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I was very close behind the uc bench at the game, and there was so much confusion as to what to do when they broke the press(which they did on multiple occasions) and had numbers and the lead. They had Jenifer, Broome and Evans with the ball and 3 on 2's in that stretch and all 3 hesitated. Then they would wait for the d to catchup and decide to attack. It was maddening to watch up close. They couldn't decide whether to run clock or try to score. However, to basically turn to a guy who had no success in that game to take the ball down the floor with 9 seconds and charge the hoop or try to get fouled(as per Cronin on his show last night) is kind of a reality check. What made our coaching staff select that option with their defense set and no success with it all game really makes me question their sanity in the moment. Second, what does that say about your perimeter shooting options. The Nba bound wing, best shooting frosh he's recruited, et. al were not options to win the game. Honestly, i would have welcome a Kw or Gary 3 point try to win it. Even if Broome draws a foul as shaky as he looked under the bright lights does anyone think he cans 2 ft's? That was a total meltdown on both the coaching and players shoulders. Contrast it to the play Beilien calls the night before to beat Houston.

Cronin said in the post game the players got that "deer in the headlights" look. I think it's obvious that the coaching staff got it too. And that is a big concern.

(03-20-2018 12:09 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Cronin said in the post game the players got that "deer in the headlights" look. I think it's obvious that the coaching staff got it too. And that is a big concern.

Yep... this concerns me as well. Its not as if Mick is a spring chicken any more. He's 46 and has been a head coach for 15 years. He still hasn't figured out how to elevate himself and his players in the biggest moments. We had a team full of Juniors and Seniors look like a bunch of Freshman. How does coach K and Cal get their teams full of Freshman to be playing so loose and comfortable this time of the year, and our Juniors and Seniors are nervous? This is not an isolated issue, and I am not sure if Mick will ever ask himself the tough questions needed to improve in this department.

(03-20-2018 11:51 AM)dsquare Wrote:  I was very close behind the uc bench at the game, and there was so much confusion as to what to do when they broke the press(which they did on multiple occasions) and had numbers and the lead. They had Jenifer, Broome and Evans with the ball and 3 on 2's in that stretch and all 3 hesitated. Then they would wait for the d to catchup and decide to attack. It was maddening to watch up close. They couldn't decide whether to run clock or try to score. However, to basically turn to a guy who had no success in that game to take the ball down the floor with 9 seconds and charge the hoop or try to get fouled(as per Cronin on his show last night) is kind of a reality check. What made our coaching staff select that option with their defense set and no success with it all game really makes me question their sanity in the moment. Second, what does that say about your perimeter shooting options. The Nba bound wing, best shooting frosh he's recruited, et. al were not options to win the game. Honestly, i would have welcome a Kw or Gary 3 point try to win it. Even if Broome draws a foul as shaky as he looked under the bright lights does anyone think he cans 2 ft's? That was a total meltdown on both the coaching and players shoulders. Contrast it to the play Beilien calls the night before to beat Houston.

Yup. Nevada basically started playing Kamikaze ball on offense, leaving our guys open for quick transition buckets. Unfortunately we looked confused, and instead of running the clock out or taking the easy points, we ended up missing stupid shots.

As soon as Nevada's run started I said we needed to get the ball down low to Clark and let him work. By the time we tried to do that Nevada had adjusted and we were already on our heels. Clark couldn't get a look and Nevada had all the momentum.

So many freaking things went wrong. The players choked, the coaches choked, it was just a full blown catastrophe.

I agree with many comments on this board. My belief is that the teams "fear character" is instilled into them the entire season looking over their shoulder and getting pulled for one mistake by Cronin. I coached football for many years in high school and realized my teams took on my feelings. Too emotional, they were emotional, fear of being yanked for a mistake, made them play in hope they wouldn't make a mistake. Teams take on the personality of their coach and I think we saw it multiplied against Nevada. Cronin is uptight and extremely uptight in bigger games and the team plays that way against better opponents; ie; Xavier, Florida, Wichita St.. or against teams on the "bigger stage" NCAA round 2.

It was great season that just ended poorly. In fact when you look back at the last few games on the big stage, @Wichita, ACC tournament Houston, easily could've been loses if shots would've been made on the last possession.

(03-20-2018 11:27 AM)bearcat54 Wrote:  it wasn't just long shots but UC missed layups and 5 footers. Happens alot to UC over the years, even Huggins era. What's the answer? do you want CRONIN' s staff to cheat and bring in one and dones? end up seeing many players arrested off campus? i believe that eventually all of this will even out and UC will start getting some breaks sometime in the future. Cronin is doing a lot of things right. Why upset the egg basket? Keep suppoting UC and someday it will pay off.
then again, some of the fans in here will probably complain that UC isn't in 8 final fours in a row when that happens.


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Bolded, these choices are not mutually exclusive; run a clean program and win. Most UC fans are past the point of expecting results commensurate with Duke, UK, or UNC. Finish against Nevada, advance to the Sweet Sixteen, hang that banner and a majority would feel it was a special season and the program is on the right trajectory. Blow a 22 point lead as a #2 seed and come home the first weekend of the tournament for the seventh time in eight years and there is reasonable doubt about postseason coaching with a team many labeled "Mick's best".

(03-20-2018 01:03 PM)bearcat72 Wrote:  I agree with many comments on this board. My belief is that the teams "fear character" is instilled into them the entire season looking over their shoulder and getting pulled for one mistake by Cronin. I coached football for many years in high school and realized my teams took on my feelings. Too emotional, they were emotional, fear of being yanked for a mistake, made them play in hope they wouldn't make a mistake. Teams take on the personality of their coach and I think we saw it multiplied against Nevada. Cronin is uptight and extremely uptight in bigger games and the team plays that way against better opponents; ie; Xavier, Florida, Wichita St.. or against teams on the "bigger stage" NCAA round 2.

It was great season that just ended poorly. In fact when you look back at the last few games on the big stage, @Wichita, ACC tournament Houston, easily could've been loses if shots would've been made on the last possession.

Exactly. They got unbelievably uptight in the Wichita game in the last 3 minutes. It's the same thing we see time and time again against the good opponents. Build a 5-7 point lead and hold on for dear life down the stretch instead of continuing to play like they did for the first 35-37 minutes.

Our problem against Nevada down the stretch was two-fold.

First we played right into their hands when they decided to trap and play us 3 on 4 for several minutes by having our guards who are terrible shooters jack up wide open shots and miss everything.

Then as it got closer and closer both on the scoreboard and in time remaining we tightened up as always and started running down the shot clock with zero offensive movement and threw up contested outside shots as the shot clock expired.

They completely stopped running their offense, moving the ball and getting touches for our bigs over those last 11 minutes whether we were playing into their hands by going fast or when we started trying to play stall ball.

players and Mick lost their composure. I think Mick deserves the bulk of the blame.

up 22 with 12 to go.

They should have been feeding Gary on the block or running the clock down and having Evans go 1 on 1.

Instead they kept shooting jumpers and took too many early shots.

Mick had the timeouts but waited too long on the first one and didn't use a second one in time

Not sure why Tre Scott didn't play more in the 2nd half when UC had a big lead.

Mick is a great talent evaluator and is one of the best defensive coaches in the country but can't coach offense to save his life. His constant screaming at his players only makes things worse.

I hope I am wrong but I doubt Mick ever changes.

I am firmly in the camp that "it’s not the Xs and Os, it’s the Jimmys and Joes," so I've tried not to criticize Mick's offense too much. I've felt that, aside from a few obvious standouts, his recruits have been just very limited, and any coach would have trouble getting them into a coherent offence.

This year was different, though. Mick plainly had the talent and choked with (on?) it. I now feel that he will find a way to muck things up no matter how much talent he happens to have on board in any given year. I know he can't be fired now, but how the fanbase carries on after this debacle is beyond me.

(03-20-2018 01:14 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:03 PM)bearcat72 Wrote:  I agree with many comments on this board. My belief is that the teams "fear character" is instilled into them the entire season looking over their shoulder and getting pulled for one mistake by Cronin. I coached football for many years in high school and realized my teams took on my feelings. Too emotional, they were emotional, fear of being yanked for a mistake, made them play in hope they wouldn't make a mistake. Teams take on the personality of their coach and I think we saw it multiplied against Nevada. Cronin is uptight and extremely uptight in bigger games and the team plays that way against better opponents; ie; Xavier, Florida, Wichita St.. or against teams on the "bigger stage" NCAA round 2.

It was great season that just ended poorly. In fact when you look back at the last few games on the big stage, @Wichita, ACC tournament Houston, easily could've been loses if shots would've been made on the last possession.

Exactly. They got unbelievably uptight in the Wichita game in the last 3 minutes. It's the same thing we see time and time again against the good opponents. Build a 5-7 point lead and hold on for dear life down the stretch instead of continuing to play like they did for the first 35-37 minutes.

Our problem against Nevada down the stretch was two-fold.

First we played right into their hands when they decided to trap and play us 3 on 4 for several minutes by having our guards who are terrible shooters jack up wide open shots and miss everything.

Then as it got closer and closer both on the scoreboard and in time remaining we tightened up as always and started running down the shot clock with zero offensive movement and threw up contested outside shots as the shot clock expired.

They completely stopped running their offense, moving the ball and getting touches for our bigs over those last 11 minutes whether we were playing into their hands by going fast or when we started trying to play stall ball.

UC needed Leslie Nielsen from "The Naked Gun" in the midst of absolute mayhem on screen telling people, "Remain calm, nothing to see here, just move along."

There is no doubt in my mind when the coach is melting down as a lead evaporates it's neither focusing the players on the task at hand or reinforcing confidence that they can control their destiny rather than the officials or the opponent. Can that be a learned skill for a veteran coach? Not sure; maybe it's innate for some.

(03-20-2018 01:49 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  I am firmly in the camp that "it’s not the Xs and Os, it’s the Jimmys and Joes," so I've tried not to criticize Mick's offense too much. I've felt that, aside from a few obvious standouts, his recruits have been just very limited, and any coach would have trouble getting them into a coherent offence.

This year was different, though. Mick plainly had the talent and choked with (on?) it. I now feel that he will find a way to muck things up no matter how much talent he happens to have on board in any given year. I know he can't be fired now, but how the fanbase carries on after this debacle is beyond me.

Needs to upgrade his staff IMO. Needs to get someone who is a quality X's and O's guy from an offensive standpoint. They do not have that on this current staff. Scrap one of the two "recruiters" and get someone in here who can run an offense.

(03-20-2018 01:51 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:14 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:03 PM)bearcat72 Wrote:  I agree with many comments on this board. My belief is that the teams "fear character" is instilled into them the entire season looking over their shoulder and getting pulled for one mistake by Cronin. I coached football for many years in high school and realized my teams took on my feelings. Too emotional, they were emotional, fear of being yanked for a mistake, made them play in hope they wouldn't make a mistake. Teams take on the personality of their coach and I think we saw it multiplied against Nevada. Cronin is uptight and extremely uptight in bigger games and the team plays that way against better opponents; ie; Xavier, Florida, Wichita St.. or against teams on the "bigger stage" NCAA round 2.

It was great season that just ended poorly. In fact when you look back at the last few games on the big stage, @Wichita, ACC tournament Houston, easily could've been loses if shots would've been made on the last possession.

Exactly. They got unbelievably uptight in the Wichita game in the last 3 minutes. It's the same thing we see time and time again against the good opponents. Build a 5-7 point lead and hold on for dear life down the stretch instead of continuing to play like they did for the first 35-37 minutes.

Our problem against Nevada down the stretch was two-fold.

First we played right into their hands when they decided to trap and play us 3 on 4 for several minutes by having our guards who are terrible shooters jack up wide open shots and miss everything.

Then as it got closer and closer both on the scoreboard and in time remaining we tightened up as always and started running down the shot clock with zero offensive movement and threw up contested outside shots as the shot clock expired.

They completely stopped running their offense, moving the ball and getting touches for our bigs over those last 11 minutes whether we were playing into their hands by going fast or when we started trying to play stall ball.

UC needed Leslie Nielsen from "The Naked Gun" in the midst of absolute mayhem on screen telling people, "Remain calm, nothing to see here, just move along."

There is no doubt in my mind when the coach is melting down as a lead evaporates it's neither focusing the players on the task at hand or reinforcing confidence that they can control their destiny rather than the officials or the opponent. Can that be a learned skill for a veteran coach? Not sure; maybe it's innate for some.

I just feel Mick is constantly in October/November mode. I get it when he is yelling and screaming or yanking players in the early games against Savannah State, trying to set a precedent and get them motivated. But in the heat of the battle he needs to cool down and learn how to guide them through this smoothly. I've never served in combat, but have listened and read alot from military people like Patton, Jocko Wilink, and McRaven , and this is generally the principle that is applied when you transition to bootcamp and training to actual war.

He needs to become more aware of situations and the situational coaching and the overall global purpose of what he is doing. 5 minutes to go in a tight NCAA tournament, is it really necessary to be yelling and screaming at 5th year senior that is doing everything he can to advance in the tournament?

(03-20-2018 02:07 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:51 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:14 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:03 PM)bearcat72 Wrote:  I agree with many comments on this board. My belief is that the teams "fear character" is instilled into them the entire season looking over their shoulder and getting pulled for one mistake by Cronin. I coached football for many years in high school and realized my teams took on my feelings. Too emotional, they were emotional, fear of being yanked for a mistake, made them play in hope they wouldn't make a mistake. Teams take on the personality of their coach and I think we saw it multiplied against Nevada. Cronin is uptight and extremely uptight in bigger games and the team plays that way against better opponents; ie; Xavier, Florida, Wichita St.. or against teams on the "bigger stage" NCAA round 2.

It was great season that just ended poorly. In fact when you look back at the last few games on the big stage, @Wichita, ACC tournament Houston, easily could've been loses if shots would've been made on the last possession.

Exactly. They got unbelievably uptight in the Wichita game in the last 3 minutes. It's the same thing we see time and time again against the good opponents. Build a 5-7 point lead and hold on for dear life down the stretch instead of continuing to play like they did for the first 35-37 minutes.

Our problem against Nevada down the stretch was two-fold.

First we played right into their hands when they decided to trap and play us 3 on 4 for several minutes by having our guards who are terrible shooters jack up wide open shots and miss everything.

Then as it got closer and closer both on the scoreboard and in time remaining we tightened up as always and started running down the shot clock with zero offensive movement and threw up contested outside shots as the shot clock expired.

They completely stopped running their offense, moving the ball and getting touches for our bigs over those last 11 minutes whether we were playing into their hands by going fast or when we started trying to play stall ball.

UC needed Leslie Nielsen from "The Naked Gun" in the midst of absolute mayhem on screen telling people, "Remain calm, nothing to see here, just move along."

There is no doubt in my mind when the coach is melting down as a lead evaporates it's neither focusing the players on the task at hand or reinforcing confidence that they can control their destiny rather than the officials or the opponent. Can that be a learned skill for a veteran coach? Not sure; maybe it's innate for some.

I just feel Mick is constantly in October/November mode. I get it when he is yelling and screaming or yanking players in the early games against Savannah State, trying to set a precedent and get them motivated. But in the heat of the battle he needs to cool down and learn how to guide them through this smoothly. I've never served in combat, but have listened and read alot from military people like Patton, Jocko Wilink, and McRaven , and this is generally the principle that is applied when you transition to bootcamp and training to actual war.

He needs to become more aware of situations and the situational coaching and the overall global purpose of what he is doing. 5 minutes to go in a tight NCAA tournament, is it really necessary to be yelling and screaming at 5th year senior that is doing everything he can to advance in the tournament?

+1000.

(03-20-2018 02:07 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:51 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:14 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:03 PM)bearcat72 Wrote:  I agree with many comments on this board. My belief is that the teams "fear character" is instilled into them the entire season looking over their shoulder and getting pulled for one mistake by Cronin. I coached football for many years in high school and realized my teams took on my feelings. Too emotional, they were emotional, fear of being yanked for a mistake, made them play in hope they wouldn't make a mistake. Teams take on the personality of their coach and I think we saw it multiplied against Nevada. Cronin is uptight and extremely uptight in bigger games and the team plays that way against better opponents; ie; Xavier, Florida, Wichita St.. or against teams on the "bigger stage" NCAA round 2.

It was great season that just ended poorly. In fact when you look back at the last few games on the big stage, @Wichita, ACC tournament Houston, easily could've been loses if shots would've been made on the last possession.

Exactly. They got unbelievably uptight in the Wichita game in the last 3 minutes. It's the same thing we see time and time again against the good opponents. Build a 5-7 point lead and hold on for dear life down the stretch instead of continuing to play like they did for the first 35-37 minutes.

Our problem against Nevada down the stretch was two-fold.

First we played right into their hands when they decided to trap and play us 3 on 4 for several minutes by having our guards who are terrible shooters jack up wide open shots and miss everything.

Then as it got closer and closer both on the scoreboard and in time remaining we tightened up as always and started running down the shot clock with zero offensive movement and threw up contested outside shots as the shot clock expired.

They completely stopped running their offense, moving the ball and getting touches for our bigs over those last 11 minutes whether we were playing into their hands by going fast or when we started trying to play stall ball.

UC needed Leslie Nielsen from "The Naked Gun" in the midst of absolute mayhem on screen telling people, "Remain calm, nothing to see here, just move along."

There is no doubt in my mind when the coach is melting down as a lead evaporates it's neither focusing the players on the task at hand or reinforcing confidence that they can control their destiny rather than the officials or the opponent. Can that be a learned skill for a veteran coach? Not sure; maybe it's innate for some.

I just feel Mick is constantly in October/November mode. I get it when he is yelling and screaming or yanking players in the early games against Savannah State, trying to set a precedent and get them motivated. But in the heat of the battle he needs to cool down and learn how to guide them through this smoothly. I've never served in combat, but have listened and read alot from military people like Patton, Jocko Wilink, and McRaven , and this is generally the principle that is applied when you transition to bootcamp and training to actual war.

He needs to become more aware of situations and the situational coaching and the overall global purpose of what he is doing. 5 minutes to go in a tight NCAA tournament, is it really necessary to be yelling and screaming at 5th year senior that is doing everything he can to advance in the tournament?

Players always looking to the bench for instructions drives me nuts. A well-coached team should know exactly what they're supposed to run. Rhythm and flow is so important in basketball, especially on offense, and it just goes completely out the window when the game is being micromanaged from the bench by a screaming maniac who has the players scared to play for fear of being yelled at or benched.

(03-20-2018 02:31 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 02:07 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:51 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:14 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:03 PM)bearcat72 Wrote:  I agree with many comments on this board. My belief is that the teams "fear character" is instilled into them the entire season looking over their shoulder and getting pulled for one mistake by Cronin. I coached football for many years in high school and realized my teams took on my feelings. Too emotional, they were emotional, fear of being yanked for a mistake, made them play in hope they wouldn't make a mistake. Teams take on the personality of their coach and I think we saw it multiplied against Nevada. Cronin is uptight and extremely uptight in bigger games and the team plays that way against better opponents; ie; Xavier, Florida, Wichita St.. or against teams on the "bigger stage" NCAA round 2.

It was great season that just ended poorly. In fact when you look back at the last few games on the big stage, @Wichita, ACC tournament Houston, easily could've been loses if shots would've been made on the last possession.

Exactly. They got unbelievably uptight in the Wichita game in the last 3 minutes. It's the same thing we see time and time again against the good opponents. Build a 5-7 point lead and hold on for dear life down the stretch instead of continuing to play like they did for the first 35-37 minutes.

Our problem against Nevada down the stretch was two-fold.

First we played right into their hands when they decided to trap and play us 3 on 4 for several minutes by having our guards who are terrible shooters jack up wide open shots and miss everything.

Then as it got closer and closer both on the scoreboard and in time remaining we tightened up as always and started running down the shot clock with zero offensive movement and threw up contested outside shots as the shot clock expired.

They completely stopped running their offense, moving the ball and getting touches for our bigs over those last 11 minutes whether we were playing into their hands by going fast or when we started trying to play stall ball.

UC needed Leslie Nielsen from "The Naked Gun" in the midst of absolute mayhem on screen telling people, "Remain calm, nothing to see here, just move along."

There is no doubt in my mind when the coach is melting down as a lead evaporates it's neither focusing the players on the task at hand or reinforcing confidence that they can control their destiny rather than the officials or the opponent. Can that be a learned skill for a veteran coach? Not sure; maybe it's innate for some.

I just feel Mick is constantly in October/November mode. I get it when he is yelling and screaming or yanking players in the early games against Savannah State, trying to set a precedent and get them motivated. But in the heat of the battle he needs to cool down and learn how to guide them through this smoothly. I've never served in combat, but have listened and read alot from military people like Patton, Jocko Wilink, and McRaven , and this is generally the principle that is applied when you transition to bootcamp and training to actual war.

He needs to become more aware of situations and the situational coaching and the overall global purpose of what he is doing. 5 minutes to go in a tight NCAA tournament, is it really necessary to be yelling and screaming at 5th year senior that is doing everything he can to advance in the tournament?

Players always looking to the bench for instructions drives me nuts. A well-coached team should know exactly what they're supposed to run. Rhythm and flow is so important in basketball, especially on offense, and it just goes completely out the window when the game's is being micromanaged from the bench by a screaming maniac who has the players scared to play for fear of being yelled at or benched.

Absolutely!

(03-20-2018 02:31 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 02:07 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:51 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:14 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 01:03 PM)bearcat72 Wrote:  I agree with many comments on this board. My belief is that the teams "fear character" is instilled into them the entire season looking over their shoulder and getting pulled for one mistake by Cronin. I coached football for many years in high school and realized my teams took on my feelings. Too emotional, they were emotional, fear of being yanked for a mistake, made them play in hope they wouldn't make a mistake. Teams take on the personality of their coach and I think we saw it multiplied against Nevada. Cronin is uptight and extremely uptight in bigger games and the team plays that way against better opponents; ie; Xavier, Florida, Wichita St.. or against teams on the "bigger stage" NCAA round 2.

It was great season that just ended poorly. In fact when you look back at the last few games on the big stage, @Wichita, ACC tournament Houston, easily could've been loses if shots would've been made on the last possession.

Exactly. They got unbelievably uptight in the Wichita game in the last 3 minutes. It's the same thing we see time and time again against the good opponents. Build a 5-7 point lead and hold on for dear life down the stretch instead of continuing to play like they did for the first 35-37 minutes.

Our problem against Nevada down the stretch was two-fold.

First we played right into their hands when they decided to trap and play us 3 on 4 for several minutes by having our guards who are terrible shooters jack up wide open shots and miss everything.

Then as it got closer and closer both on the scoreboard and in time remaining we tightened up as always and started running down the shot clock with zero offensive movement and threw up contested outside shots as the shot clock expired.

They completely stopped running their offense, moving the ball and getting touches for our bigs over those last 11 minutes whether we were playing into their hands by going fast or when we started trying to play stall ball.

UC needed Leslie Nielsen from "The Naked Gun" in the midst of absolute mayhem on screen telling people, "Remain calm, nothing to see here, just move along."

There is no doubt in my mind when the coach is melting down as a lead evaporates it's neither focusing the players on the task at hand or reinforcing confidence that they can control their destiny rather than the officials or the opponent. Can that be a learned skill for a veteran coach? Not sure; maybe it's innate for some.

I just feel Mick is constantly in October/November mode. I get it when he is yelling and screaming or yanking players in the early games against Savannah State, trying to set a precedent and get them motivated. But in the heat of the battle he needs to cool down and learn how to guide them through this smoothly. I've never served in combat, but have listened and read alot from military people like Patton, Jocko Wilink, and McRaven , and this is generally the principle that is applied when you transition to bootcamp and training to actual war.

He needs to become more aware of situations and the situational coaching and the overall global purpose of what he is doing. 5 minutes to go in a tight NCAA tournament, is it really necessary to be yelling and screaming at 5th year senior that is doing everything he can to advance in the tournament?

Players always looking to the bench for instructions drives me nuts. A well-coached team should know exactly what they're supposed to run. Rhythm and flow is so important in basketball, especially on offense, and it just goes completely out the window when the game's is being micromanaged from the bench by a screaming maniac who has the players scared to play for fear of being yelled at or benched.

Yep. It really translates to anything else you want to apply it to in life. Like I said earlier, very similar with the military. Do you want your soldiers constantly thinking about what their squad leader wants them to do when they are under fire? Or in the work place, a good boss knows how to set his players up and give them information they need, but can let them handle themselves under pressure. How much yelling and screaming do you remember Phil Jackson or Pop do? Even Coach K and Cal, start to to ease off on their players as the season progresses.

(03-19-2018 01:04 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  The last possession was very poor, but I think the one before that where Evans forced up a shot to get the 2 for 1 situation might have been a worse possession.

At the very least I figured he'd pull up from 10...can't believe he tried to fight with the big guys.

Biggest problem was the rebounding letting us down in the later stages. I think they had 4ORebs during their run (including one on the winning possession) and our work on the offensive glass started throttling down.

All of this. Evans completely disappeared on the offensive end down the stretch. Despite being trapped/doubled at times he still had some easy looks and missed everything. Same with everyone else who put up a shot in the final 10 minutes.

Like Mark said rebounding went out the window when we fells into Nevada's trap of letting the game turn into pickup ball. They left our bad shooters wide open and didn't even bother to account for them and those guys started jacking up shots and unsurprisingly they couldn't make any.

I just can't get over the fact that Musselman even said in his post-game, the last 10 minutes they decided to trap/double Evans and were fine playing 3 on 4 against the rest of the team and UC was totally unable to take advantage of that. Instead of running an offense to exploit that UC just tried to run down the shot clock and let one of the bad shooters jack up a shot. It just shows how poorly UC has done in recruiting and landing guys who can hit shots from the outside.

Or one could conclude that Mick was unable to make any adjustments after Nevada started to double Evans. Whoever had the ball with 5 seconds to go on the shot clock, usually either Evans or Washington, would just throw up a prayer. With each miss, the confidence started to evaporate. It was hold on and hope the game would end before Nevada caught up. Unfortunately, UC had no game plan to get another man open if Evans was going to be doubled. And we had no other trustworthy ballhandlers and crunch time shooters, especially after Cumberland fouled out. We waited all year for Broome to be effective in that role, and, unfortunately, he proved not to be.

Mick let his players play as loose as he has ever let team play. he actually let them play nba game. for 30 min he was working perfect. Mick has to up recruiting and start getting 1-2 or worst best players off top aau teams. When the game got close our STAR players had no idea to play without Mick. Washington go up for dunk instead of trying hook shot layup, cumberland don't pick up his 5th foul and I really believe Mick call TO after that play get Cumberland out, also get his defensive lineup in game. He STILL went against his OWN grain and went with the FAN favorites Washington and broome to finish.That combo allowed at least 17-19 of the 22 comeback. Mick go with he's famous for, stall ball and defense, he walking easy into elite 8. I can't believe he went against his own grain. You really can't blame. I guarantee 100% if he take washington for scott and put JJ back in over Moore we win game by 10? Game plan would've been to just feed Clark every play. They had to start fouling soon.

(03-20-2018 04:10 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 01:04 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  The last possession was very poor, but I think the one before that where Evans forced up a shot to get the 2 for 1 situation might have been a worse possession.

At the very least I figured he'd pull up from 10...can't believe he tried to fight with the big guys.

Biggest problem was the rebounding letting us down in the later stages. I think they had 4ORebs during their run (including one on the winning possession) and our work on the offensive glass started throttling down.

All of this. Evans completely disappeared on the offensive end down the stretch. Despite being trapped/doubled at times he still had some easy looks and missed everything. Same with everyone else who put up a shot in the final 10 minutes.

Like Mark said rebounding went out the window when we fells into Nevada's trap of letting the game turn into pickup ball. They left our bad shooters wide open and didn't even bother to account for them and those guys started jacking up shots and unsurprisingly they couldn't make any.

I just can't get over the fact that Musselman even said in his post-game, the last 10 minutes they decided to trap/double Evans and were fine playing 3 on 4 against the rest of the team and UC was totally unable to take advantage of that. Instead of running an offense to exploit that UC just tried to run down the shot clock and let one of the bad shooters jack up a shot. It just shows how poorly UC has done in recruiting and landing guys who can hit shots from the outside.

Or one could conclude that Mick was unable to make any adjustments after Nevada started to double Evans. Whoever had the ball with 5 seconds to go on the shot clock, usually either Evans or Washington, would just throw up a prayer. With each miss, the confidence started to evaporate. It was hold on and hope the game would end before Nevada caught up. Unfortunately, UC had no game plan to get another man open if Evans was going to be doubled. And we had no other trustworthy ballhandlers and crunch time shooters, especially after Cumberland fouled out. We waited all year for Broome to be effective in that role, and, unfortunately, he proved not to be.

We was up 8 when Cumberland get his 4th.

5:12 next play on D. Ref missed either a travel or jump ball on hall.(ball hit bottom of backboard still in hand and he came back down) he scored up WE 6.

4:56 broome come down shoots jumper with 20sec on clock. clark gets offensive rebound

4:31 Evans gets scared on drive. turns it over trying pass to Clark. 10 sec was on clock

4:26 cumberland almost comes up with steal in back court.

4:18 hall got open underneath for easy layup. clark come block him from behind

4:06 cumberland dishes to washington for easy DUNK. he misses the LAYUP. 20sec on clock

4:04 cumberland fouls out going after miss

3:53 martin takes broome off dribble for layup and moore fouled him. he make free throw. 3pt game

3:50 evans passes into Clark. broome and evans forget their the guards and almost leave clark in backcourt

3:37 mick screams at broome to hurry up. 15 sec on clock

3:24 evans get in lane and shoots up a brick. 3sec on clock

2:39 broome gets into lane for easy layup. got scared and tried pass to washington. it was deflected and broome got ball back and got fouled. 10 sec was on clock. make both free throws. we up 5

2:39 scott replaces moore

2:19 wolf pack turn it over.

2:19 moore replaces scott

2:04 broome get offensive foul

2:04 scott replaces broome

1:49 caroline gets offenseive rebound over broome. easy layup. 3 bigs was in game

BRUTAL NEXT POSSESSION. with 2 TO. Mick leaves scott in game.

1:17 after horrible spacing. evans force shoot long 2pt. clanks it.

:55 washington forcefully pushes broome out on a switch. martin drills 3pt in washington face and was really fouled on play. tie ball game

:47 mick calls TO

:40 we go 2for1. evans just shot ball because play was drawn up for him shoot(ymca level). horrible miss

:12 clark doesnt boss out hall gets offensive rebound.

:10 washington lets hall make layup right in his face without jumping.

NOTE- washington didnt jump on caroline rebound, martin 3 or hall layup.

:09 clark passes into broome. evans ask clark why he didnt give him ball. broome races down court and get screen from washington. looking at it again. it was tie ball game broome doesnt dribble off leg. he had easy layup

:00 game over

washington had no business in game at all. I wouldve went with JJ over Moore. more on players than mick.

Today's WSJ has an article on how important the 3 ball has been in the tournament. IMO lack of pure shooters is a consistent characteristic of our teams. Cobb was an exception.