(12-20-2017 03:41 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 03:06 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 12:34 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  There are quite a few D2 schools and even NAIA schools that stream their game for their fans.

Right. Actually, the vast majority of NAIA schools stream all of their games in all sports, including play by play with game status on-screen, just like real TV. And the NAIA as on organization has funded a Stretch Internet app for AppleTV, Roku and Fire TV that allows you to watch easily on a big screen, so any NAIA program streaming through Stretch is included (about 2/3rds of the total). Of course the others are mostly YouTube and Livestream, so nearly all games can be watched on a big screen.

So the NAIA has both the best and the widest streaming options available outside of what you see on any Saturday on TV. Although I am sure D2 will catch up soon.

I have always been able to watch any D2 game that I was interested in seeing. They have all been through Stretch, Facebook, Livestream, YouTube, or ESPN3. The only games I have not been able to see are the championship games that air on CBSSports Network.

Also a few have created their own Roku channel.

I'll say it. All due respect David, but if the NCAA put an indefinite moratorium on changing of conferences or divisions of any type, what would you do online?

(12-20-2017 02:31 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 12:59 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 12:21 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  What if Idaho’s president is a Washington State fan, and made the move just so that Washington State could benefit from it?? Hello, bias anyone? That is something you have to account for also . I will say that the Power 5’s spending has gotten out of hand somewhat, and could threaten March Madness. That could lead CBS to lower March Madness payouts.
However, compared to Division I, Division 2 is a media wasteland, which is why programs are even looking to leave it to begin with.

As for NFL minor leagues, thanks to the NFL’s political position, I am now not even a casual fan of the NFL anymore, and I fully intend not to watch the playoffs or even the Super Bowl.

Ok - this is one of the more bizarre posts I have seen on this site.

I think he's just imitating the craziness of the OP.

If that is the case, well done!!

(12-20-2017 05:49 PM)MylesKnight Wrote:  I'll say it. All due respect David, but if the NCAA put an indefinite moratorium on changing of conferences or divisions of any type, what would you do online?

Since when has reality played a factor?

I was intrigued until i saw DaveyboySt started this. Legit?

(12-20-2017 12:36 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Well, if there's a more reliable source than "rumors," I don't know what it is.

Of course there is. It’s miko33.

(12-20-2017 07:11 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://www.pjstar.com/sports/20170225/re...s-big-boys

The two groups would be like FBS/FCS for all sports. The restructuring would be this. Schools in the Big South, NEC, MEAC, SWAC, and others would be NCAA D1-B. They will have their own tournaments for all sports. This is for all smaller colleges and universities.

Now, the NCAA-D1-A will consists of:
AAC
ACC
Big East
Big Sky
Big 10
big 12
CAA football
c-USA
MAC
MVFC
MWC
OVC
PAC 12
SEC
Southland
Southern

The idea is strong football conferences and strong basketball conferences.

Schools like Dayton, VCU, Milwaukee, UTRGV, New Mexico State, BYU, Saint Mary's, Long Beach State, North Alabama, North Florida, FGCU, Fullerton State, Northridge State, UC-Irvine and some others may have to do something like aligning with a conference for all sports.

The other rumors is that a lot of D2 schools would be brought up to D1-B for all sports. They are the ones with the most rumors like RMAC, GNAC, Lone Star, Gulf South, GLIVC, CCAA, GAC, GLVC, MIAA, NE 10, NSIC, PWC, Peach Belt, PSAC, SIAC, and Sunshine State Conference. Schools like LIU-Post might merged with LIU-Brooklyn. Post does have football. Some of the schools in these conferences may not be able to move up, but stay in D2. The rest of D2 will merge with D3. NCAA will be down to 2 divisions with sub-divisions. It just depends on what the outcome of the restructuring would be. This would make the HBCUs in a separate D for all sports. This would unite all four HBCU conferences at D1-B level for all sports. This would also give multi-bids into the basketball tournaments. Both North Dakota State and South Dakota State have a chance now that both teams could get into the 64 team field in the same year for being in MVFC for all sports.

Linked article says nothing that is in your post.

I am Casablanca shocked

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(12-20-2017 11:54 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 10:37 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 07:53 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 07:11 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://www.pjstar.com/sports/20170225/re...s-big-boys

The two groups would be like FBS/FCS for all sports. The restructuring would be this. Schools in the Big South, NEC, MEAC, SWAC, and others would be NCAA D1-B. They will have their own tournaments for all sports. This is for all smaller colleges and universities.

Now, the NCAA-D1-A will consists of:
AAC
ACC
Big East
Big Sky
Big 10
big 12
CAA football
c-USA
MAC
MVFC
MWC
OVC
PAC 12
SEC
Southland
Southern

The idea is strong football conferences and strong basketball conferences.

Schools like Dayton, VCU, Milwaukee, UTRGV, New Mexico State, BYU, Saint Mary's, Long Beach State, North Alabama, North Florida, FGCU, Fullerton State, Northridge State, UC-Irvine and some others may have to do something like aligning with a conference for all sports.

The other rumors is that a lot of D2 schools would be brought up to D1-B for all sports. They are the ones with the most rumors like RMAC, GNAC, Lone Star, Gulf South, GLIVC, CCAA, GAC, GLVC, MIAA, NE 10, NSIC, PWC, Peach Belt, PSAC, SIAC, and Sunshine State Conference. Schools like LIU-Post might merged with LIU-Brooklyn. Post does have football. Some of the schools in these conferences may not be able to move up, but stay in D2. The rest of D2 will merge with D3. NCAA will be down to 2 divisions with sub-divisions. It just depends on what the outcome of the restructuring would be. This would make the HBCUs in a separate D for all sports. This would unite all four HBCU conferences at D1-B level for all sports. This would also give multi-bids into the basketball tournaments. Both North Dakota State and South Dakota State have a chance now that both teams could get into the 64 team field in the same year for being in MVFC for all sports.

FYI that article is almost a year old.

Almost a year but relevant.
However, there isn't going to be any D1 restructuring. Schools have a choice to move to D2 if that helps their athletics budget issue. D1 if anything will move the minimum sports to 16 or more.
Each schools will be deciding here in the next few years what is best for them. Idaho made the decision to move to FCS, other schools will have to evaluate also will either increased cost of having a D1 athletes and facilities to drops in enrollment that squeezes the colleges budget.

Idaho’s president made his decision without consulting the boosters or pretty much anyone else. This is more the exception than the rule; something kinda similar to what went down at UAB. I would not put too much stock in it.

Idaho alums that I know are very supportive of move to Big Sky, they want regional rivalries and a conference. Also, the idea of Idaho president being a WAZZU fan and moving to FCS to help the Cougs could be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read.


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(12-20-2017 07:16 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I was intrigued until i saw DaveyboySt started this. Legit?

Wow, I know the feeling. I've learned to check who's posting before reading the post. I've never blocked anyone on any message board, but I'm considering it just so I don't have to sift through his garbage.

I have to say all you guys are naysayers about what is right there in front of your face. If you looked at the thread started by Bullet about SWAC schools should not be in D1 because of their basketball records right now? There are complaints by fans from D1 schools complaining. NCAA can't boot schools out of D1 unless they lost accreditations. The last D1 they booted from the Org was Morris Brown who was D1, but lost accreditations. If the NCAA start booting these schools from D1? There would be lawsuits, and there will be a lot of stink that NCAA D1 booted all of the HBCUs out of D1. Creating this restructure of the D1 would help avoid any issues and lawsuits.

So imagined solution for imagined problems.

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(12-20-2017 03:41 PM)AZcats Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 03:06 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 12:34 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  There are quite a few D2 schools and even NAIA schools that stream their game for their fans.

Right. Actually, the vast majority of NAIA schools stream all of their games in all sports, including play by play with game status on-screen, just like real TV. And the NAIA as on organization has funded a Stretch Internet app for AppleTV, Roku and Fire TV that allows you to watch easily on a big screen, so any NAIA program streaming through Stretch is included (about 2/3rds of the total). Of course the others are mostly YouTube and Livestream, so nearly all games can be watched on a big screen.

So the NAIA has both the best and the widest streaming options available outside of what you see on any Saturday on TV. Although I am sure D2 will catch up soon.

I have always been able to watch any D2 game that I was interested in seeing. They have all been through Stretch, Facebook, Livestream, YouTube, or ESPN3. The only games I have not been able to see are the championship games that air on CBSSports Network.

My "catch up soon" remark was in regards to watching easily on a big television screen. The NAIA Network app for Stretch Internet games put a huge load of games "on TV". No casting or video cables tied a computer. A real app covering around 160 schools. Makes a huge difference.

As I am saying, schools are losing money in their athletic's department overall. Yeah, the football and men's basketball do bring in money. But,the other sports, hardly people are watching, or attend. Most of the major cities are east of the Mississippi river. There is a lack of FBS schools west of the river. Plus, there is really a lack of schools at the D1 level west of the river except for California and Texas. Look at how many people live in Texas? More than the number of FBS schools. You do have many schools in some states overflowing classrooms and all that with the number of enrollments. \\I think Texas and Texas A&M seems to be competing with each other with the numbers of schools at D1 right now.

ASun and Gulf South Conference to merge would be something to look at.

North Alabama
UAH
Montevallo
West Alabama
North Florida
FGCU
Jacksonville
Stetson
Florida Tech
West Florida
Kennesaw State
West Georgia
Valdosta State
Delta State
USC-Upstate
Christian Brothers
Union, Tenn.

10 football and 17 all sports. This gives them a surplus of schools in case they get raided in the future.
Auburn-Montgomery have to go through 8 years in D2 before they can join.
Shorter may not be able to afford to move up and join the Peach belt.
Mississippi College is not be able to join until their 8 years at D2 is over.
Lee University may not be able to afford to move to D1 and join the conference with Carson-Newman and Catawba.
Other schools I will address next.

Big South should look like this.
Augusta
Columbus State
Campbell
Charleston Southern
Gardner-Webb
Hampton U.
High Point
Liberty
Longwood
Presbyterian
Radford
UNC-Asheville
Winthrop
North Greenville
UNC-Pembroke
Robert morris
Charleston
Indiana, Pa. or Westcester
NJ Tech
This makes sure that both A-SUN and Big South have schools in case they lose schools in the future.

A-SUN football would look like this.
North Alabama
West Alabama
Kennesaw State
Valdosta state
West Alabama
West Florida
Florida Tech
Delta State
Mississippi College 8 years wait.

JacksonVille and Stetson might look at this and decides to align with this arrangement for football.

Big South football.
Campbell
Charleston Southern
Gardner Webb
Hampton U.
monmouth
North Greenville
UNC-Pembroke
Robert Morris
U. of Charleston
West Chester or Indiana PA.

Now, you do have Florida A&M and Bethune-Cookman might decide to join the A-SUN as well. Both schools have been known as FBS killers in football at times.

GNAC football along with Dixie State and Colorado Mesa from RMAC to join the WAC. You could also add Colo. State-Pueblo and West Texas A&M as well.

WAC could look like this in the future.
Alaska
Cal. Baptist
Azusa Pacific
Humboldt State
Grand Canyon U.
Colorado mesa
Colo. State-Pueblo
Simon Fraser
New Mexico State (FBS football Independent.)
Western oregon
West texas A&M
Dallas baptist
Midwestern State
Angelo State
UTRGV
dixie State
Utah Valley
Central Washington
Western Washington
Seattle

WAC FCS football
Azusa Pacific
humboldt State
Western oregon
Simon Fraser
Colorado Mesa
Colorado state-Pueblo
Dixie State
West Texas A&M
Angelo State
Midwestern State
Central Washington

11 football schools.
UTRGV and West texas A&M could go FBS in the future.
Chicago State drops to D2.
UMKC goes to the Summit. This would stabilized the WAC.

Oh my...

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(12-21-2017 09:15 AM)panama Wrote:  Oh my...

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Copy-pasta is filling.

Can we lock threads based on someone's fantasy world with zero facts?

Please. Someone, just make it stop. This has gotten beyond ridiculous.

(12-21-2017 04:36 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  As I am saying, schools are losing money in their athletic's department overall. Yeah, the football and men's basketball do bring in money. But,the other sports, hardly people are watching, or attend. Most of the major cities are east of the Mississippi river. There is a lack of FBS schools west of the river. Plus, there is really a lack of schools at the D1 level west of the river except for California and Texas. Look at how many people live in Texas? More than the number of FBS schools. You do have many schools in some states overflowing classrooms and all that with the number of enrollments. \\I think Texas and Texas A&M seems to be competing with each other with the numbers of schools at D1 right now.

ASun and Gulf South Conference to merge would be something to look at.

North Alabama
UAH
Montevallo
West Alabama
North Florida
FGCU
Jacksonville
Stetson
Florida Tech
West Florida
Kennesaw State
West Georgia
Valdosta State
Delta State
USC-Upstate
Christian Brothers
Union, Tenn.

10 football and 17 all sports. This gives them a surplus of schools in case they get raided in the future.
Auburn-Montgomery have to go through 8 years in D2 before they can join.
Shorter may not be able to afford to move up and join the Peach belt.
Mississippi College is not be able to join until their 8 years at D2 is over.
Lee University may not be able to afford to move to D1 and join the conference with Carson-Newman and Catawba.
Other schools I will address next.

Big South should look like this.
Augusta
Columbus State
Campbell
Charleston Southern
Gardner-Webb
Hampton U.
High Point
Liberty
Longwood
Presbyterian
Radford
UNC-Asheville
Winthrop
North Greenville
UNC-Pembroke
Robert morris
Charleston
Indiana, Pa. or Westcester
NJ Tech
This makes sure that both A-SUN and Big South have schools in case they lose schools in the future.

A-SUN football would look like this.
North Alabama
West Alabama
Kennesaw State
Valdosta state
West Alabama
West Florida
Florida Tech
Delta State
Mississippi College 8 years wait.

JacksonVille and Stetson might look at this and decides to align with this arrangement for football.

Big South football.
Campbell
Charleston Southern
Gardner Webb
Hampton U.
monmouth
North Greenville
UNC-Pembroke
Robert Morris
U. of Charleston
West Chester or Indiana PA.

Now, you do have Florida A&M and Bethune-Cookman might decide to join the A-SUN as well. Both schools have been known as FBS killers in football at times.

GNAC football along with Dixie State and Colorado Mesa from RMAC to join the WAC. You could also add Colo. State-Pueblo and West Texas A&M as well.

WAC could look like this in the future.
Alaska
Cal. Baptist
Azusa Pacific
Humboldt State
Grand Canyon U.
Colorado mesa
Colo. State-Pueblo
Simon Fraser
New Mexico State (FBS football Independent.)
Western oregon
West texas A&M
Dallas baptist
Midwestern State
Angelo State
UTRGV
dixie State
Utah Valley
Central Washington
Western Washington
Seattle

WAC FCS football
Azusa Pacific
humboldt State
Western oregon
Simon Fraser
Colorado Mesa
Colorado state-Pueblo
Dixie State
West Texas A&M
Angelo State
Midwestern State
Central Washington

11 football schools.
UTRGV and West texas A&M could go FBS in the future.
Chicago State drops to D2.
UMKC goes to the Summit. This would stabilized the WAC.

When I seen the OP, I thought you might actually be onto something, but this last bit with the 432 team WAC blows all credibility out of the water.


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Western D2 schools all move to become the WAC. Shake my head at that.