(12-19-2018 11:54 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:   overall better conference than the MWC doesn't reflect in recruiting

https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat...l/Commits/

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Footba...erence=AAC

I'm not a recruitnik, but the bolded statement is kind of hard to support.

For 2019,247 currently has Boise ahead of any AAC teams (congrats!) but then the #2 mwc team would be #10 in the AAC. In fact, top ten 2019 recruiting classes among all the non-contract-bowl conferences, would be six AAC, two CUSA, one mwc, and one SunBelt. Put another way, those are the only G4 teams that break into the top half of the AAC.
For 2019, Rivals has AAC teams at #1-#3 and #6 before Boise at #7 (again, two CUSA tied #4). The second best mwc team would be #11 in the AAC. Again, top ten non-contract-bowl conferences, six AAC.

I looked at Bill Connelly's 2-year and 5-year recruiting rankings, which factor into his preseason S&P+ https://csnbbs.com/thread-853848.html Five year recruiting rankings, AAC had six of the top ten non-contract bowl conference teams and eight of the top twelve.

In the "P6 off the field - Recruiting" thread I linked back to another thread with a depiction that Mad MacGyver (a Boise State fan) had done for 2014-2017 recruiting comparing AAC and mwc. https://csnbbs.com/thread-823881-post-14...id14516638 Same thing - AAC, AAC, maybe mwc at the top but AAC overall, AAC.

I recognize the trolling, but it is worrisome that Boise St could pummel the weak MWC and emerge unscathed while AAC beats each other up. The remarkable and unprecedented UCF run will end at some point.

Memphis signed a 4 star CB transfer from Auburn, John Broussard, Jr. Does that not count?

Plus, this all hinges on which recruiting service you prefer. On Rivals, Memphis has the #47 class, above all other G5, including Boise and UCF.

(12-20-2018 08:56 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 11:54 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:   overall better conference than the MWC doesn't reflect in recruiting

https://247sports.com/college/boise-stat...l/Commits/

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Footba...erence=AAC

I'm not a recruitnik, but the bolded statement is kind of hard to support.

For 2019,247 currently has Boise ahead of any AAC teams (congrats!) but then the #2 mwc team would be #10 in the AAC. In fact, top ten 2019 recruiting classes among all the non-contract-bowl conferences, would be six AAC, two CUSA, one mwc, and one SunBelt. Put another way, those are the only G4 teams that break into the top half of the AAC.
For 2019, Rivals has AAC teams at #1-#3 and #6 before Boise at #7 (again, two CUSA tied #4). The second best mwc team would be #11 in the AAC. Again, top ten non-contract-bowl conferences, six AAC.

I looked at Bill Connelly's 2-year and 5-year recruiting rankings, which factor into his preseason S&P+ https://csnbbs.com/thread-853848.html Five year recruiting rankings, AAC had six of the top ten non-contract bowl conference teams and eight of the top twelve.

In the "P6 off the field - Recruiting" thread I linked back to another thread with a depiction that Mad MacGyver (a Boise State fan) had done for 2014-2017 recruiting comparing AAC and mwc. https://csnbbs.com/thread-823881-post-14...id14516638 Same thing - AAC, AAC, maybe mwc at the top but AAC overall, AAC.

Yup this is what the so called G5 top 10 would look like on the service he is referring to:
1. Boise
2. UCF
3. Memphis
4. SMU
5. USF
6. North Texas
7. Louisiana
8. Southern Miss
9. ECU
10. Houston

The next time you see a MW team?
25. Nevada

Great dumpster fire conference you have other there!

Seems like they always drop at least one in MWC play. AAC west needs to get back up to par so the champ game pits 2 ranked teams as in the past. UM and UH need to get back to form with OOC wins from Navy, Tulane, and SMU helping sos. Not sure what to make of Tulsa.

The entire "star system" is ridiculous to begin with.

UCF signed a kid named Raymond Cutts and this is his offer list: Auburn, Baylor, Clemson, Iowa State, Kentucky, Louisville, Minnesota, North Carolina, NC State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, etc.

He's an insane athlete and yet he's just a "3 star". With his talent and that offer list there's no reason he shouldn't be a "4 star" aside from the fact that he's been a solid UCF commitment for a long time now and Rivals doesn't reward AAC programs for landing kids like this.

If you're looking purely at other offers, I'd put UCF's class up against anyone's including a ton of "P5" classes.

(12-20-2018 09:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Memphis signed a 4 star CB transfer from Auburn, John Broussard, Jr. Does that not count?

Plus, this all hinges on which recruiting service you prefer. On Rivals, Memphis has the #47 class, above all other G5, including Boise and UCF.

Our four-star recruit doesn't get to play this year I don't think. Maybe that's why he's not in this class. Still, even not counting him, Memphis has a hell of a recruiting class.

(12-20-2018 09:54 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 09:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Memphis signed a 4 star CB transfer from Auburn, John Broussard, Jr. Does that not count?

Plus, this all hinges on which recruiting service you prefer. On Rivals, Memphis has the #47 class, above all other G5, including Boise and UCF.

Our four-star recruit doesn't get to play this year I don't think. Maybe that's why he's not in this class. Still, even not counting him, Memphis has a hell of a recruiting class.

He's immediately eligible per Norvell. Played as a true freshman at Auburn.

(12-20-2018 10:01 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 09:54 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 09:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Memphis signed a 4 star CB transfer from Auburn, John Broussard, Jr. Does that not count?

Plus, this all hinges on which recruiting service you prefer. On Rivals, Memphis has the #47 class, above all other G5, including Boise and UCF.

Our four-star recruit doesn't get to play this year I don't think. Maybe that's why he's not in this class. Still, even not counting him, Memphis has a hell of a recruiting class.

He's immediately eligible per Norvell. Played as a true freshman at Auburn.

Great news! Anyway, was 4* Brady White included in last year's recruiting ranking? I seems he wasn't but I'm not sure. Maybe it's just a transfer thing

Damn... is OP still alive?

bosie has the 65th ranked class with only 2 4* and a whole slew of 2* nobodies. OP sending a lot of fake news. Also cinci and houston each have a 4*.

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2019/...s/football

(12-20-2018 10:24 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  bosie has the 65th ranked class with only 2 4* and a whole slew of 2* nobodies. OP sending a lot of fake news. Also cinci and houston each have a 4*.

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2019/...s/football

Rivals really does suck, 247 composite scores are really the only way to go. The troll in this thread worked out congrats OP you brought the crazy’s out of the woodwork. West coast 4 star guys are not as good as east coast 3 stars lol keep em coming guys.

All you really need to know about recruiting ratings is that the current starting QB for the San Francisco 49ers signed with Southern Miss our of high school as the reigning Gatorade Player of the Year in Alabama...

...as a two star recruit.

(12-20-2018 01:33 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 10:24 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  bosie has the 65th ranked class with only 2 4* and a whole slew of 2* nobodies. OP sending a lot of fake news. Also cinci and houston each have a 4*.

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2019/...s/football

Rivals really does suck, 247 composite scores are really the only way to go. The troll in this thread worked out congrats OP you brought the crazy’s out of the woodwork. West coast 4 star guys are not as good as east coast 3 stars lol keep em coming guys.

"247 has us ranked higher so obviously its the better ranking system" lmao. Try not to lose to teams in your conference that make half or less money than you then we can talk.

(12-20-2018 09:52 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  The entire "star system" is ridiculous to begin with.

Last year Dorian Hardy was a 4 star commit to Penn State.
FOUR-STAR DE DORIAN HARDY COMMITS TO PENN STATE

He had over 25 offers including Alabama, Baylor, Boston College, Clemson, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, LSU, Miami (Fla.), Michigan, Michigan State, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech and Wisconsin.

His offer was rescinded after some legal trouble. He came to ECU as a 3 star. His 247 ranking dropped from 148 to 663.

Obviously his star rating was based on who was interested and not about his talent level.

Girls, girls, girls ... The 247 composite rankings have Boise at #57, UCF at #58, and Memphis at #59. We're all pretty.

(12-20-2018 02:46 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Girls, girls, girls ... The 247 composite rankings have Boise at #57, UCF at #58, and Memphis at #59. We're all pretty.

Plus Memphis has a transfer from Auburn that's not included at all rankings so we might be a little prettier then the other two. Just an opinion.

I feel bad for those 4* players going to Boise. Never will sniff an NY6 Bowl

(12-20-2018 01:33 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 10:24 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  bosie has the 65th ranked class with only 2 4* and a whole slew of 2* nobodies. OP sending a lot of fake news. Also cinci and houston each have a 4*.

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2019/...s/football

Rivals really does suck, 247 composite scores are really the only way to go. The troll in this thread worked out congrats OP you brought the crazy’s out of the woodwork. West coast 4 star guys are not as good as east coast 3 stars lol keep em coming guys.

Please explain to me how stars translate to on the field success? Do players wear them proudly on their jerseys? Do they automatically get drafted to the NFL over 2 or 3 stars? Do they get immediate playing time? Must be automatic chemistry and cohesiveness with players and coaches.

Funny Cincinnati this season had a true freshman receiver with a 247 composite of .8315 getting quality minutes and stats, meanwhile another freshman receiver in his class had an .8796 and is transferring out seemingly because he wasn't getting playing time. So please tell me how 247 ratings translate on the field?

..or you guys can continue to blow yourselves over meaningless stars, while robbing your conference mates of money, and over-analyzing their recruit class ratings. because it sure as hell looks like they have some work to do.

(12-20-2018 02:48 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(12-20-2018 02:46 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Girls, girls, girls ... The 247 composite rankings have Boise at #57, UCF at #58, and Memphis at #59. We're all pretty.

Plus Memphis has a transfer from Auburn that's not included at all rankings so we might be a little prettier then the other two. Just an opinion.

Cincinnati has James Hudson coming in as a transfer from Michigan. He was a 4* .9121 coming out of high school and I'm not seeing him on the "almighty" 247 site for Cincinnati. That's the site we have to use though.. Boise says so.