The unofficial online home for fans of the University of Cincinnati Bearcats. Part of Collegiate Sports Nation (CSN).

You leave the game in the hands of Cane Broome? Unbelievable. JE3 disappearing act was quite astonishing down the stretch. I think the leaving early talk has to be gone right?

(03-18-2018 07:58 PM)jarr Wrote:  You leave the game in the hands of Cane Broome? Unbelievable. JE3 disappearing act was quite astonishing down the stretch. I think the leaving early talk has to be gone right?

it looked like cane was supposed to get to that point and dump it off. but nobody was open. not sure what the full design was.

(03-18-2018 08:01 PM)CallMeSlim Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 07:58 PM)jarr Wrote:  You leave the game in the hands of Cane Broome? Unbelievable. JE3 disappearing act was quite astonishing down the stretch. I think the leaving early talk has to be gone right?

it looked like cane was supposed to get to that point and dump it off. but nobody was open. not sure what the full design was.

He dribbled the ball off the leg of one of the defenders and had to track it down. By then, they had collapsed on him.

The last possession was very poor, but I think the one before that where Evans forced up a shot to get the 2 for 1 situation might have been a worse possession.

(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  The last possession was very poor, but I think the one before that where Evans forced up a shot to get the 2 for 1 situation might have been a worse possession.

At the very least I figured he'd pull up from 10...can't believe he tried to fight with the big guys.

Biggest problem was the rebounding letting us down in the later stages. I think they had 4ORebs during their run (including one on the winning possession) and our work on the offensive glass started throttling down.

(03-18-2018 08:01 PM)CallMeSlim Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 07:58 PM)jarr Wrote:  You leave the game in the hands of Cane Broome? Unbelievable. JE3 disappearing act was quite astonishing down the stretch. I think the leaving early talk has to be gone right?

it looked like cane was supposed to get to that point and dump it off. but nobody was open. not sure what the full design was.

Broome was the only one down there. He got there so fast all the other Bearcats were lagging behind.

(03-19-2018 12:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  The last possession was very poor, but I think the one before that where Evans forced up a shot to get the 2 for 1 situation might have been a worse possession.

At the very least I figured he'd pull up from 10...can't believe he tried to fight with the big guys.

Biggest problem was the rebounding letting us down in the later stages. I think they had 4ORebs during their run (including one on the winning possession) and our work on the offensive glass started throttling down.

Great point. We stopped rebounding and they did a better job rebounding on the defensive end. Plus we stopped shooting lights out and they got hot. Bad combo no matter who you're playing.

(03-19-2018 12:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  The last possession was very poor, but I think the one before that where Evans forced up a shot to get the 2 for 1 situation might have been a worse possession.

At the very least I figured he'd pull up from 10...can't believe he tried to fight with the big guys.

Biggest problem was the rebounding letting us down in the later stages. I think they had 4ORebs during their run (including one on the winning possession) and our work on the offensive glass started throttling down.

I've said it in a couple threads, but I think the difference in our rebounding was almost entirely a function of us allowing the game to become pick up basketball the last 12 minutes. We let Nevada dictate how we played offense...stopped running our stuff and as a result our guys weren't in the rebounding position they had been in all game. Additionally, we weren't in position on defense and allowed them to play their free style game instead of working hard for difficult shots. By getting us scrambling it opened things up for them on the glass... just a total failure to stick with what had built them the huge lead.

Nevada was bound to make a few runs. They have scoring wings that make plays. They made a couple first half runs, but each time UC stuck with the gameplan and executed. They stayed in position on defense and continued to make Nevada work for difficult shots. When Nevada made run down 22, UC panicked and got out of what they had done all game. Just brutal in every way.

I don't blame Broome and I don't blame Cronin for giving him the ball to get down the court. It looked like to me everyone else just froze and left him hanging.

(03-19-2018 12:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  The last possession was very poor, but I think the one before that where Evans forced up a shot to get the 2 for 1 situation might have been a worse possession.

At the very least I figured he'd pull up from 10...can't believe he tried to fight with the big guys.

Biggest problem was the rebounding letting us down in the later stages. I think they had 4ORebs during their run (including one on the winning possession) and our work on the offensive glass started throttling down.

All of this. Evans completely disappeared on the offensive end down the stretch. Despite being trapped/doubled at times he still had some easy looks and missed everything. Same with everyone else who put up a shot in the final 10 minutes.

Like Mark said rebounding went out the window when we fells into Nevada's trap of letting the game turn into pickup ball. They left our bad shooters wide open and didn't even bother to account for them and those guys started jacking up shots and unsurprisingly they couldn't make any.

I just can't get over the fact that Musselman even said in his post-game, the last 10 minutes they decided to trap/double Evans and were fine playing 3 on 4 against the rest of the team and UC was totally unable to take advantage of that. Instead of running an offense to exploit that UC just tried to run down the shot clock and let one of the bad shooters jack up a shot. It just shows how poorly UC has done in recruiting and landing guys who can hit shots from the outside.

(03-19-2018 01:04 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  The last possession was very poor, but I think the one before that where Evans forced up a shot to get the 2 for 1 situation might have been a worse possession.

At the very least I figured he'd pull up from 10...can't believe he tried to fight with the big guys.

Biggest problem was the rebounding letting us down in the later stages. I think they had 4ORebs during their run (including one on the winning possession) and our work on the offensive glass started throttling down.

All of this. Evans completely disappeared on the offensive end down the stretch. Despite being trapped/doubled at times he had some easy looks and missed everything. Same with everyone else who put up a shot in the final 10 minutes. I just can't get over the fact that Musselman even said in his post-game, the last 10 minutes they decided to trap/double Evans and play 3 on 4 against the rest of the team and UC could not take advantage of that. It just shows how poorly UC has done in recruiting and landing guys who can hit shots from the outside.

That;s exactly what they did and it caused UC to panic and play quickly instead of using it to their advantage to get guys the ball inside and to crash the glass. If Evans is getting doubled you have to get paint touches and you have get offensive rebounds on your misses. They sped us up and really made Broome make a lot of decisions.

(03-19-2018 01:08 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 01:04 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  The last possession was very poor, but I think the one before that where Evans forced up a shot to get the 2 for 1 situation might have been a worse possession.

At the very least I figured he'd pull up from 10...can't believe he tried to fight with the big guys.

Biggest problem was the rebounding letting us down in the later stages. I think they had 4ORebs during their run (including one on the winning possession) and our work on the offensive glass started throttling down.

All of this. Evans completely disappeared on the offensive end down the stretch. Despite being trapped/doubled at times he had some easy looks and missed everything. Same with everyone else who put up a shot in the final 10 minutes. I just can't get over the fact that Musselman even said in his post-game, the last 10 minutes they decided to trap/double Evans and play 3 on 4 against the rest of the team and UC could not take advantage of that. It just shows how poorly UC has done in recruiting and landing guys who can hit shots from the outside.

That;s exactly what they did and it caused UC to panic and play quickly instead of using it to their advantage to get guys the ball inside and to crash the glass. If Evans is getting doubled you have to get paint touches and you have get offensive rebounds on your misses. They sped us up and really made Broome make a lot of decisions.

Exactly. They exploited our two biggest weaknesses by doing that. Our poor outside shooting and our poorly run/executed offense. Both Broome and Jennifer were brutal down the stretch. Jennifer bricked a layup and missed several completely wide open/uncovered jump shots, so he goes out, Broome comes in and looks completely lost and hesitant. Biggest weakness on this team all year has been PG play and it showed and it's why the season's over.

No adjustments either. It boggles the mind that they couldn't talk this over and exploit it after a time out.

(03-19-2018 01:08 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 01:04 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  The last possession was very poor, but I think the one before that where Evans forced up a shot to get the 2 for 1 situation might have been a worse possession.

At the very least I figured he'd pull up from 10...can't believe he tried to fight with the big guys.

Biggest problem was the rebounding letting us down in the later stages. I think they had 4ORebs during their run (including one on the winning possession) and our work on the offensive glass started throttling down.

All of this. Evans completely disappeared on the offensive end down the stretch. Despite being trapped/doubled at times he had some easy looks and missed everything. Same with everyone else who put up a shot in the final 10 minutes. I just can't get over the fact that Musselman even said in his post-game, the last 10 minutes they decided to trap/double Evans and play 3 on 4 against the rest of the team and UC could not take advantage of that. It just shows how poorly UC has done in recruiting and landing guys who can hit shots from the outside.

That;s exactly what they did and it caused UC to panic and play quickly instead of using it to their advantage to get guys the ball inside and to crash the glass. If Evans is getting doubled you have to get paint touches and you have get offensive rebounds on your misses. They sped us up and really made Broome make a lot of decisions.

Hell, if you look at the time when we were up 22 and apply a 50% shooting clip for Nevada on possessions...if we took a shot clock violation on every one of our possessions and get every defensive rebound from a miss I really don't think they would've been able to make up the difference over 10 minutes. That's the saddest part of all of this...we literally didn't need to do anything and we would've won.

(03-19-2018 01:27 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 01:08 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 01:04 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  The last possession was very poor, but I think the one before that where Evans forced up a shot to get the 2 for 1 situation might have been a worse possession.

At the very least I figured he'd pull up from 10...can't believe he tried to fight with the big guys.

Biggest problem was the rebounding letting us down in the later stages. I think they had 4ORebs during their run (including one on the winning possession) and our work on the offensive glass started throttling down.

All of this. Evans completely disappeared on the offensive end down the stretch. Despite being trapped/doubled at times he had some easy looks and missed everything. Same with everyone else who put up a shot in the final 10 minutes. I just can't get over the fact that Musselman even said in his post-game, the last 10 minutes they decided to trap/double Evans and play 3 on 4 against the rest of the team and UC could not take advantage of that. It just shows how poorly UC has done in recruiting and landing guys who can hit shots from the outside.

That;s exactly what they did and it caused UC to panic and play quickly instead of using it to their advantage to get guys the ball inside and to crash the glass. If Evans is getting doubled you have to get paint touches and you have get offensive rebounds on your misses. They sped us up and really made Broome make a lot of decisions.

Hell, if you look at the time when we were up 22 and apply a 50% shooting clip for Nevada on possessions...if we took a shot clock violation on every one of our possessions and get every defensive rebound from a miss I really don't think they would've been able to make up the difference over 10 minutes. That's the saddest part of all of this...we literally didn't need to do anything and we would've won.

You are absolutely correct. I was actually thinking that during the game yesterday.

(03-19-2018 01:27 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 01:08 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 01:04 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  The last possession was very poor, but I think the one before that where Evans forced up a shot to get the 2 for 1 situation might have been a worse possession.

At the very least I figured he'd pull up from 10...can't believe he tried to fight with the big guys.

Biggest problem was the rebounding letting us down in the later stages. I think they had 4ORebs during their run (including one on the winning possession) and our work on the offensive glass started throttling down.

All of this. Evans completely disappeared on the offensive end down the stretch. Despite being trapped/doubled at times he had some easy looks and missed everything. Same with everyone else who put up a shot in the final 10 minutes. I just can't get over the fact that Musselman even said in his post-game, the last 10 minutes they decided to trap/double Evans and play 3 on 4 against the rest of the team and UC could not take advantage of that. It just shows how poorly UC has done in recruiting and landing guys who can hit shots from the outside.

That;s exactly what they did and it caused UC to panic and play quickly instead of using it to their advantage to get guys the ball inside and to crash the glass. If Evans is getting doubled you have to get paint touches and you have get offensive rebounds on your misses. They sped us up and really made Broome make a lot of decisions.

Hell, if you look at the time when we were up 22 and apply a 50% shooting clip for Nevada on possessions...if we took a shot clock violation on every one of our possessions and get every defensive rebound from a miss I really don't think they would've been able to make up the difference over 10 minutes. That's the saddest part of all of this...we literally didn't need to do anything and we would've won.

Yup... exactly my point. We let Nevada speed us up and turn it into pickup basketball. They have guys suited for that scramble and needed us to play out of character to win. We played into their hands for no reason. Again..up 22 with 11 minutes left...we take a shot late in the shot clock with guys in rebounding position and we make them play in the half court on defense we probably don't even need to score to win.

it wasn't just long shots but UC missed layups and 5 footers. Happens alot to UC over the years, even Huggins era. What's the answer? do you want CRONIN' s staff to cheat and bring in one and dones? end up seeing many players arrested off campus? i believe that eventually all of this will even out and UC will start getting some breaks sometime in the future. Cronin is doing a lot of things right. Why upset the egg basket? Keep suppoting UC and someday it will pay off.
then again, some of the fans in here will probably complain that UC isn't in 8 final fours in a row when that happens.


Sent from my RCT6513W87 using CSNbbs mobile app

(03-20-2018 11:27 AM)bearcat54 Wrote:  it wasn't just long shots but UC missed layups and 5 footers. Happens alot to UC over the years, even Huggins era. What's the answer? do you want CRONIN' s staff to cheat and bring in one and dones? end up seeing many players arrested off campus? i believe that eventually all of this will even out and UC will start getting some breaks sometime in the future. Cronin is doing a lot of things right. Why upset the egg basket? Keep suppoting UC and someday it will pay off.
then again, some of the fans in here will probably complain that UC isn't in 8 final fours in a row when that happens.


Sent from my RCT6513W87 using CSNbbs mobile app

Sent from my RCT6513W87 using CSNbbs mobile app

Everything said on these last two pages point to one thing and one thing only.....

(03-20-2018 11:48 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  Everything said on these last two pages point to one thing and one thing only.....

That we were out-coached ?