(03-05-2018 06:05 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 05:57 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 04:06 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  John Martin Verified account
@JohnMartin929
1 hour ago
Keelon Lawson said on the show just now that he's hearing from people close to the University of Memphis program that a coaching move could still be made.

I don't believe it. Tubby may have to change some assistants.

Tubby wants OUT!

I will carry his luggage for him.

Say when.

(03-05-2018 03:35 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(03-04-2018 11:25 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-04-2018 11:10 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 01:40 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 01:23 PM)450bench Wrote:  Just an opinion.
Penny solves attendance, excitement and recruiting voids immediately.
Those points make any risks of his hiring diminish.

There are at least a dozen better options that don't involve the risk of hiring a former Tiger great and hometown hero with ZERO college coaching experience, much less college head coaching experience.

Names?

Keeping in mind they would have to be affordable as we pay off another coach.
Agreeable to coming into a program which has run off 2 coaches in 3 years - including one well-respected.
Willing to take on a rebuild.
Under the radar - as we're in no position to get in a bidding war with the power conferences.

I am open to other possibilities - been saying Majerle for years. But let's be real.

Well we've gone from one extreme to another. Too young, inexperience 3rd assistant to too old, game passed by, over the hill grumpy grandpa.

How about something in the middle? A current mid-major D1 head coach with 4-8 years of head coaching experience who is dynamic, energetic, and been successful in building that level of program. Would prefer the program to be located in a major urban area in the southeast so that there would be that parallel. Current salary under $800,000 (probably actually in the $300k to $600k range so that a starting salary of $800k to $1,000,000 a year will represent a tidy little raise.

Forbes immediately comes to mind. MTSU Coach worth a look. There's two and I didn't even leave the state of Tennessee.

Saying there are a dozen viable choices is probably an undersell.

I know the love affair with Forbes here. He does seem to fit the bill. Except for the show cause on his resume - not sure if that's a deal breaker these days or not. He won't energize the fan base from day 1. It will be a slower process to get fans back. But it's possible. If we don't have to outbid other P5's to get him.

Kermit? No thanks. He's having some success at MTSU...now. But it's been a slow build. No way we have the patience for a similar 10-year plan. Plus, he's not really the up-comer and 56 years old.

So you have one possible - and the most obvious. Who are the other 11+? As I said, I'm open - but want to keep it real.

Do you ever do your own work or do you sit back demand others do the heavy lifting? You need to get out more.

TIER A: (In no particular order)

Steve Forbes - ETSU
Eric Musselman - Nevada
Danny Hurley – Rhode Island
Marvin Menzies – UNLV
Chris Jans – New Mexico State
Leon Rice – Boise State

TIER B: (In no particular order)

Damon Stoudamire - Pacific (I hesitated to put him here but.....)
Dan Majerle – Grand Canyon
Earl Grant – College of Charleston
Rodney Terry – Fresno State
Pat Kelsey – Winthrop
Lamont Smith – San Diego
Matt McCall – UMass
Allen Edwards – Wyoming
Matt McMahon – Murray State

TIER C: (Would really not like to get here)

Andy Kennedy – Available!
Anthony Grant - Dayton
Jeff Capel – Duke assistant
Darris Nichols – Florida assistant
Tommy Lloyd – Gonzaga assistant
Travis Steele – Xavier assistant
Ron Sanchez – Virginia assistant

WILDCARDS:

Tom Crean
Bruce Pearl

There are certainly plenty of others if you really want to roll up your sleeves and go to work.

Oh, and with all the built in advantages at Memphis Kermit could probably work a little quicker especially since he's already built a solid winning reputation now.....

(03-02-2018 10:55 AM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  Now (or rather, after the conference tournament) is the perfect time to cut ties with Coach Smith.

Next season, whoever we bring in, will at least have a fighting chance of a decent season with our JUCO heavy roster.

If we wait another year, we will be bringing in a coach with an absolutely imploded roster. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. It also makes the job much less desirable. At least we have some pieces in place that can be complimented by someone with a sustainable recruiting plan.

Also, we can get a jump on the coaching carousel that may happen if/when the FBI investigation goes public.

The Forum will be EMPTY next year if he is retained.

Strike while the iron is hot!

Do you have $10 million hanging around to cover the buy out?

(03-05-2018 07:09 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 10:55 AM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  Now (or rather, after the conference tournament) is the perfect time to cut ties with Coach Smith.

Next season, whoever we bring in, will at least have a fighting chance of a decent season with our JUCO heavy roster.

If we wait another year, we will be bringing in a coach with an absolutely imploded roster. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. It also makes the job much less desirable. At least we have some pieces in place that can be complimented by someone with a sustainable recruiting plan.

Also, we can get a jump on the coaching carousel that may happen if/when the FBI investigation goes public.

The Forum will be EMPTY next year if he is retained.

Strike while the iron is hot!

Do you have $10 million hanging around to cover the buy out?

Wrong question. Tubby's salary is covered. It's the money for the new coach you're looking for........

(03-05-2018 07:11 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:09 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 10:55 AM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  Now (or rather, after the conference tournament) is the perfect time to cut ties with Coach Smith.

Next season, whoever we bring in, will at least have a fighting chance of a decent season with our JUCO heavy roster.

If we wait another year, we will be bringing in a coach with an absolutely imploded roster. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. It also makes the job much less desirable. At least we have some pieces in place that can be complimented by someone with a sustainable recruiting plan.

Also, we can get a jump on the coaching carousel that may happen if/when the FBI investigation goes public.

The Forum will be EMPTY next year if he is retained.

Strike while the iron is hot!

Do you have $10 million hanging around to cover the buy out?

Wrong question. Tubby's salary is covered. It's the money for the new coach you're looking for........

Who is paying $10 million to buy out Tubby and WHY?

(03-05-2018 07:24 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:11 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:09 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 10:55 AM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  Now (or rather, after the conference tournament) is the perfect time to cut ties with Coach Smith.

Next season, whoever we bring in, will at least have a fighting chance of a decent season with our JUCO heavy roster.

If we wait another year, we will be bringing in a coach with an absolutely imploded roster. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. It also makes the job much less desirable. At least we have some pieces in place that can be complimented by someone with a sustainable recruiting plan.

Also, we can get a jump on the coaching carousel that may happen if/when the FBI investigation goes public.

The Forum will be EMPTY next year if he is retained.

Strike while the iron is hot!

Do you have $10 million hanging around to cover the buy out?

Wrong question. Tubby's salary is covered. It's the money for the new coach you're looking for........

Who is paying $10 million to buy out Tubby and WHY?

Who? The guys who pay his salary

Why? Because they want a new coach (if that is indeed the case)

(03-05-2018 07:42 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:24 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:11 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:09 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 10:55 AM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  Now (or rather, after the conference tournament) is the perfect time to cut ties with Coach Smith.

Next season, whoever we bring in, will at least have a fighting chance of a decent season with our JUCO heavy roster.

If we wait another year, we will be bringing in a coach with an absolutely imploded roster. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. It also makes the job much less desirable. At least we have some pieces in place that can be complimented by someone with a sustainable recruiting plan.

Also, we can get a jump on the coaching carousel that may happen if/when the FBI investigation goes public.

The Forum will be EMPTY next year if he is retained.

Strike while the iron is hot!

Do you have $10 million hanging around to cover the buy out?

Wrong question. Tubby's salary is covered. It's the money for the new coach you're looking for........

Who is paying $10 million to buy out Tubby and WHY?

Who? The guys who pay his salary

Why? Because they want a new coach (if that is indeed the case)

I think, instead of paying $10 million, I would wait and see what we have coming back next year, who else is in this years recruiting class and how we do in the tournament.

(03-05-2018 07:24 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:11 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:09 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 10:55 AM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  Now (or rather, after the conference tournament) is the perfect time to cut ties with Coach Smith.

Next season, whoever we bring in, will at least have a fighting chance of a decent season with our JUCO heavy roster.

If we wait another year, we will be bringing in a coach with an absolutely imploded roster. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. It also makes the job much less desirable. At least we have some pieces in place that can be complimented by someone with a sustainable recruiting plan.

Also, we can get a jump on the coaching carousel that may happen if/when the FBI investigation goes public.

The Forum will be EMPTY next year if he is retained.

Strike while the iron is hot!

Do you have $10 million hanging around to cover the buy out?

Wrong question. Tubby's salary is covered. It's the money for the new coach you're looking for........

Who is paying $10 million to buy out Tubby and WHY?

His salary is already accounted for. The only new money needed would be for the new coach's salary.

(03-05-2018 08:00 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:42 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:24 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:11 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:09 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Do you have $10 million hanging around to cover the buy out?

Wrong question. Tubby's salary is covered. It's the money for the new coach you're looking for........

Who is paying $10 million to buy out Tubby and WHY?

Who? The guys who pay his salary

Why? Because they want a new coach (if that is indeed the case)

I think, instead of paying $10 million, I would wait and see what we have coming back next year, who else is in this years recruiting class and how we do in the tournament.

What tournament? The AAC tournament?

(03-05-2018 08:00 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:42 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:24 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:11 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 07:09 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Do you have $10 million hanging around to cover the buy out?

Wrong question. Tubby's salary is covered. It's the money for the new coach you're looking for........

Who is paying $10 million to buy out Tubby and WHY?

Who? The guys who pay his salary

Why? Because they want a new coach (if that is indeed the case)

I think, instead of paying $10 million, I would wait and see what we have coming back next year, who else is in this years recruiting class and how we do in the tournament.

What are you waiting to see?

This guy was hired to be better than Pastner. Pastner got us to the tourney but we were not satisfied with that. This hire was suppose to take us to the next level. That is not happening. Worst attendance since 1969 too. Tubby better jump ship or he is getting fired next year.

(03-05-2018 04:06 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  John Martin Verified account
@JohnMartin929
1 hour ago
Keelon Lawson said on the show just now that he's hearing from people close to the University of Memphis program that a coaching move could still be made.

No **** sherlock, the season isnt over

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using CSNbbs mobile app

Penny has an ex head coach, a memphis player who is a coach now, and a high level recruiter in place ready to sign up.

(03-05-2018 09:47 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 04:06 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  John Martin Verified account
@JohnMartin929
1 hour ago
Keelon Lawson said on the show just now that he's hearing from people close to the University of Memphis program that a coaching move could still be made.

No **** sherlock, the season isnt over

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using CSNbbs mobile app

Does this mean he met with Gary Deep Throat Parrish in some parking garage at the UofM (closest Parish could get to an "inside" source)?

(03-05-2018 10:07 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 09:47 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 04:06 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  John Martin Verified account
@JohnMartin929
1 hour ago
Keelon Lawson said on the show just now that he's hearing from people close to the University of Memphis program that a coaching move could still be made.

No **** sherlock, the season isnt over

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using CSNbbs mobile app

Does this mean he met with Gary Deep Throat Parrish in some parking garage at the UofM (closest Parish could get to an "inside" source)?

Damn that was funny.... +3 no hating just sometimes things catch me off gaurd.

Thad Matta is a recruiting machine, but I cant remember why he left OSU.

(03-05-2018 10:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Thad Matta is a recruiting machine, but I cant remember why he left OSU.

Cited as health reasons.

(03-05-2018 10:20 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 10:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Thad Matta is a recruiting machine, but I cant remember why he left OSU.

Cited as health reasons.

Matta !!! people better have that extra cheese ... not sayin they dont but gotta be a boss to pay the cost, just dont think Thad would get those butts in seats and he aint
promoting machine. He just would not hit the right notes MHO ...

(03-05-2018 10:30 PM)MonsterTigerBlue Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 10:20 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 10:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Thad Matta is a recruiting machine, but I cant remember why he left OSU.

Cited as health reasons.

Matta !!! people better have that extra cheese ... not sayin they dont but gotta be a boss to pay the cost, just dont think Thad would get those butts in seats and he aint
promoting machine. He just would not hit the right notes MHO ...

Oh, it's a hell no for me.

I want Penny as our coach.

(03-05-2018 10:06 PM)macphil30 Wrote:  Penny has an ex head coach, a memphis player who is a coach now, and a high level recruiter in place ready to sign up.

Would be dyn-o-mite if it were Larry Brown

(03-05-2018 10:34 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 10:30 PM)MonsterTigerBlue Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 10:20 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(03-05-2018 10:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Thad Matta is a recruiting machine, but I cant remember why he left OSU.

Cited as health reasons.

Matta !!! people better have that extra cheese ... not sayin they dont but gotta be a boss to pay the cost, just dont think Thad would get those butts in seats and he aint
promoting machine. He just would not hit the right notes MHO ...

Oh, it's a hell no for me.

I want Penny as our coach.

I can see it !!! just hate it's such a double edged sword, Could be the move that would inject some new life , Tiger Fans are not known to be patient , it's a rough crowd !