(08-07-2018 10:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

LOL, even red versus blue, perfect.

(08-07-2018 10:10 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:51 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Translation: “if we’re 50-49 in a 66-34 district... I feel pretty good about taking back the House in 2018.”

More like a 53-42 district. But point taken... sort of.

(08-07-2018 09:53 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  GOP had a very low turnout. Kind of like when an SEC plays their B squad against a 1-AA team and still wins by 10.

Is that really what happened in OH-12, though?

The district broke 66-29 in 2016 for Frank Tiberi. Its a more traditional, Rockefeller republican district... John Kasich once represented this district. Trump’s Republican Party is consistently underperforming in country club suburban districts that once broke heavily for Republicans.

(08-07-2018 09:48 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:46 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  Oh, and BTW - EVERY SINGLE candidate Trump endorsed has won. EVERY SINGLE candidate horse face endorsed LOST!

I’ve endorsed Steve Cohen in the Tennessee for the past 2 election cycles. Im also batting 100%.

(08-07-2018 10:23 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:10 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:51 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Translation: “if we’re 50-49 in a 66-34 district... I feel pretty good about taking back the House in 2018.”

More like a 53-42 district. But point taken... sort of.

(08-07-2018 09:53 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  GOP had a very low turnout. Kind of like when an SEC plays their B squad against a 1-AA team and still wins by 10.

Is that really what happened in OH-12, though?

The district broke 66-29 in 2016 for Frank Tiberi. Its a more traditional, Rockefeller republican district... John Kasich once represented this district. Trump’s Republican Party is consistently underperforming in country club suburban districts that once broke heavily for Republicans.

In other words, when Trump is underperforming, he's still winning.

The blue check mark conspiracy theorists are already conjuring up a new one.

(08-07-2018 09:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:11 PM)Kronke Wrote:  The madman sweeps in last minute, and puts Balderson over the top! Such instincts! MUCH WINNING!

MOAR RALLIES

Live from the Whitehouse

Freaking awesome.

For 70+ the man can dance!

(08-07-2018 10:23 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:10 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:51 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Translation: “if we’re 50-49 in a 66-34 district... I feel pretty good about taking back the House in 2018.”

More like a 53-42 district. But point taken... sort of.

(08-07-2018 09:53 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  GOP had a very low turnout. Kind of like when an SEC plays their B squad against a 1-AA team and still wins by 10.

Is that really what happened in OH-12, though?

The district broke 66-29 in 2016 for Frank Tiberi. Its a more traditional, Rockefeller republican district... John Kasich once represented this district. Trump’s Republican Party is consistently underperforming in country club suburban districts that once broke heavily for Republicans.

Trump and the Republicans are doing VERY well with Republican voters despite what you read in the NYT and hear from the never-Trumper paid talking heads. My friends who I would consider most likely to waver are very strongly behind Trump's policies.

Are Republican leaning independents less likely to vote R? Maybe. Democratic leaning blue collar independents are definitely voting more R.

Best part about this is all the bitter democrats telling us why it's not a good win. Lol

Quick, unpack and deliver the Bounty Paper Towels election shipment to the cryin' libs...

(08-07-2018 10:29 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:23 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:10 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:51 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Translation: “if we’re 50-49 in a 66-34 district... I feel pretty good about taking back the House in 2018.”

More like a 53-42 district. But point taken... sort of.

(08-07-2018 09:53 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  GOP had a very low turnout. Kind of like when an SEC plays their B squad against a 1-AA team and still wins by 10.

Is that really what happened in OH-12, though?

The district broke 66-29 in 2016 for Frank Tiberi. Its a more traditional, Rockefeller republican district... John Kasich once represented this district. Trump’s Republican Party is consistently underperforming in country club suburban districts that once broke heavily for Republicans.

Trump and the Republicans are doing VERY well with Republican voters despite what you read in the NYT and hear from the never-Trumper paid talking heads. My friends who I would consider most likely to waver are very strongly behind Trump's policies.

Are Republican leaning independents less likely to vote R? Maybe. Democratic leaning blue collar independents are definitely voting more R.

Then why the underperformance tonight?

(08-07-2018 10:29 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:23 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:10 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:51 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Translation: “if we’re 50-49 in a 66-34 district... I feel pretty good about taking back the House in 2018.”

More like a 53-42 district. But point taken... sort of.

(08-07-2018 09:53 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  GOP had a very low turnout. Kind of like when an SEC plays their B squad against a 1-AA team and still wins by 10.

Is that really what happened in OH-12, though?

The district broke 66-29 in 2016 for Frank Tiberi. Its a more traditional, Rockefeller republican district... John Kasich once represented this district. Trump’s Republican Party is consistently underperforming in country club suburban districts that once broke heavily for Republicans.

Trump and the Republicans are doing VERY well with Republican voters despite what you read in the NYT and hear from the never-Trumper paid talking heads. My friends who I would consider most likely to waver are very strongly behind Trump's policies.

Are Republican leaning independents less likely to vote R? Maybe. Democratic leaning blue collar independents are definitely voting more R.

I think the election results will show, relative to 2016

1) Non-college degreed Republicans and Independents are sticking with Trump
2) College degreed individuals are moving heavily to the Dems.

This district is 88 percent non-Hispanic white so there's really very little data to go on regarding minority voters.

Obviously the Dem increase of 10 percent came from somewhere. Was it all just higher Dem voter intensity? I think that was a lot of it, and probably a massive gender gap. I suspect that Trumps numbers among independent white voters with college degrees is where the additional Dem voters are coming from.

(08-07-2018 10:36 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:29 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:23 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:10 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:51 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Translation: “if we’re 50-49 in a 66-34 district... I feel pretty good about taking back the House in 2018.”

More like a 53-42 district. But point taken... sort of.

(08-07-2018 09:53 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  GOP had a very low turnout. Kind of like when an SEC plays their B squad against a 1-AA team and still wins by 10.

Is that really what happened in OH-12, though?

The district broke 66-29 in 2016 for Frank Tiberi. Its a more traditional, Rockefeller republican district... John Kasich once represented this district. Trump’s Republican Party is consistently underperforming in country club suburban districts that once broke heavily for Republicans.

Trump and the Republicans are doing VERY well with Republican voters despite what you read in the NYT and hear from the never-Trumper paid talking heads. My friends who I would consider most likely to waver are very strongly behind Trump's policies.

Are Republican leaning independents less likely to vote R? Maybe. Democratic leaning blue collar independents are definitely voting more R.

Then why the underperformance tonight?

Democrats overperformed and still lost.

Underperformance is a word for losers.

(08-07-2018 10:39 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:29 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:23 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:10 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:51 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Translation: “if we’re 50-49 in a 66-34 district... I feel pretty good about taking back the House in 2018.”

More like a 53-42 district. But point taken... sort of.

(08-07-2018 09:53 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  GOP had a very low turnout. Kind of like when an SEC plays their B squad against a 1-AA team and still wins by 10.

Is that really what happened in OH-12, though?

The district broke 66-29 in 2016 for Frank Tiberi. Its a more traditional, Rockefeller republican district... John Kasich once represented this district. Trump’s Republican Party is consistently underperforming in country club suburban districts that once broke heavily for Republicans.

Trump and the Republicans are doing VERY well with Republican voters despite what you read in the NYT and hear from the never-Trumper paid talking heads. My friends who I would consider most likely to waver are very strongly behind Trump's policies.

Are Republican leaning independents less likely to vote R? Maybe. Democratic leaning blue collar independents are definitely voting more R.

I think the election results will show, relative to 2016

1) Non-college degreed Republicans and Independents are sticking with Trump
2) College degreed individuals are moving heavily to the Dems.

This district is 88 percent non-Hispanic white so there's really very little data to go on regarding minority voters.

Obviously the Dem increase of 10 percent came from somewhere. Was it all just higher Dem voter intensity? I think that was a lot of it, and probably a massive gender gap. I suspect that Trumps numbers among independent white voters with college degrees is where the additional Dem voters are coming from.

Anger bitterness desperation

Still an L. Gotta be for something

(08-07-2018 10:39 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:29 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:23 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:10 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:51 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Translation: “if we’re 50-49 in a 66-34 district... I feel pretty good about taking back the House in 2018.”

More like a 53-42 district. But point taken... sort of.

(08-07-2018 09:53 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  GOP had a very low turnout. Kind of like when an SEC plays their B squad against a 1-AA team and still wins by 10.

Is that really what happened in OH-12, though?

The district broke 66-29 in 2016 for Frank Tiberi. Its a more traditional, Rockefeller republican district... John Kasich once represented this district. Trump’s Republican Party is consistently underperforming in country club suburban districts that once broke heavily for Republicans.

Trump and the Republicans are doing VERY well with Republican voters despite what you read in the NYT and hear from the never-Trumper paid talking heads. My friends who I would consider most likely to waver are very strongly behind Trump's policies.

Are Republican leaning independents less likely to vote R? Maybe. Democratic leaning blue collar independents are definitely voting more R.

I think the election results will show, relative to 2016

1) Non-college degreed Republicans and Independents are sticking with Trump
2) College degreed individuals are moving heavily to the Dems.

This district is 88 percent non-Hispanic white so there's really very little data to go on regarding minority voters.

Obviously the Dem increase of 10 percent came from somewhere. Was it all just higher Dem voter intensity? I think that was a lot of it, and probably a massive gender gap. I suspect that Trumps numbers among independent white voters with college degrees is where the additional Dem voters are coming from.

Virtually all Republicans are sticking with Trump. He has among the highest job approval ratings among his own party at this point in his term ever.

(08-07-2018 10:39 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  1) Non-college degreed Republicans and Independents are sticking with Trump
2) College degreed individuals are moving heavily to the Dems.

Lovely. We're dumb. You're smart. Yeah. Really nice.

(08-07-2018 10:27 PM)Kronke Wrote:  The blue check mark conspiracy theorists are already conjuring up a new one.

Here's my thought about the Greens. I just ignore them. They probably would just rather go to a gluten free anti-vax bike lane rally than vote. I don't think that they really are voting for a Democrat if a Green isn't in the race....they're flat out not voting.

When they come up to me, as they periodically do, I just dismiss them with "I'd respond to you, but I'm waiting for perfect, so I'll just not engage with you, just like you do with your vote".

----

While the actress' tweet was poorly considered (as was DJT's laughable tweet claiming that Balderson was losing by 30 points before he came out to campaign for Balderson), the question of why the GOP won't fund protecting our elections from Russian hacking is a valid one.

(08-07-2018 10:39 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:29 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:23 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:10 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:51 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Translation: “if we’re 50-49 in a 66-34 district... I feel pretty good about taking back the House in 2018.”

More like a 53-42 district. But point taken... sort of.

(08-07-2018 09:53 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  GOP had a very low turnout. Kind of like when an SEC plays their B squad against a 1-AA team and still wins by 10.

Is that really what happened in OH-12, though?

The district broke 66-29 in 2016 for Frank Tiberi. Its a more traditional, Rockefeller republican district... John Kasich once represented this district. Trump’s Republican Party is consistently underperforming in country club suburban districts that once broke heavily for Republicans.

Trump and the Republicans are doing VERY well with Republican voters despite what you read in the NYT and hear from the never-Trumper paid talking heads. My friends who I would consider most likely to waver are very strongly behind Trump's policies.

Are Republican leaning independents less likely to vote R? Maybe. Democratic leaning blue collar independents are definitely voting more R.

I think the election results will show, relative to 2016

1) Non-college degreed Republicans and Independents are sticking with Trump
2) College degreed individuals are moving heavily to the Dems.

This district is 88 percent non-Hispanic white so there's really very little data to go on regarding minority voters.

Obviously the Dem increase of 10 percent came from somewhere. Was it all just higher Dem voter intensity? I think that was a lot of it, and probably a massive gender gap. I suspect that Trumps numbers among independent white voters with college degrees is where the additional Dem voters are coming from.

Are you saying in these house races that the candidates themselves are pawns on the political chess board between the Duopoly?

I don't buy that. Politics in the house races are local. I don't know enough about the candidates to comment much except for the fact that the Dem tried to position himself as a centrist. Do you believe that if alexandra ocasio cortez was the Dem running in OH-12 that the outcome would be exactly the same (a tightly contested race) or a possible win by her because she's a young, fresh face?

(08-07-2018 10:28 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 09:11 PM)Kronke Wrote:  The madman sweeps in last minute, and puts Balderson over the top! Such instincts! MUCH WINNING!

MOAR RALLIES

Live from the Whitehouse

Freaking awesome.

For 70+ the man can dance!

Who sez white men can't dance?

(08-07-2018 10:43 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(08-07-2018 10:39 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  1) Non-college degreed Republicans and Independents are sticking with Trump
2) College degreed individuals are moving heavily to the Dems.

Lovely. We're dumb. You're smart. Yeah. Really nice.

Have to laugh at the implication that because a person has a college degree it makes them smarter than someone who doesn't.

(08-07-2018 10:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Here's my thought about the Greens. I just ignore them. They probably would just rather go to a gluten free anti-vax bike lane rally than vote. I don't think that they really are voting for a Democrat if a Green isn't in the race....they're flat out not voting.

When they come up to me, as they periodically do, I just dismiss them with "I'd respond to you, but I'm waiting for perfect, so I'll just not engage with you, just like you do with your vote".

How dafuq do you know who's "a green"? I've never seen anyone as tied to identity politics as you Tom.