" but other sites and more of to date profiles list him as 6'1". JMU offered him relatively later than others but still made his final 6 along with Georgia Southern, Coastal Carolina, Wofford, Radford, and Drexel. Bigger programs showed interest and UNCW was among the programs who offered but didn't make the final 6.

Here are some articles and write ups on Daivien. Sounds like he could be a replacement for Joey McLean going forward although McLean was lightly recruited compared with Williamson.

http://basketballsocietyonline.com/daivi...basketball

"Daivien Williamson, Team Winston, PG, 2018: The super quick point guard was a blur for the North Carolina team and helped his squad enjoy a deep run at the Bob Gibbons Tournament of Champions. Williamson averaged 15.3 points a game and did a fine job of running his balanced squad. He’s a quality low-major target as we move into the July recruiting period. — Justin Young"

Daivien Williamson
High School: Winston Salem Prep
Travel Team: Team Winston

"Daivien is the next star in line for WSPA one of the most decorated programs in the entire state. Past alumni have found tremendous success at all levels of college hoops including this year's NCAA tournament. The Phoenix came up short on their state title hunt but it was of no fault of Williamson, the Junior lead his team in scoring and was named POY in his conference."

"He recently balled out at the NC Preps elite guards camp and was named best passer at the event. Team Winston will play a competitive schedule this travel season and the talented combo guard will be on full display. Williamson can score with the best when he’s on the young star is a tough matchup and defensively he’s usually strapped up on the opponent's top perimeter threat. Some solid programs are tracking him already the likes of Miami, Tulsa, and Unc Wilmington, are a few. Wake Forest is also watching the Tre 4 product closely as current Deac Greg Mcclinton was also a star at WSPA. As he continues to develop his lead guards skills the Junior will garner more and more hype. "

33 games with 16 starts. 9.5 points, 2 rebounds, 51% FG, 80%+ FT, 81 helpers 44 TO's. ETSU 24-10. Solid freshman campaign.
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(09-26-2018 07:19 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  
(09-26-2018 05:40 AM)Dukesfan1971 Wrote:  Agree with all the schedule is weak. The new DNR writer is off to a great start. I had no idea official practice starts so early now. Good article on Jacobs today. It is the no ifs ands or buts year. Go Dukes.

Just a reminder about Jacobs- he was the Richmond Times Dispatch player of the year his Senior season at Trinity. He and Wilson are each capable of taking a big step up this season. According to the coaches the bigs are all looking good and in good shape in the pre-season.

In addition to what the article mentions Jacobs often got chances at 3 pointers. He was a pretty good shooter in his prep career and I think his form looks ok out there but he was not very good at hitting those shots. Not sure if it was related to his wrist injury last season but if he can be more effective from 3 it would really give the offense another dimension.

Checks notes.... didn't happen now he's gone.
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(07-03-2018 10:01 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Not sure how if at all this impacts JMU but ODU has added a few transfers in recent days- most recently a big from Providence. According to the ODU beat writer Jarvis Vaughan is slated for prep school not ODU for 2018. It was reported that Vaughan visited JMU after his verbal to ODU. Remains to be seen if he will go prep and then ODU in 2019, reopen his recruitment or if he is being encouraged to go prep because they don't have room on the roster for him. Bears watching because he's a local Valley kid and a front court player. I wonder if he'll end up at Massanutten Military or leave the Valley for prep.

Verbal Commit to Monmouth.

BTW I am not picking on your posts NJ....just doing quick searches and you are a good frequent poster.
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(06-18-2018 08:28 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  our last open offer for Dima Zdor is off the table - he committed to Weber State over the weekend. I suppose its possible we pick up a transfer, but its looking like this team is pretty well cemented.

Saw action, limited, but action for an ok Weber State team

https://weberstatesports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4437
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(06-27-2018 04:24 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  
(06-27-2018 12:43 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  In the Walfish article today, Rowe is talking about 3 openings for next season. Sounds like 1 scholarship will be left open.

Walfish tweeted last night that the grad transfer who visited JMU recently was Hassan Hussein. I thought he may be due to the Rowe/FIU connection. Hussein committed to Illinois Chicago last night so it's a moot point. Virginia kid- 6'9" but thin. Ironically one of his best performances last year was vs. JMU. Could have helped but not sure how much.

http://www.fiusports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4161

He ended up at Southern U and didn't do much for a 7-25 squad
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...an-hussein
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(05-31-2018 06:09 AM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  
(05-06-2018 09:22 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I know it's taboo to discuss but I always wonder what happens with some of these recruits who have several D1 offers but wind up going prep/post grad or juco. Guess appears to be heading that route this year and there are rumblings that Sebron will as well. Ty Foster was a guy who fits that mold from last year. Is it for academic qualifying reasons or are these young men set on P5 offers and getting bad advice? Just crazy from where I sit that they wouldn't go to a quality mid major league to play immediately if they could.

I believe 5/16 is a big date- National signing day. We may have more clarity in the next week or so and if someone from under the radar emerges as a late signee.

You're right on Dereon Seabron, as he signed for Massanutten Military Academy.

Christian Guess is still unsigned.

Jamari Dean, the SF out of GA that JMU was his only DI offer went the DII route.

Da'Shawn Phillip out of Dunbar HS in Baltimore City is unsigned.

Keyshawn Bryant 3.5 star SF still unsigned with some SEC schools checking in on him along with 15 offers.

Odd Oguama the PF out of Raleigh reclassified to 2019.

Rowe offered a number of 2019 scholarships but haven't found much on if there are any other 2018's on the radar.

Seabron - Signed for NC State
Bryant - 26 starts out of 32 games for U. South Carolina
Da'Shawn Phillip - Went to Prep school factor Mt. Zion in Baltimore and now only has offers from Central Connecticut State and Alabama State
Ody Oguama - Signed to play at Wake Forest
Jamari Dean - DII
Christian Guess - Signed with University of Missouri and transferred 3 months in to the season.

Bryant : https://gamecocksonline.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=5972
Guess: https://www.rockmnation.com/missouri-tig...s-analysis

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(05-01-2019 08:29 PM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  
(09-26-2018 07:19 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  
(09-26-2018 05:40 AM)Dukesfan1971 Wrote:  Agree with all the schedule is weak. The new DNR writer is off to a great start. I had no idea official practice starts so early now. Good article on Jacobs today. It is the no ifs ands or buts year. Go Dukes.

Just a reminder about Jacobs- he was the Richmond Times Dispatch player of the year his Senior season at Trinity. He and Wilson are each capable of taking a big step up this season. According to the coaches the bigs are all looking good and in good shape in the pre-season.

In addition to what the article mentions Jacobs often got chances at 3 pointers. He was a pretty good shooter in his prep career and I think his form looks ok out there but he was not very good at hitting those shots. Not sure if it was related to his wrist injury last season but if he can be more effective from 3 it would really give the offense another dimension.

Checks notes.... didn't happen now he's gone.

You are confusing Jacobs with Greg Jones. Jacobs is still very much in the Jmu program- his parents are alum, family attends all the games and his Dad just posted a photo on Twitter with coach Rowe from the coaches caravan.
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One thing I’ve noticed early on with this staff in terms of recruits- they may recruit a kid at one time but once he goes somewhere else they move on. They don’t seem to chase kids who they recruited once before- to post grad juco or when they transfer. they turn the page. It’s pretty clear to me that have a laser focus around 4 year high school kids. It’s how they choose to build the program from this point forward.
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(05-01-2019 08:59 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  
(05-01-2019 08:29 PM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  
(09-26-2018 07:19 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  
(09-26-2018 05:40 AM)Dukesfan1971 Wrote:  Agree with all the schedule is weak. The new DNR writer is off to a great start. I had no idea official practice starts so early now. Good article on Jacobs today. It is the no ifs ands or buts year. Go Dukes.

Just a reminder about Jacobs- he was the Richmond Times Dispatch player of the year his Senior season at Trinity. He and Wilson are each capable of taking a big step up this season. According to the coaches the bigs are all looking good and in good shape in the pre-season.

In addition to what the article mentions Jacobs often got chances at 3 pointers. He was a pretty good shooter in his prep career and I think his form looks ok out there but he was not very good at hitting those shots. Not sure if it was related to his wrist injury last season but if he can be more effective from 3 it would really give the offense another dimension.

Checks notes.... didn't happen now he's gone.

You are confusing Jacobs with Greg Jones. Jacobs is still very much in the Jmu program- his parents are alum, family attends all the games and his Dad just posted a photo on Twitter with coach Rowe from the coaches caravan.

Checks notes... I can't read.

I'll try this : Hopefully your analysis for his sophomore campaign comes true in his junior season
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