(05-10-2018 07:14 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(05-06-2018 10:26 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  OFF Topic, really ... nothing to do with the AAC.

Perhaps the thread should have been locked, but moving it here seems like ulterior motives by some one.

Especially when we have an entire thread about Memphis, by Memphis and only Memphis recruiting on the conference board with the exact same subject in our off-season thread.

The mod work on this board has gone a askewer. .

Well, it looks like we get to play in Las Vegas.

Quote:The Continental Tire Las Vegas Holiday Invitational is pleased to announce the tournament field for this year's event, to be held November 22-23, 2018 at the beautiful Orleans Arena in Las Vegas.

This season's stellar field includes: University of Nevada, University of Tulsa, University of Massachusetts, and Southern Illinois University.

...
Tulsa returns eight letterwinners, including three starters, from last year's team that registered 19 wins and finished fourth in the American Athletic Conference. Fifth-year head coach Frank Haith's squad is led by senior point guard Sterling Taplin, who averaged 11.8 points and 4.4 assists per game while setting career highs in nearly every offensive category a season ago. The returning cast also includes 6-foot-8 junior forward Martins Igbanu (9.4 ppg/5.1 rpg) and 6-foot-5 senior wing DaQuan Jeffries (9.7 ppg/4.9 rpg). In all, the team brings back 56.3-percent of its offense from the 2017-18 campaign and the Golden Hurricane will receive a boost from 6-foot-7 sophomore forward Jeriah Horne, who sat out last season after transferring into the program.

..
UMass and Head Coach Matt McCall return seven players and add four transfers and three freshmen to a squad that went 13-20 during a transition year a season ago. The Minutemen return the Atlantic 10 Most Improved Player in guard Luwane Pipkins, who averaged over 20 points per game to join the likes of former UMass stars Julius Erving and Marcus Camby while breaking the single-season three-point record and single-game scoring record with 44 points. Carl Pierre joins Pipkins as a returning starter who averaged over 12 points per game during his freshman campaign, reaching double-figures in the scoring column in 23 games on the year and in 17 of the last 19 games of the season.

FS1 presents coverage of four 2018 Continental Tire Las Vegas Holiday Invitational games played at Orleans Arena, televising two opening-round games on Thursday, Nov. 22, and the championship and consolation games on Friday, Nov. 23.

Each team will play four games in the Invitational – the first two at on-campus sites and the final two rounds at the Orleans Arena November 22-23. Hosting more than 200 events each year, the Orleans Arena is located just west of the Las Vegas strip and was recently named the #1 mid-size arena in the USA by Venues Today magazine.

(07-11-2018 02:21 PM)Steve1981 Wrote:  

(05-10-2018 07:14 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(05-06-2018 10:26 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  OFF Topic, really ... nothing to do with the AAC.

Perhaps the thread should have been locked, but moving it here seems like ulterior motives by some one.

Especially when we have an entire thread about Memphis, by Memphis and only Memphis recruiting on the conference board with the exact same subject in our off-season thread.

The mod work on this board has gone a askewer. .

Well, it looks like we get to play in Las Vegas.

Quote:The Continental Tire Las Vegas Holiday Invitational is pleased to announce the tournament field for this year's event, to be held November 22-23, 2018 at the beautiful Orleans Arena in Las Vegas.

This season's stellar field includes: University of Nevada, University of Tulsa, University of Massachusetts, and Southern Illinois University.

...
Tulsa returns eight letterwinners, including three starters, from last year's team that registered 19 wins and finished fourth in the American Athletic Conference. Fifth-year head coach Frank Haith's squad is led by senior point guard Sterling Taplin, who averaged 11.8 points and 4.4 assists per game while setting career highs in nearly every offensive category a season ago. The returning cast also includes 6-foot-8 junior forward Martins Igbanu (9.4 ppg/5.1 rpg) and 6-foot-5 senior wing DaQuan Jeffries (9.7 ppg/4.9 rpg). In all, the team brings back 56.3-percent of its offense from the 2017-18 campaign and the Golden Hurricane will receive a boost from 6-foot-7 sophomore forward Jeriah Horne, who sat out last season after transferring into the program.

..
UMass and Head Coach Matt McCall return seven players and add four transfers and three freshmen to a squad that went 13-20 during a transition year a season ago. The Minutemen return the Atlantic 10 Most Improved Player in guard Luwane Pipkins, who averaged over 20 points per game to join the likes of former UMass stars Julius Erving and Marcus Camby while breaking the single-season three-point record and single-game scoring record with 44 points. Carl Pierre joins Pipkins as a returning starter who averaged over 12 points per game during his freshman campaign, reaching double-figures in the scoring column in 23 games on the year and in 17 of the last 19 games of the season.

FS1 presents coverage of four 2018 Continental Tire Las Vegas Holiday Invitational games played at Orleans Arena, televising two opening-round games on Thursday, Nov. 22, and the championship and consolation games on Friday, Nov. 23.

Each team will play four games in the Invitational – the first two at on-campus sites and the final two rounds at the Orleans Arena November 22-23. Hosting more than 200 events each year, the Orleans Arena is located just west of the Las Vegas strip and was recently named the #1 mid-size arena in the USA by Venues Today magazine.

Yes we will. I hope you all are better this year, that field would traditionally be pretty solid. I was surprised UMass was like 240 in RPI. I would expect a 100ish at least. Nevada should be very good, Tulsa and the Saluki's were solid. If UMass gets up to par that could be some good tier 1 and 2 games to build resumes with.

We'll see, Matt McCall is pretty intense and a good x's & o's guy. We had massive transfers after DK was fired and a walk on had to play as a starter. Notice 7 players and not 7 starters, this includes a 3rd string QB Randall West, who played some games at the end of the season. Think we had 5 or 6 players left at the time.

Hopefully the transfers will have all the rust off and you never know about freshmen until they play under the bright lights. We have 3 freshmen coming in with the 4 transfers that sat out. Think we'll be pretty good. Before some injuries and Rashaan Holloway missing the second semester, we beat a pretty good Providence team

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Cryptic tweet, but interesting nonetheless.


https://twitter.com/howardherman/status/...0107151363

Jumping in here to comment on something I read pages ago, along the lines of "you would never see UMass on TV at a sports bar in Boston"

Well, I actually got UMass football turned on at a sports bar in Boston last season...I think it was the Tennessee game? It was one of the ones that was close enough where multiple people walking by said "Oh hey, UMass! How they doing?" and a couple of people actually positioned themselves at the bar or at tables near enough to that specific TV that they could watch along with it.

UMass looked really good in their opener. Schedule is very favorable. I see 8-9 wins.

(07-07-2018 09:14 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(07-06-2018 11:07 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 08:42 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 07:10 PM)Steve1981 Wrote:  In about two years, you see a nice bump up, but exactly were is Tulsa?

Already in the aac, way in front of UMass in tournament appearences and bowl games.

but im pretty sure more people connect umass with basketball than tulsa tho

also you guys are not flying ahead of umass in tourny appearances

16 vs 8 isn't that crazy...imo

Perhaps in New England. But most people never think of Umass. Doubling someone up is not flying ahead? Since when? Not to mention almost all of those come from one coach for UMass and Tulsa is multiple coaches and decades. Way more conference titles, multiple ny day games, and a college world series.

Not sure where you're trying to go with this pride. The comparisons aren't close unless it's the distance to Connecticut.

Tulsa is a private school of 4,000 students in *** **** Oklahoma. UMass is a highly respected flagship university in the Boston media market. UMass would be way more valuable to the AAC brand long term.

(08-31-2018 05:10 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(07-07-2018 09:14 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(07-06-2018 11:07 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 08:42 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 07:10 PM)Steve1981 Wrote:  In about two years, you see a nice bump up, but exactly were is Tulsa?

Already in the aac, way in front of UMass in tournament appearences and bowl games.

but im pretty sure more people connect umass with basketball than tulsa tho

also you guys are not flying ahead of umass in tourny appearances

16 vs 8 isn't that crazy...imo

Perhaps in New England. But most people never think of Umass. Doubling someone up is not flying ahead? Since when? Not to mention almost all of those come from one coach for UMass and Tulsa is multiple coaches and decades. Way more conference titles, multiple ny day games, and a college world series.

Not sure where you're trying to go with this pride. The comparisons aren't close unless it's the distance to Connecticut.

Tulsa is a private school of 4,000 students in *** **** Oklahoma. UMass is a highly respected flagship university in the Boston media market where it is behind Celtics, Bruins, Patriots, red soxs, Boston college, Harvard, MIT, Providence, in importance, history, tradition, viewers, fans and educational prestige.UMass would be way more valuable to the AAC brand long term.

FIFY


Tulsa is also a top 50 market, not **** ****, which you spelled wrong by the way.

Let me know when UMass manages a bowl game, or another tournament appearence. Or you know success of any kind.

(08-31-2018 10:46 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 05:10 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(07-07-2018 09:14 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(07-06-2018 11:07 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 08:42 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Already in the aac, way in front of UMass in tournament appearences and bowl games.

but im pretty sure more people connect umass with basketball than tulsa tho

also you guys are not flying ahead of umass in tourny appearances

16 vs 8 isn't that crazy...imo

Perhaps in New England. But most people never think of Umass. Doubling someone up is not flying ahead? Since when? Not to mention almost all of those come from one coach for UMass and Tulsa is multiple coaches and decades. Way more conference titles, multiple ny day games, and a college world series.

Not sure where you're trying to go with this pride. The comparisons aren't close unless it's the distance to Connecticut.

Tulsa is a private school of 4,000 students in *** **** Oklahoma. UMass is a highly respected flagship university in the Boston media market where it is behind Celtics, Bruins, Patriots, red soxs, Boston college, Harvard, MIT, Providence, in importance, history, tradition, viewers, fans and educational prestige.UMass would be way more valuable to the AAC brand long term.

FIFY


Tulsa is also a top 50 market, not **** ****, which you spelled wrong by the way.

Let me know when UMass manages a bowl game, or another tournament appearence. Or you know success of any kind.

I didn't spell God or damn wrong, so you can take back those points you were so eager to throw on the board.

I don't care what Tulsa did 50 years ago. The fact of the matter is, in the modern landscape of college sports, UMass has the much higher ceiling. And this isn't coming from a UMass grad, fan, or someone who particularly likes the state of Massachusetts all that much. But the flagship school in the most economically and culturally important state in New England does a HELL of a lot more than a tiny private school in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

(08-31-2018 11:19 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 10:46 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 05:10 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(07-07-2018 09:14 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(07-06-2018 11:07 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  but im pretty sure more people connect umass with basketball than tulsa tho

also you guys are not flying ahead of umass in tourny appearances

16 vs 8 isn't that crazy...imo

Perhaps in New England. But most people never think of Umass. Doubling someone up is not flying ahead? Since when? Not to mention almost all of those come from one coach for UMass and Tulsa is multiple coaches and decades. Way more conference titles, multiple ny day games, and a college world series.

Not sure where you're trying to go with this pride. The comparisons aren't close unless it's the distance to Connecticut.

Tulsa is a private school of 4,000 students in *** **** Oklahoma. UMass is a highly respected flagship university in the Boston media market where it is behind Celtics, Bruins, Patriots, red soxs, Boston college, Harvard, MIT, Providence, in importance, history, tradition, viewers, fans and educational prestige.UMass would be way more valuable to the AAC brand long term.

FIFY


Tulsa is also a top 50 market, not **** ****, which you spelled wrong by the way.

Let me know when UMass manages a bowl game, or another tournament appearence. Or you know success of any kind.

I didn't spell God or damn wrong, so you can take back those points you were so eager to throw on the board.

I don't care what Tulsa did 50 years ago. The fact of the matter is, in the modern landscape of college sports, UMass has the much higher ceiling. And this isn't coming from a UMass grad, fan, or someone who particularly likes the state of Massachusetts all that much. But the flagship school in the most economically and culturally important state in New England does a HELL of a lot more than a tiny private school in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Bad grapes I guess.

Last 10 years in football:

UMass two winning seasons (7-5, 6-5) almost half of those years they competed in FCS, including for their two winning seasons.

Tulsa has three ten win seasons in the same time period.


Basketball since Cal left:

UMass:
Six 20+ win seasons (two of 25+)
3 Tournament invites (zero wins)
4 NIT invites (one final, one semi-final)
Ten losing seasons and two .500 records (5 losing seasons in last 10, including 3 straight years currently)

Tulsa:
Thirteen 20+ win seasons (five of 25+)
7 Tournament invites (seven total wins)
4 NIT invites (one championship), CBI championship
Four losing seasons (Only one in the last twelve years)

So take your damn 50 years off the board, because if we go back that far Tulsa will really be kicking their ass.



If you didn't know, Oklahoma is the Almighty's. So it's God's damned Oklahoma.



What good is being a flagship in a tiny ass state where you are the fifth or sixth best educational choice in the state and 20th in a New England? What good is "being in" Boston when at best you are the eigth or ninth most popular team and have never consitantly won in any sport? Is 2.5 million extra people enough to make up four or five spots in the pecking order?

Higher ceiling? I would say that UMass has hit theirs already. Meanwhile that little private school in God's country has been playing with the big boys and winning since the 1890s.

Night sourness.

Rice now is beating Houston that's sad

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(08-30-2018 10:55 PM)McKinney Wrote:  Cryptic tweet, but interesting nonetheless.


https://twitter.com/howardherman/status/...0107151363

https://www.berkshireeagle.com/stories/h...-it,549284

Quote:

Quote:EAST HARTFORD, Conn — The question is asked frequently: Will the University of Massachusetts football team find a conference home in order to take advantage of bowl selection and more media dollars?

If anyone is looking at the major Division I-FBS conference with a Northeastern footprint, the answer is no.

"In terms of expansion, I don't think there's any reason to think about it," American Athletic Conference commissioner Mike Aresco said.

UMass P6 application:


_________ Accepted

____X_Denied






But after Temple's play last Saturday I see Grape's interest in getting them an invite.

Basketball is horrible, but hockey as been number #1 and sitting at #2 in the country.

Tickets for sold out (8,500) for hockey game tickets on the secondary market.



Win winning, we have a HUGE bandwagon! (-:

(08-31-2018 11:19 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 10:46 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 05:10 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(07-07-2018 09:14 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(07-06-2018 11:07 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  but im pretty sure more people connect umass with basketball than tulsa tho

also you guys are not flying ahead of umass in tourny appearances

16 vs 8 isn't that crazy...imo

Perhaps in New England. But most people never think of Umass. Doubling someone up is not flying ahead? Since when? Not to mention almost all of those come from one coach for UMass and Tulsa is multiple coaches and decades. Way more conference titles, multiple ny day games, and a college world series.

Not sure where you're trying to go with this pride. The comparisons aren't close unless it's the distance to Connecticut.

Tulsa is a private school of 4,000 students in *** **** Oklahoma. UMass is a highly respected flagship university in the Boston media market where it is behind Celtics, Bruins, Patriots, red soxs, Boston college, Harvard, MIT, Providence, in importance, history, tradition, viewers, fans and educational prestige.[/b]UMass would be way more valuable to the AAC brand long term.

FIFY


Tulsa is also a top 50 market, not **** ****, which you spelled wrong by the way.

Let me know when UMass manages a bowl game, or another tournament appearence. Or you know success of any kind.

I didn't spell God or damn wrong, so you can take back those points you were so eager to throw on the board.

I don't care what Tulsa did 50 years ago. The fact of the matter is, in the modern landscape of college sports, UMass has the much higher ceiling. And this isn't coming from a UMass grad, fan, or someone who particularly likes the state of Massachusetts all that much. But the flagship school in the most economically and culturally important state in New England does a HELL of a lot more than a tiny private school in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

You're right you could not have been more right

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(02-11-2019 11:03 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 11:19 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 10:46 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 05:10 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(07-07-2018 09:14 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Perhaps in New England. But most people never think of Umass. Doubling someone up is not flying ahead? Since when? Not to mention almost all of those come from one coach for UMass and Tulsa is multiple coaches and decades. Way more conference titles, multiple ny day games, and a college world series.

Not sure where you're trying to go with this pride. The comparisons aren't close unless it's the distance to Connecticut.

Tulsa is a private school of 4,000 students in *** **** Oklahoma. UMass is a highly respected flagship university in the Boston media market where it is behind Celtics, Bruins, Patriots, red soxs, Boston college, Harvard, MIT, Providence, in importance, history, tradition, viewers, fans and educational prestige.[/b]UMass would be way more valuable to the AAC brand long term.

FIFY


Tulsa is also a top 50 market, not **** ****, which you spelled wrong by the way.

Let me know when UMass manages a bowl game, or another tournament appearence. Or you know success of any kind.

I didn't spell God or damn wrong, so you can take back those points you were so eager to throw on the board.

I don't care what Tulsa did 50 years ago. The fact of the matter is, in the modern landscape of college sports, UMass has the much higher ceiling. And this isn't coming from a UMass grad, fan, or someone who particularly likes the state of Massachusetts all that much. But the flagship school in the most economically and culturally important state in New England does a HELL of a lot more than a tiny private school in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

You're right you could not have been more right

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Stookey with the shade on Tulsa lol.

(02-11-2019 10:34 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-11-2019 11:03 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 11:19 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 10:46 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 05:10 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  Tulsa is a private school of 4,000 students in *** **** Oklahoma. UMass is a highly respected flagship university in the Boston media market where it is behind Celtics, Bruins, Patriots, red soxs, Boston college, Harvard, MIT, Providence, in importance, history, tradition, viewers, fans and educational prestige.[/b]UMass would be way more valuable to the AAC brand long term.

FIFY


Tulsa is also a top 50 market, not **** ****, which you spelled wrong by the way.

Let me know when UMass manages a bowl game, or another tournament appearence. Or you know success of any kind.

I didn't spell God or damn wrong, so you can take back those points you were so eager to throw on the board.

I don't care what Tulsa did 50 years ago. The fact of the matter is, in the modern landscape of college sports, UMass has the much higher ceiling. And this isn't coming from a UMass grad, fan, or someone who particularly likes the state of Massachusetts all that much. But the flagship school in the most economically and culturally important state in New England does a HELL of a lot more than a tiny private school in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

You're right you could not have been more right

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Stookey with the shade on Tulsa lol.

I'm shocked he know who Tulsa is. Also surprised he found his way over here to OT. Wonder if he got lost looking for the bathroom.

UMass should have taken the MAC all sports invite a few years back...

(02-12-2019 06:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  UMass should have taken the MAC all sports invite a few years back...

I wouldn't want to play in the MAC either...I don't blame them one bit.

(02-12-2019 06:20 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-11-2019 10:34 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-11-2019 11:03 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 11:19 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 10:46 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  FIFY


Tulsa is also a top 50 market, not **** ****, which you spelled wrong by the way.

Let me know when UMass manages a bowl game, or another tournament appearence. Or you know success of any kind.

I didn't spell God or damn wrong, so you can take back those points you were so eager to throw on the board.

I don't care what Tulsa did 50 years ago. The fact of the matter is, in the modern landscape of college sports, UMass has the much higher ceiling. And this isn't coming from a UMass grad, fan, or someone who particularly likes the state of Massachusetts all that much. But the flagship school in the most economically and culturally important state in New England does a HELL of a lot more than a tiny private school in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

You're right you could not have been more right

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Stookey with the shade on Tulsa lol.

I'm shocked he know who Tulsa is. Also surprised he found his way over here to OT. Wonder if he got lost looking for the bathroom.

Everyone needs to stop hating on Stookey! UCONN doesn't have a lot of fans around these parts as it is.

(02-12-2019 06:20 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(02-11-2019 10:34 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-11-2019 11:03 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 11:19 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 10:46 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  FIFY


Tulsa is also a top 50 market, not **** ****, which you spelled wrong by the way.

Let me know when UMass manages a bowl game, or another tournament appearence. Or you know success of any kind.

I didn't spell God or damn wrong, so you can take back those points you were so eager to throw on the board.

I don't care what Tulsa did 50 years ago. The fact of the matter is, in the modern landscape of college sports, UMass has the much higher ceiling. And this isn't coming from a UMass grad, fan, or someone who particularly likes the state of Massachusetts all that much. But the flagship school in the most economically and culturally important state in New England does a HELL of a lot more than a tiny private school in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

You're right you could not have been more right

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Stookey with the shade on Tulsa lol.

I'm shocked he know who Tulsa is. Also surprised he found his way over here to OT. Wonder if he got lost looking for the bathroom.

Did you say bathrooms?

Quote:UMass Director of Athletics Ryan Bamford released the first renderings of the $18 million McGuirk Alumni Stadium improvement project that will see a new scoreboard, new permanent bathrooms, and an indoor practice facility installed before the 2019 season.

Austin Urkiel for the screenshots on the tweet and the above quote from Mike Traini
Article

Also included in the renderings is the new south end pavilion with the video board. Other improvements will happen in 2020 for the 18M including ADA access and handrails and new concessions and a few other improvements. There will eventually be 4 price points for season ticket holders.

Renderings