(03-06-2019 10:54 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 10:44 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 10:38 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 10:24 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Imajae Dodd had 26 points, 11 rebounds, and 7 blocks in Greene Central's 90-57 win over Hertford County last night, advancing to the Regional Final. They will play Farmville Central on Saturday at ECU.

https://www.neusenews.com/index/2019/3/5...c7nc1wbx46

Another great game.

He's really stepped his game up and been their leader throughout this playoff run. Farmville Central swept Greene Central this season 3-0 but they were competitive games. If he can lead GCHS to the upset victory, his legend will continue to grow. Dodd called himself the best player in the state about a month ago (he's ranked 17th) and he's been on an absolute tear ever since. It's hard not to like everything about this kid.

Farmville Central is 30-0. Like Gary said, they've beaten Greene Central three times. By 20 the first time, by 8 the second time and then in OT. Maybe GC is figuring out how to beat Farmville. But it will be a tough job to accomplish.

Farmville Central is loaded with D1 talent at multiple positions. It's also a big rivalry game for the area. It might be 2A basketball, but the best players in the state come from Eastern NC. I don't look too much into classifications, I know this area well. The atmosphere and competition that these games produce matches anything else in NC.

(03-05-2019 08:38 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 11:23 PM)70shawk Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 01:10 PM)getmhawks Wrote:  Of course, I said that about Kai and if anyone would have told me what his stats would be, I would have said there is absolutely no way we finish last.

Crazy, right? Kai with his stats, Devontae with his stats, and Gadsden with his 3point %...and last place??

It's mind boggling with the talent on this team and they finished 10th! But, this is a conversation for another thread!

100% Agree.

(03-06-2019 02:16 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 10:54 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 10:44 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 10:38 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 10:24 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Imajae Dodd had 26 points, 11 rebounds, and 7 blocks in Greene Central's 90-57 win over Hertford County last night, advancing to the Regional Final. They will play Farmville Central on Saturday at ECU.

https://www.neusenews.com/index/2019/3/5...c7nc1wbx46

Another great game.

He's really stepped his game up and been their leader throughout this playoff run. Farmville Central swept Greene Central this season 3-0 but they were competitive games. If he can lead GCHS to the upset victory, his legend will continue to grow. Dodd called himself the best player in the state about a month ago (he's ranked 17th) and he's been on an absolute tear ever since. It's hard not to like everything about this kid.

Farmville Central is 30-0. Like Gary said, they've beaten Greene Central three times. By 20 the first time, by 8 the second time and then in OT. Maybe GC is figuring out how to beat Farmville. But it will be a tough job to accomplish.

Farmville Central is loaded with D1 talent at multiple positions. It's also a big rivalry game for the area. It might be 2A basketball, but the best players in the state come from Eastern NC. I don't look too much into classifications, I know this area well. The atmosphere and competition that these games produce matches anything else in NC.

Agree GM! I’m always humored at the minds of those who think less of 1A or 2A athletes or teams than of 3A or 4A. The classification is based on school size and not the ability to compete. The region being loaded with D1 talent speaks to the recreational departments, youth coaches and school coaches in those areas molding athletes. The earth doesn’t just pick and choose where talent resides. “It takes a village” is the old adage that comes to mind. Plenty of small schools out there that given the opportunity could whoop up on some of the more heavily populated schools.

And I don’t mean to insinuate that anyone here has those small opinions of 1-2A schools.


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(03-06-2019 03:16 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 02:16 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 10:54 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 10:44 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 10:38 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Another great game.

He's really stepped his game up and been their leader throughout this playoff run. Farmville Central swept Greene Central this season 3-0 but they were competitive games. If he can lead GCHS to the upset victory, his legend will continue to grow. Dodd called himself the best player in the state about a month ago (he's ranked 17th) and he's been on an absolute tear ever since. It's hard not to like everything about this kid.

Farmville Central is 30-0. Like Gary said, they've beaten Greene Central three times. By 20 the first time, by 8 the second time and then in OT. Maybe GC is figuring out how to beat Farmville. But it will be a tough job to accomplish.

Farmville Central is loaded with D1 talent at multiple positions. It's also a big rivalry game for the area. It might be 2A basketball, but the best players in the state come from Eastern NC. I don't look too much into classifications, I know this area well. The atmosphere and competition that these games produce matches anything else in NC.

Agree GM! I’m always humored at the minds of those who think less of 1A or 2A athletes or teams than of 3A or 4A. The classification is based on school size and not the ability to compete. The region being loaded with D1 talent speaks to the recreational departments, youth coaches and school coaches in those areas molding athletes. The earth doesn’t just pick and choose where talent resides. “It takes a village” is the old adage that comes to mind. Plenty of small schools out there that given the opportunity could whoop up on some of the more heavily populated schools.

And I don’t mean to insinuate that anyone here has those small opinions of 1-2A schools.


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Yep. Imajae is a perfect example of this. Guess who his coach is... Blue Edwards, a former NBA player that also attended Greene Central. (some might remember him from his ECU days in the late 80s) Also, doesn't hurt to play for Jerry Stackhouse's AAU program. Dodd's comments about him being the best player in the state were because he thinks he's always been overlooked being from Snow Hill. He might not be the best player in the state, but he sure is playing like it. Gotta love the chip on his shoulder and determination to prove everyone who has overlooked him wrong.

Interesting thoughts CG in regards to school size not mattering, considering you said this:
"You mean there’s more than one level of HS ball out there?!
Mind boggling. Lol "
When discussing Baldwin for me telling JM that school size didn't really matter....

:)

(03-06-2019 03:16 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Agree GM! I’m always humored at the minds of those who think less of 1A or 2A athletes or teams than of 3A or 4A.

And I don’t mean to insinuate that anyone here has those small opinions of 1-2A schools.

**Cough** mullet **cough**

(03-06-2019 04:04 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 03:16 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Agree GM! I’m always humored at the minds of those who think less of 1A or 2A athletes or teams than of 3A or 4A.

And I don’t mean to insinuate that anyone here has those small opinions of 1-2A schools.

**Cough** mullet **cough**

But, CG agreed with him during that baseball convo......

(03-06-2019 03:55 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Interesting thoughts CG in regards to school size not mattering, considering you said this:
"You mean there’s more than one level of HS ball out there?!
Mind boggling. Lol "
When discussing Baldwin for me telling JM that school size didn't really matter....

:)

I stand by that as well. I didn’t say the school size doesn’t matter. All I said above is that it’s not the end all be all. There are certainly times when it matters. What we’re actually discussing here though is a little bit different though, because of the overwhelming amount of top tier basketball talent in eastern NC, which is predominantly a 1-2A HS size area across the spectrum. Baseball prospects are more evenly spread across the state. There have been a few articles and short films on the area, specifically Kinston and Little Washington. It’s on a different level than baseball. So I stand by both of my arguments. I also grew up in eastern NC and played several sports at a 2A school, one of which earned me a few D1 offers. I only bring that up to say I understand the topic and how the competition varies relative to school size and sport.


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School size matters when you are talking about overall conference competition. The overall talent level available at 3a-4a schools is obviously greater due to the larger pool of talent at a school with 2,000 students vs. a school with 500 students. It's simple math.

That does not mean there aren't great individual talents playing at 1a/2a schools. It does mean that, in general, it's harder to evaluate talent at those smaller schools. Especially big men, since they aren't usually facing players their size on a nightly basis. Coby White was from a small, eastern NC school in the Goldsboro/Wilson area. BUT, playing guard, it was easier to see he could handle the ball, pass the ball, drive the ball and shoot. He was also doing this at 6'5". Guards are easier to evaluate regardless of competition.

As far as Dodd goes, he doesn't just play HS ball, nor do most top talent players in the state. Despite the HS schedule he plays, he can be evaluated at the AAU level as well. When he says he's the best in the state he's probably had a chance to play some of the best in the state. I guess we'll see. As stated, I LOVE that kind of swagger and confidence. It's a missing ingredient at UNCW right now. Hate to say it, but we seem to be loaded with a lot of "nice guys". I want to see some fire next year!

(03-06-2019 03:55 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Interesting thoughts CG in regards to school size not mattering, considering you said this:
"You mean there’s more than one level of HS ball out there?!
Mind boggling. Lol "
When discussing Baldwin for me telling JM that school size didn't really matter....

:)

Disagree with that statement and for several reasons. Baldwin has looked the part so far but he is a kid that played 1A ball and also American Legion. Both of those are potential red flags in baseball. Most of the better player now are on the top travel ball teams in baseball and play top competition. Much easier way to evaluate talent,he is doing ok but I still have some doubt.
Basketball is the same thing but the top players all go to private schools for the most part-as with Colby White. They also play travel ball and it can be super hard to get anything out of that at times. Whoever catches the inbound pass-shoots and zero defense. The kid from Dixon HS that just left UNCW is a perfect example of bad recruiting of a big kid playing at a tiny school against small players.

(03-07-2019 01:25 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 03:55 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Interesting thoughts CG in regards to school size not mattering, considering you said this:
"You mean there’s more than one level of HS ball out there?!
Mind boggling. Lol "
When discussing Baldwin for me telling JM that school size didn't really matter....

:)

Disagree with that statement and for several reasons. Baldwin has looked the part so far but he is a kid that played 1A ball and also American Legion. Both of those are potential red flags in baseball. Most of the better player now are on the top travel ball teams in baseball and play top competition. Much easier way to evaluate talent,he is doing ok but I still have some doubt.
Basketball is the same thing but the top players all go to private schools for the most part-as with Colby White. They also play travel ball and it can be super hard to get anything out of that at times. Whoever catches the inbound pass-shoots and zero defense. The kid from Dixon HS that just left UNCW is a perfect example of bad recruiting of a big kid playing at a tiny school against small players.

Colby White's high school conference in basketball is nothing compared to what Dodd faces in terms of athleticism and environment on any given night. Eastern NC is the one region NC where the public school games are more competitive than the private schools. This being said 82 is correct in his assessment that most of these kids get seen at the AAU level over the summer. I can understand that Dixon HS didn't have much competition... Historically the Eastern part of the state has created the best basketball players and most of them played public school ball. Cedric Maxwell, Phil Ford, Dominique Wilkins, Charles Shackleford, Jerry Stackhouse, Reggie Bullock, Brandon Ingram, Kent Bazemore, Montrezl Harrell, Blue Edwards... and I probably missed a couple of guys. None of these guys play private school ball or even 4A ball. Classifications are irrelevant IMO.

(03-07-2019 02:57 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 01:25 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 03:55 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Interesting thoughts CG in regards to school size not mattering, considering you said this:
"You mean there’s more than one level of HS ball out there?!
Mind boggling. Lol "
When discussing Baldwin for me telling JM that school size didn't really matter....

:)

Disagree with that statement and for several reasons. Baldwin has looked the part so far but he is a kid that played 1A ball and also American Legion. Both of those are potential red flags in baseball. Most of the better player now are on the top travel ball teams in baseball and play top competition. Much easier way to evaluate talent,he is doing ok but I still have some doubt.
Basketball is the same thing but the top players all go to private schools for the most part-as with Colby White. They also play travel ball and it can be super hard to get anything out of that at times. Whoever catches the inbound pass-shoots and zero defense. The kid from Dixon HS that just left UNCW is a perfect example of bad recruiting of a big kid playing at a tiny school against small players.

Colby White's high school conference in basketball is nothing compared to what Dodd faces in terms of athleticism and environment on any given night. Eastern NC is the one region NC where the public school games are more competitive than the private schools. This being said 82 is correct in his assessment that most of these kids get seen at the AAU level over the summer. I can understand that Dixon HS didn't have much competition... Historically the Eastern part of the state has created the best basketball players and most of them played public school ball. Cedric Maxwell, Phil Ford, Dominique Wilkins, Charles Shackleford, Jerry Stackhouse, Reggie Bullock, Brandon Ingram, Kent Bazemore, Montrezl Harrell, Blue Edwards... and I probably missed a couple of guys. None of these guys play private school ball or even 4A ball. Classifications are irrelevant IMO.

Michael Jordan. Lol


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MJ crossed my mind but I’ve never considered Wilmington a true Eastern NC city. Of course technically it is, but to put Wilmington in the realm of gritty cities like Kinston, Little Washington, and Snow Hill doesn’t really fit for the sake of this argument. Area code 252 is basically what I was going by.

Y'all aren't talking about Boggs, but he sounds like a player that can really help out as a skilled bigger type that can be that "newer style" 4 man but he could be a 3 also, who knows. He reputably plays hard from what I've read so he may help on D too-we shall see.

His #'s aren't great as he plays on a great team so you just don't know. He sounds like a guy that can develop into a very good player over time with reps and practice and may be a little raw at first, but an energy guy with bounce and skill. A winning mentality with projectable ability is a good thing. Heck, I'd love to see him/others attacking the hole off the dribble one good time.

(03-07-2019 07:19 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 02:57 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 01:25 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 03:55 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Interesting thoughts CG in regards to school size not mattering, considering you said this:
"You mean there’s more than one level of HS ball out there?!
Mind boggling. Lol "
When discussing Baldwin for me telling JM that school size didn't really matter....

:)

Disagree with that statement and for several reasons. Baldwin has looked the part so far but he is a kid that played 1A ball and also American Legion. Both of those are potential red flags in baseball. Most of the better player now are on the top travel ball teams in baseball and play top competition. Much easier way to evaluate talent,he is doing ok but I still have some doubt.
Basketball is the same thing but the top players all go to private schools for the most part-as with Colby White. They also play travel ball and it can be super hard to get anything out of that at times. Whoever catches the inbound pass-shoots and zero defense. The kid from Dixon HS that just left UNCW is a perfect example of bad recruiting of a big kid playing at a tiny school against small players.

Colby White's high school conference in basketball is nothing compared to what Dodd faces in terms of athleticism and environment on any given night. Eastern NC is the one region NC where the public school games are more competitive than the private schools. This being said 82 is correct in his assessment that most of these kids get seen at the AAU level over the summer. I can understand that Dixon HS didn't have much competition... Historically the Eastern part of the state has created the best basketball players and most of them played public school ball. Cedric Maxwell, Phil Ford, Dominique Wilkins, Charles Shackleford, Jerry Stackhouse, Reggie Bullock, Brandon Ingram, Kent Bazemore, Montrezl Harrell, Blue Edwards... and I probably missed a couple of guys. None of these guys play private school ball or even 4A ball. Classifications are irrelevant IMO.

Michael Jordan. Lol


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WAY more talent coming from the Kinston area than Wilmington overall.

(03-07-2019 08:57 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  MJ crossed my mind but I’ve never considered Wilmington a true Eastern NC city. Of course technically it is, but to put Wilmington in the realm of gritty cities like Kinston, Little Washington, and Snow Hill doesn’t really fit for the sake of this argument. Area code 252 is basically what I was going by.

I knew that's where you were at with it, just wanted to laugh on it for the "technicality" and since he's the GOAT.

(03-08-2019 07:08 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 07:19 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 02:57 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 01:25 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 03:55 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Interesting thoughts CG in regards to school size not mattering, considering you said this:
"You mean there’s more than one level of HS ball out there?!
Mind boggling. Lol "
When discussing Baldwin for me telling JM that school size didn't really matter....

:)

Disagree with that statement and for several reasons. Baldwin has looked the part so far but he is a kid that played 1A ball and also American Legion. Both of those are potential red flags in baseball. Most of the better player now are on the top travel ball teams in baseball and play top competition. Much easier way to evaluate talent,he is doing ok but I still have some doubt.
Basketball is the same thing but the top players all go to private schools for the most part-as with Colby White. They also play travel ball and it can be super hard to get anything out of that at times. Whoever catches the inbound pass-shoots and zero defense. The kid from Dixon HS that just left UNCW is a perfect example of bad recruiting of a big kid playing at a tiny school against small players.

Colby White's high school conference in basketball is nothing compared to what Dodd faces in terms of athleticism and environment on any given night. Eastern NC is the one region NC where the public school games are more competitive than the private schools. This being said 82 is correct in his assessment that most of these kids get seen at the AAU level over the summer. I can understand that Dixon HS didn't have much competition... Historically the Eastern part of the state has created the best basketball players and most of them played public school ball. Cedric Maxwell, Phil Ford, Dominique Wilkins, Charles Shackleford, Jerry Stackhouse, Reggie Bullock, Brandon Ingram, Kent Bazemore, Montrezl Harrell, Blue Edwards... and I probably missed a couple of guys. None of these guys play private school ball or even 4A ball. Classifications are irrelevant IMO.

Michael Jordan. Lol


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WAY more talent coming from the Kinston area than Wilmington overall.

100% agree 82.

Don't forget our favorite son from Columbia, NC.

(03-07-2019 08:57 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  MJ crossed my mind but I’ve never considered Wilmington a true Eastern NC city. Of course technically it is, but to put Wilmington in the realm of gritty cities like Kinston, Little Washington, and Snow Hill doesn’t really fit for the sake of this argument. Area code 252 is basically what I was going by.

Let's not forget back when MJ came from Wilmington, ILM was about the size of many of those cities/towns

(03-08-2019 09:29 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 08:57 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  MJ crossed my mind but I’ve never considered Wilmington a true Eastern NC city. Of course technically it is, but to put Wilmington in the realm of gritty cities like Kinston, Little Washington, and Snow Hill doesn’t really fit for the sake of this argument. Area code 252 is basically what I was going by.

Let's not forget back when MJ came from Wilmington, ILM was about the size of many of those cities/towns

Ummmmmmm. I dunno about that. lol Wilmington has never been Raleigh/Charlotte size, but it's always been larger than towns in the 252. The only "city" in 252 is Greenville. Elizabeth City is also an exception but has never been as large as the Port City of NC.