Where do yo guys dredge up these cavemen like Kavanaugh.

(09-26-2018 03:04 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

Where do yo guys dredge up these cavemen like Kavanaugh.

Already ran out of talking points to post and reverted back to reposting?

(09-26-2018 01:31 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:27 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ohhh Eric what if it was your daughter or wife that was drugged and hanged raped. You are pathetic and the exact opposite of a Christian.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/26/us/po...naugh.html

You keep worshipping and defending these people you false prophet.

None of Ms. Swetnick’s claims could be independently corroborated by The New York Times, and her lawyer, Michael Avenatti, declined to make her available for an interview.

But yet you have no issue with what Keith Ellison did.

More whattabout defenses........

Pathetic


Just need a Bill and Hilareeeee for the trifecta of pathetic. Can’t defend the man so I’ll give a whattabout.....

(09-26-2018 02:36 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:26 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:18 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  what is a credible investigation for you? Done by the FBI?

If I've said it once I've said it 10 times now...an investigation by ANY CREDIBLE BODY at this point. The FBI is likely the best qualified, but I'd be fine with any party independent from either political party or the senate committee.

so you think that the FBI is going to find something much different from the 6 previous investigations that they have done in regards to his background?

So, the FBI who did the background checks, FLAWLESS, but the one handling trump-Russia are all DEEP STATE HACKS? What a wonderful world you've created...lol

But bottom line, how the hell will I know if the FBI is going to find anything if you refuse to let them even investigate the allegations?

The background checks go all the way back to the age of 18 and nothing was found. How far you want them to go back?

His wife's step-great grandfather was a racist and owned slaves.

(09-26-2018 03:06 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:31 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:27 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ohhh Eric what if it was your daughter or wife that was drugged and hanged raped. You are pathetic and the exact opposite of a Christian.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/26/us/po...naugh.html

You keep worshipping and defending these people you false prophet.

None of Ms. Swetnick’s claims could be independently corroborated by The New York Times, and her lawyer, Michael Avenatti, declined to make her available for an interview.

But yet you have no issue with what Keith Ellison did.

More whattabout defenses........

Pathetic


Just need a Bill and Hilareeeee for the trifecta of pathetic. Can’t defend the man so I’ll give a whattabout.....

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, John Conyers, Keith Ellison, Al Franken-where do you Democrats dredge up such sludge?

For every Republican, people can point out 3 or 4 Democrats doing the same or worse.

And anyone with half a brain knows Avenetti's stuff is pure fiction. So is the Ramirez story. And Ford's is so full of holes, it can't be believed in contrast to his whole behavior otherwise the last 40 years.

(09-26-2018 02:43 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:37 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:26 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  If I've said it once I've said it 10 times now...an investigation by ANY CREDIBLE BODY at this point. The FBI is likely the best qualified, but I'd be fine with any party independent from either political party or the senate committee.

so you think that the FBI is going to find something much different from the 6 previous investigations that they have done in regards to his background?

So, the FBI who did the background checks, FLAWLESS, but the one handling trump-Russia are all DEEP STATE HACKS? What a wonderful world you've created...lol

But bottom line, how the hell will I know if the FBI is going to find anything if you refuse to let them even investigate the allegations?

But doesn't the reverse also hold true. We want the FBI to investigate these allegations and trust the outcome when they've already performed 6 background investigations and not turned up anything.
I had one of these done on me for a security clearance and they are pretty thorough. I would have a hard time thinking if Kavanaugh was the deviant he is being made out to be they wouldn't have come across someone who recalled him as such.

How did the FBI really missed the entries for Kavanaugh in the Yearbook that he contributed? They should have caught that when Bush nominated him. He would have been disqualified back then, and we would not be facing this issue today. What he added to described himself in high school in the Yearbook matches to what the three victims are now claiming. Both him and Judge bragged in recent years that they drink beer and all that. What is damning to Kavanaugh was what he entered in the Yearbook.

So you are saying despite interviewing countless people with no red flags they should be looking at yearbooks with the ramblings of teenagers. I'd say FBI agents have enough experience in these matters to give that it's due weight.

(09-26-2018 02:36 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:26 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:18 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  what is a credible investigation for you? Done by the FBI?

If I've said it once I've said it 10 times now...an investigation by ANY CREDIBLE BODY at this point. The FBI is likely the best qualified, but I'd be fine with any party independent from either political party or the senate committee.

so you think that the FBI is going to find something much different from the 6 previous investigations that they have done in regards to his background?

So, the FBI who did the background checks, FLAWLESS, but the one handling trump-Russia are all DEEP STATE HACKS? What a wonderful world you've created...lol

But bottom line, how the hell will I know if the FBI is going to find anything if you refuse to let them even investigate the allegations?

The background checks go all the way back to the age of 18 and nothing was found. How far you want them to go back?

They go back to the legal age. If he had had a criminal record as a minor they might have looked into that but probably wouldn't have made it public, however they probably would never have had to do that because a guy with a criminal record as a minor would never have been cleared as a candidate.

The sad thing in all of this is how both sides of the political aisle take everything to extreme in dealing with each other. We need a clear space to earnestly question, and appropriately bring up closeted issues, and more importantly to do it within the protocol of the procedures which are presently being trampled.

40 years ago there was still politics involved but never this shrill or intentionally malicious. Cavanaugh would have been questioned by the committee and if salacious details had emerged the issues would have come out during the process and then victims, had there been any, would have received a fairer hearing, but then so too would have the nominee. If the body of evidence had been against him then he likely would have withdrawn his nomination and the process would move on.

The reason the FBI doesn't investigate is that the Legislative body has not requested it formally. Until then they have no jurisdiction and no reason. The statute of limitations on filing a claim against what then would have been a minor over a he said she said would long have passed.

In reading responses on both sides of this political question I have to ask do any of you want an FBI that digs into your high school antics to decide your future after 3 or more decades of an adult track record? Do you want a government ruling over you that is so empowered? I don't. The risk of abuse of power is too great in those circumstances. The law should never be a tool of retribution or intimidation against citizens.

The victims here may be two. If Ford is telling the truth then she is a victim of Diane Fienstien who deliberately held back from introducing the accusations at the proper time so that she could play politics with it, thereby keeping Ford's accusations from receiving the attention of both parties in a setting where their efficacy would have been heard. And because of that Cavanaugh, if innocent, is a victim as well. Either way 1 is victimized by the same Fienstien political dirty trick.

Both are victimized here if Ford is telling the truth and if Cavanaugh was guilty, but in an episode that should have been handled in high school with both as minors, by their local police who would have been best suited to handle it, which is when and where it should have been dealt with. Ford is victimized in that case because it is when it could have been handled in a way that may have helped her life. And Cavanaugh if guilty then, might have improved his life by living it truthfully, instead of with buried bones to hide.

It's a pitiful commentary on just how degraded our political system has become. How are we going to find strong candidates to fill our appointed positions moving forward when this is the kind of damage and charade they will have to endure, and that indictment goes to both sides of the aisle.

This total break in House and Senate rules has to come to an end. And if I may say so this crap all started with televised proceedings where the presence of the camera created the extant audience for these publicity whores' pandering.

I'm old enough as some of you are to remember that wranglings in non public proceedings frequently produced healthier results for both parties.

I do recall there being interest in which 16 or 17 year old was getting laid at high school parties, some even went outside the door to verify. While its not my cup of tea listening to others do their business, adolescents do some dumb things. Doesn't make it right, but dumb nonetheless. I do think this is a which hunt trying to embrace the POUND ME TOO movement. Similar to the loaded questions like "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Tomorrow should be an interesting day...maybe Kavanaugh was on the grassy knoll in 63 when he was a 2 year old

(09-26-2018 03:06 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:31 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 01:27 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ohhh Eric what if it was your daughter or wife that was drugged and hanged raped. You are pathetic and the exact opposite of a Christian.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/26/us/po...naugh.html

You keep worshipping and defending these people you false prophet.

None of Ms. Swetnick’s claims could be independently corroborated by The New York Times, and her lawyer, Michael Avenatti, declined to make her available for an interview.

But yet you have no issue with what Keith Ellison did.

More whattabout defenses........

Pathetic


Just need a Bill and Hilareeeee for the trifecta of pathetic. Can’t defend the man so I’ll give a whattabout.....

As there are no specific allegations, there is nothing to defend.

(09-26-2018 03:26 PM)SeniorBearcat Wrote:  I do recall there being interest in which 16 or 17 year old was getting laid at high school parties, some even went outside the door to verify. While its not my cup of tea listening to others do their business, adolescents do some dumb things. Doesn't make it right, but dumb nonetheless. I do think this is a which hunt trying to embrace the POUND ME TOO movement. Similar to the loaded questions like "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Tomorrow should be an interesting day...maybe Kavanaugh was on the grassy knoll in 63 when he was a 2 year old

That was actually Rafael Cruz, father of the Zodiac Killer.

(09-26-2018 03:31 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 03:26 PM)SeniorBearcat Wrote:  I do recall there being interest in which 16 or 17 year old was getting laid at high school parties, some even went outside the door to verify. While its not my cup of tea listening to others do their business, adolescents do some dumb things. Doesn't make it right, but dumb nonetheless. I do think this is a which hunt trying to embrace the POUND ME TOO movement. Similar to the loaded questions like "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Tomorrow should be an interesting day...maybe Kavanaugh was on the grassy knoll in 63 when he was a 2 year old

That was actually Rafael Cruz, father of the Zodiac Killer.

And my math was wrong , Kavanaugh is only 53 and not 57 like I thought. Would be pretty tough for him to be accused of something before he was born, tricky, but doable in today's environment.

(09-26-2018 03:15 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:43 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:37 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:26 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  so you think that the FBI is going to find something much different from the 6 previous investigations that they have done in regards to his background?

So, the FBI who did the background checks, FLAWLESS, but the one handling trump-Russia are all DEEP STATE HACKS? What a wonderful world you've created...lol

But bottom line, how the hell will I know if the FBI is going to find anything if you refuse to let them even investigate the allegations?

But doesn't the reverse also hold true. We want the FBI to investigate these allegations and trust the outcome when they've already performed 6 background investigations and not turned up anything.
I had one of these done on me for a security clearance and they are pretty thorough. I would have a hard time thinking if Kavanaugh was the deviant he is being made out to be they wouldn't have come across someone who recalled him as such.

How did the FBI really missed the entries for Kavanaugh in the Yearbook that he contributed? They should have caught that when Bush nominated him. He would have been disqualified back then, and we would not be facing this issue today. What he added to described himself in high school in the Yearbook matches to what the three victims are now claiming. Both him and Judge bragged in recent years that they drink beer and all that. What is damning to Kavanaugh was what he entered in the Yearbook.

So you are saying despite interviewing countless people with no red flags they should be looking at yearbooks with the ramblings of teenagers. I'd say FBI agents have enough experience in these matters to give that it's due weight.

Actually in criminal cases, what a suspect wrote in the past and now could be used as evidence of the crime he did. The accusations had to do with sex. Some of the terms he used had to do with sex.

Boofed or boofing is like blowing drugs in a females behind or the front. The female is usually drunk or stoned.

Devil's triangle means having sex as a 3some as the female are drunk. The other term is where the guy puts his ding dong in all 3 holes of a drunk female. Those things did matched what was being said in those terms. We do not know what type they did, but should look at all those entries of all the guys put in. I posted the link in another thread what those terms Kavanaugh used, and those entries are sick and demeaning of women.

(09-26-2018 03:22 PM)JRsec Wrote:  In reading responses on both sides of this political question I have to ask do any of you want an FBI that digs into your high school antics to decide your future after 3 or more decades of an adult track record? Do you want a government ruling over you that is so empowered? I don't. The risk of abuse of power is too great in those circumstances. The law should never be a tool of retribution or intimidation against citizens.

I'll answer for the lefties here. Yes, as long as it's used against the right, it's A-okay.

Welcome to the new feminazi totalitarian world where the constitution has been torched, the lady of justice gets gagged, and millions go to prison on an accusation.

Screenshots of defamation judgments against CPL's client are now floating around.

lol, wtf did the alt-left hitch their wagon to?

I'd be curious to see what the public sentiment on Kavanaugh is at this point. My suspicion is people generally are souring on him (maybe not on this board but in a lot of places). I wrote the other day we can do better than him on the Supreme Court and I'm fully aware if he withdraws it's possible someone replaces him who is even more conservative.

Even if you don't believe any of the accusers, you have to admit (a) Kavanaugh has/had a drinking problem, (b) he made a lot of very ill-advised decisions in his youth (and some other questionable decisions much later in his life - there are way too many to list them in this response but I'd be happy to do so if people want them, and © he's just not impressive when in front of the committee or in front of the media.

But ram him through if you have to. I'm willing to deal with the consequences because I think it will help the Democrats cause in November. I truly believe that if Kavanaugh gets confirmed, the Democrats will win back both the Senate and House. Good luck in getting a replacement on the Supreme Court at that point, President Trump.

(09-26-2018 03:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Actually in criminal cases, what a suspect wrote in the past and now could be used as evidence of the crime he did. The accusations had to do with sex. Some of the terms he used had to do with sex.

Boofed or boofing is like blowing drugs in a females behind or the front. The female is usually drunk or stoned.

Devil's triangle means having sex as a 3some as the female are drunk. The other term is where the guy puts his ding dong in all 3 holes of a drunk female. Those things did matched what was being said in those terms. We do not know what type they did, but should look at all those entries of all the guys put in. I posted the link in another thread what those terms Kavanaugh used, and those entries are sick and demeaning of women.

I thought I had done it all, obviously I haven't. Could you explain to me how one blows drugs in a female's behind?

I'll hang up and listen.

(09-26-2018 03:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 03:15 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:43 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:37 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So, the FBI who did the background checks, FLAWLESS, but the one handling trump-Russia are all DEEP STATE HACKS? What a wonderful world you've created...lol

But bottom line, how the hell will I know if the FBI is going to find anything if you refuse to let them even investigate the allegations?

But doesn't the reverse also hold true. We want the FBI to investigate these allegations and trust the outcome when they've already performed 6 background investigations and not turned up anything.
I had one of these done on me for a security clearance and they are pretty thorough. I would have a hard time thinking if Kavanaugh was the deviant he is being made out to be they wouldn't have come across someone who recalled him as such.

How did the FBI really missed the entries for Kavanaugh in the Yearbook that he contributed? They should have caught that when Bush nominated him. He would have been disqualified back then, and we would not be facing this issue today. What he added to described himself in high school in the Yearbook matches to what the three victims are now claiming. Both him and Judge bragged in recent years that they drink beer and all that. What is damning to Kavanaugh was what he entered in the Yearbook.

So you are saying despite interviewing countless people with no red flags they should be looking at yearbooks with the ramblings of teenagers. I'd say FBI agents have enough experience in these matters to give that it's due weight.

Actually in criminal cases, what a suspect wrote in the past and now could be used as evidence of the crime he did. The accusations had to do with sex. Some of the terms he used had to do with sex.

Boofed or boofing is like blowing drugs in a females behind or the front. The female is usually drunk or stoned.

Devil's triangle means having sex as a 3some as the female are drunk. The other term is where the guy puts his ding dong in all 3 holes of a drunk female. Those things did matched what was being said in those terms. We do not know what type they did, but should look at all those entries of all the guys put in. I posted the link in another thread what those terms Kavanaugh used, and those entries are sick and demeaning of women.

(09-26-2018 03:52 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Even if you don't believe any of the accusers, you have to admit (a) Kavanaugh has/had a drinking problem, (b) he made a lot of very ill-advised decisions in his youth (and some other questionable decisions much later in his life - there are way too many to list them in this response but I'd be happy to do so if people want them, and © he's just not impressive when in front of the committee or in front of the media.

His yearbook quotes alone are enough to lend credibility to the idea that he would at least a party to the events the accusers mention.

(09-26-2018 03:52 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Even if you don't believe any of the accusers, you have to admit (a) Kavanaugh has/had a drinking problem, (b) he made a lot of very ill-advised decisions in his youth (and some other questionable decisions much later in his life - there are way too many to list them in this response but I'd be happy to do so if people want them, and © he's just not impressive when in front of the committee or in front of the media.

Did you read JRSec's post? Is there a single shred of evidence that Kavanaugh has a drinking problem today? What about his 30 years or so of public service? Any negatives?

Anyone who thinks a man with 30 years of experience and public record in the court system should be judged by the stupid **** he did in high school must have been raised in a cave.

Did you do stupid **** when you were in high school? How about college? Ever drink to excess? Boy I sure did. I remember the night driving home from Breaux Bridge so drunk I had to close one eye to eliminate double vision. Swore then and there if I made it home without getting my ass in a sling, I'd never do it again. I made it, didn't kill anyone, and didn't get arrested. I don't drink today, except perhaps a beer once a month or so.