(06-28-2018 03:55 PM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 04:59 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 04:33 AM)emu steve Wrote:  https://twitter.com/MtZionPrep/status/10...4684012545

Once again here is his You Tube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeoaB6GN36U&app=desktop

I don't want to get ahead of my skis, but do I see NBA potential? Size is really there. Shot, too.

Again has he signed?
How does he become eligible to play this season if grades are the Issue?
Someone will lose a scholarship since we. are at 13

I would guess odd man out would be Jalen Brown if it came to that.

I dont believe Brown is on scholarship

(06-28-2018 10:28 AM)emu steve Wrote:  https://twitter.com/mcline_emu/status/10...1798657024

Good now it is about eligibility

(06-28-2018 04:21 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(06-28-2018 10:28 AM)emu steve Wrote:  https://twitter.com/mcline_emu/status/10...1798657024

Good now it is about eligibility

Maybe he's going to sit out like a red shirt this year?

(06-28-2018 09:53 AM)JonesGoddard Wrote:  @emu79, I don't care who loses a scholarship if this kid still has all of this talent.

How much do we need to pay him? jk

Unless you are the player and parents who were told They had a scholarship for next season

Please correct if the sequence of events here is not accurate, so Rafus has many offers out of high school but doesn't have the grades so he goes to prep school to straighten out his grades and has many offers in prep school but they cool off because apparently he didn't straighten out his grades in prep school either?

(06-29-2018 05:38 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Please correct if the sequence of events here is not accurate, so Rafus has many offers out of high school but doesn't have the grades so he goes to prep school to straighten out his grades and has many offers in prep school but they cool off because apparently he didn't straighten out his grades in prep school either?

Yes. I'm assuming it's a combination of grades + not playing as well in prep school as schools would have liked vs the risk of taking him?

Not sure. I wish we had a beat writer.

(06-29-2018 10:06 PM)JonesGoddard Wrote:  

(06-29-2018 05:38 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Please correct if the sequence of events here is not accurate, so Rafus has many offers out of high school but doesn't have the grades so he goes to prep school to straighten out his grades and has many offers in prep school but they cool off because apparently he didn't straighten out his grades in prep school either?

Yes. I'm assuming it's a combination of grades + not playing as well in prep school as schools would have liked vs the risk of taking him?

Not sure. I wish we had a beat writer.

I know nothing so I won't speculate.

As indicated, without a beat writer anything we post is nearly 100% speculation.

That said, if the NCAA will clear him, why are we worrying about it? That is the NCAA's job, not ours. I (we) know nothing of his transcripts, etc. but the NCAA appears to be rigorous in certifying student-athletes.

We can't really determine too much from a highlight reel because it's obviously all of his "good" plays. However, it's obvious he's quite talented too because Bill Self from Kansas thought highly enough to offer him. I'm sure he's going to help this team out! I'm excited to see Toure. A 7ft center off the bench could help jT dominate this year because he won't have to worry about foul trouble. Let's just hope Toure has recovered. I've got to go get to a summer work out.....:-)

(06-29-2018 05:38 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Please correct if the sequence of events here is not accurate, so Rafus has many offers out of high school but doesn't have the grades so he goes to prep school to straighten out his grades and has many offers in prep school but they cool off because apparently he didn't straighten out his grades in prep school either?

All I know is tomorrow is July 1.

I assume he is or will be on campus soon so that he has apparently cleared at least EMU compliance and hopefully NCAA clearance house.

What I'm getting at is that the 'train is far down the track.' Presumably all of the issues have been worked out albeit out of our sight.

EMU hoops has a habit of being cautious in releasing the names of new recruits. Frequently they update the roster for the coming season after the players are on campus (I believe next week???).

That is a big difference between football and men's basketball.

One can go to Jeff Foreman's Twitter page and see a photo of him and other recruits on their OV, including a photo with CC.

Could never do something like this in MBB where recruiting is very fragmented. And, of course, a lot of evaluation in MBB is done in those AAU tourneys in May, July, etc. but they are NON-Contact period.

(06-30-2018 08:04 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(06-29-2018 05:38 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Please correct if the sequence of events here is not accurate, so Rafus has many offers out of high school but doesn't have the grades so he goes to prep school to straighten out his grades and has many offers in prep school but they cool off because apparently he didn't straighten out his grades in prep school either?

All I know is tomorrow is July 1.

I assume he is or will be on campus soon so that he has apparently cleared at least EMU compliance and hopefully NCAA clearance house.

What I'm getting at is that the 'train is far down the track.' Presumably all of the issues have been worked out albeit out of our sight.

EMU hoops has a habit of being cautious in releasing the names of new recruits. Frequently they update the roster for the coming season after the players are on campus (I believe next week???).

That is a big difference between football and men's basketball.

One can go to Jeff Foreman's Twitter page and see a photo of him and other recruits on their OV, including a photo with CC.

Could never do something like this in MBB where recruiting is very fragmented. And, of course, a lot of evaluation in MBB is done in those AAU tourneys in May, July, etc. but they are NON-Contact period.

Hm, if all the academic issues had been worked out he would have signed with another program? Due diligence maybe James Still anyone remember that name? Raven or Ray Lee (flip a coin) had issues and it did work out or it didn't sometimes on the court JT4 yep it has worked out. Glenn Bryant was lucky the young lady dropped charges. My point is that Murphy invites issues into this program it looks like pure genius when it works out but if it blows up there is egg all over the school's face and the programs. CC takes a different approach and doesn't want problem children coming into the football program. There's more to surface here, I hope it works for the player the school and the program.

I wonder what your thoughts on Greg Kampe are.

(06-30-2018 11:17 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  I wonder what your thoughts on Greg Kampe are.

Lukewarm

(06-30-2018 10:36 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 08:04 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(06-29-2018 05:38 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Please correct if the sequence of events here is not accurate, so Rafus has many offers out of high school but doesn't have the grades so he goes to prep school to straighten out his grades and has many offers in prep school but they cool off because apparently he didn't straighten out his grades in prep school either?

All I know is tomorrow is July 1.

I assume he is or will be on campus soon so that he has apparently cleared at least EMU compliance and hopefully NCAA clearance house.

What I'm getting at is that the 'train is far down the track.' Presumably all of the issues have been worked out albeit out of our sight.

EMU hoops has a habit of being cautious in releasing the names of new recruits. Frequently they update the roster for the coming season after the players are on campus (I believe next week???).

That is a big difference between football and men's basketball.

One can go to Jeff Foreman's Twitter page and see a photo of him and other recruits on their OV, including a photo with CC.

Could never do something like this in MBB where recruiting is very fragmented. And, of course, a lot of evaluation in MBB is done in those AAU tourneys in May, July, etc. but they are NON-Contact period.

Hm, if all the academic issues had been worked out he would have signed with another program? Due diligence maybe James Still anyone remember that name? Raven or Ray Lee (flip a coin) had issues and it did work out or it didn't sometimes on the court JT4 yep it has worked out. Glenn Bryant was lucky the young lady dropped charges. My point is that Murphy invites issues into this program it looks like pure genius when it works out but if it blows up there is egg all over the school's face and the programs. CC takes a different approach and doesn't want problem children coming into the football program. There's more to surface here, I hope it works for the player the school and the program.

'79 I agree with your take on the different coaching approaches. Basketball, however, seems to be on the "darker" side when it comes to recruiting as one perceived outlaw can make or break a 5 man team unlike a much larger football roster. I admire Murphy for at least taking a chance on a potentially great athlete and I have no problem with him doing so

As far as Creighton goes, the guy is an absolute workaholic as I drive by Rynearson frequently to check on the CBP progress. I think in 30 visits his Grand Cherokee was absent just once. His work ethic is astounding and affords him the opportunity to build his program exactly as he wants. Different approaches to be sure as you said.

(06-30-2018 10:36 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 08:04 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(06-29-2018 05:38 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Please correct if the sequence of events here is not accurate, so Rafus has many offers out of high school but doesn't have the grades so he goes to prep school to straighten out his grades and has many offers in prep school but they cool off because apparently he didn't straighten out his grades in prep school either?

All I know is tomorrow is July 1.

I assume he is or will be on campus soon so that he has apparently cleared at least EMU compliance and hopefully NCAA clearance house.

What I'm getting at is that the 'train is far down the track.' Presumably all of the issues have been worked out albeit out of our sight.

EMU hoops has a habit of being cautious in releasing the names of new recruits. Frequently they update the roster for the coming season after the players are on campus (I believe next week???).

That is a big difference between football and men's basketball.

One can go to Jeff Foreman's Twitter page and see a photo of him and other recruits on their OV, including a photo with CC.

Could never do something like this in MBB where recruiting is very fragmented. And, of course, a lot of evaluation in MBB is done in those AAU tourneys in May, July, etc. but they are NON-Contact period.

Hm, if all the academic issues had been worked out he would have signed with another program? Due diligence maybe James Still anyone remember that name? Raven or Ray Lee (flip a coin) had issues and it did work out or it didn't sometimes on the court JT4 yep it has worked out. Glenn Bryant was lucky the young lady dropped charges. My point is that Murphy invites issues into this program it looks like pure genius when it works out but if it blows up there is egg all over the school's face and the programs. CC takes a different approach and doesn't want problem children coming into the football program. There's more to surface here, I hope it works for the player the school and the program.

'79 I agree with your take on the different coaching approaches. Basketball, however, seems to be on the "darker" side when it comes to recruiting as one perceived outlaw can make or break a 5 man team unlike a much larger football roster. I admire Murphy for at least taking a chance on a potentially great athlete and I have no problem with him doing so

As far as Creighton goes, the guy is an absolute workaholic as I drive by Rynearson frequently to check on the CBP progress. I think in 30 visits his Grand Cherokee was absent just once. His work ethic is astounding and affords him the opportunity to build his program exactly as he wants. Different approaches to be sure as you said.

(06-30-2018 10:36 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 08:04 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(06-29-2018 05:38 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Please correct if the sequence of events here is not accurate, so Rafus has many offers out of high school but doesn't have the grades so he goes to prep school to straighten out his grades and has many offers in prep school but they cool off because apparently he didn't straighten out his grades in prep school either?

All I know is tomorrow is July 1.

I assume he is or will be on campus soon so that he has apparently cleared at least EMU compliance and hopefully NCAA clearance house.

What I'm getting at is that the 'train is far down the track.' Presumably all of the issues have been worked out albeit out of our sight.

EMU hoops has a habit of being cautious in releasing the names of new recruits. Frequently they update the roster for the coming season after the players are on campus (I believe next week???).

That is a big difference between football and men's basketball.

One can go to Jeff Foreman's Twitter page and see a photo of him and other recruits on their OV, including a photo with CC.

Could never do something like this in MBB where recruiting is very fragmented. And, of course, a lot of evaluation in MBB is done in those AAU tourneys in May, July, etc. but they are NON-Contact period.

Hm, if all the academic issues had been worked out he would have signed with another program? Due diligence maybe James Still anyone remember that name? Raven or Ray Lee (flip a coin) had issues and it did work out or it didn't sometimes on the court JT4 yep it has worked out. Glenn Bryant was lucky the young lady dropped charges. My point is that Murphy invites issues into this program it looks like pure genius when it works out but if it blows up there is egg all over the school's face and the programs. CC takes a different approach and doesn't want problem children coming into the football program. There's more to surface here, I hope it works for the player the school and the program.

'79 I agree with your take on the different coaching approaches. Basketball, however, seems to be on the "darker" side when it comes to recruiting as one perceived outlaw can make or break a 5 man team unlike a much larger football roster. I admire Murphy for at least taking a chance on a potentially great athlete and I have no problem with him doing so

As far as Creighton goes, the guy is an absolute workaholic as I drive by Rynearson frequently to check on the CBP progress. I think in 30 visits his Grand Cherokee was absent just once. His work ethic is astounding and affords him the opportunity to build his program exactly as he wants. Different approaches to be sure as you said.

(06-30-2018 10:36 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(06-30-2018 08:04 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(06-29-2018 05:38 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Please correct if the sequence of events here is not accurate, so Rafus has many offers out of high school but doesn't have the grades so he goes to prep school to straighten out his grades and has many offers in prep school but they cool off because apparently he didn't straighten out his grades in prep school either?

All I know is tomorrow is July 1.

I assume he is or will be on campus soon so that he has apparently cleared at least EMU compliance and hopefully NCAA clearance house.

What I'm getting at is that the 'train is far down the track.' Presumably all of the issues have been worked out albeit out of our sight.

EMU hoops has a habit of being cautious in releasing the names of new recruits. Frequently they update the roster for the coming season after the players are on campus (I believe next week???).

That is a big difference between football and men's basketball.

One can go to Jeff Foreman's Twitter page and see a photo of him and other recruits on their OV, including a photo with CC.

Could never do something like this in MBB where recruiting is very fragmented. And, of course, a lot of evaluation in MBB is done in those AAU tourneys in May, July, etc. but they are NON-Contact period.

Hm, if all the academic issues had been worked out he would have signed with another program? Due diligence maybe James Still anyone remember that name? Raven or Ray Lee (flip a coin) had issues and it did work out or it didn't sometimes on the court JT4 yep it has worked out. Glenn Bryant was lucky the young lady dropped charges. My point is that Murphy invites issues into this program it looks like pure genius when it works out but if it blows up there is egg all over the school's face and the programs. CC takes a different approach and doesn't want problem children coming into the football program. There's more to surface here, I hope it works for the player the school and the program.

'79 I agree with your take on the different coaching approaches. Basketball, however, seems to be on the "darker" side when it comes to recruiting as one perceived outlaw can make or break a 5 man team unlike a much larger football roster. I admire Murphy for at least taking a chance on a potentially great athlete and I have no problem with him doing so

As far as Creighton goes, the guy is an absolute workaholic as I drive by Rynearson frequently to check on the CBP progress. I think in 30 visits his Grand Cherokee was absent just once. His work ethic is astounding and affords him the opportunity to build his program exactly as he wants. Different approaches to be sure as you said.

Interesting that someone felt Andre Rafus may have been the best "shooter" in the 2017 class.

We should know about his elgibility this week when the class is shared with the media.

https://youtu.be/ZgTurcAmZGY

(07-01-2018 09:43 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  Interesting that someone felt Andre Rafus may have been the best "shooter" in the 2017 class.

We should know about his elgibility this week when the class is shared with the media.

https://youtu.be/ZgTurcAmZGY

BTW, what I like about the video is that when he shoots the 3-ball it never touches the rim.

That is one pure, beautiful shot.

(07-01-2018 09:43 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  Interesting that someone felt Andre Rafus may have been the best "shooter" in the 2017 class.

We should know about his elgibility this week when the class is shared with the media.

https://youtu.be/ZgTurcAmZGY

My guess is that Matt Cline would not have Tweeted about Andre if he wasn't eligible.

As we know, the MBB staff does not announce or put players on the EMU website unless they are eligible. (We saw the same thing in FB with several recruits not added to the public roster until after 2nd semester ended in April).

(07-01-2018 10:19 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(07-01-2018 09:43 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  Interesting that someone felt Andre Rafus may have been the best "shooter" in the 2017 class.

We should know about his elgibility this week when the class is shared with the media.

https://youtu.be/ZgTurcAmZGY

BTW, what I like about the video is that when he shoots the 3-ball it never touches the rim.

That is one pure, beautiful shot.

yes hopefully we will see it in an actual game