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Jarr just as an example, MSU is 14th in RPI and just 3-4 vs the RPI Tier 1. They don't have the metrics committee likes. I think they'll be a 3 seed. Maybe a low 2. Could even see them as a 4.

(03-03-2018 04:23 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Jarr just as an example, MSU is 14th in RPI and just 3-4 vs the RPI Tier 1. They don't have the metrics committee likes. I think they'll be a 3 seed. Maybe a low 2. Could even see them as a 4.

Whoa, a 4? They still have some really good wins and won the B1G. I'll believe it when I see it, but I think they are a 2.

(03-03-2018 04:10 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Sparty losing really good for uc's 2 seed hopes. Their resume is very lacking

Are you adjusting that based on 2 more losses for UC?

(03-03-2018 04:31 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 04:10 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Sparty losing really good for uc's 2 seed hopes. Their resume is very lacking

Are you adjusting that based on 2 more losses for UC?

I think the assumption is if we win out, and go 30-4 we would be in line for a 2.

(03-03-2018 04:38 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 04:31 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 04:10 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Sparty losing really good for uc's 2 seed hopes. Their resume is very lacking

Are you adjusting that based on 2 more losses for UC?

I think the assumption is if we win out, and go 30-4 we would be in line for a 2.

Win tomorrow and make the conference tournament finals we'll be a 2

(03-03-2018 02:18 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I want UC to be the 2 seed in Xavier's region so badly.

but just not msu as the 3 please.

(03-03-2018 07:47 PM)CallMeSlim Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 02:18 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I want UC to be the 2 seed in Xavier's region so badly.

but just not msu as the 3 please.

Why not?

(03-03-2018 08:01 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 07:47 PM)CallMeSlim Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 02:18 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I want UC to be the 2 seed in Xavier's region so badly.

but just not msu as the 3 please.

Why not?

Just my opinion, I think MSU is the best all around team in the country and not a good matchup for us. Fancy metrics be damned.

(03-03-2018 08:07 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 08:01 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 07:47 PM)CallMeSlim Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 02:18 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I want UC to be the 2 seed in Xavier's region so badly.

but just not msu as the 3 please.

Why not?

Just my opinion, I think MSU is the best all around team in the country and not a good matchup for us. Fancy metrics be damned.

Why? They've played a garbage schedule and don't have much outside their starting 5 that we don't have. Bridges and Jackson are studs. As is the white kid who can shoot. But no one else on their team seems too great.

WVA and UK both got skull-dragged...neither should be ranked and I've said it for weeks.

KU got trucked!

(03-03-2018 08:07 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 08:01 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 07:47 PM)CallMeSlim Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 02:18 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I want UC to be the 2 seed in Xavier's region so badly.

but just not msu as the 3 please.

Why not?

Just my opinion, I think MSU is the best all around team in the country and not a good matchup for us. Fancy metrics be damned.

I agree msu is excellent. I don't want to draw them. The good metrics agree. Rpi is **** and underrates them.

(03-03-2018 08:46 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 08:07 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 08:01 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 07:47 PM)CallMeSlim Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 02:18 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I want UC to be the 2 seed in Xavier's region so badly.

but just not msu as the 3 please.

Why not?

Just my opinion, I think MSU is the best all around team in the country and not a good matchup for us. Fancy metrics be damned.

I agree msu is excellent. I don't want to draw them. The good metrics agree. Rpi is **** and underrates them.

yeah they are kinda the opposite of us. the rpi makes our resume look better than it probably is, and the rpi makes theirs looks much worse.


they have 9 quad 1 and 2 wins according to rpi. but if you do resumes by kenpom they have 16 quad 1 and 2 wins.


we have 12 quad 1 and 2 wins according to rpi. by kenpom we have 7 quad 1 and 2 wins.

(03-03-2018 09:20 PM)CallMeSlim Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 08:46 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 08:07 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 08:01 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 07:47 PM)CallMeSlim Wrote:  but just not msu as the 3 please.

Why not?

Just my opinion, I think MSU is the best all around team in the country and not a good matchup for us. Fancy metrics be damned.

I agree msu is excellent. I don't want to draw them. The good metrics agree. Rpi is **** and underrates them.

yeah they are kinda the opposite of us. the rpi makes our resume look better than it probably is, and the rpi makes theirs looks much worse.


they have 9 quad 1 and 2 wins according to rpi. but if you do resumes by kenpom they have 16 quad 1 and 2 wins.


we have 12 quad 1 and 2 wins according to rpi. by kenpom we have 7 quad 1 and 2 wins.

True. Though We have great overall kenpom numbers. Kenpom has UC as the 4th best team in the country.

(03-03-2018 09:24 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 09:20 PM)CallMeSlim Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 08:46 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 08:07 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-03-2018 08:01 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  Why not?

Just my opinion, I think MSU is the best all around team in the country and not a good matchup for us. Fancy metrics be damned.

I agree msu is excellent. I don't want to draw them. The good metrics agree. Rpi is **** and underrates them.

yeah they are kinda the opposite of us. the rpi makes our resume look better than it probably is, and the rpi makes theirs looks much worse.


they have 9 quad 1 and 2 wins according to rpi. but if you do resumes by kenpom they have 16 quad 1 and 2 wins.


we have 12 quad 1 and 2 wins according to rpi. by kenpom we have 7 quad 1 and 2 wins.

True. Though We have great overall kenpom numbers. Kenpom has UC as the 4th best team in the country.

we do, and with kenpom, your ranking is your resume.


but i was trying to live in a world where your teamsheet was listed based on kenpom rankings instead of rpi

Carolina v. Duke always delivers

Watching Cleveland State make Northern Kentucky sweat in the Horizon tournament.

These last 30 seconds looks like Cleveland State could run away with it if they don't choke.

Sucks for NKU, feel bad for them. I wish them luck in the NIT.

No. 9 NC goes down to No. 5 Duke

(03-03-2018 08:35 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  WVA and UK both got skull-dragged...neither should be ranked and I've said it for weeks.

KU got trucked!

WVU lost in OT, not exactly what I would say "skull dragged". You do realize both teams lost to NCAA tournament teams right? What is our record vs NCAA tourney teams this year? 1-4. It's not easy to beat good teams on the road, I would say both teams stay ranked.

The point is. Good teams lose games sometimes. UC fans overreact to each and ever loss. Kansas got stomped by a team that likely won't make the tournament today. WVU got beat by a bubble team (a UCLA/Miss State level team).

(03-03-2018 10:07 PM)franzeal Wrote:  Watching Cleveland State make Northern Kentucky sweat in the Horizon tournament.

These last 30 seconds looks like Cleveland State could run away with it if they don't choke.

Sucks for NKU, feel bad for them. I wish them luck in the NIT.

Too bad... I'm a pretty big NKU fan, and have watched a bunch of their games. Their defense looks suspect against athletic teams and couldn't stop Cleveland St. Quickness. I have no idea how Cleveland St. record was 10-22 from watching them vs. UC and NKU.