(10-29-2018 01:48 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 01:17 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  CNN receives pipe bombs and he wants to continue to amp up rhetoric that media networks are enemies... and then we act surprised when they get pipe bombs? Wtf. This is inappropriate behavior and borderline sociopathic.

Sort of like how the left calls for Punching Nazis, when all the right is defined as Nazi.

They'll be quite surprised when the Radleft starts defining some of the Demos own members as "nazis", and start swinging.

(10-29-2018 01:48 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 01:17 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  CNN receives pipe bombs and he wants to continue to amp up rhetoric that media networks are enemies... and then we act surprised when they get pipe bombs? Wtf. This is inappropriate behavior and borderline sociopathic.

Sort of like how the left calls for Punching Nazis, when all the right is defined as Nazi.

Hyperbolic. You're not a victim. Stop pretending like you are some disenfranchised poor soul just because you're conservative and people disagree with you. Liberals do not call every conservative a Nazi. Are there ultracons that side with Nazi ideals? Sure. Are their ultralibs with similarly evil stances? Sure.

(10-29-2018 02:29 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 01:48 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 01:17 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  CNN receives pipe bombs and he wants to continue to amp up rhetoric that media networks are enemies... and then we act surprised when they get pipe bombs? Wtf. This is inappropriate behavior and borderline sociopathic.

Sort of like how the left calls for Punching Nazis, when all the right is defined as Nazi.

Hyperbolic. You're not a victim. Stop pretending like you are some disenfranchised poor soul just because you're conservative and people disagree with you. Liberals do not call every conservative a Nazi. Are there ultracons that side with Nazi ideals? Sure. Are their ultralibs with similarly evil stances? Sure.

Oh, OK. OUR side’s words have meanings. YOURS don’t. Got it.

It's all quite clear what liberals think of conservatives. Kinda sucks doesn’t it to get that same feeling, those words returned? Welcome to the consequences to the New Rules you created.

(10-29-2018 02:51 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 02:29 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 01:48 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 01:17 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  CNN receives pipe bombs and he wants to continue to amp up rhetoric that media networks are enemies... and then we act surprised when they get pipe bombs? Wtf. This is inappropriate behavior and borderline sociopathic.

Sort of like how the left calls for Punching Nazis, when all the right is defined as Nazi.

Hyperbolic. You're not a victim. Stop pretending like you are some disenfranchised poor soul just because you're conservative and people disagree with you. Liberals do not call every conservative a Nazi. Are there ultracons that side with Nazi ideals? Sure. Are there ultralibs with similarly evil stances? Sure.

Oh, OK. OUR side’s words have meanings. YOURS don’t. Got it.

It's all quite clear what liberals think of conservatives. Kinda sucks doesn’t it to get that same feeling, those words returned? Welcome to the consequences to the New Rules you created.

Apparently it's one side fits all to you. Got it. I wasn't aware that I generalized every con poster on Spin Room together but if that's how you prefer it I can start.

(10-29-2018 03:01 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Apparently it's one side fits all to you. Got it. I wasn't aware that I generalized every con poster on Spin Room together but if that's how you prefer it I can start.

Your're looking for ephemeral evidence of footprints, instead of evidence of feet.

(10-29-2018 01:17 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  CNN receives pipe bombs and he wants to continue to amp up rhetoric that media networks are enemies... and then we act surprised when they get pipe bombs? Wtf. This is inappropriate behavior and borderline sociopathic.

You know, before Trump was even running there were targeted attacks against various GOP offices, Occupy Wallstreet and other Occupy groups were attacking people.

Then there was the guy that shot people at GOP reps at the practice field.

Antifa has been making the rounds in cities across the country with their own brand of violence.

Don't forget this (even though the media did their darnedest to not report it):

Man planned to set off 200-pound bomb on Mall in Washington, FBI says

Guess what, though... his bomb actually worked.

Quote:On Tuesday, the FBI raided his home in Rockland County and found a workable bomb in his basement.

(10-29-2018 05:48 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 01:17 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  CNN receives pipe bombs and he wants to continue to amp up rhetoric that media networks are enemies... and then we act surprised when they get pipe bombs? Wtf. This is inappropriate behavior and borderline sociopathic.

You know, before Trump was even running there were targeted attacks against various GOP offices, Occupy Wallstreet and other Occupy groups were attacking people.

Then there was the guy that shot people at GOP reps at the practice field.

Antifa has been making the rounds in cities across the country with their own brand of violence.

Don't forget this (even though the media did their darnedest to not report it):

Man planned to set off 200-pound bomb on Mall in Washington, FBI says

Guess what, though... his bomb actually worked.

Quote:On Tuesday, the FBI raided his home in Rockland County and found a workable bomb in his basement.

Their entire philosophy is a mental disorder and they want the rules to make politicians to be responsible for individuals' mental health? Careful what you ask for, you might get it.

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(10-29-2018 10:24 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...rosperity/

"...It turns out though that a whole lot of voters agree with Mr. Trump. If Mr. Trump is a bigot for articulating his America First paradigm, doesn’t that mean the millions of formerly Democratic voters who crossed over to vote for Mr. Trump, must also be narrow-minded and culturally inferior rednecks too?

In other words, liberals really do hold the view that blue-collar voters are a gang of “deplorables.” Good luck winning back their votes. Ironically, as Democrats keep complaining that Mr. Trump’s Tax cuts only benefit the rich, actually the wealthiest counties in America are now overwhelmingly voting Democratic and the poorest counties and states are more likely to vote Republican.

Politics is a contact sport. And yes, it really all does come down to winning. There aren’t too many moral victories in politics. As two-time winner Bill Clinton used to say, you can’t change the country if you don’t win.

The problem for the Trump haters and the reason they are so spitting angry is that Mr. Trump is changing the country — for the better. Seven of ten voters rate the economy as good or great. Liberals are doubly angry and frustrated because they were so sure he would fail. Hmm. Perhaps they are the ones who are intellectually inferior."

Quote:It may have been politically ill-advised and numerically imprecise for Hillary Clinton to declare at a fundraiser in September 2016 that roughly half of Donald Trump's supporters belong in a "basket of deplorables" characterized by irredeemably "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic" views. But it was undeniably true.

This was obvious at the time, and it's even more so now, after the horrifying events of the past week — including the mailing of a dozen pipe bombs to prominent Democrats and the single deadliest attack on the Jewish community in American history.

https://theweek.com/articles/804382/revenge-deporables

(10-29-2018 02:51 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 02:29 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 01:48 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 01:17 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  CNN receives pipe bombs and he wants to continue to amp up rhetoric that media networks are enemies... and then we act surprised when they get pipe bombs? Wtf. This is inappropriate behavior and borderline sociopathic.

Sort of like how the left calls for Punching Nazis, when all the right is defined as Nazi.

Hyperbolic. You're not a victim. Stop pretending like you are some disenfranchised poor soul just because you're conservative and people disagree with you. Liberals do not call every conservative a Nazi. Are there ultracons that side with Nazi ideals? Sure. Are their ultralibs with similarly evil stances? Sure.

Oh, OK. OUR side’s words have meanings. YOURS don’t. Got it.

It's all quite clear what liberals think of conservatives. Kinda sucks doesn’t it to get that same feeling, those words returned? Welcome to the consequences to the New Rules you created.

Well, uhhhh.

Pretty clear his word has no meaning. amirite?!?

So are there any Republicans on here that think that Trump's rhetoric about the media has been been unnecessary at best, dangerous at worst?

Or is the consensus that calling the press "the enemy of the people" is a good thing?

When the press tries to shape opinion, and willingly edits,twists, or omits critical data to further advance their agenda over a competing one, then they are the enemy of truth, and the people.

I can think for myself, and never ceded my right to evaluate a political discussion on its merits. I do not cede any higher intellect nor morality to the "other side" just because NBC or ABC say it is the right thing to do.

(10-29-2018 11:09 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  When the press tries to shape opinion, and willingly edits,twists, or omits critical data to further advance their agenda over a competing one, then they are the enemy of truth, and the people.

I can think for myself, and never ceded my right to evaluate a political discussion on its merits. I do not cede any higher intellect nor morality to the "other side" just because NBC or ABC say it is the right thing to do.

I don't think that anyone says that you cannot disagree with a news organization. In this polarized environment, it's impossible not to.

The question is whether it is over the line to characterize individuals whose opinions you disagree with in the same terms you would describe a hostile foreign power.

The President has the libs eating from his hand. He resides in their feeble minds every minute of the day.
He’s playing them like a bass fiddle.

It’s truly a sight to behold.

(10-29-2018 11:21 PM)450bench Wrote:  The President has the libs eating from his hand. He resides in their feeble minds every minute of the day.
He’s playing them like a bass fiddle.

It’s truly a sight to behold.

Reeeeeeeeee

(10-29-2018 11:21 PM)450bench Wrote:  The President has the libs eating from his hand. He resides in their feeble minds every minute of the day.
He’s playing them like a bass fiddle.

It’s truly a sight to behold.

Let me put it another way:
If Obama or Hillary called Trump "the enemy of the people" and applauded someone who attacked a member of his administration for showing their toughness, would you say,
"I don't agree, but that's fine for Americans to talk about other Americans that way"
or would you say,
"That is over the line"?

(10-29-2018 11:13 PM)atsKnight Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 11:09 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  When the press tries to shape opinion, and willingly edits,twists, or omits critical data to further advance their agenda over a competing one, then they are the enemy of truth, and the people.

I can think for myself, and never ceded my right to evaluate a political discussion on its merits. I do not cede any higher intellect nor morality to the "other side" just because NBC or ABC say it is the right thing to do.

I don't think that anyone says that you cannot disagree with a news organization. In this polarized environment, it's impossible not to.

The question is whether it is over the line to characterize individuals whose opinions you disagree with in the same terms you would describe a hostile foreign power.

The press is given a special role in our society with specific protection in the Constitution. When every piece of news goes through the "how can we make Trump look bad" filter, they set themselves up for the criticism they get.

Dancing Monarch, as usual, you say what I wanted to say so much more succinctly and clearly. Thank you!

(10-29-2018 11:56 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 11:13 PM)atsKnight Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 11:09 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  When the press tries to shape opinion, and willingly edits,twists, or omits critical data to further advance their agenda over a competing one, then they are the enemy of truth, and the people.

I can think for myself, and never ceded my right to evaluate a political discussion on its merits. I do not cede any higher intellect nor morality to the "other side" just because NBC or ABC say it is the right thing to do.

I don't think that anyone says that you cannot disagree with a news organization. In this polarized environment, it's impossible not to.

The question is whether it is over the line to characterize individuals whose opinions you disagree with in the same terms you would describe a hostile foreign power.

The press is given a special role in our society with specific protection in the Constitution. When every piece of news goes through the "how can we make Trump look bad" filter, they set themselves up for the criticism they get.

So you would be ok with Obama or Hillary talking about Trump that way?

(10-30-2018 12:00 AM)atsKnight Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 11:56 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 11:13 PM)atsKnight Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 11:09 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  When the press tries to shape opinion, and willingly edits,twists, or omits critical data to further advance their agenda over a competing one, then they are the enemy of truth, and the people.

I can think for myself, and never ceded my right to evaluate a political discussion on its merits. I do not cede any higher intellect nor morality to the "other side" just because NBC or ABC say it is the right thing to do.

I don't think that anyone says that you cannot disagree with a news organization. In this polarized environment, it's impossible not to.

The question is whether it is over the line to characterize individuals whose opinions you disagree with in the same terms you would describe a hostile foreign power.

The press is given a special role in our society with specific protection in the Constitution. When every piece of news goes through the "how can we make Trump look bad" filter, they set themselves up for the criticism they get.

So you would be ok with Obama or Hillary talking about Trump that way?

They are private citizens with the same freedom of speech that the rest of us have. Just as long as they don't yell, "Trump set the theater on fire!", while in the theater.

(10-30-2018 12:05 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 12:00 AM)atsKnight Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 11:56 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 11:13 PM)atsKnight Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 11:09 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  When the press tries to shape opinion, and willingly edits,twists, or omits critical data to further advance their agenda over a competing one, then they are the enemy of truth, and the people.

I can think for myself, and never ceded my right to evaluate a political discussion on its merits. I do not cede any higher intellect nor morality to the "other side" just because NBC or ABC say it is the right thing to do.

I don't think that anyone says that you cannot disagree with a news organization. In this polarized environment, it's impossible not to.

The question is whether it is over the line to characterize individuals whose opinions you disagree with in the same terms you would describe a hostile foreign power.

The press is given a special role in our society with specific protection in the Constitution. When every piece of news goes through the "how can we make Trump look bad" filter, they set themselves up for the criticism they get.

So you would be ok with Obama or Hillary talking about Trump that way?

They are private citizens with the same freedom of speech that the rest of us have. Just as long as they don't yell, "Trump set the theater on fire!", while in the theater.

This is the argument that Democrats are making, which I agree with. When the President of the United States basks in chants of "lock her up", calls citizens "enemies of our country", and applauds violence against citizens, he is doing the same thing as yelling fire in a crowded theater.

The reason you can't yell fire is because any reasonable person should know what the consequences would be of their speech and how people would get hurt from the content and tone of their speech.