Quote:Delta airlines just lost a $40 million tax break in Georgia after making the decision to pull long-held discounts from NRA members. The decision from Delta came last week, prompting the Georgia legislature to take a close look at the tax breaks being given to the company. Today, they voted to take it away and the governor is likely to sign it.

Pro-gun Georgia lawmakers scored a political victory Thursday over Delta Air Lines, making good on Republican threats to deny the company a hefty tax break after it cut ties with the National Rifle Association in the wake of the deadly shooting at a Florida high school.

The state House and Senate within hours of each other passed a sweeping tax bill that Republicans had amended to strip out a sales tax exemption on jet fuel. Atlanta-based Delta would have been the prime beneficiary of the tax break, which would have been worth an estimated $38 million.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli...sletterad=

When you take a political stance you can expect political ramifications that bite you in the ass.

They can come back to Memphis like the Northwest days - we'd be glad to have them, even though they do suck out loud overall as an airline.
Virginia & one other state are offering them options to move their hubs to as well.

(03-02-2018 04:48 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  They can come back to Memphis like the Northwest days - we'd be glad to have them, even though they do suck out loud overall as an airline.
Virginia & one other state are offering them options to move their hubs to as well.

I don't fly nearly as much as I used to, but unless a lot changed within the last 1-2 years, Delta was one of the best among all the domestic airlines. Biggest fall IMHO was Southwest. They used to be in a class by themselves. But that's no longer true.

As an NRA member...

I'm not excited about companies jumping into political frays. I'm less excited about politicians "punishing" private companies for their business decisions.

Personally, I think it sets a very bad precedent and dangerous for freedom going forward.

Its just another example of boots on the ground in the ongoing culture war.

Get in the mud and get dirty.

As a GOA member (because the NRA is too soft on gun control), I like that I cashed in all my Delta miles a year ago and flew Southwest last time I did fly. Guess I should write their CEO a letter showing the sum total I've spent with Delta over the years which will be going elsewhere.

(03-02-2018 05:47 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  As a GOA member (because the NRA is too soft on gun control), I like that I cashed in all my Delta miles a year ago and flew Southwest last time I did fly. Guess I should write their CEO a letter showing the sum total I've spent with Delta over the years which will be going elsewhere.

Only way to get their attention.

Nice to see Delta get slapped back, the way they have pushed Georgia around for special deals over the years. Haven't checked recently, but Atlanta had the highest average fares in the nation a few years back.

(03-02-2018 06:23 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 05:47 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  As a GOA member (because the NRA is too soft on gun control), I like that I cashed in all my Delta miles a year ago and flew Southwest last time I did fly. Guess I should write their CEO a letter showing the sum total I've spent with Delta over the years which will be going elsewhere.

Only way to get their attention.

Nice to see Delta get slapped back, the way they have pushed Georgia around for special deals over the years. Haven't checked recently, but Atlanta had the highest average fares in the nation a few years back.

this
lost 50 million for 15 nra discount deals. frick em

(03-02-2018 05:25 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  As an NRA member...

I'm not excited about companies jumping into political frays. I'm less excited about politicians "punishing" private companies for their business decisions.

Personally, I think it sets a very bad precedent and dangerous for freedom going forward.

Tit for Tat, it's nothing else. If companies want to play that stupid game that is trying to make Us change because they don't like something then it's only proper that they pay for it by not getting paid for it. Get it?

Congrats to Georgia.

The number of Delta fliers who bought tickets with NRA discount: Only 13

Idiots

40 million dollars. Somebody is getting fired.

http://www.wtsp.com/mobile/article/news/...60e998ecb2

Delta won’t be going anywhere.

(03-02-2018 07:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 05:25 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  As an NRA member...

I'm not excited about companies jumping into political frays. I'm less excited about politicians "punishing" private companies for their business decisions.

Personally, I think it sets a very bad precedent and dangerous for freedom going forward.

Tit for Tat, it's nothing else. If companies want to play that stupid game that is trying to make Us change because they don't like something then it's only proper that they pay for it by not getting paid for it. Get it?

Congrats to Georgia.

I get it. Trust me. Does part of me appreciate it because they're sticking up for law abiding gun owners and the NRA, absolutely. I just think it sets a bad precedent for the future is all. Let's face it, the GOP/conservatives won't be in control forever and using gov't power like that is just a bad idea, IMO. Like I said in my original post, I wish companies would stay out of it and vice versa. I don't like companies using tragedies to attract more business from either side, and I don't like the gov't using gov't pressure to dictate how companies run their business.

Maybe I'm becoming more and more libertarian as I age. Who knows.

(03-02-2018 06:23 PM)bullet Wrote:  Nice to see Delta get slapped back, the way they have pushed Georgia around for special deals over the years. Haven't checked recently, but Atlanta had the highest average fares in the nation a few years back.

There simply aren't enough gates. When I fly through Atlanta -- which is nearly every flight I take -- it's the middle stop to my final. About 20% of the time even with Delta I've been gated in the International Terminal because the Domestic South Terminal had no gates available. I've sat on a taxiway with Delta waiting for 20 minutes for a gate to open at Atlanta. I have only flown a few other carriers such as AirTran (now Southwest), AA (my only bad experience), and Southwest (not too bad).

(03-02-2018 08:20 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 07:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(03-02-2018 05:25 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  As an NRA member...

I'm not excited about companies jumping into political frays. I'm less excited about politicians "punishing" private companies for their business decisions.

Personally, I think it sets a very bad precedent and dangerous for freedom going forward.

Tit for Tat, it's nothing else. If companies want to play that stupid game that is trying to make Us change because they don't like something then it's only proper that they pay for it by not getting paid for it. Get it?

Congrats to Georgia.

I get it. Trust me. Does part of me appreciate it because they're sticking up for law abiding gun owners and the NRA, absolutely. I just think it sets a bad precedent for the future is all. Let's face it, the GOP/conservatives won't be in control forever and using gov't power like that is just a bad idea, IMO. Like I said in my original post, I wish companies would stay out of it and vice versa. I don't like companies using tragedies to attract more business from either side, and I don't like the gov't using gov't pressure to dictate how companies run their business.

Maybe I'm becoming more and more libertarian as I age. Who knows.

This is more where I am as well. Let their customers punish them for playing politics. I'd just as soon see the government stay out of it........always p!sses me off when some politicians try and dictate .....

Aa I posted in the other thread, they just pissed away $40 million in tax breaks over only 13 total NRA discounted seats ever sold. That is approaching breach of fiduciary duty level of idiocy.

What kind of discount did Delta give NRA members? If it was significant, then that's not very smart either for NRA members not to have taken advantage of it.

I think it was 5%

(03-02-2018 09:45 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Aa I posted in the other thread, they just pissed away $40 million in tax breaks over only 13 total NRA discounted seats ever sold. That is approaching breach of fiduciary duty level of idiocy.

Obviously, this wasn't a discount that was costing Delta any money. I guess they just felt compelled to make a political statement and now it will cost them some money.

I still don't like the idea of government doing this. Who's to say that next time it won't be penalizing a company for not promoting abortion or whatever else.......

And just like that.....Atlanta was taken off the list of Amazon prospect HQ cities....and a lot more companies that might be considering Georgia as well.

I'd also like to note that, the GOP Republicans in Georgia largely support laws allowing businesses to make political/religious statements about Gay people without any penalty from the government when its anti-Gay/women political/business decisions. I see that they're now arguing that the government should punish companies for making political/religious statements. I'm glad we cleared up the whole question of whether the government is able to punish businesses for making political/business statements. If Georgia can do this to Delta, then a future Federal Administration can most certainly do this to social work, medical, and educational providers, based upon their discriminatory practices.

I'm fine with the tax break being taken away in this case. It certainly will help our case when we come after discriminatory businesses later on. The tax break also came largely at the expense of a Black majority county, over their objections.

With a new political dynamic possibly just 34 months away on a national level, and just 10 months away in many states, combined with a idiotic court that didn't step in Mississippi over HB1523, it looks like the GOP is going to paint themselves into a rather nasty corner on this one. Only way this could get better is if Delta sues, claiming that it was illegal for Georgia to do what it did and then have the courts uphold the state of Georgia.

BTW, if the Circuit Court covering Georgia, or the US Supreme Court ever rules that RFRA laws are unconstitutional, then Delta still can sue the state of Georgia and get all of their taxbreak money back. Either way, Georgia's Republicans lose on this one.

And on a political level, you guys do realize that the NRA isn't particularly popular. Sure it will get you through a GOP primary, but at some point, this is starting to extract a bigger political price in terms of flipped seats. When Amazon goes somewhere else, regardless of the reason, Cagle and the Georgia GOP will be blamed. And this will drive yet another wedge between the GOPs business wing and the GOP's 4G wing (God, Guns, Gays, and Gynecology).

Whatever personal political benefit Cagle thinks he'll receive from doing this (and he might get one - personally), the net impact is going to be a negative for the RFRA folks.