Has it always been 6 primaries?

What must CUSA do to secure more than 6? This is the second consecutive year that CUSA has had at least 7 bowl eligible teams (that I know of off the top of my head). Didn't we have like 10 last year with a couple schools getting left out? Can someone look up how many primaries/secondaries and total # of bowl eligible teams we've had over the last few years? I would look this up myself but ironically enough I'm on a bowl myself (the toilet bowl) and in an area with terrible reception.

We need to work on a better TV package. "More money". What we have now is a joke, and Judy "whats-her-name" needs to be schitcanned!

(11-26-2018 07:59 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  We need to work on a better TV package. "More money". What we have now is a joke, and Judy "whats-her-name" needs to be schitcanned!

I second this ^

Win

who cares how many we have when they're all garbage anyway. Right now we have 6 bowl games I have no interest in watching. Adding more isn't going to increase my level of excitement.

Let's be real, our "bowl" games are the early season games against P5s.

(11-26-2018 07:59 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  We need to work on a better TV package. "More money". What we have now is a joke, and Judy "whats-her-name" needs to be schitcanned!

Both the AAC and MWC will be negotiating new contracts in the December 2018 to April 2019 time period. If both get anything near what they expect from ESPN and others (NBC, Fox, CBS etc.) then it will make no difference what Judy wants to do or does.

If on the other hand both fail to get close to what they expect then the answer is simple. CUSA needs to have better opponents and needs to defeat them...and do so frequently for several years. Bowl bids follow success on the field.

(11-26-2018 08:10 PM)Niner National Wrote:  who cares how many we have when they're all garbage anyway. Right now we have 6 bowl games I have no interest in watching. Adding more isn't going to increase my level of excitement.

Let's be real, our "bowl" games are the early season games against P5s.

More teams getting an extra month of practice helps the whole conference. It ain't about the bowl game.

(11-27-2018 04:22 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 08:10 PM)Niner National Wrote:  who cares how many we have when they're all garbage anyway. Right now we have 6 bowl games I have no interest in watching. Adding more isn't going to increase my level of excitement.

Let's be real, our "bowl" games are the early season games against P5s.

More teams getting an extra month of practice helps the whole conference. It ain't about the bowl game.

To me the whole “extra month of practice” thing is overrated. They already have a month of spring training, a month of preseason/August practices, then have 13 weeks (3 months) of in season practice. On top of that they have the February conditioning drills along with the “voluntary/mandatory” June and July ones that are going on so if the coaches can’t figure out who’s got it and who doesn’t they have bigger issues. It usually seems like more chances to get injuries as practice fields are in less than ideal shape, weather conditions are less than ideal and players don’t take it as serious as bowls are meant to be rewards. I realize this (field conditions, weather and practice level) isn’t true for all schools but it seems like every year there ends up being a serious injury or 2 that keeps players who are expected to contribute the following season out for most of next season. Same reason you are starting to see top picks on the draft sitting out bowl season. I realize I’ll be in the majority with these comments but just my .02 cents worth.

CUSA doesn't need more bowls, it needs better bowls. Winning and selling tickets is the only cure.

I remember reading a McMurphy Facebook post saying that by 2020 CUSA will have seven bowl tie ins. That will tie us with the American as the G5 conferences with the most bowl tie ins. We should be getting the Myrtle Beach Bowl once it starts up.

(11-26-2018 08:10 PM)Niner National Wrote:  who cares how many we have when they're all garbage anyway. Right now we have 6 bowl games I have no interest in watching. Adding more isn't going to increase my level of excitement.

Let's be real, our "bowl" games are the early season games against P5s.

Speak for yourself

(11-27-2018 09:41 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 08:10 PM)Niner National Wrote:  who cares how many we have when they're all garbage anyway. Right now we have 6 bowl games I have no interest in watching. Adding more isn't going to increase my level of excitement.

Let's be real, our "bowl" games are the early season games against P5s.

Speak for yourself

No kidding. Classic case of sour grapes.

(11-27-2018 09:41 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 08:10 PM)Niner National Wrote:  who cares how many we have when they're all garbage anyway. Right now we have 6 bowl games I have no interest in watching. Adding more isn't going to increase my level of excitement.

Let's be real, our "bowl" games are the early season games against P5s.

Speak for yourself

I was speaking for myself. Our bowls are turds and other than the most die hard fans of our programs, nobody cares. Attendance and tv ratings relative to p5 bowls proves reflect that.

The only bowl tie in we have of any interest to me is the new myrtle beach bowl, and I'm more excited at gorging myself on all you can eat seafood buffets than the actual game.

For the last two cycles, the NCAA has allowed conferences to sign primary deals equal to the average number of bowl-eligible teams from the previous cycle.

So, the real answer is that in order to be allowed to sign more primary bowl agreements, we need to average a higher number of bowl eligible teams over an extended period.

The new tie-ins will start in 2020 through 2025. CUSA can have Seven

AAC: 7
ACC: 11
Big 12: 7
Big Ten: 9
C-USA: 7
MAC: 6
Mountain West: 6
Pac-12: 8
SEC: 11
Sun Belt: 5
Independents: 0
Army: 1
BYU: 1

Seven primaries seems about right for us. There will be years like last year where 9-10 are eligible, but there will also be a few years like this year where we only get 7 teams eligible. This conference is growing and getting better. We just have to start winning more OOC games. At least we have been winning our bowl games for the most part. We have to keep that up as well.

(11-26-2018 08:06 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Win

Yes, it's as simple as that. Win. Better TV packages and all that other crap you guys are talking about will also come our way if we just win more games, specifically, more OOC games against quality G5's and against P5's, because the general public who aren't C-USA fans will actually wanna watch our brand then. It's really not complicated, and truly not even worth a thread or so much discussion. I'm not a fan of our commissioner either, but some of you love to always pin everything on her right from the outset.

Next topic.

(11-27-2018 07:35 AM)usm99 Wrote:  

(11-27-2018 04:22 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 08:10 PM)Niner National Wrote:  who cares how many we have when they're all garbage anyway. Right now we have 6 bowl games I have no interest in watching. Adding more isn't going to increase my level of excitement.

Let's be real, our "bowl" games are the early season games against P5s.

More teams getting an extra month of practice helps the whole conference. It ain't about the bowl game.

To me the whole “extra month of practice” thing is overrated. They already have a month of spring training, a month of preseason/August practices, then have 13 weeks (3 months) of in season practice. On top of that they have the February conditioning drills along with the “voluntary/mandatory” June and July ones that are going on so if the coaches can’t figure out who’s got it and who doesn’t they have bigger issues. It usually seems like more chances to get injuries as practice fields are in less than ideal shape, weather conditions are less than ideal and players don’t take it as serious as bowls are meant to be rewards. I realize this (field conditions, weather and practice level) isn’t true for all schools but it seems like every year there ends up being a serious injury or 2 that keeps players who are expected to contribute the following season out for most of next season. Same reason you are starting to see top picks on the draft sitting out bowl season. I realize I’ll be in the majority with these comments but just my .02 cents worth.

Top picks in the draft don't need the bowl practice and won't be on the team the following year, anyway. And if someone gets hurt in December, they aren't going to be out 8 months later for the next season. Maybe the extra month of practice is why the same teams go bowling every year and the same ones don't, for the most part, everything else being equal.

(11-26-2018 08:10 PM)Niner National Wrote:  who cares how many we have when they're all garbage anyway. Right now we have 6 bowl games I have no interest in watching. Adding more isn't going to increase my level of excitement.

Let's be real, our "bowl" games are the early season games against P5s.

Unfortunately, I have to concur with the above assessment of the situation. I never thought all that much of the Liberty Bowl, until we lost it. None of what we have remaining helps move the needle anymore. Only an Access Bowl would make a difference the way things are.

For me it's simple...Win OOC.

Look at our record against top 25 teams this year, it's pathetic. Aside from that ODU shocker, we are dead to rights.