(05-30-2018 02:36 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 12:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  outside of ucf fans trying to rag on usf, everyone here is perfectly fine with a 2 for 1 with florida...ucf fan would take it in a heart beat....

Louisville 2 for 1 is the issue

I would not take it in a heartbeat, nor would any UCF fan that has chimed in on our own board. Stop trying to make wild, ignorant assumptions.

By the way- this really isn't even a 2-1 for USF. Raymond James will be jammed 70/30 with UF fans. What good is that? Who cares about signing a 2-1 if the 3rd game is just another home game for the other team?

ucf had a 1 and done with texas (before being cancelled)...you played a 1 and done with Michigan..ucf fans were 100% thrilled with those games when they were announced..buy games are worse than 2 for 1

you can play denial all you want. on the 2% chance you are being genuine, youd be the extremely little minority...if i told they average ucf fans they had the opportunity to play florida 3 years in a row, they jump at it in a heart beat regardless of location...

literally no one remember the game stipulations when the games are played..and you can deny it all you want, a chance to beat florida is the pinnacle for the casual ucf fans regardless of location....the average houston fan couldnt tell you the stipulations of the #3 oklahoma (2016) or #5 oklahoma state (2009) games. all they know is that we won....hint it wasnt 1 and 1 ...

(05-30-2018 10:46 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 02:36 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 12:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  outside of ucf fans trying to rag on usf, everyone here is perfectly fine with a 2 for 1 with florida...ucf fan would take it in a heart beat....

Louisville 2 for 1 is the issue

I would not take it in a heartbeat, nor would any UCF fan that has chimed in on our own board. Stop trying to make wild, ignorant assumptions.

By the way- this really isn't even a 2-1 for USF. Raymond James will be jammed 70/30 with UF fans. What good is that? Who cares about signing a 2-1 if the 3rd game is just another home game for the other team?

ucf had a 1 and done with texas (before being cancelled)...you played a 1 and done with Michigan..ucf fans were 100% thrilled with those games when they were announced..buy games are worse than 2 for 1

you can play denial all you want, on the 2% chance you are being genuine, youd be the extremely little minority...if i told average ucf fans they had the opportunity to play florida 3 years in a row, they jump at it in a heart beat regardless of location...

literally no one remember the game stipulations when the games are played..and you can deny it all you want, a chance to beat florida is the pinnacle for the casual ucf fans regardless of location....the average houston fan couldnt tell you the stipulations of the #3 oklahoma (2016) or #5 oklahoma state (2009) games. all they know is that we won....hint it wasnt 1 and 1 ...

It was actually a 3v1 so they’d open our stadium.

(05-30-2018 02:36 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 12:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  outside of ucf fans trying to rag on usf, everyone here is perfectly fine with a 2 for 1 with florida...ucf fan would take it in a heart beat....

Louisville 2 for 1 is the issue

I would not take it in a heartbeat, nor would any UCF fan that has chimed in on our own board. Stop trying to make wild, ignorant assumptions.

By the way- this really isn't even a 2-1 for USF. Raymond James will be jammed 70/30 with UF fans. What good is that? Who cares about signing a 2-1 if the 3rd game is just another home game for the other team?

Well damn I guess I'm in the minority then because i would absolutely take a 2 for 1 with uf in a heartbeat. I dont give a sh*t where we play, I just want to beat Florida.

To get a different perspective on things would you accept a 1-1, 2-1, or a 1&done from an fcs team.

(05-30-2018 10:46 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 02:36 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 12:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  outside of ucf fans trying to rag on usf, everyone here is perfectly fine with a 2 for 1 with florida...ucf fan would take it in a heart beat....

Louisville 2 for 1 is the issue

I would not take it in a heartbeat, nor would any UCF fan that has chimed in on our own board. Stop trying to make wild, ignorant assumptions.

By the way- this really isn't even a 2-1 for USF. Raymond James will be jammed 70/30 with UF fans. What good is that? Who cares about signing a 2-1 if the 3rd game is just another home game for the other team?

ucf had a 1 and done with texas (before being cancelled)...you played a 1 and done with Michigan..ucf fans were 100% thrilled with those games when they were announced..buy games are worse than 2 for 1

you can play denial all you want. on the 2% chance you are being genuine, youd be the extremely little minority...if i told they average ucf fans they had the opportunity to play florida 3 years in a row, they jump at it in a heart beat regardless of location...

literally no one remember the game stipulations when the games are played..and you can deny it all you want, a chance to beat florida is the pinnacle for the casual ucf fans regardless of location....the average houston fan couldnt tell you the stipulations of the #3 oklahoma (2016) or #5 oklahoma state (2009) games. all they know is that we won....hint it wasnt 1 and 1 ...

I love how you again pretend to speak for "UCF fans". You have no idea.

Texas was not a 1 for 1. You are again wildly incorrect and speaking about something you don't understand. It was actually a 2-1 in which we got the 2007 home game to open BHNS. We went there in 2009. The third game kept getting pushed and now both teams agreed to drop it.

UCF fans were thrilled with Michigan as a 1 and done? Who was? I wasn't. Most fans on the UCF board weren't. Again, you are pretending to speak for UCF fans when you have nothing to base this on.

Houston fans remember that you beat Oklahoma. Ok, so what? Most other fans don't remember that at this point. What UCF fans do remember is beating Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl. Beating Auburn in the Peach Bowl. Beating Penn State in Happy Valley. The epic USF game last Black Friday.

If Florida wants to mandate that they'll only play a program like UCF if it's a 2-1 and the "home game" is at the Citrus Dump then fine. I vote to decline that every single time. Either we get a 1-1 with a game at BHNS or nothing. I absolutely do not care if we ever play UF or FSU again if they refuse to play at BHNS.

Why do you think these teams seek out USF for 2-1's? It's because they know the game will be at RJS where the majority of seats will be filled with their fans. It's a con.

(05-28-2018 08:46 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-26-2018 01:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Notre Dame fans are the worst in collegiate athletics.

Lol, ok. Do you guys still have fans?

Me thinks you know the answer since you're a regular poster over on the-boneyard.

(05-31-2018 08:23 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  I love how you again pretend to speak for "UCF fans". You have no idea.

Texas was not a 1 for 1. You are again wildly incorrect and speaking about something you don't understand. It was actually a 2-1 in which we got the 2007 home game to open BHNS. We went there in 2009. The third game kept getting pushed and now both teams agreed to drop it.

UCF fans were thrilled with Michigan as a 1 and done? Who was? I wasn't. Most fans on the UCF board weren't. Again, you are pretending to speak for UCF fans when you have nothing to base this on.

Houston fans remember that you beat Oklahoma. Ok, so what? Most other fans don't remember that at this point. What UCF fans do remember is beating Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl. Beating Auburn in the Peach Bowl. Beating Penn State in Happy Valley. The epic USF game last Black Friday.

If Florida wants to mandate that they'll only play a program like UCF if it's a 2-1 and the "home game" is at the Citrus Dump then fine. I vote to decline that every single time. Either we get a 1-1 with a game at BHNS or nothing. I absolutely do not care if we ever play UF or FSU again if they refuse to play at BHNS.

Why do you think these teams seek out USF for 2-1's? It's because they know the game will be at RJS where the majority of seats will be filled with their fans. It's a con.

why are you speaking for all ucf fans? ..2 other ucf fans respond to my post not even denying it, and one responded to say he would do it in a heart beat... you have the minority opinion, very minority

and also the internet was around in 2013...in this forum you say?

here is a thread by ucf fans getting excited to get paid 1.5 million by michigan before fans from other schools attacked, and then other ucf pointed out it was Michigan
--basically this exact thread.....but ucf being attacked not the attacker..not single ucf fan in that thread agreed with nay sayers..and the originator was a ucf fans super excited about it
https://csnbbs.com/thread-663915.html

and this has nothing to do with anything but
"Houston fans remember that you beat Oklahoma. Ok, so what? Most other fans don't remember that at this point. "
it was literally only 2 years ago...and they literally show non stop clips of that game because ed oliver sacked mayfield numerous times, and the sports channels always play it in their talks about why he is the best player in college football next season.

that game is also non stop talked about to counter ucf...
"ucf didnt have the schedule, and its not about being unfair to g5, houston could have done it in 2016 when they beat oklahoma and louisville" this was said literally last month on national tv by the heads of the playoff

you have odd opinions ...and you try to force your odd opinions on everyone else...
most ucf fans would take a 2 for 1 with Florida ....most fans still remember houston beating top 5 Oklahoma
if you want to bash usf do it for Louisville, your case against Florida just make you seem like blind usf hater

(05-31-2018 10:06 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 08:23 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  I love how you again pretend to speak for "UCF fans". You have no idea.

Texas was not a 1 for 1. You are again wildly incorrect and speaking about something you don't understand. It was actually a 2-1 in which we got the 2007 home game to open BHNS. We went there in 2009. The third game kept getting pushed and now both teams agreed to drop it.

UCF fans were thrilled with Michigan as a 1 and done? Who was? I wasn't. Most fans on the UCF board weren't. Again, you are pretending to speak for UCF fans when you have nothing to base this on.

Houston fans remember that you beat Oklahoma. Ok, so what? Most other fans don't remember that at this point. What UCF fans do remember is beating Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl. Beating Auburn in the Peach Bowl. Beating Penn State in Happy Valley. The epic USF game last Black Friday.

If Florida wants to mandate that they'll only play a program like UCF if it's a 2-1 and the "home game" is at the Citrus Dump then fine. I vote to decline that every single time. Either we get a 1-1 with a game at BHNS or nothing. I absolutely do not care if we ever play UF or FSU again if they refuse to play at BHNS.

Why do you think these teams seek out USF for 2-1's? It's because they know the game will be at RJS where the majority of seats will be filled with their fans. It's a con.

why are you speaking for all ucf fans? ..2 other ucf fans respond to my post not even denying it, and one responded to say he would do it in a heart beat... you have the minority opinion, very minority

and also the internet was around in 2013...in this forum you say?

here is a thread by ucf fans getting excited to get paid 1.5 million by michigan before fans from other schools attacked, and then other ucf pointed out it was Michigan
--basically this exact thread.....but ucf being attacked not the attacker..not single ucf fan in that thread agreed with nay sayers..and the originator was a ucf fans super excited about it
https://csnbbs.com/thread-663915.html

and this has nothing to do with anything but
"Houston fans remember that you beat Oklahoma. Ok, so what? Most other fans don't remember that at this point. "
it was literally only 2 years ago...and they literally show non stop clips of that game because ed oliver sacked mayfield numerous times, and the sports channels always play it in their talks about why he is the best player in college football next season.

that game is also non stop talked about to counter ucf...
"ucf didnt have the schedule, and its not about being unfair to g5, houston could have done it in 2016 when they beat oklahoma and louisville" this was said literally last month on national tv by the heads of the playoff

you have odd opinions ...and you try to force your odd opinions on everyone else...
most ucf fans would take a 2 for 1 with Florida ....most fans still remember houston beating top 5 Oklahoma
if you want to bash usf do it for Louisville, your case against Florida just make you seem like blind usf hater

Damn, pesik has receipts! Nothing like evidence to get in the way of a nice theory...

USFFan

(05-31-2018 05:03 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 10:06 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 08:23 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  I love how you again pretend to speak for "UCF fans". You have no idea.

Texas was not a 1 for 1. You are again wildly incorrect and speaking about something you don't understand. It was actually a 2-1 in which we got the 2007 home game to open BHNS. We went there in 2009. The third game kept getting pushed and now both teams agreed to drop it.

UCF fans were thrilled with Michigan as a 1 and done? Who was? I wasn't. Most fans on the UCF board weren't. Again, you are pretending to speak for UCF fans when you have nothing to base this on.

Houston fans remember that you beat Oklahoma. Ok, so what? Most other fans don't remember that at this point. What UCF fans do remember is beating Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl. Beating Auburn in the Peach Bowl. Beating Penn State in Happy Valley. The epic USF game last Black Friday.

If Florida wants to mandate that they'll only play a program like UCF if it's a 2-1 and the "home game" is at the Citrus Dump then fine. I vote to decline that every single time. Either we get a 1-1 with a game at BHNS or nothing. I absolutely do not care if we ever play UF or FSU again if they refuse to play at BHNS.

Why do you think these teams seek out USF for 2-1's? It's because they know the game will be at RJS where the majority of seats will be filled with their fans. It's a con.

why are you speaking for all ucf fans? ..2 other ucf fans respond to my post not even denying it, and one responded to say he would do it in a heart beat... you have the minority opinion, very minority

and also the internet was around in 2013...in this forum you say?

here is a thread by ucf fans getting excited to get paid 1.5 million by michigan before fans from other schools attacked, and then other ucf pointed out it was Michigan
--basically this exact thread.....but ucf being attacked not the attacker..not single ucf fan in that thread agreed with nay sayers..and the originator was a ucf fans super excited about it
https://csnbbs.com/thread-663915.html

and this has nothing to do with anything but
"Houston fans remember that you beat Oklahoma. Ok, so what? Most other fans don't remember that at this point. "
it was literally only 2 years ago...and they literally show non stop clips of that game because ed oliver sacked mayfield numerous times, and the sports channels always play it in their talks about why he is the best player in college football next season.

that game is also non stop talked about to counter ucf...
"ucf didnt have the schedule, and its not about being unfair to g5, houston could have done it in 2016 when they beat oklahoma and louisville" this was said literally last month on national tv by the heads of the playoff

you have odd opinions ...and you try to force your odd opinions on everyone else...
most ucf fans would take a 2 for 1 with Florida ....most fans still remember houston beating top 5 Oklahoma
if you want to bash usf do it for Louisville, your case against Florida just make you seem like blind usf hater

Damn, pesik has receipts! Nothing like evidence to get in the way of a nice theory...

USFFan

why are you speaking for all ucf fans? ..2 other ucf fans respond to my post not even denying it, and one responded to say he would do it in a heart beat... you have the minority opinion, very minority

Minority opinion? Has there been a poll taken? I have a hard time thinking that many UCF fans wanting to go to the Citrus Bowl to play a 2 for 1 with UF and no chance at UF wanting to play UCF at their home stadium.

At least UT played UCF at their new stadium when UCF played them at a 2 for 1. When was the last time UT played UH at home.

that game is also non stop talked about to counter ucf...
"ucf didnt have the schedule, and its not about being unfair to g5, houston could have done it in 2016 when they beat oklahoma and louisville" this was said literally last month on national tv by the heads of the playoff

That sounds like ESPiN.

(05-31-2018 06:00 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 05:03 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 10:06 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 08:23 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  I love how you again pretend to speak for "UCF fans". You have no idea.

Texas was not a 1 for 1. You are again wildly incorrect and speaking about something you don't understand. It was actually a 2-1 in which we got the 2007 home game to open BHNS. We went there in 2009. The third game kept getting pushed and now both teams agreed to drop it.

UCF fans were thrilled with Michigan as a 1 and done? Who was? I wasn't. Most fans on the UCF board weren't. Again, you are pretending to speak for UCF fans when you have nothing to base this on.

Houston fans remember that you beat Oklahoma. Ok, so what? Most other fans don't remember that at this point. What UCF fans do remember is beating Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl. Beating Auburn in the Peach Bowl. Beating Penn State in Happy Valley. The epic USF game last Black Friday.

If Florida wants to mandate that they'll only play a program like UCF if it's a 2-1 and the "home game" is at the Citrus Dump then fine. I vote to decline that every single time. Either we get a 1-1 with a game at BHNS or nothing. I absolutely do not care if we ever play UF or FSU again if they refuse to play at BHNS.

Why do you think these teams seek out USF for 2-1's? It's because they know the game will be at RJS where the majority of seats will be filled with their fans. It's a con.

why are you speaking for all ucf fans? ..2 other ucf fans respond to my post not even denying it, and one responded to say he would do it in a heart beat... you have the minority opinion, very minority

and also the internet was around in 2013...in this forum you say?

here is a thread by ucf fans getting excited to get paid 1.5 million by michigan before fans from other schools attacked, and then other ucf pointed out it was Michigan
--basically this exact thread.....but ucf being attacked not the attacker..not single ucf fan in that thread agreed with nay sayers..and the originator was a ucf fans super excited about it
https://csnbbs.com/thread-663915.html

and this has nothing to do with anything but
"Houston fans remember that you beat Oklahoma. Ok, so what? Most other fans don't remember that at this point. "
it was literally only 2 years ago...and they literally show non stop clips of that game because ed oliver sacked mayfield numerous times, and the sports channels always play it in their talks about why he is the best player in college football next season.

that game is also non stop talked about to counter ucf...
"ucf didnt have the schedule, and its not about being unfair to g5, houston could have done it in 2016 when they beat oklahoma and louisville" this was said literally last month on national tv by the heads of the playoff

you have odd opinions ...and you try to force your odd opinions on everyone else...
most ucf fans would take a 2 for 1 with Florida ....most fans still remember houston beating top 5 Oklahoma
if you want to bash usf do it for Louisville, your case against Florida just make you seem like blind usf hater

Damn, pesik has receipts! Nothing like evidence to get in the way of a nice theory...

USFFan

why are you speaking for all ucf fans? ..2 other ucf fans respond to my post not even denying it, and one responded to say he would do it in a heart beat... you have the minority opinion, very minority

Minority opinion? Has there been a poll taken? I have a hard time thinking that many UCF fans wanting to go to the Citrus Bowl to play a 2 for 1 with UF and no chance at UF wanting to play UCF at their home stadium.

At least UT played UCF at their new stadium when UCF played them at a 2 for 1. When was the last time UT played UH at home.

that game is also non stop talked about to counter ucf...
"ucf didnt have the schedule, and its not about being unfair to g5, houston could have done it in 2016 when they beat oklahoma and louisville" this was said literally last month on national tv by the heads of the playoff

That sounds like ESPiN.

It's perfectly fine to say "I have a hard time thinking that many UCF fans..." It's less fine to say things like "...the majority of UCF fans DO or DON'T want..." And, for that matter, it's silly to think that message board posters represent a majority of any fanbase. Most fans aren't that engaged.

But pesik found a link to a thread where the majority of the UCF fans participating were decidedly not opposed to participating in something other than a home and home. At best, it suggests that The Knight Time is also incapable of speaking for "all UCF fans."

USFFan

to respond to a few points....
rj stadium is usf's home stadium....saying "at citrus" changes the debate..

there was a scandal the last time we played texas at home, known as bleacher gate in 2001..its a long story, but the result was that ut swore they would never play us again...

(05-31-2018 06:10 PM)pesik Wrote:  to respond to a few points....
rj stadium is usf's home stadium....saying "at citrus" changes the debate..

there was a scandal the last time we played texas at home, known as bleacher gate in 2001..its a long story, but the result was that ut swore they would never play us again...

Yes, it is their home stadium, but is not a home stadium that restricts the opposing teams fan base to attend. Was Oklahoma a game that the network switched to a neutral stadium? There is a difference.

Sorry about the UT situation, but still feel that UT feels it does not need to play UH at home like UF, FSU and many other top schools playing at Spectrum stadium. Maybe OCS stadiums should be dropped to get these games. I don't.

(05-31-2018 06:09 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 06:00 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 05:03 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 10:06 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 08:23 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  I love how you again pretend to speak for "UCF fans". You have no idea.

Texas was not a 1 for 1. You are again wildly incorrect and speaking about something you don't understand. It was actually a 2-1 in which we got the 2007 home game to open BHNS. We went there in 2009. The third game kept getting pushed and now both teams agreed to drop it.

UCF fans were thrilled with Michigan as a 1 and done? Who was? I wasn't. Most fans on the UCF board weren't. Again, you are pretending to speak for UCF fans when you have nothing to base this on.

Houston fans remember that you beat Oklahoma. Ok, so what? Most other fans don't remember that at this point. What UCF fans do remember is beating Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl. Beating Auburn in the Peach Bowl. Beating Penn State in Happy Valley. The epic USF game last Black Friday.

If Florida wants to mandate that they'll only play a program like UCF if it's a 2-1 and the "home game" is at the Citrus Dump then fine. I vote to decline that every single time. Either we get a 1-1 with a game at BHNS or nothing. I absolutely do not care if we ever play UF or FSU again if they refuse to play at BHNS.

Why do you think these teams seek out USF for 2-1's? It's because they know the game will be at RJS where the majority of seats will be filled with their fans. It's a con.

why are you speaking for all ucf fans? ..2 other ucf fans respond to my post not even denying it, and one responded to say he would do it in a heart beat... you have the minority opinion, very minority

and also the internet was around in 2013...in this forum you say?

here is a thread by ucf fans getting excited to get paid 1.5 million by michigan before fans from other schools attacked, and then other ucf pointed out it was Michigan
--basically this exact thread.....but ucf being attacked not the attacker..not single ucf fan in that thread agreed with nay sayers..and the originator was a ucf fans super excited about it
https://csnbbs.com/thread-663915.html

and this has nothing to do with anything but
"Houston fans remember that you beat Oklahoma. Ok, so what? Most other fans don't remember that at this point. "
it was literally only 2 years ago...and they literally show non stop clips of that game because ed oliver sacked mayfield numerous times, and the sports channels always play it in their talks about why he is the best player in college football next season.

that game is also non stop talked about to counter ucf...
"ucf didnt have the schedule, and its not about being unfair to g5, houston could have done it in 2016 when they beat oklahoma and louisville" this was said literally last month on national tv by the heads of the playoff

you have odd opinions ...and you try to force your odd opinions on everyone else...
most ucf fans would take a 2 for 1 with Florida ....most fans still remember houston beating top 5 Oklahoma
if you want to bash usf do it for Louisville, your case against Florida just make you seem like blind usf hater

Damn, pesik has receipts! Nothing like evidence to get in the way of a nice theory...

USFFan

why are you speaking for all ucf fans? ..2 other ucf fans respond to my post not even denying it, and one responded to say he would do it in a heart beat... you have the minority opinion, very minority

Minority opinion? Has there been a poll taken? I have a hard time thinking that many UCF fans wanting to go to the Citrus Bowl to play a 2 for 1 with UF and no chance at UF wanting to play UCF at their home stadium.

At least UT played UCF at their new stadium when UCF played them at a 2 for 1. When was the last time UT played UH at home.

that game is also non stop talked about to counter ucf...
"ucf didnt have the schedule, and its not about being unfair to g5, houston could have done it in 2016 when they beat oklahoma and louisville" this was said literally last month on national tv by the heads of the playoff

That sounds like ESPiN.

It's perfectly fine to say "I have a hard time thinking that many UCF fans..." It's less fine to say things like "...the majority of UCF fans DO or DON'T want..." And, for that matter, it's silly to think that message board posters represent a majority of any fanbase. Most fans aren't that engaged.

But pesik found a link to a thread where the majority of the UCF fans participating were decidedly not opposed to participating in something other than a home and home. At best, it suggests that The Knight Time is also incapable of speaking for "all UCF fans."

USFFan

I think most UCF fans, as is the new AD, would be against a home game at the Citrus Bowl, unless they wanted to try to draw a better crowd than at their OCS stadium.

2013 hoping to get a national game for recruiting, you are right.
Different situation now. Ratings have not been too bad lately.

As a UCF fan, I only want 1 and 1's. Or a one time neutral site game. No 2 for 1s ever or 1 and dones. They just aren't worth it. If that means never playing florida, that's fine. We need to demand equality/respect not agree that we're inferior.

I love how people who are not UCF fans and don't frequent the message boards run for UCF fans pretend to speak about what UCF fans want or don't want. There are some UCF fans who would take a 2-for1 vs Florida, but not a majority.

Two things about the away game at Michigan.
1) That was before UCF's current AD arrived and set up a philosophy of mostly avoiding those games.
2) UCF received $1.5 million for that game...which is TWICE as much as USF is receiving to play AT Florida TWICE.

Finally, as I have mentioned before, by scheduling multiple 2-for-1 series, you force yourself to either play multiple FCS one year...or you have to give up a home game one year. I still haven't heard a Bulls fan explain how you are going to get around that fact. It's going to be a lot of fun for UCF fans to mock your schedule again whenever that year comes when you do have to schedule two FCS in the same season.

(05-31-2018 07:39 PM)Square Knight Wrote:  I love how people who are not UCF fans and don't frequent the message boards run for UCF fans pretend to speak about what UCF fans want or don't want. There are some UCF fans who would take a 2-for1 vs Florida, but not a majority.

Two things about the away game at Michigan.
1) That was before UCF's current AD arrived and set up a philosophy of mostly avoiding those games.
2) UCF received $1.5 million for that game...which is TWICE as much as USF is receiving to play AT Florida TWICE.

Finally, as I have mentioned before, by scheduling multiple 2-for-1 series, you force yourself to either play multiple FCS one year...or you have to give up a home game one year. I still haven't heard a Bulls fan explain how you are going to get around that fact. It's going to be a lot of fun for UCF fans to mock your schedule again whenever that year comes when you do have to schedule two FCS in the same season.

If you spread them out, you can easily have 6 home games. Even with this 2-1, USF still has 7 home games or the potential for 7 games in several years. You apparently haven't taken the time to view USF's schedule. There is not one year where 2 FCS teams are needed. Let's do some research shall we.

2019 - schedule set. 6 home games, including Wisconsin and BYU
2020 - One home game needed. No FCS teams on schedule, so at most we'll need one FCS or FBS home game.
2021 - One home game needed. No FCS teams on schedule, so at most we'll need one FCS or FBS home game.
2022 - schedule set. 6 home games, including Texas.
2023 - 6 home game already scheduled. One game home or away needed. An FCS
or FBS home game would give 7 home games.
2024. 7 home games already scheduled including NC State and Louisville.

There's not one year where 2 FCS teams are needed. At most one is needed, if at all.

So tell me, which year is USF going to need 2 FCS teams. Pretty much every year, 6 or 7 home games are already accounted for.

That said, I personally hate 2-1's. But you absolutely can have 6 home games at least, with 2-1's, without signing 2 FCS teams.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/aac/usf-bulls.php

(05-31-2018 07:39 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  As a UCF fan, I only want 1 and 1's. Or a one time neutral site game. No 2 for 1s ever or 1 and dones. They just aren't worth it. If that means never playing florida, that's fine. We need to demand equality/respect not agree that we're inferior.

I'm in the minority, but I completely agree with you. I detest 2-1's. Some Bulls fans like this series. I understand the reason for it, but I disagree with it.

You guys that hate 2-1 are aiming high... don't want to step down off the P5 standard. I get that and I admire it... I think the rest of us are just trying to be realistic. We need to play these guys, and there are about 20 or so premiere programs that very likely won't do a 1-1 with an AAC school. We get 3 shots to take down UF, and they come to RJS. If we want to step up, this is an opportunity.

Also, FWIW I noticed that UF said one of the big reasons they made the deal was to play in RJS. Interesting positive for where we play... vs. a smaller cheaper OCS. While the OCS would be nice to develop those traditions, etc., there is definitely a benefit (that many here will never acknowledge) to playing in an NFL stadium that has hosted Super Bowls.

No problem with a 2v1 with UF but bragging about ray jay is a bridge too far

(06-01-2018 10:59 AM)Bull Wrote:  You guys that hate 2-1 are aiming high... don't want to step down off the P5 standard. I get that and I admire it... I think the rest of us are just trying to be realistic. We need to play these guys, and there are about 20 or so premiere programs that very likely won't do a 1-1 with an AAC school. We get 3 shots to take down UF, and they come to RJS. If we want to step up, this is an opportunity.

Also, FWIW I noticed that UF said one of the big reasons they made the deal was to play in RJS. Interesting positive for where we play... vs. a smaller cheaper OCS. While the OCS would be nice to develop those traditions, etc., there is definitely a benefit (that many here will never acknowledge) to playing in an NFL stadium that has hosted Super Bowls.

One game every three years is not equivalent to the tradition, revenue, or flexibility offered by a OCS.

Further I'm quite sure RJS would be more than happy to fill in as a home venue for these types of matchups if it was a key point.

Cincy and Houston have done this. I am sure SMU could and am pretty sure Tulane has as well.