I would rock a Taurus SHO un-ironically. What a beast but still Crack Pipe priced.

(04-26-2018 01:58 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  How are they going to meet CAFE standards while doing away with 2/3rds of their high mileage fleet?

Mild hybrid systems are about to become extremely common.

I imagine they see that as covering 90% of any shortfall.

(04-26-2018 04:13 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I would rock a Taurus SHO un-ironically. What a beast but still Crack Pipe priced.

the shittiest part about a taurus sho was the ford part, the body. it had a yamaha engine.

(04-26-2018 04:13 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I would rock a Taurus SHO un-ironically. What a beast but still Crack Pipe priced.

First new car my girlfriend, now wife, bought was an Oldsmobile Achieva in '93. It had the W41 Quad 4 engine and a five speed and that little bastard would flat fly. We were coming back from Savannah one night on I95 and I was driving when this dude in a Taurus SHO came up beside us and acted like he wanted to race, This went on for about five miles before she finally said "Dust him" I dropped it down to fourth and left him in the dust.

We stopped at the U178 exit to get gas and for her to go to the bathroom and the dude in the Taurus pulled up beside me at the pump. He wanted to know what we had under the hood and probably to this day still doesn't believe it was a bone stock engine even after looking at it.

Although we would have outgrown that car as our family grew I wish we still had it. Sadly she was slowing down to turn into work and this dude just plowed into the back of it and totaled it. I've looked at a couple similar models on Craigslist since then but they always seem to have the automatic.

(04-26-2018 04:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(04-26-2018 03:20 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  First off, I see a LOT of the Fusions out there everyday. That’s the one the Cops drive too, right? I think they’re pretty sharp looking.

The newer sedans that Ford offers in a police package is based on the Taurus.

Ah, okay thanks. That's probably correct. I thought the Fusion might be a bit small, but didn't realize til about 3 days ago they had even reintroduced the Taurus (When I was stopped behind a Civvy), as they had switched it to the 500 or the Freestyle Crossover style in that branding debacle some years ago.

(04-26-2018 04:13 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I would rock a Taurus SHO un-ironically. What a beast but still Crack Pipe priced.

Years ago, like '92, I had a business deal going with a guy who drove an SHO. He had bought it for his 26 YO or so kid to drive, but had to take the thing away from him. This wasn't some 16-18 YO we're talking about here.

So this guy now drove it and the first time we got in the car with him he says, yea, it's a lot of fun to drive, then proceeded to smoke the tires in the parking lot.

(04-26-2018 04:31 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  First new car my girlfriend, now wife, bought was an Oldsmobile Achieva in '93. It had the W41 Quad 4 engine and a five speed and that little bastard would flat fly.

That was almost my first car! Instead I ended up with 1984 Ford Bronco II.

One of the reasons I am a closet SHO fan is because my buddy's dad had an '89 SHO in black with what still is in my mind the greatest personalized license plate of all time: SHOTIME

Because of this the SHO is not a "S.H.O." it's a "Show"

(04-26-2018 05:04 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(04-26-2018 04:31 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  First new car my girlfriend, now wife, bought was an Oldsmobile Achieva in '93. It had the W41 Quad 4 engine and a five speed and that little bastard would flat fly.

That was almost my first car! Instead I ended up with 1984 Ford Bronco II.

Her's was a maroon two door with the little spoiler on the back. Like I said, that car would absolutely fly.

(04-26-2018 12:53 PM)450bench Wrote:  Found
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I know it as Fix Or Replace Daily.

Personally, I've had three new trucks and they've always been Chevys. The first one stayed with me 16 years. The second one 17 years. Only the Tundra was in my family for 7 years. After that another Chevy in 2016, a Colorado which I love. That 305 HP engine can really move and I'm getting around 21 mpg. I'll keep this one until I die probably. I have never regretted my Chevy trucks.

The only Ford was a classic 1953 Ford but the wasn't my primary transportation.

(04-26-2018 05:47 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(04-26-2018 12:53 PM)450bench Wrote:  Found
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I know it as Fix Or Replace Daily.

Personally, I've had three new trucks and they've always been Chevys. The first one stayed with me 16 years. The second one 17 years. Only the Tundra was in my family for 7 years. After that another Chevy in 2016, a Colorado which I love. That 305 HP engine can really move and I'm getting around 21 mpg. I'll keep this one until I die probably. I have never regretted my Chevy trucks.

The only Ford was a classic 1953 Ford but the wasn't my primary transportation.

chevys and fords have always been sides of the same coin to me. the two worst vehicles have ever owned were a ford and a chevy. the most well made have been hondas and toyotas. my favorites have been jeeps and bmws.

I think they're getting out because they can't compete with imports who do a much better job. If you just want a car for the lowest price possible Chevy and Hyundai can race to the bottom for you. If you want a quality car that's reliable for a reasonable price, what exactly is wrong with a Mazda/Subaru/Honda/Toyota/VW Golf? The fully loaded Golf can even drive itself like a Tesla.

If oil spikes and as a result gas prices spike, will this not come back to bite Ford right in the a$$?

(04-26-2018 05:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-26-2018 05:47 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(04-26-2018 12:53 PM)450bench Wrote:  Found
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I know it as Fix Or Replace Daily.

Personally, I've had three new trucks and they've always been Chevys. The first one stayed with me 16 years. The second one 17 years. Only the Tundra was in my family for 7 years. After that another Chevy in 2016, a Colorado which I love. That 305 HP engine can really move and I'm getting around 21 mpg. I'll keep this one until I die probably. I have never regretted my Chevy trucks.

The only Ford was a classic 1953 Ford but the wasn't my primary transportation.

chevys and fords have always been sides of the same coin to me. the two worst vehicles have ever owned were a ford and a chevy. the most well made have been hondas and toyotas. my favorites have been jeeps and bmws.

80s GMs were awful, but they used to make good cars. I had a 75 Malibu with a V8 that had almost no trouble. Sold it to my sister at 7 years and 105k. She kept it for about 5 years and another 25k, totaled it and got more from insurance than I sold it to her for and then drove it another 5 years. Now my 87 Buick, it got to the point where the cashier at the dealer knew me by name. I only had to say a sentence before the repair people already knew the trouble (since they'd seen it so many times before). It blew a rod at 5 years and about 60,000 miles. Got scrap price for it.

So the real unasked question---is Ford simply another American auto company repeating a past auto company mistake? My gut feeling is they probably are.


https://www.dollarcollapse.com/americas-...-mistakes/

I like my Fusion, probably won't buy another FORD never be fond of their SUVs. I may buy a Lincoln SUV but leaning towards a Mercedes next time. With this move FORD exits the Police Car and government motor pool business since their remaining models won't fit that criteria. It may be a saving grace for Chrysler/Dodge and will certainly be a boost to Chevy's car business.. May even boost Cadillac business for Limo's if Lincoln ends Sedan production too.

(04-27-2018 11:38 AM)VA49er Wrote:  If oil spikes and as a result gas prices spike, will this not come back to bite Ford right in the a$$?

CUVs are efficient enough and there will be an explosion of mild hybrid systems very soon.

That paradigm has shifted.

I love my 5-cylinder VW sedan




I'm also very glad I didn't opt for the diesel

(04-27-2018 04:53 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I like my Fusion, probably won't buy another FORD never be fond of their SUVs. I may buy a Lincoln SUV but leaning towards a Mercedes next time. With this move FORD exits the Police Car and government motor pool business since their remaining models won't fit that criteria. It may be a saving grace for Chrysler/Dodge and will certainly be a boost to Chevy's car business.. May even boost Cadillac business for Limo's if Lincoln ends Sedan production too.

Most law enforcement agencies around here have been opting for the Explorer police package over the Taurus anyway. In fact the only agency I've seen with the Taurus has been the SC Highway Patrol. Most everyone else has gone with Explorers, Tahoes, and Dodge Chargers.

(04-26-2018 11:09 AM)bobdizole Wrote:  It's the early 2000s all over again. Gas prices are down so companies want to push people towards trucks and SUVs. Even though gas economy is far superior now, if we get another run on gas prices the sedans will make a come back and dealerships won't be able to give away SUVs. I wonder how many people ended up sleeping in their H2s after 2009

Then they'll come back to the trough for another bailout. Why worry about long-term trends when you can chase short-term profits and have the taxpayer assume the risk?

Gas prices are inching up again in Texas. And if they're up here, I imagine it's worse in others part of the country.

I love my Dodge Ram Hemi. I don't use it to haul anything of note really but I love the engine's strength when I get onto a freeway, and in Texas as poor as others drivers are, at least you tend to get more respect in a truck. But the biggest thing is having been in Houston 32 years now, I have come to the conclusion that you can't drive low-lying vehicles in our flat terrain which is prone to flooding. As long as you don't have a long commute (which I don't), there is no reason to drive anything but a truck in Houston.