(08-22-2018 05:37 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Reality of it is that it ends up Venezuela


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As is pointed out in the article. People like Stalin and Pol Pot find their way to the top.

Ocasio doesn't believe in a free press, trying to ban them from her public meeting.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/...ess-219376

(08-22-2018 06:46 PM)bullet Wrote:  Ocasio doesn't believe in a free press, trying to ban them from her public meeting.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/...ess-219376

(08-22-2018 06:05 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:32 PM)Kronke Wrote:  "Hate crime" probably isn't the right term, but anastasia cortez and bernie should be held in the same regard as richard spencer. Socialism/communism, just like fascism/nazism, is responsible for tens of millions of deaths in the 20th century.

XACLY!

that's about as much "hate" as one needs to define.....

the OP's posit is valid....

Again show us a truly democratic socialist country that has killed millions of people. Again a true example and not an example like North Korea with a name like Democratic People's Republic of Korea

(08-22-2018 06:48 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 06:05 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:32 PM)Kronke Wrote:  "Hate crime" probably isn't the right term, but anastasia cortez and bernie should be held in the same regard as richard spencer. Socialism/communism, just like fascism/nazism, is responsible for tens of millions of deaths in the 20th century.

XACLY!

that's about as much "hate" as one needs to define.....

the OP's posit is valid....

Again show us a truly democratic socialist country that has killed millions of people. Again a true example and not an example like North Korea with a name like Democratic People's Republic of Korea

a democratic socialist is a figment of your imagination.....

it's a contradiction of terms.....

did yo' teachers not learns ya anything....

good god from gulfport.....

(08-22-2018 06:56 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 06:48 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 06:05 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:32 PM)Kronke Wrote:  "Hate crime" probably isn't the right term, but anastasia cortez and bernie should be held in the same regard as richard spencer. Socialism/communism, just like fascism/nazism, is responsible for tens of millions of deaths in the 20th century.

XACLY!

that's about as much "hate" as one needs to define.....

the OP's posit is valid....

Again show us a truly democratic socialist country that has killed millions of people. Again a true example and not an example like North Korea with a name like Democratic People's Republic of Korea

a democratic socialist is a figment of your imagination.....

it's a contradiction of terms.....

did yo' teachers not learns ya anything....

good god from gulfport.....

Yes they did but apparently you need some tutoring because your understanding of socialism is stuck in the Cold War.

(08-22-2018 08:22 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 06:56 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 06:48 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 06:05 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

XACLY!

that's about as much "hate" as one needs to define.....

the OP's posit is valid....

Again show us a truly democratic socialist country that has killed millions of people. Again a true example and not an example like North Korea with a name like Democratic People's Republic of Korea

a democratic socialist is a figment of your imagination.....

it's a contradiction of terms.....

did yo' teachers not learns ya anything....

good god from gulfport.....

Yes they did but apparently you need some tutoring because your understanding of socialism is stuck in the Cold War.

if you go back in the thread, I was referencing VZ....Kap simply piled on to tie it all in...

please define socialism and it's long term benefits for us unedjamacated folk down south......

I'm fairly certain we're all waiting to hear this one.....

(08-22-2018 08:22 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 06:56 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 06:48 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 06:05 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

XACLY!

that's about as much "hate" as one needs to define.....

the OP's posit is valid....

Again show us a truly democratic socialist country that has killed millions of people. Again a true example and not an example like North Korea with a name like Democratic People's Republic of Korea

a democratic socialist is a figment of your imagination.....

it's a contradiction of terms.....

did yo' teachers not learns ya anything....

good god from gulfport.....

Yes they did but apparently you need some tutoring because your understanding of socialism is stuck in the Cold War.

And your belief in it ignores things like the Cold War.

(08-22-2018 08:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 08:22 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 06:56 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 06:48 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 06:05 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  XACLY!

that's about as much "hate" as one needs to define.....

the OP's posit is valid....

Again show us a truly democratic socialist country that has killed millions of people. Again a true example and not an example like North Korea with a name like Democratic People's Republic of Korea

a democratic socialist is a figment of your imagination.....

it's a contradiction of terms.....

did yo' teachers not learns ya anything....

good god from gulfport.....

Yes they did but apparently you need some tutoring because your understanding of socialism is stuck in the Cold War.

if you go back in the thread, I was referencing VZ....Kap simply piled on to tie it all in...

so please define socialism and it's long term benefits for us unedjamacated folk down south......

I'm fairly certain we're all waiting this one.....

Lmao. Dumb democrats backing socialism, bad hombres, higher taxes and the police state. The magnificent orange one has made the cucks show their hand.

The battle lines are drawn. Let the games begin

I'm gonna be nice and give you another hint.....

even China and the former Soviet Union learned their lesson the hard way once the USD became the leader in global commerce while population/tech continued to expand....

check out China now.....they can have 2 kids/fam now......

I wonder why they made that change (no I don't)

Here's the other thing socialism lovers ignore, Sweden has less than 10 million people and a historically homogeneous society,which is still 88% native born. Norway only has about 5 million residents and is even more homogeneous.

Socialism has a much better chance of working among smaller groups that have a strong bond through ethnic and social similarities. An example would be small town America where, if someone is having troubles or is sick, it's common for your neighbor to cut your grass for you of cook you a dinner and bring it over to help you out. In farm communities if a farmer breaks his leg the other farmers will come and harvest his crops for him so he doesn't lose them.

Big city, diverse groups (liberal havens) are the exact opposite of this mindset, but they are the ones that think socialism is a great idea. Really makes you wonder why, doesn't it? It's because they are interested in what they will get, not what they have to give. That's why socialism always has, and always will, fail when applied on a large scale to a diverse population.

(08-22-2018 08:34 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  I'm gonna be nice and give you another hint.....

even China and the former Soviet Union learned their lesson the hard way once the USD became the leader in global commerce while population/tech continued to expand....

check out China now.....they can have 2 kids/fam now......

I wonder why they made that change (no I don't)

There are always gonna be two types of socialist countries: the despotic and the conquered. These are the historic outcomes, always.

(08-22-2018 08:38 PM)banker Wrote:  Here's the other thing socialism lovers ignore, Sweden has less than 10 million people and a historically homogeneous society,which is still 88% native born. Norway only has about 5 million residents and is even more homogeneous.

Socialism has a much better chance of working among smaller groups that have a strong bond through ethnic and social similarities. An example would be small town America where, if someone is having troubles or is sick, it's common for your neighbor to cut your grass for you of cook you a dinner and bring it over to help you out. In farm communities if a farmer breaks his leg the other farmers will come and harvest his crops for him so he doesn't lose them.

Big city, diverse groups (liberal havens) are the exact opposite of this mindset, but they are the ones that think socialism is a great idea. Really makes you wonder why, doesn't it? It's because they are interested in what they will get, not what they have to give. That's why socialism always has, and always will, fail when applied on a large scale to a diverse population.

Nominate for post of the decade

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(08-22-2018 05:26 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:20 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:13 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:10 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.newcriterion.com/blogs/dispa...crime-9746

"...After all, the evidence for its malignant effects is obvious to anyone with sufficient curiosity to look at the historical record. The socialist movement has been responsible for the murder, imprisonment, and torture of many millions, and perhaps hundreds of millions, of innocent people during its heyday in the twentieth century. That history of murder and tyranny continues on a smaller scale today in the handful of countries living under the misfortune of socialism—for example, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, and (more recently) Venezuela.

How do socialists escape the indictment that, in view of the historical record, they are purveyors of tyranny and mass murder?...


To return to the question posed at the beginning: is socialism a hate crime? The record speaks for itself: socialism is a hate crime, a doctrine of tyranny, mass murder, and human suffering on a vast scale. What should be done about it is a different matter. The important thing is to identify the crime."

why only point out the socialist countries with dictators and not the ones with democratic governments?

The examples of "successful" socialists countries is always a slide scale with alt-leftists. It's always only a matter of time.

We don't hear much about Sweden anymore. Suddenly it's Norway that is all the rage.

In what way is Sweden bad?

Sweden is not a socialist country.

(08-22-2018 08:39 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 08:34 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  I'm gonna be nice and give you another hint.....

even China and the former Soviet Union learned their lesson the hard way once the USD became the leader in global commerce while population/tech continued to expand....

check out China now.....they can have 2 kids/fam now......

I wonder why they made that change (no I don't)

There are always gonna be two types of socialist countries: the despotic and the conquered. These are the historic outcomes, always.

#triedandtrue

it's amazing that anyone in today's system of commerce would argue otherwise.....

oh yeah, we live amongst da lmnop fa(i)ries.....

(08-22-2018 08:38 PM)banker Wrote:  Here's the other thing socialism lovers ignore, Sweden has less than 10 million people and a historically homogeneous society,which is still 88% native born. Norway only has about 5 million residents and is even more homogeneous.

Socialism has a much better chance of working among smaller groups that have a strong bond through ethnic and social similarities. An example would be small town America where, if someone is having troubles or is sick, it's common for your neighbor to cut your grass for you of cook you a dinner and bring it over to help you out. In farm communities if a farmer breaks his leg the other farmers will come and harvest his crops for him so he doesn't lose them.

Big city, diverse groups (liberal havens) are the exact opposite of this mindset, but they are the ones that think socialism is a great idea. Really makes you wonder why, doesn't it? It's because they are interested in what they will get, not what they have to give. That's why socialism always has, and always will, fail when applied on a large scale to a diverse population.

it's always been a population growth fail.....LBJ knew that too.....

that's XACLY! why he's the worst of the worst of the worst....

I shite you not....I'm going to audit an econ class this year for shites and gigs.....

(08-22-2018 08:54 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 08:38 PM)banker Wrote:  Here's the other thing socialism lovers ignore, Sweden has less than 10 million people and a historically homogeneous society,which is still 88% native born. Norway only has about 5 million residents and is even more homogeneous.

Socialism has a much better chance of working among smaller groups that have a strong bond through ethnic and social similarities. An example would be small town America where, if someone is having troubles or is sick, it's common for your neighbor to cut your grass for you of cook you a dinner and bring it over to help you out. In farm communities if a farmer breaks his leg the other farmers will come and harvest his crops for him so he doesn't lose them.

Big city, diverse groups (liberal havens) are the exact opposite of this mindset, but they are the ones that think socialism is a great idea. Really makes you wonder why, doesn't it? It's because they are interested in what they will get, not what they have to give. That's why socialism always has, and always will, fail when applied on a large scale to a diverse population.

it's always been a population growth fail.....LBJ knew that too.....

that's XACLY! why he's the worst of the worst of the worst....

I shite you not....I'm going to audit an econ class this year for shites and gigs.....

The mixing of economic and political terms has been interesting. Fascism is now used to mean tyrannical. Socialism now means egalitarian with free shite.

It's ridiculous and stupid

(08-22-2018 09:05 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 08:54 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 08:38 PM)banker Wrote:  Here's the other thing socialism lovers ignore, Sweden has less than 10 million people and a historically homogeneous society,which is still 88% native born. Norway only has about 5 million residents and is even more homogeneous.

Socialism has a much better chance of working among smaller groups that have a strong bond through ethnic and social similarities. An example would be small town America where, if someone is having troubles or is sick, it's common for your neighbor to cut your grass for you of cook you a dinner and bring it over to help you out. In farm communities if a farmer breaks his leg the other farmers will come and harvest his crops for him so he doesn't lose them.

Big city, diverse groups (liberal havens) are the exact opposite of this mindset, but they are the ones that think socialism is a great idea. Really makes you wonder why, doesn't it? It's because they are interested in what they will get, not what they have to give. That's why socialism always has, and always will, fail when applied on a large scale to a diverse population.

it's always been a population growth fail.....LBJ knew that too.....

that's XACLY! why he's the worst of the worst of the worst....

I shite you not....I'm going to audit an econ class this year for shites and gigs.....

The mixing of economic and political terms has been interesting. Fascism is now used to mean tyrannical. Socialism now means egalitarian with free shite.

It's ridiculous and stupid

it's pure irony....

(08-22-2018 06:32 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 06:22 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:25 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:22 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-22-2018 05:14 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Because it doesn’t fit any criteria of a “hate crime”.

you're right....neglecting economic responsibility to the point where a roll of toilet paper costs 23 bucks causing a mass exodus so people can afford to wipe their arse is downright saintly....

/sarc

I’m not arguing that, I’m saying socialism it doesn’t fit the criteria of a hate crime. Stink, reply to what I actually post, not what you wish I would post.

How would you know? Have you lived in a successful socialist country? So, murdering millions because of your rank ideology isn't by any criteria a hate crime?

No, it isn’t, not inherently. Of course socialist governments took part in hate crimes, but unlike white nationalism, the hate crime aspect of the ideology isn’t inherent to it.

in practice it is. it's what cha make of it. stop defending socialism. i think socialism sounds real neat but it doesn't work. dare to dream, at your own peril

(08-22-2018 06:48 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Again show us a truly democratic socialist country that has killed millions of people. Again a true example and not an example like North Korea with a name like Democratic People's Republic of Korea

Easy, this one.

The Nazi's.

National Socialists.

Who do I send the bill to for services rendered ?