What funny is that the farmers markets near me has a ton of Hmong farmers

(12-29-2017 12:36 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-28-2017 06:33 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  1. I'm a farmer's market guy. I don't think they're racist.

2. I'm not sure the professors are saying it's racist either. This is just an example of a FoxNews.com article giving bad Cliff's Notes from a report from another resource and replacing the title with a more clickbaity one. The professors just said that the markets can end up excluding the people who stood to benefit from them in the first place. They don't just use race, they used income status as well. The don't suggest that they should be done away with or that they are bad in themselves. In a true geography prof fashion, they just suggested better planning for area stability to counter unintended consequences.

wasn't there some milk thingy years ago in the northeast due to dipshite whataboutisms......

the bottom line is this.......it's simply ******* retarded what the left continues to milk from the teat.....

I’m not sure of the relevance of your statement in regards to what I said. I don’t think this is a left or right issue, but one of city planning.

The article had its intended effect though. That’s all that matters. I was about to just dismiss this as dumb myself until I read the source information.

It's amazing how what these professors said turned from:

1. The original chapter saying what amounts to: These markets aim for good, but could have the opposite effect for current communities (and usually by sources outside of the market) if implemented with no plan if your town operates under a similar context as San Diego. (9 pages with sources)

2. The Campus Reform article pretty much giving them the credit for not being very controversial, but they spend a little too much time hanging on the term "white". They mention the planning issues, but ignore that the professors said that the bad stuff occurs outside of the markets with the real estate developers and media. (447 words)

3. Foxnews.com article saying that the professors stated that Farmer's Markets are racially biased right in the title. (287 words)

4. OP saying "Now farmers markets are racist". (46% of source 3's words and 5 words of his own)

It's like the telephone game.

(12-28-2017 04:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/28/far...s-say.html

Quote:Two California professors are criticizing farmers’ markets for causing “environmental gentrification” in which “habits of white people are normalized.”

San Diego State University geography professors Pascale Joassart-Marcelli and Fernando J. Bosco contend that farmers’ markets are “white spaces” oppressing minorities in a chapter for "Just Green Enough," an environmental anthology focused on urban development.

Environmental gentrification is defined as a process where “environmental improvements lead to … the displacement of long-term residents,” according to the anthology.

The professors, as reported by Campus Reform, say farmers’ markets are “exclusionary” because locals cannot “afford the food and/or feel excluded from these new spaces.”

The SDSU professors, who teach classes like “Geography of Food” and “Food Justice,” argue that “farmers’ markets are often white spaces where the food consumption habits of white people are normalized.”

Such as in First World countries lol

I loved that line. These guys would be a blast at a cocktail party.

Wait until they do the groundbreaking study on the white privilege of having a garden in your own yard.

(12-29-2017 05:34 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 12:36 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-28-2017 06:33 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  1. I'm a farmer's market guy. I don't think they're racist.

2. I'm not sure the professors are saying it's racist either. This is just an example of a FoxNews.com article giving bad Cliff's Notes from a report from another resource and replacing the title with a more clickbaity one. The professors just said that the markets can end up excluding the people who stood to benefit from them in the first place. They don't just use race, they used income status as well. The don't suggest that they should be done away with or that they are bad in themselves. In a true geography prof fashion, they just suggested better planning for area stability to counter unintended consequences.

wasn't there some milk thingy years ago in the northeast due to dipshite whataboutisms......

the bottom line is this.......it's simply ******* retarded what the left continues to milk from the teat.....

I’m not sure of the relevance of your statement in regards to what I said. I don’t think this is a left or right issue, but one of city planning.

The article had its intended effect though. That’s all that matters. I was about to just dismiss this as dumb myself until I read the source information.

It's amazing how what these professors said turned from:

1. The original chapter saying what amounts to: These markets aim for good, but could have the opposite effect for current communities (and usually by sources outside of the market) if implemented with no plan if your town operates under a similar context as San Diego. (9 pages with sources)

2. The Campus Reform article pretty much giving them the credit for not being very controversial, but they spend a little too much time hanging on the term "white". They mention the planning issues, but ignore that the professors said that the bad stuff occurs outside of the markets with the real estate developers and media. (447 words)

3. Foxnews.com article saying that the professors stated that Farmer's Markets are racially biased right in the title. (287 words)

4. OP saying "Now farmers markets are racist". (46% of source 3's words and 5 words of his own)

It's like the telephone game.

well done sir!!!

the op's premise is how silly this is in scope....

to your closing statement.....at least these are obsolete

(12-29-2017 08:09 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I loved that line. These guys would be a blast at a cocktail party.

Wait until they do the groundbreaking study on the white privilege of having a garden in your own yard.

if'n I could only legally grow my strain....

I’d frequent your market despite the sheer whiteness of it all

Since grocery stores in low-income communities often lack fresh quality produce, the professors say that in some cases, farmers’ markets may be only source of quality and affordable produce for locals.

This is a lie. When I lived in Covington Ky. I went to one of worse Kroger's in the USA, they always had plenty of fresh produce. Farmers markets are not expensive either. They do not displace anyone or poor people. And if they did that would be good yes, they would push poor people to the older suburban ring where better stores are located.
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10306

These Profs are insane.

(12-29-2017 08:14 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I’d frequent your market despite the sheer whiteness of it all

@greennugs Christmas

(12-29-2017 08:18 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Since grocery stores in low-income communities often lack fresh quality produce, the professors say that in some cases, farmers’ markets may be only source of quality and affordable produce for locals.

This is a lie. When I lived in Covington Ky. I went to one of worse Kroger's in the USA, they always had plenty of fresh produce. Farmers markets are not expensive either. They do not displace anyone or poor people. And if they did that would be good yes, they would push poor people to the older suburban ring where better stores are located.
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10306

These Profs are insane.

Confirmation bias.

(12-29-2017 08:31 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 08:18 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Since grocery stores in low-income communities often lack fresh quality produce, the professors say that in some cases, farmers’ markets may be only source of quality and affordable produce for locals.

This is a lie. When I lived in Covington Ky. I went to one of worse Kroger's in the USA, they always had plenty of fresh produce. Farmers markets are not expensive either. They do not displace anyone or poor people. And if they did that would be good yes, they would push poor people to the older suburban ring where better stores are located.
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10306

These Profs are insane.

Confirmation bias.

When I go to Findlay Market I see black folks who take the bus there. They go out of their way to get various specialty products. There is a brand new Kroger in Corryville.
That is where everyone from Walnut Hills, Avondale, Mt. Auburn goes to, and nope that are not upper income.

I work for a faith-based, nonprofit in Cincinnati. My office is located in Bond Hill (for those who do not know it is a poor "black" neighborhood). My employer hosts a Farmer's Market open to the public in the fall. Most of the vendors are African-American. We have produce, breads, pastries, etc. We even line up some local entertainment to play music.

We've really struggled to get people in the community to attend.

(12-29-2017 12:43 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-28-2017 11:33 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(12-28-2017 08:58 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-28-2017 08:52 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(12-28-2017 08:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Front page? Not really. But on page 4 or so? Certainly. Need to expose as much of the absolute ignorance coming out of leftist "academia" as we can out of hope that eventually there will be massive reforms in higher education and courses like "Food Justice" are eradicated.

not disagreeing with you. just no one's immune to bad luck is all i'm saying

This has nothing to do with luck and has everything to do with the left's insistence on classism and self-perpetuating victimhood.

i think it has everything to do with luck. you being a white male at this day in age is luck. these can be your dilemmas. straight white people be packing. the quote unquote developed world being caucasian illustrates what exclusive company you hold. what's so wrong with shaking your world up a bit?

No, me being a white male in this day and age is because of genetics.

Me making something out of myself despite losing my father at a young age wasn't luck either. That was hard work.

Me not falling into the trap of drugs that so many I went to school with wasn't luck either. That was self-control.

My neighbor, who is black, making something of himself wasn't luck either. That too was hard work.

In this world if you are counting on luck you'll likely never make anything of yourself. If you have the work ethic and self-discipline to see things through you'll likely succeed in life.

If you don't you make excuses and talk about "bad luck"

Either that or just blame someone else for whatever the hell is wrong with his/her life.

(12-28-2017 05:09 PM)tigersroll Wrote:  Those professors are 100% correct

So are you implying that black people don't like fresh food?

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(12-29-2017 09:08 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I work for a faith-based, nonprofit in Cincinnati. My office is located in Bond Hill (for those who do not know it is a poor "black" neighborhood). My employer hosts a Farmer's Market open to the public in the fall. Most of the vendors are African-American. We have produce, breads, pastries, etc. We even line up some local entertainment to play music.

We've really struggled to get people in the community to attend.

that's a bummer.....

there is no questioning subsidizing the urbanized impoverished is not an easy task....it has to task the heart at times....

(12-29-2017 12:43 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-28-2017 11:33 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(12-28-2017 08:58 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-28-2017 08:52 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(12-28-2017 08:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Front page? Not really. But on page 4 or so? Certainly. Need to expose as much of the absolute ignorance coming out of leftist "academia" as we can out of hope that eventually there will be massive reforms in higher education and courses like "Food Justice" are eradicated.

not disagreeing with you. just no one's immune to bad luck is all i'm saying

This has nothing to do with luck and has everything to do with the left's insistence on classism and self-perpetuating victimhood.

i think it has everything to do with luck. you being a white male at this day in age is luck. these can be your dilemmas. straight white people be packing. the quote unquote developed world being caucasian illustrates what exclusive company you hold. what's so wrong with shaking your world up a bit?

No, me being a white male in this day and age is because of genetics.

Me making something out of myself despite losing my father at a young age wasn't luck either. That was hard work.

Me not falling into the trap of drugs that so many I went to school with wasn't luck either. That was self-control.

My neighbor, who is black, making something of himself wasn't luck either. That too was hard work.

In this world if you are counting on luck you'll likely never make anything of yourself. If you have the work ethic and self-discipline to see things through you'll likely succeed in life.

If you don't you make excuses and talk about "bad luck"

not exactly what i'm talking about. i'm talking about slavery and the various holocausts, genocides, etc. that's the bad luck i'm talking about. i'm not talking about you waking up and doing something about it. i'm probably not explaining myself very well, even though you wouldn't agree with me if i was completely coherent. there may come a time western civilization and all it's white people are unfairly driven underground. you'll pine for these petty squabbles. i'm not saying it should happen, i'm not saying it's fair. just saying, it could happen. but that's probably why you want to do something about it

Time to brace for Fox News’ War on Farmer’s Markets.

(12-29-2017 07:56 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(12-29-2017 12:43 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-28-2017 11:33 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(12-28-2017 08:58 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-28-2017 08:52 PM)Lush Wrote:  not disagreeing with you. just no one's immune to bad luck is all i'm saying

This has nothing to do with luck and has everything to do with the left's insistence on classism and self-perpetuating victimhood.

i think it has everything to do with luck. you being a white male at this day in age is luck. these can be your dilemmas. straight white people be packing. the quote unquote developed world being caucasian illustrates what exclusive company you hold. what's so wrong with shaking your world up a bit?

No, me being a white male in this day and age is because of genetics.

Me making something out of myself despite losing my father at a young age wasn't luck either. That was hard work.

Me not falling into the trap of drugs that so many I went to school with wasn't luck either. That was self-control.

My neighbor, who is black, making something of himself wasn't luck either. That too was hard work.

In this world if you are counting on luck you'll likely never make anything of yourself. If you have the work ethic and self-discipline to see things through you'll likely succeed in life.

If you don't you make excuses and talk about "bad luck"

not exactly what i'm talking about. i'm talking about slavery and the various holocausts, genocides, etc. that's the bad luck i'm talking about. i'm not talking about you waking up and doing something about it. i'm probably not explaining myself very well, even though you wouldn't agree with me if i was completely coherent. there may come a time western civilization and all it's white people are unfairly driven underground. you'll pine for these petty squabbles. i'm not saying it should happen, i'm not saying it's fair. just saying, it could happen. but that's probably why you want to do something about it

we all see what has been and will be moving forward......shockingly, there are a plenty pale skins that are okay with that.....

what becomes tiring is the bs banter......we're flat out sick of that crap......

this is the fokking 21st century.....and trust me, I'm much more shite hammered than you are.......

Funny...My local farmers market has several black farmers selling produce.

Uncle Tomatos