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RE: MS-13/Dems vs ICE/GOP
(09-02-2018 07:28 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 04:27 PM)Momus Wrote:  There’s no Democracrats supporting MS-13 or MS-13 members supporting Democrats; but there’s plenty of love between the white nationalists and the GOP. Just see Trump’s “there are good people on both sides” comments. Right-wingers cozy up to America’s adversaries, play footsie with racists and white nationalists, denigrate the free press, malign our judiciary, cast aspersions on our law enforcement, and work overtime to deny American citizens their right to vote. They are complete traitors to American ideals. They represent the worst in our society.

Apparently you don't watch the news -- even the Fake News.

Maybe his black bandana distorts his vision and hearing...
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RE: MS-13/Dems vs ICE/GOP
(09-02-2018 07:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 07:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 05:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 04:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Skinheads/Neo-Nazis (GOP) v FBI (Democrats)

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/...trak-train

https://csnbbs.com/thread-833895.html

It is perfectly acceptable to make the ridiculous assertion that Democrats support MS-13 but its off topic to assert the real connection between this President and the white supremacist movement.

This is unquestionably a conservatively moderated forum. Ridiculous.

This thread is about leftists and their support of MS-13. Wary discussing that instead of engaging in whataboutisms.

Democrats give zero support to gangs such as MS-13. The only people who believe otherwise are those who willingly believe the lies from the racist Cheeto-in-Chief.
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RE: MS-13/Dems vs ICE/GOP
(09-02-2018 08:42 PM)Momus Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 07:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 07:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 05:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 04:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Skinheads/Neo-Nazis (GOP) v FBI (Democrats)

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/...trak-train

https://csnbbs.com/thread-833895.html

It is perfectly acceptable to make the ridiculous assertion that Democrats support MS-13 but its off topic to assert the real connection between this President and the white supremacist movement.

This is unquestionably a conservatively moderated forum. Ridiculous.

This thread is about leftists and their support of MS-13. Wary discussing that instead of engaging in whataboutisms.

Democrats give zero support to gangs such as MS-13. The only people who believe otherwise are those who willingly believe the lies from the racist Cheeto-in-Chief.

Nancy Pelosi herself said they were "God's children" and had the "divinity spark" in response to Trump calling MS-13 animals.
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RE: MS-13/Dems vs ICE/GOP
(09-02-2018 08:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 08:42 PM)Momus Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 07:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 07:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 05:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  https://csnbbs.com/thread-833895.html

It is perfectly acceptable to make the ridiculous assertion that Democrats support MS-13 but its off topic to assert the real connection between this President and the white supremacist movement.

This is unquestionably a conservatively moderated forum. Ridiculous.

This thread is about leftists and their support of MS-13. Wary discussing that instead of engaging in whataboutisms.

Democrats give zero support to gangs such as MS-13. The only people who believe otherwise are those who willingly believe the lies from the racist Cheeto-in-Chief.

Nancy Pelosi herself said they were "God's children" and had the "divinity spark" in response to Trump calling MS-13 animals.

False. That’s what the “good people on both sides” president claimed, but it’s a lie. I’ll cut you some slack given that it is very difficult to keep up with all his lies.
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RE: MS-13/Dems vs ICE/GOP
(09-02-2018 08:59 PM)Momus Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 08:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 08:42 PM)Momus Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 07:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 07:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  It is perfectly acceptable to make the ridiculous assertion that Democrats support MS-13 but its off topic to assert the real connection between this President and the white supremacist movement.

This is unquestionably a conservatively moderated forum. Ridiculous.

This thread is about leftists and their support of MS-13. Wary discussing that instead of engaging in whataboutisms.

Democrats give zero support to gangs such as MS-13. The only people who believe otherwise are those who willingly believe the lies from the racist Cheeto-in-Chief.

Nancy Pelosi herself said they were "God's children" and had the "divinity spark" in response to Trump calling MS-13 animals.

False. That’s what the “good people on both sides” president claimed, but it’s a lie. I’ll cut you some slack given that it is very difficult to keep up with all his lies.

I will not cut you any slack because you are nothing but a leftist talking point.

Trump made his original animals comment in response to Sheriff Margaret Mims saying There could be an MS-13 member I know about—if they don't reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about it." in regards to Californi's law. Trump responded "You wouldn't believe how bad these people are. These aren't people, these are animals, and we're taking them out of the country."

In fact here's the transcript of the meeting between the President and the last true patriots and defenders of law and order in the People's Republic of California.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-sta...oundtable/

Quote:SHERIFF MIMS: Thank you, Mr. President. You know, sheriffs in California are now in an untenable position when it comes to trying to figure out — now, we have state law, we have federal laws, and here we are stuck in the middle. Sheriffs, especially, because most of us run our county jails.

When there became a legal challenge to the 48-hour holds for ICE, it was very frustrating for us. So what I did is I invited ICE to put their officers in my jails so they’re able to do their work. We didn’t have the staffing to be able to help figure out who they wanted to talk to or didn’t. I said, come on in, work with our people to keep our community safe. Two weeks later, Mr. President, Kate Steinle was murdered.

Now, I wasn’t the only sheriff to do that. Sheriff Youngblood did, Sheriff Christianson. And it was perfect — because we didn’t have to take our time, with our staff, to do anything. ICE was in there doing their work in a safe, controlled, environment. And then, the initiatives started happening — the TRUST Act, the TRUTH Act, and finally, SB 54, the Values Act. And that is causing us all kinds of turmoil.

So here we are, stuck in the middle, trying to decide. We have federal law, we have state law. And that’s why I welcomed Attorney General Sessions’s lawsuit, because that will provide us the clarity that we need and direction that we need. What do we do? Because here we are.

And I appreciated Mr. Homan and ICE. We had a great relationship; we still do. But now ICE is the only law enforcement agency that cannot use our databases to find the bad guys. They cannot come in and talk to people in our jail, unless they reach a certain threshold. They can’t do all kinds of things that other law enforcement agencies can do. And it’s really put us in a very bad position.

THE PRESIDENT: It’s a disgrace. Okay? It’s a disgrace.

SHERIFF MIMS: It’s a disgrace.

THE PRESIDENT: And we’re suing on that, and we’re working hard, and I think it will all come together, because people want it to come together. It’s so ridiculous. The concept that we’re even talking about is ridiculous. We’ll take care of it, Margaret. We’ll win.

SHERIFF MIMS: Thank you. There could be an MS-13 member I know about — if they don’t reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about it.

THE PRESIDENT: We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — and we’re stopping a lot of them — but we’re taking people out of the country. You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people. These are animals. And we’re taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that’s never happened before. And because of the weak laws, they come in fast, we get them, we release them, we get them again, we bring them out. It’s crazy.

The dumbest laws — as I said before, the dumbest laws on immigration in the world. So we’re going to take care of it, Margaret. We’ll get it done.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-sta...oundtable/
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Great. Thanks for quoting Trump’s comments prior to Pelosi making statements about undocumented immigrants. That has no impact on the lack of truth on his later comments, but I appreciate the effort.
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(09-02-2018 09:24 PM)Momus Wrote:  Great. Thanks for quoting Trump’s comments prior to Pelosi making statements about undocumented immigrants. That has no impact on the lack of truth on his later comments, but I appreciate the effort.

Coming from the guy that is whining elsewhere that the 'people didnt elect Trump', your whining about a 'diversion' is amazingly rich. But I appreciate the effort.
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RE: MS-13/Dems vs ICE/GOP
(09-02-2018 07:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 05:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 04:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Skinheads/Neo-Nazis (GOP) v FBI (Democrats)

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/...trak-train

https://csnbbs.com/thread-833895.html

It is perfectly acceptable to make the ridiculous assertion that Democrats support MS-13 but its off topic to assert the real connection between this President and the white supremacist movement.

This is unquestionably a conservatively moderated forum. Ridiculous.

The left-leaning members of the board are only wanted here to keep the right-wingers stirred up and coming back. Your actual thoughts and opinions aren’t wanted or valued.
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RE: MS-13/Dems vs ICE/GOP
(09-02-2018 09:29 PM)Momus Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 07:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 05:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 04:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Skinheads/Neo-Nazis (GOP) v FBI (Democrats)

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/...trak-train

https://csnbbs.com/thread-833895.html

It is perfectly acceptable to make the ridiculous assertion that Democrats support MS-13 but its off topic to assert the real connection between this President and the white supremacist movement.

This is unquestionably a conservatively moderated forum. Ridiculous.

The left-leaning members of the board are only wanted here to keep the right-wingers stirred up and coming back. Your actual thoughts and opinions aren’t wanted or valued.

They might be valued if they exceeded the cotton candy level garbage of stuff like "Trump wasnt elected by the people" and "Trump *may* be the third President impeached' --- just saying there my academic friend....

I forget though.... Who was it that said those?
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(09-02-2018 09:26 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 09:24 PM)Momus Wrote:  Great. Thanks for quoting Trump’s comments prior to Pelosi making statements about undocumented immigrants. That has no impact on the lack of truth on his later comments, but I appreciate the effort.

Coming from the guy that is whining elsewhere that the 'people didnt elect Trump', your whining about a 'diversion' is amazingly rich. But I appreciate the effort.

We’re so far into this thread and you don’t yet have a grip on it. Unsurprising. Being ignorant so rarely stops a right-winger from speaking as though they are expert.
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(09-02-2018 04:27 PM)Momus Wrote:  There’s no Democracrats supporting MS-13 or MS-13 members supporting Democrats; but there’s plenty of love between the white nationalists and the GOP. Just see Trump’s “there are good people on both sides” comments. Right-wingers cozy up to America’s adversaries, play footsie with racists and white nationalists, denigrate the free press, malign our judiciary, cast aspersions on our law enforcement, and work overtime to deny American citizens their right to vote. They are complete traitors to American ideals. They represent the worst in our society.

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(09-02-2018 05:32 PM)Momus Wrote:  The right-wing loves to bring up things like MS-13 when talking about undocumented workers because it gives their racist stances that thin veneer of legitimacy. Anyone with a working brain can see right through it.

What, or who, is an "undocumented worker"?!? I guess some under the table bartenders, or guys doing yard work off the books, kids running a lemonade stand, drug dealers perhaps?

Who else?
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(09-03-2018 05:25 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 05:32 PM)Momus Wrote:  The right-wing loves to bring up things like MS-13 when talking about undocumented workers because it gives their racist stances that thin veneer of legitimacy. Anyone with a working brain can see right through it.
What, or who, is an "undocumented worker"?!?

I think he meant, "illegal aliens."
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(09-02-2018 09:59 PM)Momus Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 09:26 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 09:24 PM)Momus Wrote:  Great. Thanks for quoting Trump’s comments prior to Pelosi making statements about undocumented immigrants. That has no impact on the lack of truth on his later comments, but I appreciate the effort.

Coming from the guy that is whining elsewhere that the 'people didnt elect Trump', your whining about a 'diversion' is amazingly rich. But I appreciate the effort.

We’re so far into this thread and you don’t yet have a grip on it. Unsurprising. Being ignorant so rarely stops a right-winger from speaking as though they are expert.

Being called 'ignorant' from a poster who makes a post saying 'Hillary won the popular vote' and thinks it matters somehow is even more so rich. Shall I send you to dictionary.com with the link to 'irony', or can you make it there all by yourself?
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(09-03-2018 09:08 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 09:59 PM)Momus Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 09:26 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-02-2018 09:24 PM)Momus Wrote:  Great. Thanks for quoting Trump’s comments prior to Pelosi making statements about undocumented immigrants. That has no impact on the lack of truth on his later comments, but I appreciate the effort.

Coming from the guy that is whining elsewhere that the 'people didnt elect Trump', your whining about a 'diversion' is amazingly rich. But I appreciate the effort.

We’re so far into this thread and you don’t yet have a grip on it. Unsurprising. Being ignorant so rarely stops a right-winger from speaking as though they are expert.

Being called 'ignorant' from a poster who makes a post saying 'Hillary won the popular vote' and thinks it matters somehow is even more so rich. Shall I send you to dictionary.com with the link to 'irony', or can you make it there all by yourself?

My thoughts exactly.
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