Kayjay
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RE: Lester Leaving
(04-04-2018 10:27 AM)Kayjay Wrote: (03-29-2018 11:22 AM)Kayjay Wrote: (03-26-2018 11:02 AM)Kayjay Wrote: (03-23-2018 10:17 AM)Kayjay Wrote: (03-21-2018 12:51 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote: The scholarship limit is 13. There are 351 Division I programs. That equals 4563 players.
Thanks for the correction. UPDATE, as of today (March 23) there are now 211 transfers announced in D-1 hoops.
Further Update (March 26) There are now 241 transfers announced in D-1 hoops, including:
6 from Youngstown State,
6 from Maine,
7 from Pitt,
4 leaving The Citidel,
3 From Wyoming,
4 from Wake Forest,
4 USC Upstate,
3 San Jose State,
3 Oral Roberts,
4 NC State,
3 Louisiana Tech,
4 Fordham,
5 Evansville,
4 Dayton,
3 Cal Poly,
and 3 Bowling Green.
For those still paying attention, as of today (March 29), 311 Players have announced that they will transfer from their current Division 1 school.
Updated as of April 4, there are now 356 D-1 players intending to transfer to a new school, including Freshman 6-1 PG Tyler Maye from VCU.
Today's Update: (April 10)
429 Players announced they are transferring from their current D-1 Schools including 4 from UTEP.
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WestGrayStreetOwl
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RE: Lester Leaving
(04-10-2018 01:44 PM)georgewebb Wrote: "Men's Basketball Ball Boy to Transfer"
https://issuu.com/ricetrasher/docs/180331thresh (see page 4)
A headline on the first page: "MEN'S SPORTS GONE: Athletic Director unveils new plan to increase average team quality".
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04-10-2018 07:11 PM |
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Antarius
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RE: Lester Leaving
(04-10-2018 07:11 PM)WestGrayStreetOwl Wrote: (04-10-2018 01:44 PM)georgewebb Wrote: "Men's Basketball Ball Boy to Transfer"
https://issuu.com/ricetrasher/docs/180331thresh (see page 4)
A headline on the first page: "MEN'S SPORTS GONE: Athletic Director unveils new plan to increase average team quality".
This is a work of art.
Well played.
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04-10-2018 08:05 PM |
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elw4796
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RE: Lester Leaving
Unrelated to Miles, but Malik has heard from DePaul, Stanford, Wisconsin, and Nevada among others.
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04-13-2018 11:36 AM |
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RE: Lester Leaving
(04-13-2018 11:36 AM)elw4796 Wrote: Unrelated to Miles, but Malik has heard from DePaul, Stanford, Wisconsin, and Nevada among others.
Wowza. Just goes to show that the transfer epidemic isn't entirely caused by players' wildly misperceiving their own skills / "betting on themselves" irrationally
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04-13-2018 12:04 PM |
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Tiki Owl
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RE: Lester Leaving
(04-13-2018 12:04 PM)Intellectual_Brutality Wrote: (04-13-2018 11:36 AM)elw4796 Wrote: Unrelated to Miles, but Malik has heard from DePaul, Stanford, Wisconsin, and Nevada among others.
Wowza. Just goes to show that the transfer epidemic isn't entirely caused by players' wildly misperceiving their own skills / "betting on themselves" irrationally
Too bad when with the year of playing at Rice improves a player to the point that he is recruited by schools that originally had no interest in him. Seems like we should get a finders or developmental fee.
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04-13-2018 05:14 PM |
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ExcitedOwl18
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RE: Lester Leaving
(04-13-2018 05:14 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote: (04-13-2018 12:04 PM)Intellectual_Brutality Wrote: (04-13-2018 11:36 AM)elw4796 Wrote: Unrelated to Miles, but Malik has heard from DePaul, Stanford, Wisconsin, and Nevada among others.
Wowza. Just goes to show that the transfer epidemic isn't entirely caused by players' wildly misperceiving their own skills / "betting on themselves" irrationally
Too bad when with the year of playing at Rice improves a player to the point that he is recruited by schools that originally had no interest in him. Seems like we should get a finders or developmental fee.
To be fair, Malik actually had at least one commitable Big East offer out of HS (Seton Hall).
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04-13-2018 05:16 PM |
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elw4796
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RE: Lester Leaving
"Miles was going to be a walk-on so a walk-on is transferring," he said of Lester, who earned a scholarship during the 2017-2018 season.
This is a pretty worrisome quote to me (from Glynn Hill's article: https://m.chron.com/sports/rice/article/...813175.php.) I know coach is probably frustrated, but that comes across as something pretty petty to say about a departing player. It might be inconsequential, but I'm exactly sure what the point of saying something like that is.
(This post was last modified: 04-13-2018 05:18 PM by elw4796.)
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RE: Lester Leaving
(04-13-2018 05:16 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: (04-13-2018 05:14 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote: (04-13-2018 12:04 PM)Intellectual_Brutality Wrote: (04-13-2018 11:36 AM)elw4796 Wrote: Unrelated to Miles, but Malik has heard from DePaul, Stanford, Wisconsin, and Nevada among others.
Wowza. Just goes to show that the transfer epidemic isn't entirely caused by players' wildly misperceiving their own skills / "betting on themselves" irrationally
Too bad when with the year of playing at Rice improves a player to the point that he is recruited by schools that originally had no interest in him. Seems like we should get a finders or developmental fee.
To be fair, Malik actually had at least one commitable Big East offer out of HS (Seton Hall).
True, but being “Ennised” again is really tiresome.
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04-13-2018 05:37 PM |
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elw4796
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RE: Lester Leaving
Heading to Wake Forest as a preferred walk-on.
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04-27-2018 11:19 AM |
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RE: Lester Leaving
(04-27-2018 11:19 AM)elw4796 Wrote: Heading to Wake Forest as a preferred walk-on.
And he would get more PT at an ACC team than here? OK...
I just think of all those guys who left last year and had they stayed what this past season might have been. Are their careers/experiences better than have been on what have could potentially been a cinderella team?
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04-27-2018 02:40 PM |
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RE: Lester Leaving
He'd rather pay to ride the bench at Wake Forest than stay and play at Rice.
The transfer epidemic in general isn't a problem with Rice specifically, but still... is being a Rice basketball player that bad an experience?
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04-28-2018 10:16 AM |
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RE: Lester Leaving
(04-28-2018 10:16 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote: He'd rather pay to ride the bench at Wake Forest than stay and play at Rice.
The transfer epidemic in general isn't a problem with Rice specifically, but still... is being a Rice basketball player that bad an experience?
I think he was concerned about playing time at Rice next year, so he would rather pay to sit on the bench at a good program with good attendance than pay to sit on the bench at a program that is ... less successful.
(This post was last modified: 04-28-2018 11:34 AM by mrbig.)
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04-28-2018 11:33 AM |
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RE: Lester Leaving
(04-28-2018 03:35 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote: (04-28-2018 11:33 AM)mrbig Wrote: (04-28-2018 10:16 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote: He'd rather pay to ride the bench at Wake Forest than stay and play at Rice.
The transfer epidemic in general isn't a problem with Rice specifically, but still... is being a Rice basketball player that bad an experience?
I think he was concerned about playing time at Rice next year, so he would rather pay to sit on the bench at a good program with good attendance than pay to sit on the bench at a program that is ... less successful.
Just me, but I would rather play in front of 1,000 than sit in front of 10,000.
Would it be the same if it was 100 not 1000?
Everyone has a different tolerance for what counts for them. That said, this is a common refrain amongst our transfers. It seems to be more than the crowd. Its sit on the bench and win by leaving or play and lose by staying.
(This post was last modified: 04-28-2018 03:43 PM by Antarius.)
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04-28-2018 03:42 PM |
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RE: Lester Leaving
(04-27-2018 02:08 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote: Cost to attend Wake Forest next year will be $62,538. Hopefully they have his desired major.
http://www.journalnow.com/news/local/cos...f6878.html
We don't know what other financial aid (if any) he might be getting from Wake Forest.
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04-28-2018 06:16 PM |
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RE: Lester Leaving
(04-28-2018 03:42 PM)Antarius Wrote: (04-28-2018 03:35 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote: (04-28-2018 11:33 AM)mrbig Wrote: (04-28-2018 10:16 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote: He'd rather pay to ride the bench at Wake Forest than stay and play at Rice.
The transfer epidemic in general isn't a problem with Rice specifically, but still... is being a Rice basketball player that bad an experience?
I think he was concerned about playing time at Rice next year, so he would rather pay to sit on the bench at a good program with good attendance than pay to sit on the bench at a program that is ... less successful.
Just me, but I would rather play in front of 1,000 than sit in front of 10,000.
Would it be the same if it was 100 not 1000?
Everyone has a different tolerance for what counts for them. That said, this is a common refrain amongst our transfers. It seems to be more than the crowd. Its sit on the bench and win by leaving or play and lose by staying.
for me, other things being equal, more or less, I would rather play in front of Mom and Dad and six others than ride the bench for 40minutes in front of 10,000. I doubt there are many competitors who would prefer sitting on a bench.
I say, other things being equal, more or less. I would rather ride the bench at Rice than start at West Cntral Podunk State. There are far more considerations than crowd size.
I don’t see crowd size as being a determinant in the decicision to be a sub somewhere else rather than a player here. A minor factor, maybe, but not a determining one. Other wise the decision would always be to transfer to the place with the best attendance.
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04-28-2018 07:41 PM |
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Antarius
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RE: Lester Leaving
(04-28-2018 07:41 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote: (04-28-2018 03:42 PM)Antarius Wrote: (04-28-2018 03:35 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote: (04-28-2018 11:33 AM)mrbig Wrote: (04-28-2018 10:16 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote: He'd rather pay to ride the bench at Wake Forest than stay and play at Rice.
The transfer epidemic in general isn't a problem with Rice specifically, but still... is being a Rice basketball player that bad an experience?
I think he was concerned about playing time at Rice next year, so he would rather pay to sit on the bench at a good program with good attendance than pay to sit on the bench at a program that is ... less successful.
Just me, but I would rather play in front of 1,000 than sit in front of 10,000.
Would it be the same if it was 100 not 1000?
Everyone has a different tolerance for what counts for them. That said, this is a common refrain amongst our transfers. It seems to be more than the crowd. Its sit on the bench and win by leaving or play and lose by staying.
for me, other things being equal, more or less, I would rather play in front of Mom and Dad and six others than ride the bench for 40minutes in front of 10,000. I doubt there are many competitors who would prefer sitting on a bench.
I say, other things being equal, more or less. I would rather ride the bench at Rice than start at West Cntral Podunk State. There are far more considerations than crowd size.
I don’t see crowd size as being a determinant in the decicision to be a sub somewhere else rather than a player here. A minor factor, maybe, but not a determining one. Other wise the decision would always be to transfer to the place with the best attendance.
I'm unclear - your first para said youd rather play than be on the bench. Second paragraph said youd ride the bench at Rice rather than start at podunk state.
WF is a very good school. And WF to us athletically is like Rice to podunk state. So based on your second paragraph, it's a reasonable and logical move to go there
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04-28-2018 08:38 PM |
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RE: Lester Leaving
Good decision for him. Unlike the majority of our guys that transfer to uh, less than desirable academic institutions, Miles will be getting a great education.
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04-28-2018 09:27 PM |
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