(02-14-2018 12:53 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 12:47 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  At some point, the President will be held to the same standard as he holds the FBI, CIA and the MSM.

The problem with Trump is he is an illusion, a hollow image who has been thrust into a job he was terribly unprepared to fill.

Repeat after me.

Donald J. Trump is my president.

BTW, how's your paychecks looking.

How's your health insurance costs doing? And how's your gas tax doing when they increase it to pay for their infrastructure debacle...and how's your payments doing for your parents when their SS and medicare get slashed to pay for his millionaires tax cut give-away? Not to mention the debt and deficit your side used to care about. And come see me in a few years when your paychecks start going down when the tax increases kick in. It's all relative...

And oh...you're going to need that pittance when the inflation kicks in.

(02-14-2018 12:47 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  At some point, the President will be held to the same standard as he holds the FBI, CIA and the MSM.

The problem with Trump is he is an illusion, a hollow image who has been thrust into a job he was terribly unprepared to fill.

Yes, but its not likely Barack Obama will land in jail as he deserves for his abuse of presidential power. And anybody else but the Secretary of State Clinton would have been in jail for her gross negligence with state secrets on her server.

Wrong...... no how many times you repeat a lie that doesn’t make it true.

(02-14-2018 12:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No clue what you're referring to actually...but it doesn't belong in this thread. Post the details in a new thread...or likely in the ones already covering this and I'll look at it. Thanks.

No need for a new thread but since you're obviously woefully (and likely willingly) ignorant of significant facts about James Comey, here's a link for ya.

Quote:A friend of former FBI director James Comey who leaked sensitive FBI memos to The New York Times in the wake of Comey’s firing in 2017 now claims to be Comey’s personal attorney. Daniel Richman, a law professor at Columbia University, told The Federalist via phone on Tuesday afternoon that he was now personally representing Comey.

The revelation comes in the wake of news that Comey was interviewed by the special counsel’s office last year. According to The New York Times, the line of questioning from the office of special counsel Robert Mueller focused on memos that Comey wrote and later leaked after he was fired from his job by President Donald Trump. A review of FBI policies governing the handling of sensitive government documents suggests Comey violated FBI policy by leaking the memos, which were produced on government time, using government equipment, and directly related to his official government responsibilities, according to Comey’s own testimony before Congress.

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), who serves as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, wrote in a letter to the Department of Justice on January 3 that at least one of the memos Comey provided to his friend was classified.

“My staff has since reviewed these memoranda in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) at the FBI, and I reviewed them in a SCIF at the Office of Senate Security,” Grassley wrote. “The FBI insisted that these reviews take place in a SCIF because the majority of the memos are classified. Of the seven memos, four are marked classified at the ‘SECRET’ or ‘CONFIDENTIAL’ levels.”

“If it’s true that Professor Richman had four of the seven memos, then in light of the fact that four of the seven memos the Committee reviewed are classified, it would appear that at least one memo the former FBI director gave Professor Richman contained classified information,” Grassley noted in the letter.

Read more: http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/23/come...-attorney/

From the same linked article.

Quote:“I asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with a reporter,” Comey testified last June in response to a question from Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine). “Didn’t do it myself, for a variety of reasons.”

“But I asked him to, because I thought that might prompt the appointment of a special counsel,” Comey continued. “And so I asked a close friend of mine to do it.”

“Who was that?” Collins asked.

“A good friend of mine who’s a professor at Columbia Law School,” Comey responded.

Isn't that cute? This clearly demonstrates that Comey believes that he, like Cankles, is above the law.

(02-14-2018 01:59 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 12:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No clue what you're referring to actually...but it doesn't belong in this thread. Post the details in a new thread...or likely in the ones already covering this and I'll look at it. Thanks.

No need for a new thread but since you're obviously woefully (and likely willingly) ignorant of significant facts about James Comey, here's a link for ya.

Quote:A friend of former FBI director James Comey who leaked sensitive FBI memos to The New York Times in the wake of Comey’s firing in 2017 now claims to be Comey’s personal attorney. Daniel Richman, a law professor at Columbia University, told The Federalist via phone on Tuesday afternoon that he was now personally representing Comey.

The revelation comes in the wake of news that Comey was interviewed by the special counsel’s office last year. According to The New York Times, the line of questioning from the office of special counsel Robert Mueller focused on memos that Comey wrote and later leaked after he was fired from his job by President Donald Trump. A review of FBI policies governing the handling of sensitive government documents suggests Comey violated FBI policy by leaking the memos, which were produced on government time, using government equipment, and directly related to his official government responsibilities, according to Comey’s own testimony before Congress.

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), who serves as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, wrote in a letter to the Department of Justice on January 3 that at least one of the memos Comey provided to his friend was classified.

“My staff has since reviewed these memoranda in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) at the FBI, and I reviewed them in a SCIF at the Office of Senate Security,” Grassley wrote. “The FBI insisted that these reviews take place in a SCIF because the majority of the memos are classified. Of the seven memos, four are marked classified at the ‘SECRET’ or ‘CONFIDENTIAL’ levels.”

“If it’s true that Professor Richman had four of the seven memos, then in light of the fact that four of the seven memos the Committee reviewed are classified, it would appear that at least one memo the former FBI director gave Professor Richman contained classified information,” Grassley noted in the letter.

Read more: http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/23/come...-attorney/

So, as soon as you show me proof that he did pass along classified information...which even Senator Grassley is not completely sure of...then I'll tell you whether I'm "hunky dory" with it, MMMkay?

Thanks. Still has no real bearing on this thread concerning Comey's testimony, which still holds as truthful. Sorry.

(02-14-2018 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 12:53 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 12:47 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  At some point, the President will be held to the same standard as he holds the FBI, CIA and the MSM.

The problem with Trump is he is an illusion, a hollow image who has been thrust into a job he was terribly unprepared to fill.

Repeat after me.

Donald J. Trump is my president.

BTW, how's your paychecks looking.

How's your health insurance costs doing? And how's your gas tax doing when they increase it to pay for their infrastructure debacle...and how's your payments doing for your parents when their SS and medicare get slashed to pay for his millionaires tax cut give-away? Not to mention the debt and deficit your side used to care about. And come see me in a few years when your paychecks start going down when the tax increases kick in. It's all relative...

And oh...you're going to need that pittance when the inflation kicks in.

Yeah. The Trump moves means I'll owe $3 more than I already was going to owe. The issue you are so suddenly concerned about was built long before Trump even ran. Good Lord--we ran a country for 8 years without ever passing a budget and you want to act like Trump is acting irresponsibly? Give me a break.

(02-13-2018 05:16 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  And again..... why doesn’t the truth matter to the right anymore? Why am I constantly calling out people. Can’t one of you righties clean up aisle 3 on your own? It’s just a blatant lie without any links. Why ?????

Why? Because they are too accustomed to having their “news” delivered to them from sources willing to provide them with info they demand to hear. Problem is, their news isn’t supported by fact, which continually leads them down these conspiratorial rabbit holes.

Meanwhile, their President is under investigation and 1/3 of his staff have either been arrested, subpoenaed or fired in year 1.

(02-14-2018 01:40 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Wrong...... no how many times you repeat a lie that doesn’t make it true.

That's right. You keep repeating your lie that Trump colluded with Russia even though there's still no evidence. And there is admission by the Clinton campaign that they paid Russians through Fusion GPS to get dirt on Trump and then shared that with the FBI to try to spy on people connected with the Trump campaign. So your side has been cheating with the Russians comrade. Those are facts.

(02-14-2018 02:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 01:40 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Wrong...... no how many times you repeat a lie that doesn’t make it true.

That's right. You keep repeating your lie that Trump colluded with Russia even though there's still no evidence. And there is admission by the Clinton campaign that they paid Russians through Fusion GPS to get dirt on Trump and then shared that with the FBI to try to spy on people connected with the Trump campaign. So your side has been cheating with the Russians comrade. Those are facts.

We don’t know if there was collusion or obstruction... it’s why there’s a special counsel and an ongoing investigation. We do know Trump is doing everything he can to try and sabotage the investigation... which is an strategy for an innocent man.

(02-14-2018 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 02:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 01:40 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Wrong...... no how many times you repeat a lie that doesn’t make it true.

That's right. You keep repeating your lie that Trump colluded with Russia even though there's still no evidence. And there is admission by the Clinton campaign that they paid Russians through Fusion GPS to get dirt on Trump and then shared that with the FBI to try to spy on people connected with the Trump campaign. So your side has been cheating with the Russians comrade. Those are facts.

We don’t know if there was collusion or obstruction. It’s why there’s a special counsel and an ongoing investigation. We do know Trump is doing everything he can to try and sabotage the investigation... which is an strategy for an innocent man.

Without collusion there is no obstruction... And obstruction is hard to prove on a good day.

Mensa.. pfft.

The so called investigation seems to be doing a pretty good job of sabotaging itself. The more they investigate Trump, the more crooked members of the previous administration they shake out. It's a coup attempt gone awry.

(02-14-2018 02:40 PM)appst89 Wrote:  The so called investigation seems to be doing a pretty good job of sabotaging itself. The more they investigate Trump, the more crooked members of the previous administration they shake out. It's a coup attempt gone awry.

Correct. What Mueller's investigation has proved is how much Obama's deep state needs to be investigated. Also how Mueller's own investigation needs to be investigated. I believe the IG is doing this behind the scenes.

(02-14-2018 03:03 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 02:40 PM)appst89 Wrote:  The so called investigation seems to be doing a pretty good job of sabotaging itself. The more they investigate Trump, the more crooked members of the previous administration they shake out. It's a coup attempt gone awry.

Correct. What Mueller's investigation has proved is how much Obama's deep state needs to be investigated. Also how Mueller's own investigation needs to be investigated. I believe the IG is doing this behind the scenes.

The level of utter obliviousness to reality in you guys is just striking.

(02-14-2018 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 02:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 01:40 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Wrong...... no how many times you repeat a lie that doesn’t make it true.

That's right. You keep repeating your lie that Trump colluded with Russia even though there's still no evidence. And there is admission by the Clinton campaign that they paid Russians through Fusion GPS to get dirt on Trump and then shared that with the FBI to try to spy on people connected with the Trump campaign. So your side has been cheating with the Russians comrade. Those are facts.

We don’t know if there was collusion or obstruction... it’s why there’s a special counsel and an ongoing investigation. We do know Trump is doing everything he can to try and sabotage the investigation... which is an strategy for an innocent man.

Actually we do. What we are finding out is the entire basis for the idea that there may have been "collusion" was incredibly suspect to begin with. In fact, its more and more appearing that not only was there never any collusion---but the entire "idea" that there as collusion was manufactured to create a knowingly false narrative that might be politically advantageous in the 2016 election. It appears to me that both Clinton and Obama had to be part of that plan for it to work.

(02-14-2018 03:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 03:03 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 02:40 PM)appst89 Wrote:  The so called investigation seems to be doing a pretty good job of sabotaging itself. The more they investigate Trump, the more crooked members of the previous administration they shake out. It's a coup attempt gone awry.

Correct. What Mueller's investigation has proved is how much Obama's deep state needs to be investigated. Also how Mueller's own investigation needs to be investigated. I believe the IG is doing this behind the scenes.

The level of utter obliviousness to reality in you guys is just striking.

Fantasy land has seen a huge increase in business over the last year.

(02-14-2018 02:23 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 02:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 01:40 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Wrong...... no how many times you repeat a lie that doesn’t make it true.

That's right. You keep repeating your lie that Trump colluded with Russia even though there's still no evidence. And there is admission by the Clinton campaign that they paid Russians through Fusion GPS to get dirt on Trump and then shared that with the FBI to try to spy on people connected with the Trump campaign. So your side has been cheating with the Russians comrade. Those are facts.

We don’t know if there was collusion or obstruction. It’s why there’s a special counsel and an ongoing investigation. We do know Trump is doing everything he can to try and sabotage the investigation... which is an strategy for an innocent man.

Without collusion there is no obstruction... And obstruction is hard to prove on a good day.

Mensa.. pfft.

That's not how that works. Obstruction doesn't require a crime to have been committed for it to be applicable, though in this case I don't think that will really be a concern.

And again, just saying there is no evidence doesn't mean it's true. We have plenty of evidence of many members of the Trump campaign reaching out to Russian agents in order to gain harmful information on their opponent. That isn't up for debate, we have admissions, messages, and intel which proves this happened. Trump has also refused to enact sanctions of Russia despite those sanctions being legally passed and him signing them into law, along with a variety of other pro-Russian actions, statements, and pushing for changes to the RNC platform itself regarding the Ukrainian invasion. This evidence is also not up for debate, they are objective facts. You can choose to interpret these facts whichever way you want, that's your prerogative, but this is all evidence.

Well then why hasn't he been drug in front of the court. Oh yea. Evidence. Pesky.

(02-14-2018 03:50 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 02:23 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 02:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 01:40 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Wrong...... no how many times you repeat a lie that doesn’t make it true.

That's right. You keep repeating your lie that Trump colluded with Russia even though there's still no evidence. And there is admission by the Clinton campaign that they paid Russians through Fusion GPS to get dirt on Trump and then shared that with the FBI to try to spy on people connected with the Trump campaign. So your side has been cheating with the Russians comrade. Those are facts.

We don’t know if there was collusion or obstruction. It’s why there’s a special counsel and an ongoing investigation. We do know Trump is doing everything he can to try and sabotage the investigation... which is an strategy for an innocent man.

Without collusion there is no obstruction... And obstruction is hard to prove on a good day.

Mensa.. pfft.

That's not how that works. Obstruction doesn't require a crime to have been committed for it to be applicable, though in this case I don't think that will really be a concern.

And again, just saying there is no evidence doesn't mean it's true. We have plenty of evidence of many members of the Trump campaign reaching out to Russian agents in order to gain harmful information on their opponent.

No we dont.

What we have is now is actual proof of at least FOUR DOSSIERS created by Clinton paid operatives, who colluded with the Obama state department and russians inside russia, to affect the 2016 election.

You also have Schiff & Warner trying to work with the russians while trying to not leave a paper trail.

THAT, is no longer in dispute.

(02-14-2018 03:45 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 03:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 03:03 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 02:40 PM)appst89 Wrote:  The so called investigation seems to be doing a pretty good job of sabotaging itself. The more they investigate Trump, the more crooked members of the previous administration they shake out. It's a coup attempt gone awry.

Correct. What Mueller's investigation has proved is how much Obama's deep state needs to be investigated. Also how Mueller's own investigation needs to be investigated. I believe the IG is doing this behind the scenes.

The level of utter obliviousness to reality in you guys is just striking.

Fantasy land has seen a huge increase in business over the last year.

Blue lives matter. Except for any law enforcement investigating the god emperor. Only an idiot would think a Republican, appointed by Republicans to investigate another Republican would be too liberal.