(02-18-2019 09:43 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:40 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:35 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:28 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-16-2019 09:46 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Ever notice how liberals accuse non-liberals as racist, sexist, homophobic, etc., but are the very same lot that bring up these topics all the time in various ways. ALL THE TIME. It's an obsession for them. If I had a dollar for every time a lib says, "a bunch of old white guys" or some variation I'd be able to retire and move to the Bahamas. Heck, now you have a congresswoman from Minnesota calling out the Jewish nation.

So pointing out that a bunch of old white guys are creating policies and rhetoric that is hostile to minorities and women is racist/sexist/homophobic? Calling someone out for saying racist/sexist stuff is not racist/sexist.

Examples of policies or rhetoric that are racist/sexist?

Start with our president.

What policies has Trump pushed thru that are racist/sexist?

Have you not listened to him over the past 3 years? Start with Googling the limiting of immigration and the Muslim ban. I’m not doing your homework for you.

(02-18-2019 09:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:43 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:40 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:35 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:28 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  So pointing out that a bunch of old white guys are creating policies and rhetoric that is hostile to minorities and women is racist/sexist/homophobic? Calling someone out for saying racist/sexist stuff is not racist/sexist.

Examples of policies or rhetoric that are racist/sexist?

Start with our president.

What policies has Trump pushed thru that are racist/sexist?

Have you not listened to him over the past 3 years? Start with Googling the limiting of immigration and the Muslim ban. I’m not doing your homework for you.

In other words you stated this as fact when it was merely your opinion.

He is sexist yet so far I haven't heard of him getting oral sex from interns in the oval office.
He is racist yet no photos have been brought forward of him in black face or klan garb.
Limiting the immigration and banning immigration from countries engaged in terrorism doesn't seem racist as much as common sense.

(02-18-2019 09:54 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:43 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:40 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:35 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Examples of policies or rhetoric that are racist/sexist?

Start with our president.

What policies has Trump pushed thru that are racist/sexist?

Have you not listened to him over the past 3 years? Start with Googling the limiting of immigration and the Muslim ban. I’m not doing your homework for you.

In other words you stated this as fact when it was merely your opinion.

He is sexist yet so far I haven't heard of him getting oral sex from interns in the oval office.
He is racist yet no photos have been brought forward of him in black face or klan garb.
Limiting the immigration and banning immigration from countries engaged in terrorism doesn't seem racist as much as common sense.

You’re one of those fake conservatives that ignore the “Mexicans are bringing drugs and crimes”, “very fine people on both sides”, “shithole countries”, “grab them in the *****”, “Mexican judge can’t be fair because he’s Mexican”.
I can’t have a conversation with you if you’re going to be intellectually dishonest and completely ignore his words and policies.

(02-18-2019 10:09 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:54 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:43 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:40 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Start with our president.

What policies has Trump pushed thru that are racist/sexist?

Have you not listened to him over the past 3 years? Start with Googling the limiting of immigration and the Muslim ban. I’m not doing your homework for you.

In other words you stated this as fact when it was merely your opinion.

He is sexist yet so far I haven't heard of him getting oral sex from interns in the oval office.
He is racist yet no photos have been brought forward of him in black face or klan garb.
Limiting the immigration and banning immigration from countries engaged in terrorism doesn't seem racist as much as common sense.

You’re one of those fake conservatives that ignore the “Mexicans are bringing drugs and crimes”, “very fine people on both sides”, “shithole countries”, “grab them in the *****”, “Mexican judge can’t be fair because he’s Mexican”.
I can’t have a conversation with you if you’re going to be intellectually dishonest and completely ignore his words and policies.

Fake conservative? LOL Again, what policies? I understand he has said some things in the past that were inappropriate as has most of the population but as I showed democrats do the same.

(02-15-2019 11:33 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'd love to see Biden and Beto team up for a 2020 run...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...38929.html

so would thine....

democrats: the gift that continues to provide

(02-17-2019 11:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-16-2019 07:05 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(02-15-2019 11:33 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'd love to see Biden and Beto team up for a 2020 run...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...38929.html

This will be, and has been, made fun of...but I think this ticket would have a shot

focus on TX, FL, NC and PA.

the youth of Beto and experience of Biden match up well against Trump IMHO.

let Obama and Michelle help...stay far away from Bill and Hillary.

look in the mirror before ewe wipe.....the dirty pebbles will require nh3 in that 'porcelain adonis'

(02-18-2019 09:35 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:14 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(02-16-2019 09:46 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(02-16-2019 07:37 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-15-2019 11:06 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The idea of Democrats playing “identity” politics is kind of laughable. The Republican party is, after all, a party dominated by straight, white males... only straight, white males. There are no women in leadership positions. There are no minorities in leadership... heck, there are only a handful of Republican women and minorities in Washington, period. If ever there were a party playing identity politics, its the party that’s pushed everyone but SWM’s else out.

The irony is overfolwing with the above post...it's comical actually

Ever notice how liberals accuse non-liberals as racist, sexist, homophobic, etc., but are the very same lot that bring up these topics all the time in various ways. ALL THE TIME. It's an obsession for them. If I had a dollar for every time a lib says, "a bunch of old white guys" or some variation I'd be able to retire and move to the Bahamas. Heck, now you have a congresswoman from Minnesota calling out the Jewish nation.

92% of Republicans in Congress are male
94% of Republicans in Congress are white
91% of Republicans are Christians
100% of the Republicans in Congress are straight

Democratic numbers are a bit more reflective of the country.

62% are male... national number is 49%

62% are white... national number is 72%

73% of Democrats in Congress identify as Christians... national number is 69%


96% identified as “straight”... national number is 95%


One party is focused on appealing to an increasingly smaller piece of the demographic, and its not Democrats.

100% of Republican congressmen are not straight, that I can tell you.

Okay, 100% are either straight or pretend they're straight.

(02-15-2019 06:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(02-15-2019 06:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-15-2019 10:41 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-15-2019 10:31 AM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  Most assumed this to be the case, but looks like he is probably in.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-a...ource-says

Given that he will be 78, as with RBG, how can we be sure he is alive?

won't Trump be like 75 in 2020?

and 80 pounds overweight

and the incumbent. #yourpotustoo

(02-18-2019 10:49 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:35 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:14 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(02-16-2019 09:46 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(02-16-2019 07:37 PM)450bench Wrote:  The irony is overfolwing with the above post...it's comical actually

Ever notice how liberals accuse non-liberals as racist, sexist, homophobic, etc., but are the very same lot that bring up these topics all the time in various ways. ALL THE TIME. It's an obsession for them. If I had a dollar for every time a lib says, "a bunch of old white guys" or some variation I'd be able to retire and move to the Bahamas. Heck, now you have a congresswoman from Minnesota calling out the Jewish nation.

92% of Republicans in Congress are male
94% of Republicans in Congress are white
91% of Republicans are Christians
100% of the Republicans in Congress are straight

Democratic numbers are a bit more reflective of the country.

62% are male... national number is 49%

62% are white... national number is 72%

73% of Democrats in Congress identify as Christians... national number is 69%


96% identified as “straight”... national number is 95%


One party is focused on appealing to an increasingly smaller piece of the demographic, and its not Democrats.

100% of Republican congressmen are not straight, that I can tell you.

Okay, 100% are either straight or pretend they're straight.

#widestance

(02-18-2019 09:40 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:35 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:28 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-16-2019 09:46 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(02-16-2019 07:37 PM)450bench Wrote:  The irony is overfolwing with the above post...it's comical actually

Ever notice how liberals accuse non-liberals as racist, sexist, homophobic, etc., but are the very same lot that bring up these topics all the time in various ways. ALL THE TIME. It's an obsession for them. If I had a dollar for every time a lib says, "a bunch of old white guys" or some variation I'd be able to retire and move to the Bahamas. Heck, now you have a congresswoman from Minnesota calling out the Jewish nation.

So pointing out that a bunch of old white guys are creating policies and rhetoric that is hostile to minorities and women is racist/sexist/homophobic? Calling someone out for saying racist/sexist stuff is not racist/sexist.

Examples of policies or rhetoric that are racist/sexist?

Start with our president.

That was specific. Well done.

(02-18-2019 09:54 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:43 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:40 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:35 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Examples of policies or rhetoric that are racist/sexist?

Start with our president.

What policies has Trump pushed thru that are racist/sexist?

Have you not listened to him over the past 3 years? Start with Googling the limiting of immigration and the Muslim ban. I’m not doing your homework for you.

In other words you stated this as fact when it was merely your opinion.

He is sexist yet so far I haven't heard of him getting oral sex from interns in the oval office.
He is racist yet no photos have been brought forward of him in black face or klan garb.
Limiting the immigration and banning immigration from countries engaged in terrorism doesn't seem racist as much as common sense.

Not to mention begun by the previous administration...

(02-18-2019 10:09 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:54 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:43 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:40 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Start with our president.

What policies has Trump pushed thru that are racist/sexist?

Have you not listened to him over the past 3 years? Start with Googling the limiting of immigration and the Muslim ban. I’m not doing your homework for you.

In other words you stated this as fact when it was merely your opinion.

He is sexist yet so far I haven't heard of him getting oral sex from interns in the oval office.
He is racist yet no photos have been brought forward of him in black face or klan garb.
Limiting the immigration and banning immigration from countries engaged in terrorism doesn't seem racist as much as common sense.

You’re one of those fake conservatives that ignore the “Mexicans are bringing drugs and crimes”, “very fine people on both sides”, “shithole countries”, “grab them in the *****”, “Mexican judge can’t be fair because he’s Mexican”.
I can’t have a conversation with you if you’re going to be intellectually dishonest and completely ignore his words and policies.

Speaking of intellectually dishonest, you've been asked to state a specific Trump policy that is sexist or racist several times now and you either can't or won't. We all know it's the former so why don't you either answer or stfu, sit down and stop making yourself look stupid.

(02-18-2019 10:09 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:54 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:43 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:40 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Start with our president.

What policies has Trump pushed thru that are racist/sexist?

Have you not listened to him over the past 3 years? Start with Googling the limiting of immigration and the Muslim ban. I’m not doing your homework for you.

In other words you stated this as fact when it was merely your opinion.

He is sexist yet so far I haven't heard of him getting oral sex from interns in the oval office.
He is racist yet no photos have been brought forward of him in black face or klan garb.
Limiting the immigration and banning immigration from countries engaged in terrorism doesn't seem racist as much as common sense.

You’re one of those fake conservatives that ignore the “Mexicans are bringing drugs and crimes”, “very fine people on both sides”, “shithole countries”, “grab them in the *****”, “Mexican judge can’t be fair because he’s Mexican”.
I can’t have a conversation with you if you’re going to be intellectually dishonest and completely ignore his words and policies.

Mexican isn't a race, its a nationality

There were people on both sides of the Charlottesville protest who weren't members of either a white supremacist or ANTIFA.

It's estimated that over 90% of the heroin used in the US comes into the country via Mexico.

Again, nationality doesn't equal race. And Haiti is indeed a shithole.

Seems to me the only person being intellectually dishonest here is you,

So anyway......about Joe Biden.......

(02-18-2019 11:40 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 10:09 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:54 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:43 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  What policies has Trump pushed thru that are racist/sexist?

Have you not listened to him over the past 3 years? Start with Googling the limiting of immigration and the Muslim ban. I’m not doing your homework for you.

In other words you stated this as fact when it was merely your opinion.

He is sexist yet so far I haven't heard of him getting oral sex from interns in the oval office.
He is racist yet no photos have been brought forward of him in black face or klan garb.
Limiting the immigration and banning immigration from countries engaged in terrorism doesn't seem racist as much as common sense.

You’re one of those fake conservatives that ignore the “Mexicans are bringing drugs and crimes”, “very fine people on both sides”, “shithole countries”, “grab them in the *****”, “Mexican judge can’t be fair because he’s Mexican”.
I can’t have a conversation with you if you’re going to be intellectually dishonest and completely ignore his words and policies.

Speaking of intellectually dishonest, you've been asked to state a specific Trump policy that is sexist or racist several times now and you either can't or won't. We all know it's the former so why don't you either answer or stfu, sit down and stop making yourself look stupid.

I think he tried and just demonstrated he is incapable of thinking for himself and repeated quotes instead of policies. But as for the quotes:

Illegal Mexican immigrants are bringing drugs and crime. That's simply a fact. He didn't say "all."

Fine people on both sides referred to how people felt about Confederate monuments. About 2/3 of Americans think Conferederate monuments are mostly about pride, not racism. About 1/3 of Americans are incapable of thinking for themselves.

Some countries are "shitholes." Bangladesh? Haiti? Somalia? Venezuela has joined the group. That's just common sense.

As for grabbing, that's crude, rude and simply using his wealth and power to get what he wants. And the theme of that interview was that they would be fine with it because he was rich and famous, not that he was forcing himself on them.

As for the judge, that comment was questionable. But it was in the middle of the liberal attacks on him.

And as said, Mexican is a nationality, not a "race."

(02-18-2019 09:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:43 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  What policies has Trump pushed thru that are racist/sexist?

Have you not listened to him over the past 3 years? Start with Googling the limiting of immigration and the Muslim ban. I’m not doing your homework for you.

What "Muslim ban"?

By "Muslim ban" are you referring to the temporary halt on immigration from seven countries which the prior Obama administration had identified as places from which it was impossible to conduct proper vetting of emigrants? And do you mean the action which did not apply to the six largest Muslim countries in the world, and not to 9 of the 10 largest? And which included at least two countries, one officially atheist and the other predominantly Roman Catholic? And the action that was upheld by the Supreme Court on June 26, 2018, as fitting "squarely" within the president's authority?

Is that the "Muslim ban" to which you refer? If so, then why is it not a ban but a temporary exclusion, and why does to not apply to most of the world's Muslims?

And what is wrong with limiting illegal immigration? I'm for more legal immigration, on a merit basis, and less or no illegal immigration. Does that make me a racist?

(02-18-2019 02:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 11:40 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 10:09 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:54 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Have you not listened to him over the past 3 years? Start with Googling the limiting of immigration and the Muslim ban. I’m not doing your homework for you.

In other words you stated this as fact when it was merely your opinion.

He is sexist yet so far I haven't heard of him getting oral sex from interns in the oval office.
He is racist yet no photos have been brought forward of him in black face or klan garb.
Limiting the immigration and banning immigration from countries engaged in terrorism doesn't seem racist as much as common sense.

You’re one of those fake conservatives that ignore the “Mexicans are bringing drugs and crimes”, “very fine people on both sides”, “shithole countries”, “grab them in the *****”, “Mexican judge can’t be fair because he’s Mexican”.
I can’t have a conversation with you if you’re going to be intellectually dishonest and completely ignore his words and policies.

Speaking of intellectually dishonest, you've been asked to state a specific Trump policy that is sexist or racist several times now and you either can't or won't. We all know it's the former so why don't you either answer or stfu, sit down and stop making yourself look stupid.

I think he tried and just demonstrated he is incapable of thinking for himself and repeated quotes instead of policies. But as for the quotes:

Illegal Mexican immigrants are bringing drugs and crime. That's simply a fact. He didn't say "all."

Fine people on both sides referred to how people felt about Confederate monuments. About 2/3 of Americans think Conferederate monuments are mostly about pride, not racism. About 1/3 of Americans are incapable of thinking for themselves.

Some countries are "shitholes." Bangladesh? Haiti? Somalia? Venezuela has joined the group. That's just common sense.

As for grabbing, that's crude, rude and simply using his wealth and power to get what he wants. And the theme of that interview was that they would be fine with it because he was rich and famous, not that he was forcing himself on them.

As for the judge, that comment was questionable. But it was in the middle of the liberal attacks on him.

And as said, Mexican is a nationality, not a "race."

The policies are based on the sugarcoated racism that spews from his mouth. There are plenty of YouTube videos and threads if you want to refresh yourself. You (and your friends) are apologists for the rhetoric (and subsequently the policies that are based off the rhetoric.

(02-15-2019 11:53 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I would never have thought that I would want Joe Biden to win any election. But of those in the field so far, he would appear to be the least dangerous.

I agree. I'll take him over anyone else (on the Democratic side) as of now.

(02-18-2019 04:00 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 09:43 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  What policies has Trump pushed thru that are racist/sexist?

Have you not listened to him over the past 3 years? Start with Googling the limiting of immigration and the Muslim ban. I’m not doing your homework for you.

What "Muslim ban"?

By "Muslim ban" are you referring to the temporary halt on immigration from seven countries which the prior Obama administration had identified as places from which it was impossible to conduct proper vetting of emigrants? And do you mean the action which did not apply to the six largest Muslim countries in the world, and not to 9 of the 10 largest? And which included at least two countries, one officially atheist and the other predominantly Roman Catholic? And the action that was upheld by the Supreme Court on June 26, 2018, as fitting "squarely" within the president's authority?

Is that the "Muslim ban" to which you refer? If so, then why is it not a ban but a temporary exclusion, and why does to not apply to most of the world's Muslims?

And what is wrong with limiting illegal immigration? I'm for more legal immigration, on a merit basis, and less or no illegal immigration. Does that make me a racist?

But CNN and people on Facebook said it's a Muslim ban.