Migrant caravan goes global, attracts refugees from across world trying to enter US
Quote:TAPACHULA, Mexico – Last October, when the first major caravan of mostly Central American migrants rushed Mexico’s southern border and made its way to Tijuana, officials here said it was the beginning of what has become a constant flow of unprecedentedly large migrant groups bound for the U.S.
Now, after six months of what Mexico’s Interior Secretary Olga Cordero calls a “phenomenon,” it appears the message of success in getting across and released quickly in America – has gone global.
Here, at the main shelter in Tapachula, just 25 miles north of Mexico’s Guatemala border, there are migrants we identified from more than 10 countries – Cuba, Haiti, Cameroon, Angola, Togo, India, Bangladesh, Congo and Guinea. They join migrants from Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua.
An electrical engineer from Cameroon named Sahfua Seidu described his arduous journey.
He said his journey started from Cameroon to Nigeria to Colombia. He walked through the jungle on foot in Panama to Costa Rica to Nicaragua and then to Honduras, Guatemala and into Mexico.
“I’m coming to the U.S. because I have a political crisis in my country,” Seidu said. “There is too much killing, assassination in my country.”
Mexican officials said their hope now is to keep migrants in the southern states, particularly in Chiapas. They have been cracking down further by detaining them here, but there are signs that is not going well.
Last week, more than 1,300 migrants escaped this shelter – most of them Cubans. Of those who escaped, about 600 remain on the loose.
RE: Migrant caravan goes global, attracts refugees from across world trying to enter
Quote:Here, at the main shelter in Tapachula, just 25 miles north of Mexico’s Guatemala border, there are migrants we identified from more than 10 countries – Cuba, Haiti, Cameroon, Angola, Togo, India, Bangladesh, Congo and Guinea. They join migrants from Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua.
Tell me again how this is NOT and invasion?
Time to stop the BS and put the army at the border.
RE: Migrant caravan goes global, attracts refugees from across world trying to enter US
(05-01-2019 07:51 AM)Kronke Wrote:
(05-01-2019 07:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: If they are asylum seekers and willing to go through the asylum process, then I do not see the issue.
You’ll see the issue whenever the entire third world shows up on your doorstep.
Many of my customers are "third world", first generation Americans who are busting their collective asses to make a life for their families in this country; and their stories are exactly what this country is built upon. I do not disagree with their need to "go through the process", but I do disagree with how they are being demonized by Donald Trump and his base.
RE: Migrant caravan goes global, attracts refugees from across world trying to enter US
(05-01-2019 07:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: If they are asylum seekers and willing to go through the asylum process, then I do not see the issue.
What if they are not legitimate asylum seekers, and not willing to go through the asylum process, but are simply entering illegally and have been coached to scream, "Asylum," when apprehended? Do you draw a line, and if so where?
(This post was last modified: 05-01-2019 08:04 AM by Owl 69/70/75.)
RE: Migrant caravan goes global, attracts refugees from across world trying to enter US
(05-01-2019 07:57 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(05-01-2019 07:51 AM)Kronke Wrote:
(05-01-2019 07:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: If they are asylum seekers and willing to go through the asylum process, then I do not see the issue.
You’ll see the issue whenever the entire third world shows up on your doorstep.
Many of my customers are "third world", first generation Americans who are busting their collective asses to make a life for their families in this country; and their stories are exactly what this country is built upon. I do not disagree with their need to "go through the process", but I do disagree with how they are being demonized by Donald Trump and his base.
Given that the system is overran, these people will be given a court date and released, never to be seen again. In other words, they will be completely unvetted. How many Angolans and Haitians before Angola and Haiti's problems become our problems?
The type of shite you will get behind to own the drumpf is shocking.
Selling the country down the toilet via complete open borders. If you get here and are from a country that is poorer than the USA, you have a valid claim of "asylum".
I hope it was worth it.
(This post was last modified: 05-01-2019 08:08 AM by Kronke.)
RE: Migrant caravan goes global, attracts refugees from across world trying to enter US
(05-01-2019 08:04 AM)Kronke Wrote:
(05-01-2019 07:57 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(05-01-2019 07:51 AM)Kronke Wrote:
(05-01-2019 07:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: If they are asylum seekers and willing to go through the asylum process, then I do not see the issue.
You’ll see the issue whenever the entire third world shows up on your doorstep.
Many of my customers are "third world", first generation Americans who are busting their collective asses to make a life for their families in this country; and their stories are exactly what this country is built upon. I do not disagree with their need to "go through the process", but I do disagree with how they are being demonized by Donald Trump and his base.
Given that the system is overran, these people will be given a court date and released, never to be seen again. In other words, they will be completely unvetted. How many Angolans and Haitians before Angola and Haiti's problems become our problems?
The type of shite you will go to bat for to own the drumpf is shocking. You are willing to sell the country down the toilet via complete open borders.
I hope it was worth it.
I go to bat for oppressed people legally seeking asylum in this country. I do not care if they come from Angola, Haiti, Bosnia or El Salvador. Our system is only overrun because it is politically expeditious to this administration for it to be overrun.
RE: Migrant caravan goes global, attracts refugees from across world trying to enter US
(05-01-2019 08:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(05-01-2019 08:04 AM)Kronke Wrote:
(05-01-2019 07:57 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:
(05-01-2019 07:51 AM)Kronke Wrote:
(05-01-2019 07:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: If they are asylum seekers and willing to go through the asylum process, then I do not see the issue.
You’ll see the issue whenever the entire third world shows up on your doorstep.
Many of my customers are "third world", first generation Americans who are busting their collective asses to make a life for their families in this country; and their stories are exactly what this country is built upon. I do not disagree with their need to "go through the process", but I do disagree with how they are being demonized by Donald Trump and his base.
Given that the system is overran, these people will be given a court date and released, never to be seen again. In other words, they will be completely unvetted. How many Angolans and Haitians before Angola and Haiti's problems become our problems?
The type of shite you will go to bat for to own the drumpf is shocking. You are willing to sell the country down the toilet via complete open borders.
I hope it was worth it.
I go to bat for oppressed people legally seeking asylum in this country. I do not care if they come from Angola, Haiti, Bosnia or El Salvador. Our system is only overrun because it is politically expeditious to this administration for it to be overrun.
That is about 75% of the population of the planet. They can live in your house.
RE: Migrant caravan goes global, attracts refugees from across world trying to enter US
(05-01-2019 08:03 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(05-01-2019 07:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: If they are asylum seekers and willing to go through the asylum process, then I do not see the issue.
What if they are not legitimate asylum seekers, and not willing to go through the asylum process, but are simply entering illegally and have been coached to scream, "Asylum," when apprehended? Do you draw a line, and if so where?
RE: Migrant caravan goes global, attracts refugees from across world trying to enter US
You will get no honesty or thoughtful responses form the Mensa types on this.
All they have is spoon fed lies and talking points. So what if his view is obviously a major disaster for our own tax paying citizens, particularly the minorities and poor. As long as they are sticking it to the orange man and the republicans, that is all that matters.
RE: Migrant caravan goes global, attracts refugees from across world trying to enter US
(05-01-2019 07:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: If they are asylum seekers and willing to go through the asylum process, then I do not see the issue.
They're not. Most are using the asylum angle to gain entry. It has been documented that they are being told to claim asylum regardless of their situation. Most are just poor folks looking for opportunity. Sadly...We just can't handle all of them currently.
RE: Migrant caravan goes global, attracts refugees from across world trying to enter US
(05-01-2019 11:23 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:
(05-01-2019 07:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: If they are asylum seekers and willing to go through the asylum process, then I do not see the issue.
They're not. Most are using the asylum angle to gain entry. It has been documented that they are being told to claim asylum regardless of their situation. Most are just poor folks looking for opportunity. Sadly...We just can't handle all of them currently.
RE: Migrant caravan goes global, attracts refugees from across world trying to enter US
(05-01-2019 11:23 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:
(05-01-2019 07:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: If they are asylum seekers and willing to go through the asylum process, then I do not see the issue.
They're not. Most are using the asylum angle to gain entry. It has been documented that they are being told to claim asylum regardless of their situation. Most are just poor folks looking for opportunity. Sadly...We just can't handle all of them currently.
they prey upon the weakness of current law....
it's why congress has become worthless for the people....
arguing seMANtics with soy boy is akin to running into a studded wall until death....
(This post was last modified: 05-01-2019 11:31 AM by stinkfist.)