(01-14-2019 05:24 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 05:18 PM)7 Wrote:  He didn’t say one has been found. Just that it could be announced today’s

Hell, anybody could say that lol

You’re not wrong lol

I will say to Max Power’s point....


Doeren came as a defensive coordinator from Wisconsin and brought the most wide ass open opposite of a pro style offense you could imagine, so to assume Hammock or anyone would bring a pro style offense might be unfair.

I think any coach that comes in will take a look at what has been successful at NIU and other G5 schools in regards to offense. All of the successful G5 schools year in and out have spread offenses. Like 7 said regarding Doeren. Whoever comes in I doubt would change tons since it has been mostly successful here, just not so much the last two seasons on offense.

(01-14-2019 02:50 PM)klake87 Wrote:  You need the best coach available with Illinois/Wisconsin/Indiana ties. We can not recruit nationally, we need to recruit regionally. I want a HC that has recruited Illinois and has the connections with the head coaches in the area. Recruiting Florida and Texas is fine but can not be our bread and butter.

Why does the head coach need to have midwest ties? Temple just hired a coach that has no east coast ties.

We can get some assistant coaches who have the midwest ties.

Hire the best candidate, regardless of their ties to NIU or where they are from. NIU is inherently going to get Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana kids just based on our location.

(01-14-2019 06:59 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 02:50 PM)klake87 Wrote:  You need the best coach available with Illinois/Wisconsin/Indiana ties. We can not recruit nationally, we need to recruit regionally. I want a HC that has recruited Illinois and has the connections with the head coaches in the area. Recruiting Florida and Texas is fine but can not be our bread and butter.

Why does the head coach need to have midwest ties? Temple just hired a coach that has no east coast ties.

We can get some assistant coaches who have the midwest ties.

Hire the best candidate, regardless of their ties to NIU or where they are from. NIU is inherently going to get Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana kids just based on our location.

It’s fairly obvious why you want them to have Midwest ties lol

(01-14-2019 05:05 PM)chihuskie Wrote:  I add Ron Zook to the mix.

Seriously.

Special Teams coach at Green Bay. I am not sure with their coaching change, if he has a job. But, boy would even just leaking a rumor that we are talking to him stir up conversation. Create a buzz. Come on.

Ron Zook took Illinois to Pasadena and bowls 3 of his last 5 years. Also set the table for Florida’s national titles. Underrated, I’m sure many Illini would’ve settled for up-and-down Zook knowing how this decade would turn out.

(01-14-2019 05:13 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 05:06 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 05:05 PM)chihuskie Wrote:  I add Ron Zook to the mix.

Seriously.

Special Teams coach at Green Bay. I am not sure with their coaching change, if he has a job. But, boy would even just leaking a rumor that we are talking to him stir up conversation. Create a buzz. Come on.

I would literally rather hire U.

Not to mention just from a personality/media relations standpoint, he is even worse than Carey.

Zook is one of the most entertaining CFB personalities ever. He even went for 2 up 20-13 on IU because he transposed the 14-13 score.

(01-14-2019 04:59 PM)JKHuskie45 Wrote:  Guy from Northern Star James Krause , reporting a coach has been found announcement coming soon.

Didn’t Uremovich interview today? Could mean they hired him on the spot.

(01-14-2019 07:04 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 06:59 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 02:50 PM)klake87 Wrote:  You need the best coach available with Illinois/Wisconsin/Indiana ties. We can not recruit nationally, we need to recruit regionally. I want a HC that has recruited Illinois and has the connections with the head coaches in the area. Recruiting Florida and Texas is fine but can not be our bread and butter.

Why does the head coach need to have midwest ties? Temple just hired a coach that has no east coast ties.

We can get some assistant coaches who have the midwest ties.

Hire the best candidate, regardless of their ties to NIU or where they are from. NIU is inherently going to get Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana kids just based on our location.

It’s fairly obvious why you want them to have Midwest ties lol

That's what you have assistant coaches for.

Was it not obvious to Temple why they should hire a coach with east coast ties?

(01-14-2019 07:19 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 04:59 PM)JKHuskie45 Wrote:  Guy from Northern Star James Krause , reporting a coach has been found announcement coming soon.

Didn’t Uremovich interview today? Could mean they hired him on the spot.

I sure hope that was just a formality. After all, Carey told The Temple press he is taking the best from NIU and the best from Temple....he’s still here

(01-14-2019 07:40 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 07:04 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 06:59 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 02:50 PM)klake87 Wrote:  You need the best coach available with Illinois/Wisconsin/Indiana ties. We can not recruit nationally, we need to recruit regionally. I want a HC that has recruited Illinois and has the connections with the head coaches in the area. Recruiting Florida and Texas is fine but can not be our bread and butter.

Why does the head coach need to have midwest ties? Temple just hired a coach that has no east coast ties.

We can get some assistant coaches who have the midwest ties.

Hire the best candidate, regardless of their ties to NIU or where they are from. NIU is inherently going to get Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana kids just based on our location.

It’s fairly obvious why you want them to have Midwest ties lol

That's what you have assistant coaches for.

Was it not obvious to Temple why they should hire a coach with east coast ties?

To be fair, a lot of our fans are unhappy about Carey because of this. Collins hadn't worked in the Northeast for nearly 20 years when we hired him.

(01-14-2019 07:59 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 07:40 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 07:04 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 06:59 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 02:50 PM)klake87 Wrote:  You need the best coach available with Illinois/Wisconsin/Indiana ties. We can not recruit nationally, we need to recruit regionally. I want a HC that has recruited Illinois and has the connections with the head coaches in the area. Recruiting Florida and Texas is fine but can not be our bread and butter.

Why does the head coach need to have midwest ties? Temple just hired a coach that has no east coast ties.

We can get some assistant coaches who have the midwest ties.

Hire the best candidate, regardless of their ties to NIU or where they are from. NIU is inherently going to get Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana kids just based on our location.

It’s fairly obvious why you want them to have Midwest ties lol

That's what you have assistant coaches for.

Was it not obvious to Temple why they should hire a coach with east coast ties?

To be fair, a lot of our fans are unhappy about Carey because of this. Collins hadn't worked in the Northeast for nearly 20 years when we hired him.

Honestly, if you all feel you got a good coach that's all that matters. There are 8+ assistant coaches on most staffs. All those assistants are gonna do far more recruiting than any one head coach can.

Dave Doeren who left NIU to go to NC State had no ties to the east coast or south at all. All of his experience was out west or in the mdwest.

And RichRod went to Michigan and was just a horrid fit.

Urban Meyer--pretty much a career midwest guy who goes to Utah and does well then goes to Florida and does well.

(01-14-2019 09:25 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Urban Meyer--pretty much a career midwest guy who goes to Utah and does well then goes to Florida and does well.

Did you not think I would fact check this? He spent 6 years at Colorado state.

And urban Meyer is one of the greatest coaches in the history of the sport. That’s not a great comparison.

(01-14-2019 09:42 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 09:25 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Urban Meyer--pretty much a career midwest guy who goes to Utah and does well then goes to Florida and does well.

Did you not think I would fact check this? He spent 6 years at Colorado state.

And urban Meyer is one of the greatest coaches in the history of the sport. That’s not a great comparison.

Hence why I said "pretty much", I didn't say he spent his entire career in the midwest.

But yes, I'm sure his time at Colorado State as a position coach really set him up with great recruiting ties to Utah and Florida lol.

I think it depends. A place like Florida can recruit anywhere in the country no matter the coach. NC State is probably the 4th coolest school on Tobacco Road but to most people outside Raleigh Durham it gets respect as a middle of the road P5. NIU's appeal though it pretty limited to IL and neighboring states and so in order to reach its full potential it needs to maximize that to the fullest. You could have Vince Lombardi but if the regional coaches don't send him the Jimmys and Joes he ain't going very far. It's one factor but it's significant such that I would take Joe Lombardi over Vince if the former had been the lead recruiter for Wisconsin.

Temple is interesting. Yeah the AAC is clearly better than the MAC but nobody's confusing it with the P5 and Chicago kids don't know much about Temple. I bet most Chicagoans don't know it's in Philadelphia not to mention that Temple is in the same conference as UCF. Maybe Carey will get them there, who knows.

(01-14-2019 10:04 PM)Max Power Wrote:  I think it depends. A place like Florida can recruit anywhere in the country no matter the coach. NC State is probably the 4th coolest school on Tobacco Road but to most people outside Raleigh Durham it gets respect as a middle of the road P5. NIU's appeal though it pretty limited to IL and neighboring states and so in order to reach its full potential it needs to maximize that to the fullest. You could have Vince Lombardi but if the regional coaches don't send him the Jimmys and Joes he ain't going very far. It's one factor but it's significant such that I would take Joe Lombardi over Vince if the former had been the lead recruiter for Wisconsin.

Temple is interesting. Yeah the AAC is clearly better than the MAC but nobody's confusing it with the P5 and Chicago kids don't know much about Temple. I bet most Chicagoans don't know it's in Philadelphia not to mention that Temple is in the same conference as UCF. Maybe Carey will get them there, who knows.

They'll learn quickly that we have the 2nd most NFL players from the G5 behind UCF, almost the same number as Illinois (and we should pass them next year), and a handful more than Northwestern.

(01-14-2019 10:20 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 10:04 PM)Max Power Wrote:  I think it depends. A place like Florida can recruit anywhere in the country no matter the coach. NC State is probably the 4th coolest school on Tobacco Road but to most people outside Raleigh Durham it gets respect as a middle of the road P5. NIU's appeal though it pretty limited to IL and neighboring states and so in order to reach its full potential it needs to maximize that to the fullest. You could have Vince Lombardi but if the regional coaches don't send him the Jimmys and Joes he ain't going very far. It's one factor but it's significant such that I would take Joe Lombardi over Vince if the former had been the lead recruiter for Wisconsin.

Temple is interesting. Yeah the AAC is clearly better than the MAC but nobody's confusing it with the P5 and Chicago kids don't know much about Temple. I bet most Chicagoans don't know it's in Philadelphia not to mention that Temple is in the same conference as UCF. Maybe Carey will get them there, who knows.

They'll learn quickly that we have the 2nd most NFL players from the G5 behind UCF, almost the same number as Illinois (and we should pass them next year), and a handful more than Northwestern.

lol, oh god. This is fantastic stuff. Good luck to Temple.

(01-14-2019 07:04 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 06:59 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 02:50 PM)klake87 Wrote:  You need the best coach available with Illinois/Wisconsin/Indiana ties. We can not recruit nationally, we need to recruit regionally. I want a HC that has recruited Illinois and has the connections with the head coaches in the area. Recruiting Florida and Texas is fine but can not be our bread and butter.

Why does the head coach need to have midwest ties? Temple just hired a coach that has no east coast ties.

We can get some assistant coaches who have the midwest ties.

Hire the best candidate, regardless of their ties to NIU or where they are from. NIU is inherently going to get Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana kids just based on our location.

It’s fairly obvious why you want them to have Midwest ties lol

Dragging 15 guys from the east, west or south every year will not happen at a MAC school. Our base is Chicago, Illiniois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Indiana. The head coach needs to have relationships with the Mt. Carmel's of the world. We are not going to consistently "Poach" talent from Ohio away from other MAC schools.