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MS-13/Dems vs ICE/GOP
Like Trump said: They want to abolish ICE. We want to abolish MS-13.

Well, Dems.... here's who you're backing.

Suspected MS-13 member broke into sleeping girl’s bedroom, raped her: cops

Quote:A purported member of the MS-13 gang broke into the bedroom of a sleeping 11-year-old Brooklyn girl and raped her in her bed, cops said Saturday as the suspect was taken into custody.
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(09-02-2018 04:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Skinheads/Neo-Nazis (GOP) v FBI (Democrats)

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/...trak-train

A corrupt government agency is much scarier than some hairless white dudes with no power.
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There’s no Democracrats supporting MS-13 or MS-13 members supporting Democrats; but there’s plenty of love between the white nationalists and the GOP. Just see Trump’s “there are good people on both sides” comments. Right-wingers cozy up to America’s adversaries, play footsie with racists and white nationalists, denigrate the free press, malign our judiciary, cast aspersions on our law enforcement, and work overtime to deny American citizens their right to vote. They are complete traitors to American ideals. They represent the worst in our society.
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Nancy Pelosi on MS-13..."these people are not animals. They have a spark of divinity. I believe in the dignity and worth of every person."
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(09-02-2018 05:01 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Nancy Pelosi on MS-13..."these people are not animals. They have a spark of divinity. I believe in the dignity and worth of every person."

Why are you telling lies? Are you afraid of the truth?
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(09-02-2018 05:06 PM)Momus Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 05:01 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Nancy Pelosi on MS-13..."these people are not animals. They have a spark of divinity. I believe in the dignity and worth of every person."

Why are you telling lies? Are you afraid of the truth?

Seems like you are more afraid of the truth.
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(09-02-2018 05:06 PM)Momus Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 05:01 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Nancy Pelosi on MS-13..."these people are not animals. They have a spark of divinity. I believe in the dignity and worth of every person."

Why are you telling lies? Are you afraid of the truth?

Project much?
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Politifact says what usm is claiming is false. I know righties don’t like groups that point out their lies, but the truth is what it is.
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By the way right-wingers, feel free to address the right-wing’s treachery in regards to American ideals. I know you want to talk about brown people you are scared of, but that gets old fast.
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Donald Trump on neo-nazi’s ... “they’re very fine people”
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(09-02-2018 05:15 PM)Momus Wrote:  Politifact says what usm is claiming is false. I know righties don’t like groups that point out their lies, but the truth is what it is.

When she made this statement below, it had been reported and clarified in the media the day before that Trump was referring to violent illegal immigrant gang members as animals. Yet she still made it.


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The right-wing loves to bring up things like MS-13 when talking about undocumented workers because it gives their racist stances that thin veneer of legitimacy. Anyone with a working brain can see right through it.
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(09-02-2018 04:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Skinheads/Neo-Nazis (GOP) v FBI (Democrats)

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/...trak-train

https://csnbbs.com/thread-833895.html
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...ab27298e0d

Quote:When Trump declared at a White House roundtable “You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people. These are animals,” he was clearly referring to MS-13. But the media and Democrats took the president’s quote out of context and declared that he had referred to all illegal immigrants as animals. The Associated Press tweeted that “Trump referred to those crossing US border illegally as ‘animals.’ ” The New York Times tweeted, “Trump lashed out at undocumented immigrants during a White House meeting, calling those trying to breach the country’s borders ‘animals.’ ” Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) declared, “When all of our great-great-grandparents came to America they weren’t ‘animals,’ and these people aren’t either.”

By the next morning, news organizations were walking back their stories. The Associated Press announced it had “deleted a tweet from late Wednesday on Trump’s ‘animals’ comment about immigrants because it wasn’t made clear that he was speaking after a comment about gang members.”

But not Pelosi, the House minority leader. Even after it was clear that Trump was referring to gang members, the California Democrat still claimed the president had called “undocumented immigrants” animals, declaring at a news conference that his remarks “inhumane” and that “we’re all God’s children . . . Does he not believe in the spark of divinity, the dignity and worth of every person?”

Of course, we are all created in the image and likeness of God. That is true of MS-13 members. It was also true of Osama bin Laden, Pol Pot and Adolf Hitler. But can you imagine Pelosi standing up in outrage to defend their humanity? Referring to evil men as “animals” is a common colloquial expression. The Oxford Dictionary’s definition of the word “animal” includes “a person without human attributes or civilizing influences, especially someone who is very cruel, violent, or repulsive.” It offers, as an example of its proper use: “those men have to be animals — what they did to that boy was savage.” Which is exactly how Trump used the word.

To this day, Pelosi has neither retracted her remarks nor admitted she was wrong. So now Trump is giving as good as he got. “I noticed recently where Democrats, Nancy Pelosi as an example, are trying to defend MS-13 gang members,” Trump declared at a Long Island event last week. “I called them animals the other day and I was met with rebuke. They said, ‘they are people.’ They are not people. These are animals.”
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(09-02-2018 05:17 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Donald Trump on neo-nazi’s ... “they’re very fine people”

Perhaps you should actually put in the full quote, with full context. What a slimy little ()-weasel you exhibit yourself as with that attempt.

Every time I get fed up with Trumpistas hiding behind 'fake news' there is always some weasel-ass liberal who pulls the 'partial quote' out of context manuever just to show how ignorant that side is. Good for you 'menso'.

At least have the guts or balls to put up the full quote, with all the verbiage around it for context. Or play that slimy little weasel **** you put on display there. Your choice. Awesome job.

Odds are you dont have the chops or the stones to do the full quote with context thing.
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(09-02-2018 05:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 04:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Skinheads/Neo-Nazis (GOP) v FBI (Democrats)

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/...trak-train

https://csnbbs.com/thread-833895.html

It is perfectly acceptable to make the ridiculous assertion that Democrats support MS-13 but its off topic to assert the real connection between this President and the white supremacist movement.

This is unquestionably a conservatively moderated forum. Ridiculous.
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(09-02-2018 06:05 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 05:17 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Donald Trump on neo-nazi’s ... “they’re very fine people”

Perhaps you should actually put in the full quote, with full context. What a slimy little ()-weasel you exhibit yourself as with that attempt.

Every time I get fed up with Trumpistas hiding behind 'fake news' there is always some weasel-ass liberal who pulls the 'partial quote' out of context manuever just to show how ignorant that side is. Good for you 'menso'.

At least have the guts or balls to put up the full quote, with all the verbiage around it for context. Or play that slimy little weasel **** you put on display there. Your choice. Awesome job.

Odds are you dont have the chops or the stones to do the full quote with context thing.
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(09-02-2018 04:21 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 04:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Skinheads/Neo-Nazis (GOP) v FBI (Democrats)

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/...trak-train

A corrupt government agency is much scarier than some hairless white dudes with no power.

That's why we have a problem with the FBI at the moment.

Just an FYI... all government is corrupt. And this is what the radleft wants running every aspect of society.
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(09-02-2018 04:27 PM)Momus Wrote:  There’s no Democracrats supporting MS-13 or MS-13 members supporting Democrats; but there’s plenty of love between the white nationalists and the GOP. Just see Trump’s “there are good people on both sides” comments. Right-wingers cozy up to America’s adversaries, play footsie with racists and white nationalists, denigrate the free press, malign our judiciary, cast aspersions on our law enforcement, and work overtime to deny American citizens their right to vote. They are complete traitors to American ideals. They represent the worst in our society.

Apparently you don't watch the news -- even the Fake News.
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(09-02-2018 07:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 05:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 04:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Skinheads/Neo-Nazis (GOP) v FBI (Democrats)

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/...trak-train

https://csnbbs.com/thread-833895.html

It is perfectly acceptable to make the ridiculous assertion that Democrats support MS-13 but its off topic to assert the real connection between this President and the white supremacist movement.

This is unquestionably a conservatively moderated forum. Ridiculous.

This thread is about leftists and their support of MS-13. Wary discussing that instead of engaging in whataboutisms.
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