(10-29-2018 01:53 PM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  Board of Regents took over the McNair investigation. Loh serves at the pleasure of the board.

You mean he does not work for the guy from Towson State? They one who took over for Kirwan? Also the flow chart is one thing and the power is another. I guess I should have asked do the Regents have a defined outcome they seek?

(10-29-2018 04:05 PM)Statefan Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 01:53 PM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  Board of Regents took over the McNair investigation. Loh serves at the pleasure of the board.

You mean he does not work for the guy from Towson State? They one who took over for Kirwan? Also the flow chart is one thing and the power is another. I guess I should have asked do the Regents have a defined outcome they seek?

This is from Dinich's article, the meetings were to be with University System of Maryland Chancellor Robert L. Caret who was at Towson. But : "The USM board of regents can make recommendations, but the only person it can actually fire is Loh. The board hired him, and according to Loh's employment agreement, "your service as president is at the pleasure of the Board of Regents."

It's a good point you made. It's a bit odd. As for an outcome they seek, I'm not sure. Loh supposedly has some powerful friends in the political world that are supporting him but in the court of public opinion, he's probably done. I've seen some crazy things today. Rumors of Loh and Evans going to be gone but Durkin is being brought back. Rumors of the BOR wanting Loh to fire Durkin and Evans and then in the near future, Loh "retires". It's insane.

We *might* have an actual decision and announcement TODAY.

https://twitter.com/RickMaese/status/0?s=19

(10-29-2018 08:17 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 09:50 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 09:05 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:09 PM)Statefan Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 07:10 AM)XLance Wrote:  

It is funny and sad, too.

The ACC needs at least one more "big stadium" football school. Unfortunately the only one located in the area where the ACC really needs one (a big stadium school) the most, went over to the dark side after being snubbed by the Big East and ignored by the ACC.

Do you think the B1G would go for a swap? Maryland for Pitt and a 5/8ths interest in Notre Dame for Penn State?

Given the behind the scenes skullduggery and backstabbing that went on with Loh and Kirwan, I don't know that MD could get the votes to rejoin, unless they brought Penn State with them.

Maybe Penn State would really rather have Rutgers join them instead of Maryland.
That might work better for Syracuse and BC too!

I doubt SU would want Rutgers anymore than BC wanted UConn. Of course the ACC could give two what SU wants at this point. Other than 11 NCAA units in 5 years and a lowly bowl win in our first year, we haven't contributed a lot in terms of perception or $$$.

We were however THE KEY to killing the hybrid Big East. And assisted Pitt and BC with getting ND in the conference on a 5/8ths basis as well. (Sorry TerryD, this seems to be my night for sh!t talking )

Oh and our AD at the time Dr. Gross really, really, really talked up how great Louisville was (Sorry UConn fans, again I seem to be in a sh!t talking mood tonight).

So maybe we haven't done too bad after all?

Cheers,
Neil

Neil,

comment re-posted from 2013:

"Would 'Cuse be rendered almost null and void for football if Rutgers is in the Big Ten?.....Probably"

Who said that? Don't believe it was me. Was it you?

Now I do recall saying that I thought Rutgers could do better than some expect in the Big Ten IF they got the top notch Jersey recruits but that it might take some time since they would find the schedule a big step up just as we did when we came to the ACC.

Cheers,
Neil

The BOR acted lightning fast in approving Maryland's move to the Big Ten but have been slow and deliberate in deciding the fates of Loh, Evans and Durkin. That tells me there must have been a lot of coordination between Loh and Kirwan and certain key BOR members months in advance of Maryland's announced move to the Big Ten. That said, I don't believe Maryland would return to the ACC unless pay for play compels Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Clemson, Louisville and Florida to leave their respective conferences. I just can't imagine Maryland paying its football players a salary. And I wouldn't have issue with Maryland choosing to "downgrade" football.

Not official until later but reports are out the Durkin, Evans and Loh keep their jobs.

https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/1...48736?s=19

Son of a...

Mr. Under Armour must love Durkin. All those donations better be worth it...

Quote:Jeff Ermann
‏@Jeff_Ermann

BREAKING: DJ Durkin is returning as #Terps football coach and will be on the sidelines for Saturday's game against Michigan State, multiple sources said.

11:21 AM - 30 Oct 2018

Sometimes it amazes me Twitter is free. Loh didn't want Durkin back and reports indicate he'll retire in June.

https://twitter.com/RickMaese/status/105...79521?s=19

https://twitter.com/RickMaese/status/105...80417?s=19

(10-30-2018 01:10 PM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  Not official until later but reports are out the Durkin, Evans and Loh keep their jobs.

https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/1...48736?s=19

Son of a...

LOL...I guess we were destined for more misery from the get go.

Otoh, there's a school out there that will be lucky to hire Matt Canada as its HC.

(10-30-2018 01:10 PM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  Not official until later but reports are out the Durkin, Evans and Loh keep their jobs.

https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/1...48736?s=19

Son of a...

Circle those wagons.

(10-30-2018 01:10 PM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  Not official until later but reports are out the Durkin, Evans and Loh keep their jobs.

https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/1...48736?s=19

Son of a...

Maybe it's just me but my definition of......

Loh said. "The University accepts legal and moral responsibility for the mistakes that were made on that fateful day. ... They misdiagnosed the situation."

is slightly different than theirs.......

So the conference is going on but Durkin and Evans will be back. Loh will retire at the end of this school year.

This will definitely not end well.

(10-30-2018 09:21 AM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 08:17 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 09:50 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 09:05 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:09 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Given the behind the scenes skullduggery and backstabbing that went on with Loh and Kirwan, I don't know that MD could get the votes to rejoin, unless they brought Penn State with them.

Maybe Penn State would really rather have Rutgers join them instead of Maryland.
That might work better for Syracuse and BC too!

I doubt SU would want Rutgers anymore than BC wanted UConn. Of course the ACC could give two what SU wants at this point. Other than 11 NCAA units in 5 years and a lowly bowl win in our first year, we haven't contributed a lot in terms of perception or $$$.

We were however THE KEY to killing the hybrid Big East. And assisted Pitt and BC with getting ND in the conference on a 5/8ths basis as well. (Sorry TerryD, this seems to be my night for sh!t talking )

Oh and our AD at the time Dr. Gross really, really, really talked up how great Louisville was (Sorry UConn fans, again I seem to be in a sh!t talking mood tonight).

So maybe we haven't done too bad after all?

Cheers,
Neil

Neil,

comment re-posted from 2013:

"Would 'Cuse be rendered almost null and void for football if Rutgers is in the Big Ten?.....Probably"

Who said that? Don't believe it was me. Was it you?

Now I do recall saying that I thought Rutgers could do better than some expect in the Big Ten IF they got the top notch Jersey recruits but that it might take some time since they would find the schedule a big step up just as we did when we came to the ACC.

Cheers,
Neil

Woad.

(10-30-2018 07:34 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 09:21 AM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 08:17 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 09:50 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 09:05 PM)XLance Wrote:  Maybe Penn State would really rather have Rutgers join them instead of Maryland.
That might work better for Syracuse and BC too!

I doubt SU would want Rutgers anymore than BC wanted UConn. Of course the ACC could give two what SU wants at this point. Other than 11 NCAA units in 5 years and a lowly bowl win in our first year, we haven't contributed a lot in terms of perception or $$$.

We were however THE KEY to killing the hybrid Big East. And assisted Pitt and BC with getting ND in the conference on a 5/8ths basis as well. (Sorry TerryD, this seems to be my night for sh!t talking )

Oh and our AD at the time Dr. Gross really, really, really talked up how great Louisville was (Sorry UConn fans, again I seem to be in a sh!t talking mood tonight).

So maybe we haven't done too bad after all?

Cheers,
Neil

Neil,

comment re-posted from 2013:

"Would 'Cuse be rendered almost null and void for football if Rutgers is in the Big Ten?.....Probably"

Who said that? Don't believe it was me. Was it you?

Now I do recall saying that I thought Rutgers could do better than some expect in the Big Ten IF they got the top notch Jersey recruits but that it might take some time since they would find the schedule a big step up just as we did when we came to the ACC.

Cheers,
Neil

Woad.

Well that explains it. I guess we know with the CFP rankings out today, thankfully for us SU fans, that didn't turn out to be the case.

But we still have a LONG, LONG way to go. Including locking up Babers to a long term deal and then keep our fingers crossed that a King doesn't come sniffing around for another three to four years.

Cheers,
Neil

(10-30-2018 02:31 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 01:10 PM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  Not official until later but reports are out the Durkin, Evans and Loh keep their jobs.

https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/1...48736?s=19

Son of a...

Maybe it's just me but my definition of......

Loh said. "The University accepts legal and moral responsibility for the mistakes that were made on that fateful day. ... They misdiagnosed the situation."

is slightly different than theirs.......

Maybe couldn't afford BOTH the $$$ they will have to pay out in a civil lawsuit and Durkin's buyout, especially if UA was backing Durkin?

Cheers,
Neil

(10-30-2018 08:06 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 02:31 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 01:10 PM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  Not official until later but reports are out the Durkin, Evans and Loh keep their jobs.

https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/1...48736?s=19

Son of a...

Maybe it's just me but my definition of......

Loh said. "The University accepts legal and moral responsibility for the mistakes that were made on that fateful day. ... They misdiagnosed the situation."

is slightly different than theirs.......

Maybe couldn't afford BOTH the $$$ they will have to pay out in a civil lawsuit and Durkin's buyout, especially if UA was backing Durkin?

Cheers,
Neil

Funds for a civil settlement would likely come out of liability insurance, not athletics department funds.

(10-30-2018 04:22 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

This will definitely not end well.

Even IF (and that's a big IF...) Durkin was "unfairly blamed" and had no part in what happened, how can he walk into a recruit's home and convince him to go to Maryland? How can he look the kid's parent(s) in the eye and tell them he's going to look after their son?

I know if I had a highly rated prospect for a son and DJ Durkin came a calling, I'd be hard pressed to let my son play football for him.

As harsh as it may seem, it would have been in the best interests of the University and the football team to let Durkin go and move on.

(10-31-2018 09:04 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 04:22 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

This will definitely not end well.

Even IF (and that's a big IF...) Durkin was "unfairly blamed" and had no part in what happened, how can he walk into a recruit's home and convince him to go to Maryland? How can he look the kid's parent(s) in the eye and tell them he's going to look after their son?

I know if I had a highly rated prospect for a son and DJ Durkin came a calling, I'd be hard pressed to let my son play football for him.

As harsh as it may seem, it would have been in the best interests of the University and the football team to let Durkin go and move on.

Maryland has compounded its problem with this decision. Rightly or wrongly, the public would have understood the decision to fire them now. But, having decided to keep them on the merits of the case, on what grounds would they fire them later when this grenade goes off in their hand?

Durkin Out says Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spor...a7d6a01ffb