(01-23-2018 04:14 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:57 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Sadly more kids shooting kids. Been going on now for years in big cities. No one likes it Fit but You can't stop stupid. At least this school had gone through shooter drills and likely saved a lot more from death and injuries. He used a hand gun and several injuries were from running and falling. Prayers to families of those injured or killed.

You could say the exact same thing about illegal immigration but that doesn't stop you guys from doing everything in your power to prevent it.

So suggest something fit...

What would have stopped this instance considering the kids was breaking two laws just having the gun.

More security guards? Metal detectors? How about a giant wall?

(01-23-2018 04:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:11 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:57 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Sadly more kids shooting kids. Been going on now for years in big cities. No one likes it Fit but You can't stop stupid. At least this school had gone through shooter drills and likely saved a lot more from death and injuries. He used a hand gun and several injuries were from running and falling. Prayers to families of those injured or killed.

You could say the exact same thing about illegal immigration but that doesn't stop you guys from doing everything in your power to prevent it.

You have to be kidding right? You just typed it yourself "ILLEGAL" immigration. What is wrong with trying to prevent illegal activities?

There is nothing wrong with trying to stop illegal immigration. What's wrong with trying to stop illegal killing?

Want the truth?

You can't if you want to live in a free society. There are inherent dangers living in a free society.

(01-23-2018 04:46 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:11 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:57 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Sadly more kids shooting kids. Been going on now for years in big cities. No one likes it Fit but You can't stop stupid. At least this school had gone through shooter drills and likely saved a lot more from death and injuries. He used a hand gun and several injuries were from running and falling. Prayers to families of those injured or killed.

You could say the exact same thing about illegal immigration but that doesn't stop you guys from doing everything in your power to prevent it.

You have to be kidding right? You just typed it yourself "ILLEGAL" immigration. What is wrong with trying to prevent illegal activities?

There is nothing wrong with trying to stop illegal immigration. What's wrong with trying to stop illegal killing?

Want the truth?

You can't if you want to live in a free society. There are inherent dangers living in a free society.

Exactly. The same thing goes for illegal immigration.

(01-23-2018 04:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:14 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:57 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Sadly more kids shooting kids. Been going on now for years in big cities. No one likes it Fit but You can't stop stupid. At least this school had gone through shooter drills and likely saved a lot more from death and injuries. He used a hand gun and several injuries were from running and falling. Prayers to families of those injured or killed.

You could say the exact same thing about illegal immigration but that doesn't stop you guys from doing everything in your power to prevent it.

So suggest something fit...

What would have stopped this instance considering the kids was breaking two laws just having the gun.

More security guards? Metal detectors? How about a giant wall?

A wall. Nice. A joke...Unless you are on the Aspergers spectrum, you have a very ****** up sense of when its appropriate to make jokes relating to dead kids.

(01-23-2018 04:46 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:11 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:57 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Sadly more kids shooting kids. Been going on now for years in big cities. No one likes it Fit but You can't stop stupid. At least this school had gone through shooter drills and likely saved a lot more from death and injuries. He used a hand gun and several injuries were from running and falling. Prayers to families of those injured or killed.

You could say the exact same thing about illegal immigration but that doesn't stop you guys from doing everything in your power to prevent it.

You have to be kidding right? You just typed it yourself "ILLEGAL" immigration. What is wrong with trying to prevent illegal activities?

There is nothing wrong with trying to stop illegal immigration. What's wrong with trying to stop illegal killing?

Want the truth?

You can't if you want to live in a free society. There are inherent dangers living in a free society.

There's steps that can be taken to reduce murders and shootings.

Like this complex step that the Trump administration is doing while the Obama administration refused.........enforcing the gun laws we already have on the books.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli...s-n2361412

Quote:During the Obama administration prosecutions of federal gun law violations dropped by nearly 30 percent. Since February, the Trump administration has already turned those numbers around.

According to the Justice Department, led by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, federal gun prosecutions are up by 23 percent in 2017 compared to last year.

"Following President Trump’s Executive Order to focus on reducing crime, I directed federal prosecutors to prioritize taking illegal guns off of our streets, and as a result, we are now prosecuting hundreds more firearms defendants," Sessions released in a statement Friday. "In the first three months since the memo went into effect, charges of unlawful possession of a gun – mostly by previously convicted felons – are up by 23 percent. That sends a clear message to criminals all over this country that if you carry a gun illegally, you will be held accountable. I am grateful to the many federal prosecutors and agents who are working hard every day to make America safe again.”

President Trump signed an executive order in February directing the Department of Justice to bolster the laws on the books in order to reduce crime in cities across the country. Sessions followed up with a memo to all of the agencies under his jurisdiction at DOJ and demanded laws already on the books be rigorously enforced.

Too early to tell if it's making a difference but one would have to either be ignorant or a partisan fool to not acknowledge that every arrest and conviction made with this push is a step in the right direction.

(01-23-2018 04:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Maybe it's just this forum then because you guys seemingly ignored it for more than an hour.

Please advise the appropriate "event to forum posting" timing you find appropriate.

(01-23-2018 04:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:46 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:11 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  You could say the exact same thing about illegal immigration but that doesn't stop you guys from doing everything in your power to prevent it.

You have to be kidding right? You just typed it yourself "ILLEGAL" immigration. What is wrong with trying to prevent illegal activities?

There is nothing wrong with trying to stop illegal immigration. What's wrong with trying to stop illegal killing?

Want the truth?

You can't if you want to live in a free society. There are inherent dangers living in a free society.

There's steps that can be taken to reduce murders and shootings.

Like this complex step that the Trump administration is doing while the Obama administration refused.........enforcing the gun laws we already have on the books.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli...s-n2361412

Quote:During the Obama administration prosecutions of federal gun law violations dropped by nearly 30 percent. Since February, the Trump administration has already turned those numbers around.

According to the Justice Department, led by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, federal gun prosecutions are up by 23 percent in 2017 compared to last year.

"Following President Trump’s Executive Order to focus on reducing crime, I directed federal prosecutors to prioritize taking illegal guns off of our streets, and as a result, we are now prosecuting hundreds more firearms defendants," Sessions released in a statement Friday. "In the first three months since the memo went into effect, charges of unlawful possession of a gun – mostly by previously convicted felons – are up by 23 percent. That sends a clear message to criminals all over this country that if you carry a gun illegally, you will be held accountable. I am grateful to the many federal prosecutors and agents who are working hard every day to make America safe again.”

President Trump signed an executive order in February directing the Department of Justice to bolster the laws on the books in order to reduce crime in cities across the country. Sessions followed up with a memo to all of the agencies under his jurisdiction at DOJ and demanded laws already on the books be rigorously enforced.

Too early to tell if it's making a difference but one would have to either be ignorant or a partisan fool to not acknowledge that every arrest and conviction made with this push is a step in the right direction.

Am all for steps in the right direction. How about more funds for security guards, surveilence systems, gun education?

(01-23-2018 04:52 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:46 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:11 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  You could say the exact same thing about illegal immigration but that doesn't stop you guys from doing everything in your power to prevent it.

You have to be kidding right? You just typed it yourself "ILLEGAL" immigration. What is wrong with trying to prevent illegal activities?

There is nothing wrong with trying to stop illegal immigration. What's wrong with trying to stop illegal killing?

Want the truth?

You can't if you want to live in a free society. There are inherent dangers living in a free society.

Exactly. The same thing goes for illegal immigration.

Not its not. Illegal immigration and killing is not in the same ball park.

Everyone is against senseless killing.

(01-23-2018 04:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:14 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:57 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Sadly more kids shooting kids. Been going on now for years in big cities. No one likes it Fit but You can't stop stupid. At least this school had gone through shooter drills and likely saved a lot more from death and injuries. He used a hand gun and several injuries were from running and falling. Prayers to families of those injured or killed.

You could say the exact same thing about illegal immigration but that doesn't stop you guys from doing everything in your power to prevent it.

So suggest something fit...

What would have stopped this instance considering the kids was breaking two laws just having the gun.

More security guards? Metal detectors? How about a giant wall?

How about we get some details as to what happened and how the kid got a hold of a handgun before we go off the handle...

(01-23-2018 04:52 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 04:46 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  You can't if you want to live in a free society. There are inherent dangers living in a free society.

Exactly. The same thing goes for illegal immigration.

non sequiter...

One is the attitude you take towards people who are not doing anything illegal until the moment they commit a crime (killing)

The other is the posture you take towards people who have committed a crime just being here (illegally immigrate)

(01-23-2018 03:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 02:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  BENTON, Ky. -- Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin said Tuesday afternoon that a 15-year-old boy shot 14 people Tuesday morning at a southwestern Kentucky high school. Two of the victims, a 15-year-old boy and 15-year-old girl, died. Five others suffered non-gunshot injuries, the governor said. The suspect in the incident at Marshall County High School in Benton, Kentucky, has been apprehended, according to officials with Marshall County Emergency Management.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentucky-sh...e-updates/

When are we going to hold the school systems responsible? We are required by law to send our kids there. Shouldn't they be required by law to protect them.

When are we going to hold parents responsible?

(01-23-2018 04:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:43 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's not even news anymore right?

CNN: Top Story
FOX: Top Story
ABC: Top Story
CBS: Top Story
PMSNBC: Not even on the front page

Whos' not treating it like news... Hmmmmmm

Maybe it's just this forum then because you guys seemingly ignored it for more than an hour.

Give you one guess as to what most are doing at 1:30 in the afternoon.

(01-23-2018 06:33 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 02:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  BENTON, Ky. -- Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin said Tuesday afternoon that a 15-year-old boy shot 14 people Tuesday morning at a southwestern Kentucky high school. Two of the victims, a 15-year-old boy and 15-year-old girl, died. Five others suffered non-gunshot injuries, the governor said. The suspect in the incident at Marshall County High School in Benton, Kentucky, has been apprehended, according to officials with Marshall County Emergency Management.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentucky-sh...e-updates/

When are we going to hold the school systems responsible? We are required by law to send our kids there. Shouldn't they be required by law to protect them.

When are we going to hold parents responsible?

They already can be depending on the facts.

(01-23-2018 06:33 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 02:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  BENTON, Ky. -- Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin said Tuesday afternoon that a 15-year-old boy shot 14 people Tuesday morning at a southwestern Kentucky high school. Two of the victims, a 15-year-old boy and 15-year-old girl, died. Five others suffered non-gunshot injuries, the governor said. The suspect in the incident at Marshall County High School in Benton, Kentucky, has been apprehended, according to officials with Marshall County Emergency Management.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentucky-sh...e-updates/

When are we going to hold the school systems responsible? We are required by law to send our kids there. Shouldn't they be required by law to protect them.

When are we going to hold parents responsible?

Did the parents commit a crime?

(01-23-2018 06:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 06:33 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 02:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  BENTON, Ky. -- Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin said Tuesday afternoon that a 15-year-old boy shot 14 people Tuesday morning at a southwestern Kentucky high school. Two of the victims, a 15-year-old boy and 15-year-old girl, died. Five others suffered non-gunshot injuries, the governor said. The suspect in the incident at Marshall County High School in Benton, Kentucky, has been apprehended, according to officials with Marshall County Emergency Management.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentucky-sh...e-updates/

When are we going to hold the school systems responsible? We are required by law to send our kids there. Shouldn't they be required by law to protect them.

When are we going to hold parents responsible?

Did the parents commit a crime?

Did the school?

Its a class D felony in KY punishable by up to 5 years if anyone acted recklessly with wanton disregard for human life and that allowed a kid to acquire a gun. Intent is not required. Its a class D felony in KY punishable by up to 5 years if anyone provides a handgun to someone under the age of 21.

If the facts come out that any of these fit, there will be charges. If not, there won't.

(01-23-2018 07:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 06:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 06:33 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 02:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  BENTON, Ky. -- Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin said Tuesday afternoon that a 15-year-old boy shot 14 people Tuesday morning at a southwestern Kentucky high school. Two of the victims, a 15-year-old boy and 15-year-old girl, died. Five others suffered non-gunshot injuries, the governor said. The suspect in the incident at Marshall County High School in Benton, Kentucky, has been apprehended, according to officials with Marshall County Emergency Management.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentucky-sh...e-updates/

When are we going to hold the school systems responsible? We are required by law to send our kids there. Shouldn't they be required by law to protect them.

When are we going to hold parents responsible?

Did the parents commit a crime?

Did the school?

You want to hold the school responsible also? The Janitor, Football coach, Math teacher? What crime did the "school" commit?

(01-23-2018 04:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:43 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's not even news anymore right?

CNN: Top Story
FOX: Top Story
ABC: Top Story
CBS: Top Story
PMSNBC: Not even on the front page

Whos' not treating it like news... Hmmmmmm

Maybe it's just this forum then because you guys seemingly ignored it for more than an hour.

Some of us actually work..don't follow the news and don't post all fcking day on a silly msg board.

(01-23-2018 07:18 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 07:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 06:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 06:33 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  When are we going to hold the school systems responsible? We are required by law to send our kids there. Shouldn't they be required by law to protect them.

When are we going to hold parents responsible?

Did the parents commit a crime?

Did the school?

You want to hold the school responsible also? The Janitor, Football coach, Math teacher? What crime did the "school" commit?

Nope.

(01-23-2018 03:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:37 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 03:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's not even news anymore right?

No. It's definitely sad news.

Care to postulate on how you you can totally prevent it??

You can't totally prevent it just like you can't totally prevent illegal immigration but that doesn't stop conservatives from trying everything in the book.

If only they had as much hatred for children getting shot as they did for brown people.

I have to say, you are really on to us conservatives. I often lay awake at night just thinking about how much I hate brown people.