(06-18-2018 06:31 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:26 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Bookmarked for tigergreen's convenience. Please watch, and then retract and disavow that fake news talking point about Japanese internment camps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqXaGGjZH3E#t=25m03s

Ben Shapiro? Please.

We've been through this before. Simply posting some hard right supporter of Trump's policy doesn't make tigergreens' assertions 'fake news'.

Uhhhh, from my understanding Shapiro is a "never Trumper".

do you ever have anything of actual substance to add?

Asking for a friend.

(06-18-2018 07:16 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:26 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm still waiting for the law that says entering this country illegally is a misdemeanor

A lot of these parents and kids did not crossed the border illegally. They asked for asylum at the port of entry. Once they got granted access, the parents were arrested, and split from their kids. There is a family who is fleeing from Guatemala because of a hit on one of their children who already have been shot in the eye, and suffered other injuries from the drug cartels and their gang of thugs. The child is under 15. These cartels do sometimes have connections with other cartels in other countries including Mexico. This family needs asylum from protection from these thugs. US is the best place for them, and the child do need some medical help since the country they came from do not have the methods to treat such cases like this boy.

So, how much you kickin' in weekly to help out?

Buck up or shut up, right?

(06-18-2018 08:16 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 05:19 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 04:02 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Who cares what era or what party controlled or enacted any of this? It's abhorrent and disgusting regardless. If it was Obama, shame his administration. Trump? Shame his. The back and forth on semantics over this on the board is revolting. The lack of human compassion and willingness to let children be traumatized is even worse.

"Give more your tired, your poor, so I can throw them in cages" is not an America I will stand by.

But gleefully sat on the sidelines when the prior admin did precisely that, got it.

Now? It's ginned up OUTRAGE cuz Trump.

The transparency is transparent.

Singapore summit, IG's report and booming economy has broken the leftists... Sad.

Why do they root against America and Americans?

.... gleefully sat on the side lines? When did this ever come to light under Obama? I admit ignorance if he separated asylum seeking families. I would like some articles on that if ya have them (seriously). Double rep points if they're of the magnitude that these are (which is unlikely since the dhs Secretary today said so much in her presser, which I watched).

The now debunked pics of the kids in "cages" that started this whole faux OUTRAGE!!! are from 2014. Under the zerO admin.

This is nothing new. Do the google on the Cank in '08, or maybe '12, she's "championing" damn near the same policies that are now actually being enforced.

C'mon people. Don't be so willfully ignint just for cheap political points. Too easy to refute. Too easy.

*Edit- Haha, appears it was '!4. A scant 4 years yon.

how long you been here? Can you link us to where you were screaming about her *Ahem* position then?

Nekkit hypocrits.

Franklin Graham came out and condemn Trump over this issue. When you have an evangelist that supported you, but not on this issue, the cracks are begging to turn against Trump when Trump's base are turning on him on this issue. The image is bad for Trump, and it could drive people to vote Democrats and get Republicans out of office. Ted Cruz came out today against what Trump is doing, and Cruz is the far right of the Republicans.

(06-18-2018 10:15 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Simple solution. Get the various National Guard engineering units to build a complex out of Hesco barriers and land sea containers somewhere in the desert. If it's good enough to house our troops then it's good enough to house these families untilk they have their asylum hearings. Feed them MREs and have them use bottled water. It'll be no different than what my son's unit did for a month while training in Oman.

Then the leftists will have to change strategies because the families will be together. They can then explain to the men and women in our armed forces and the veterans who have served why it was good enough for our troops but not good enough for non-citizens.

Best of luck to your Son. Godspeed.

(06-19-2018 12:57 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Franklin Graham came out and condemn Trump over this issue. When you have an evangelist that supported you, but not on this issue, the cracks are begging to turn against Trump when Trump's base are turning on him on this issue. The image is bad for Trump, and it could drive people to vote Democrats and get Republicans out of office. Ted Cruz came out today against what Trump is doing, and Cruz is the far right of the Republicans.

Hunh.

whats "this issue"?

Federal law?

Change the damn law then, He's said it for months if not years by now.

Do it, or STFU, amirite?!?

(06-19-2018 12:57 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Franklin Graham came out and condemn Trump over this issue. When you have an evangelist that supported you, but not on this issue, the cracks are begging to turn against Trump when Trump's base are turning on him on this issue. The image is bad for Trump, and it could drive people to vote Democrats and get Republicans out of office. Ted Cruz came out today against what Trump is doing, and Cruz is the far right of the Republicans.

Just stop. People aren't going to change their vote to the socialist baby killers over illegal aliens.

Ted Cruz has one plan, Dianne Feinstein has another. Both plans are going to change the current set-up - they just have different solutions on how to enact the end of the separation. Who cares a flip about when this policy began - if it was in place in 2014, shame on the media for not bringing it to light earlier and criticizing the Obama Administration for a bad plan. It would be ironic if that was the one Obama policy that Trump decided to keep status quo. Hopefully our government will get together and make a policy that will put this country in a positive light.

(06-19-2018 05:51 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Ted Cruz has one plan, Dianne Feinstein has another. Both plans are going to change the current set-up - they just have different solutions on how to enact the end of the separation. Who cares a flip about when this policy began - if it was in place in 2014, shame on the media for not bringing it to light earlier and criticizing the Obama Administration for a bad plan. It would be ironic if that was the one Obama policy that Trump decided to keep status quo. Hopefully our government will get together and make a policy that will put this country in a positive light.

me.....it's relevant and matters....

the fact is, DJT doesn't have a thing to do with the current situation....however, he can prod the 'congressional cattle'......

turn to YOUR lawmaker for that one....

told ya going into the midterms was gonna be fonzies.....

OK, so what do we do instead? There is a huge logistical issue.

Do you catch and release? That is what appears to be a change from Obama, we aren't doing that any more. But the result of that is that we lose control of the situation and that is not a desirable result.

Do you charge the adults with a criminal violation? That is where the problem with the children arises. By law, if the parents are charged criminally, the children can't stay with them.

Do you charge the parents with a civil violation? Which one? And what do you do with them while awaiting trial?

This whole thing seems contrived to force us back to catch and release. In time for democrats to get them registered to vote in the midterms.

The answer is to change the law. I still say registered guest worker status is the way to go.

(06-18-2018 03:42 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  How many unborn babies have liberals separated from their mothers via infanticide ?

/closethread

(06-18-2018 04:00 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:51 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 03:48 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Decision to prosecute = decision to enforce the law.

Again, it's not the law to prosecute with criminal charges.

Manufactured outrage, your kind heart has been duped again.

https://mobile.twitter.com/johnddavidson...2622485504

Fight the good fight though

This part struck me as having the potential to be the worst danger in all this: You’ve failed in your thread to address a very serious point. If they don’t have documentation how do we know the adults with the kids are the parents and not child traffickers, kidnappers, child molesters? For the safety of the children temporary separation must take place.

(06-18-2018 05:01 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Good grief, tigergreen is spreading fake news up and down this entire thread. Hopefully after he views the below video, he can come back, retract, and disavow.

See below link where Harvard lawyer and never Trumper Ben Shapiro debunks all of the alt-left's talking points from today. It's an expansion on Sec. Neilsen's earlier tweet thread, but long story short, no, President Trump is not doing anything wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqXaGGjZH3E#t=02m03s

Damn those pesky facts anyway.

(06-18-2018 06:08 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:02 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 05:58 PM)appst89 Wrote:  Cartoon characters gonna cartoon.

Yea, ripping 4 year olds from their mothers and throwing them in cages because they're not white is a bucket of laughs to some people, apparently.

You want to talk to me about morality?

You have definitely picked up your game recently. You are back to being the entertaining troll you used to be.

Yes, a homo is calling your support of Trumps indefensible policy immoral and the utter and complete and utter negation of Christianity.

"Suffer the little Children unto me" has now become "Suffer the Children because of me (Trump)".

Is that in the 4chan/Red Pill Bible?

This is full on delusion and you've allowed it to consume you. What will you do when you finally understand how badly you've been duped by your handlers? For such intelligent people you loons sure are gullible.

(06-18-2018 06:19 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:11 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  MSNBC Analysts Claim Trump Administration Is Currently Operating Concentration Camps

What a slap in the face to the millions who perished in real concentration camps.

I totally agree. The internment camps for the Japanese from WWII is a more appropriate comparison.

Where's the outrage over the Italian internment camps??

Typical that liberals are so easily swayed by a few kids crying (nevermind the fact that most liberals don't have children unless they are talking about turkey baster brats).

(06-18-2018 06:28 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:23 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:19 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:11 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  MSNBC Analysts Claim Trump Administration Is Currently Operating Concentration Camps

What a slap in the face to the millions who perished in real concentration camps.

I totally agree. The internment camps for the Japanese from WWII is a more appropriate comparison.

I see you didn't watch the Ben Shapiro video that debunked all your fake news talking points.

He debunked that, too. That also isn't an appropriate comparison.

Because this is what happens when you click on your link:

Here, you could have simply done this, but you know that.

(06-18-2018 06:32 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:31 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:26 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Bookmarked for tigergreen's convenience. Please watch, and then retract and disavow that fake news talking point about Japanese internment camps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqXaGGjZH3E#t=25m03s

Ben Shapiro? Please.

We've been through this before. Simply posting some hard right supporter of Trump's policy doesn't make tigergreens' assertions 'fake news'.

He's a never Trumper. He's also a Harvard lawyer, and walks you through the actual law, instead of your typical BS media matters spin.

Everything you say is flipped 180-degrees from reality. It's incredible.

But is it really? He's agenda driven remember, the narrative doesn't have to be true to advance it...

(06-18-2018 06:19 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:11 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  MSNBC Analysts Claim Trump Administration Is Currently Operating Concentration Camps
What a slap in the face to the millions who perished in real concentration camps.

I totally agree. The internment camps for the Japanese from WWII is a more appropriate comparison.

Based upon what? How many of the camps have you visited?

(06-19-2018 07:14 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:19 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 06:11 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  MSNBC Analysts Claim Trump Administration Is Currently Operating Concentration Camps

What a slap in the face to the millions who perished in real concentration camps.

I totally agree. The internment camps for the Japanese from WWII is a more appropriate comparison.

Where's the outrage over the Italian internment camps??

probably stuck back 60 years ago when it was relevant.