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2018 Wins vs. the Power 5
For years, SouthGaEagle kept a tally of wins vs Power 5 on the CUSA board. SouthGaEagle has not logged in since February 2017 (RIP?), and no 2017 tracking post was made. I thought I would re-start the tradition here for 2018.

Chronological:
Week 1
1. Nicholls 26 - Kansas 23
2. BYU 28 - Arizona 23
3. Cincinnati 26 - UCLA 17

Week 2
4. USF 49 - Georgia Tech 38
5. ECU 41 - North Carolina 19
6. Houston 45 - Arizona 18
7. Eastern Mich 20 - Purdue 19
8. Colorado St 34 - Arkansas 27

Week 3
9. Temple 35 - Maryland 14
10. Troy 24 - Nebraska 19
11. USF 25 - Illinois 19
12. North Texas 44 - Arkansas 17
13. BYU 24 - #6 Wisconsin 21
14. Nevada 37 - Oregon St 35
15. Akron 39 - Northwestern 34
16. San Diego St 28 - #23 Arizona St 21
17. Fresno St 38 - UCLA 14

Week 4
1. Old Dominion 49 - #13 Virginia Tech 35
2. Buffalo 42 - Rutgers 13

Week 5
1. UCF 45 - Pitt 14

Week 8
1.

Winning Conference:
American
1. Cincinnati 26 - UCLA 17
2. USF 49 - Georgia Tech 38
3. ECU 41 - North Carolina 19
4. Houston 45 - Arizona 18
5. Temple 35 - Maryland 14
6. USF 25 - Illinois 19
7. UCF 45 - Pitt 14
8.
Note: UCF was heavily favored to beat UNC, but the game was postponed due to Flo.


Conference USA
1. North Texas 44 - Ark 17
2. Old Dominion 49 - #13 Virginia Tech 35
3.

MAC
1. Eastern Mich 20 - Purdue 19
2. Akron 39 - Northwestern 34
3. Buffalo 42 - Rutgers 13
4.

Mountain West
1. Colorado St 34 - Arkansas 27
2. Nevada 37 - Oregon St 35
3. San Diego St 28 - #23 Arizona St 21
4. Fresno St 38 - UCLA 14
5.

Sun Belt
1. Troy 24 - Nebraska 19
2.

Independent
1. BYU 28 - Arizona 23
2. BYU 24 - #6 Wisconsin 21
3.

FCS
1. Nicholls 26 - Kansas 23
2.


Losing Conference:
ACC
1. USF 49 - Georgia Tech 38
2. ECU 41 - North Carolina 19
3. Old Dominion 49 - #13 Virginia Tech 35
4. UCF 45 - Pitt 14
5.

Big 12
1. Nicholls 26 - Kansas 23
2.

Big Ten
1. Eastern Mich 20 - Purdue 19
2. Temple 35 - Maryland 14
3. Troy 24 - Nebraska 19
4. USF 25 - Illinois 19
5. BYU 24 - #6 Wisconsin 21
6. Akron 39 - Northwestern 34
7. Buffalo 42 - Rutgers 13
8.

Pac 12
1. BYU 28 - Arizona 23
2. Cincinnati 26 - UCLA 17
3. Houston 45 - Arizona 18
4. Nevada 37 - Oregon St 35
5. San Diego St 28 - #23 Arizona St 21
6. Fresno St 38 - UCLA 14
7.

SEC
1. Colorado St 34 - Arkansas 27
2. North Texas 44 - Arkansas 17
3.

Independent
1.
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RE: 2018 Wins vs. the Power 5
(09-09-2018 06:24 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  For years, SouthGaEagle kept a tally of wins vs Power 5 on the CUSA board. SouthGaEagle has not logged in since February 2017 (RIP?), and no 2017 tracking post was made. I thought I would re-start the tradition here for 2018.

Chronological:
Week 1
1. Nicholls 26 - Kansas 23
2. BYU 28 - Arizona 23
3. Cincinnati 26 - UCLA 17

Week 2
4. USF 49 - Georgia Tech 38
5. ECU 41 - North Carolina 19
6. Houston 45 - Arizona 18
7. Eastern Mich 20 - Purdue 19
8. Colorado St 34 - Arkansas 27

Week 3
9.


Winning Conference:
American
1. Cincinnati 26 - UCLA 17
2. USF 49 - Georgia Tech 38
3. ECU 41 - North Carolina 19
4. Houston 45 - Arizona 18
5.

Conference USA
1.

MAC
1. Eastern Mich 20 - Purdue 19
2.

Mountain West
1. Colorado St 34 - Arkansas 27
2.

Sun Belt
1.

Independent
1. BYU 28 - Arizona 23
2.

FCS
1. Nicholls 26 - Kansas 23
2.


Losing Conference:
ACC
1. USF 49 - Georgia Tech 38
2. ECU 41 - North Carolina 19
3.

Big 12
1. Nicholls 26 - Kansas 23
2.

Big Ten
1. Eastern Mich 20 - Purdue 19
2.

Pac 12
1. BYU 28 - Arizona 23
2. Cincinnati 26 - UCLA 17
3. Houston 45 - Arizona 18
4.

SEC
1. Colorado St 34 - Arkansas 27
2.

Independent
1.
Great post. I will be checking this thread out. Interesting data.04-cheers
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RE: 2018 Wins vs. the Power 5
Other than bragging rights among a few fans that care, I have to wonder if this results in any significant TV money to those bragging?
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(09-09-2018 09:07 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  Other than bragging rights among a few fans that care, I have to wonder if this results in any significant TV money to those bragging?

I think having home games against P5 opponents will help the next TV contract more than wins against the bottom 1/2 of the P5.
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(09-09-2018 09:07 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  Other than bragging rights among a few fans that care, I have to wonder if this results in any significant TV money to those bragging?


Regrettably, I agree.


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RE: 2018 Wins vs. the Power 5
(09-09-2018 09:07 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  Other than bragging rights among a few fans that care, I have to wonder if this results in any significant TV money to those bragging?

Ratings result in significant TV money.

If P5 wins drive ratings, then it matters.

From the 2015 season (when Navy joined and the American broke into divisions) until today, the AAC has 30 wins vs. P5.

Next highest is the MAC with 13 wins. MWC with 11.

In fact, the other four leagues combined have 31 wins over the period.
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RE: 2018 Wins vs. the Power 5
Week 3 would be interesting when ABC will show Boise State at Oklahoma State.The Cow Pokes are not even the bottom tier P5.

Week three possible wins.

UCF @ UNC
Troy @ Nebraska
Ball State @ Indiana
Miami, Flo. @ Toledo
UC-Davis @ Stanford I say push.
Boise State @ Oklahoma State
BYU @ Wisconsin
Arizona State @ San Diego State
Fresno State @ UCLA
Southern Utah @ Arizona

There are others, but they are more unlikely to win.
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RE: 2018 Wins vs. the Power 5
(09-09-2018 11:00 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(09-09-2018 09:07 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  Other than bragging rights among a few fans that care, I have to wonder if this results in any significant TV money to those bragging?


Regrettably, I agree.


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So now just posting objective data is bragging? Wow!! By that asinine rationale I guess the AP top 25 is "bragging " also,,,,, GEEZZZ LOLOL.01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle
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(09-10-2018 04:53 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Week 3 would be interesting when ABC will show Boise State at Oklahoma State.The Cow Pokes are not even the bottom tier P5.

Week three possible wins.

UCF @ UNC
Troy @ Nebraska
Ball State @ Indiana
Miami, Flo. @ Toledo
UC-Davis @ Stanford I say push.
Boise State @ Oklahoma State
BYU @ Wisconsin
Arizona State @ San Diego State
Fresno State @ UCLA
Southern Utah @ Arizona

There are others, but they are more unlikely to win.

So UC-DAVIS and SOUTHERN UTAH have a better chance in your opinion to beat STANFORD and ARIZONA than USF vs Illinois or Houston vs Texas Tech. Wow ok. You know the more you g4 fans troll and hate the AAC the more pathetic and obviously jealous it becomes to everyone else. 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-nutkick
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RE: 2018 Wins vs. the Power 5
(09-10-2018 04:53 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Week 3 would be interesting when ABC will show Boise State at Oklahoma State.The Cow Pokes are not even the bottom tier P5.

Week three possible wins.

UCF @ UNC
Troy @ Nebraska
Ball State @ Indiana
Miami, Flo. @ Toledo
UC-Davis @ Stanford I say push.
Boise State @ Oklahoma State
BYU @ Wisconsin
Arizona State @ San Diego State
Fresno State @ UCLA
Southern Utah @ Arizona

There are others, but they are more unlikely to win.

You forgot USF @ Illinois. USF is favored to win by more than a TD.
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Lovie’s homecoming to Soldier Field could be a bloodbath.
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RE: 2018 Wins vs. the Power 5
(09-10-2018 02:16 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(09-09-2018 09:07 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  Other than bragging rights among a few fans that care, I have to wonder if this results in any significant TV money to those bragging?

Ratings result in significant TV money.

If P5 wins drive ratings, then it matters.

From the 2015 season (when Navy joined and the American broke into divisions) until today, the AAC has 30 wins vs. P5.

Next highest is the MAC with 13 wins. MWC with 11.

In fact, the other four leagues combined have 31 wins over the period.

30 wins out of how many games?
Same question for other teams?
You need % to make a better comparison.
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2018 Wins vs. the Power 5
MW has 6 games against P5, chance of up to 5 wins.
ASU @ SD state
Boise@ Okie State
Oregon State @ Nevada
Fresno @ UCLA
SJSU @ Oregon
CSU @ Florida

Realistic chance with Boise, Nevada, Fresno and San Diego State
Long shot CSU
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(09-10-2018 11:51 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  MW has 6 games against P5, chance of up to 5 wins.
ASU @ SD state
Boise@ Okie State
Oregon State @ Nevada
Fresno @ UCLA
SJSU @ Oregon
CSU @ Florida

Realistic chance with Boise, Nevada, Fresno and San Diego State
Long shot CSU
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UF is no that good. A realistic chance as far as I am concerned.
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(09-10-2018 11:56 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  
(09-10-2018 11:51 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  MW has 6 games against P5, chance of up to 5 wins.
ASU @ SD state
Boise@ Okie State
Oregon State @ Nevada
Fresno @ UCLA
SJSU @ Oregon
CSU @ Florida

Realistic chance with Boise, Nevada, Fresno and San Diego State
Long shot CSU
No way in Hell San Jose


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UF is no that good. A realistic chance as far as I am concerned.


Agree about Florida, but CSU is not good either. They somehow beat Arkansas after 2 blow out losses to CU and Hawaii.


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(09-10-2018 11:44 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(09-10-2018 02:16 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(09-09-2018 09:07 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  Other than bragging rights among a few fans that care, I have to wonder if this results in any significant TV money to those bragging?

Ratings result in significant TV money.

If P5 wins drive ratings, then it matters.

From the 2015 season (when Navy joined and the American broke into divisions) until today, the AAC has 30 wins vs. P5.

Next highest is the MAC with 13 wins. MWC with 11.

In fact, the other four leagues combined have 31 wins over the period.

30 wins out of how many games?
Same question for other teams?
You need % to make a better comparison.

During that time, the AAC's record against P5 teams is 30-45 (40%).

ACC 13-14
PAC 4-1
B12 4-13
B1G 4-6
SEC 4-7
ND 1-4

Individual schools' records vs the ACC:

Houston 3-0
Navy 2-0
Cincy 1-0
USF 3-2
ECU 3-2
UConn 1-4
Tulsa 0-1
Temple 0-1
Tulane 0-4

Records vs P5:

Houston 7-1
USF 6-3
Memphis 4-3
Cincy 3-1
Navy 3-2
UCF 2-4
ECU 3-5
Temple 1-4
UConn 1-6
Tulsa 0-5
Tulane 0-5
SMU 0-6

What a contrast between the top of the AAC and the bottom. So, by the powers vested in me by (well, no one) I hereby declare the AAC to be one of the P5 1/2 and also one of the G5 1/2. Ya gotta like the symmetry in that.
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RE: 2018 Wins vs. the Power 5
(09-11-2018 08:28 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-10-2018 11:44 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(09-10-2018 02:16 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(09-09-2018 09:07 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  Other than bragging rights among a few fans that care, I have to wonder if this results in any significant TV money to those bragging?

Ratings result in significant TV money.

If P5 wins drive ratings, then it matters.

From the 2015 season (when Navy joined and the American broke into divisions) until today, the AAC has 30 wins vs. P5.

Next highest is the MAC with 13 wins. MWC with 11.

In fact, the other four leagues combined have 31 wins over the period.

30 wins out of how many games?
Same question for other teams?
You need % to make a better comparison.

During that time, the AAC's record against P5 teams is 30-45 (40%).

ACC 13-14
PAC 4-1
B12 4-13
B1G 4-6
SEC 4-7
ND 1-4

Individual schools' records vs the ACC:

Houston 3-0
Navy 2-0
Cincy 1-0
USF 3-2
ECU 3-2
UConn 1-4
Tulsa 0-1
Temple 0-1
Tulane 0-4

Records vs P5:

Houston 7-1
USF 6-3
Memphis 4-3
Cincy 3-1
Navy 3-2
UCF 2-4
ECU 3-5
Temple 1-4
UConn 1-6
Tulsa 0-5
Tulane 0-5
SMU 0-6

What a contrast between the top of the AAC and the bottom. So, by the powers vested in me by (well, no one) I hereby declare the AAC to be one of the P5 1/2 and also one of the G5 1/2. Ya gotta like the symmetry in that.

Well you can't get to 6 until you pass 5 1/2. The p6 is where we're headed not where we are at yet. I don't understand why some people don't understand that or are insecure about it to the point of real hate.04-cheers
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(09-11-2018 11:10 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(09-11-2018 08:28 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-10-2018 11:44 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(09-10-2018 02:16 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(09-09-2018 09:07 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  Other than bragging rights among a few fans that care, I have to wonder if this results in any significant TV money to those bragging?

Ratings result in significant TV money.

If P5 wins drive ratings, then it matters.

From the 2015 season (when Navy joined and the American broke into divisions) until today, the AAC has 30 wins vs. P5.

Next highest is the MAC with 13 wins. MWC with 11.

In fact, the other four leagues combined have 31 wins over the period.

30 wins out of how many games?
Same question for other teams?
You need % to make a better comparison.

During that time, the AAC's record against P5 teams is 30-45 (40%).

ACC 13-14
PAC 4-1
B12 4-13
B1G 4-6
SEC 4-7
ND 1-4

Individual schools' records vs the ACC:

Houston 3-0
Navy 2-0
Cincy 1-0
USF 3-2
ECU 3-2
UConn 1-4
Tulsa 0-1
Temple 0-1
Tulane 0-4

Records vs P5:

Houston 7-1
USF 6-3
Memphis 4-3
Cincy 3-1
Navy 3-2
UCF 2-4
ECU 3-5
Temple 1-4
UConn 1-6
Tulsa 0-5
Tulane 0-5
SMU 0-6

What a contrast between the top of the AAC and the bottom. So, by the powers vested in me by (well, no one) I hereby declare the AAC to be one of the P5 1/2 and also one of the G5 1/2. Ya gotta like the symmetry in that.

Well you can't get to 6 until you pass 5 1/2. The p6 is where we're headed not where we are at yet. I don't understand why some people don't understand that or are insecure about it to the point of real hate.04-cheers

i dont think the hate is as strong as you suggest. sure some do, but others only point out that the p5 will not allow an entire conference to join their ranks. just like the list above shows a clear gap within the conference, the p5 will just cherry pick the top teams they want, and leave the rest. but imo you are free to chase your p6 goals to your hearts content. 04-cheers
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(09-11-2018 12:32 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  
(09-11-2018 11:10 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(09-11-2018 08:28 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-10-2018 11:44 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(09-10-2018 02:16 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Ratings result in significant TV money.

If P5 wins drive ratings, then it matters.

From the 2015 season (when Navy joined and the American broke into divisions) until today, the AAC has 30 wins vs. P5.

Next highest is the MAC with 13 wins. MWC with 11.

In fact, the other four leagues combined have 31 wins over the period.

30 wins out of how many games?
Same question for other teams?
You need % to make a better comparison.

During that time, the AAC's record against P5 teams is 30-45 (40%).

ACC 13-14
PAC 4-1
B12 4-13
B1G 4-6
SEC 4-7
ND 1-4

Individual schools' records vs the ACC:

Houston 3-0
Navy 2-0
Cincy 1-0
USF 3-2
ECU 3-2
UConn 1-4
Tulsa 0-1
Temple 0-1
Tulane 0-4

Records vs P5:

Houston 7-1
USF 6-3
Memphis 4-3
Cincy 3-1
Navy 3-2
UCF 2-4
ECU 3-5
Temple 1-4
UConn 1-6
Tulsa 0-5
Tulane 0-5
SMU 0-6

What a contrast between the top of the AAC and the bottom. So, by the powers vested in me by (well, no one) I hereby declare the AAC to be one of the P5 1/2 and also one of the G5 1/2. Ya gotta like the symmetry in that.

Well you can't get to 6 until you pass 5 1/2. The p6 is where we're headed not where we are at yet. I don't understand why some people don't understand that or are insecure about it to the point of real hate.04-cheers

i dont think the hate is as strong as you suggest. sure some do, but others only point out that the p5 will not allow an entire conference to join their ranks. just like the list above shows a clear gap within the conference, the p5 will just cherry pick the top teams they want, and leave the rest. but imo you are free to chase your p6 goals to your hearts content. 04-cheers

Actually the p5 itself doesn't decide anything. You have some p5 conferences that are only p5 because the real powerbrokers decided that they wanted them to be. The actual deciders are the networks and the major bowls because they control the money. The old big east is a good example of that. When ESPN decided to that they no longer needed them they destroyed them. If you remember at the start of the CFP the AAC or any other conference would have been allowed to join the power ranks if they could secure a contract bowl. Guess what was needed for that,, hint a network willing to put money on up for that to happen. As I've said p6 is a goal to reach for,,,heck every g5 should be reaching for. Whether any make it or not, who knows but if you're not aiming for it then what's the point , but that's the American way. 04-cheers
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(09-11-2018 02:08 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(09-11-2018 12:32 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  
(09-11-2018 11:10 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(09-11-2018 08:28 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-10-2018 11:44 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  30 wins out of how many games?
Same question for other teams?
You need % to make a better comparison.

During that time, the AAC's record against P5 teams is 30-45 (40%).

ACC 13-14
PAC 4-1
B12 4-13
B1G 4-6
SEC 4-7
ND 1-4

Individual schools' records vs the ACC:

Houston 3-0
Navy 2-0
Cincy 1-0
USF 3-2
ECU 3-2
UConn 1-4
Tulsa 0-1
Temple 0-1
Tulane 0-4

Records vs P5:

Houston 7-1
USF 6-3
Memphis 4-3
Cincy 3-1
Navy 3-2
UCF 2-4
ECU 3-5
Temple 1-4
UConn 1-6
Tulsa 0-5
Tulane 0-5
SMU 0-6

What a contrast between the top of the AAC and the bottom. So, by the powers vested in me by (well, no one) I hereby declare the AAC to be one of the P5 1/2 and also one of the G5 1/2. Ya gotta like the symmetry in that.

Well you can't get to 6 until you pass 5 1/2. The p6 is where we're headed not where we are at yet. I don't understand why some people don't understand that or are insecure about it to the point of real hate.04-cheers

i dont think the hate is as strong as you suggest. sure some do, but others only point out that the p5 will not allow an entire conference to join their ranks. just like the list above shows a clear gap within the conference, the p5 will just cherry pick the top teams they want, and leave the rest. but imo you are free to chase your p6 goals to your hearts content. 04-cheers

Actually the p5 itself doesn't decide anything. You have some p5 conferences that are only p5 because the real powerbrokers decided that they wanted them to be. The actual deciders are the networks and the major bowls because they control the money. The old big east is a good example of that. When ESPN decided to that they no longer needed them they destroyed them. If you remember at the start of the CFP the AAC or any other conference would have been allowed to join the power ranks if they could secure a contract bowl. Guess what was needed for that,, hint a network willing to put money on up for that to happen. As I've said p6 is a goal to reach for,,,heck every g5 should be reaching for. Whether any make it or not, who knows but if you're not aiming for it then what's the point , but that's the American way. 04-cheers

Aresco's P6 campaign is harmless, it's also ineffectual, can never amount to anything, because history shows that conferences don't get promoted to "power" status, only schools do.

That was demonstrated yet again two years ago when the Big 12 said they were considering expansion: Every single G5 school, your Memphis and my USF included, went hat in hand to Big 12 headquarters begging to be invited to the Big 12, we were all ready to ditch the AAC in a nanosecond.

That's what every G5 school should be doing - constantly striving to build its brand so that a A5 conference will want you to join. I sure hope USF is doing that, round the clock. 07-coffee3
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