http://www.pjstar.com/sports/20170225/re...s-big-boys

The two groups would be like FBS/FCS for all sports. The restructuring would be this. Schools in the Big South, NEC, MEAC, SWAC, and others would be NCAA D1-B. They will have their own tournaments for all sports. This is for all smaller colleges and universities.

Now, the NCAA-D1-A will consists of:
AAC
ACC
Big East
Big Sky
Big 10
big 12
CAA football
c-USA
MAC
MVFC
MWC
OVC
PAC 12
SEC
Southland
Southern

The idea is strong football conferences and strong basketball conferences.

Schools like Dayton, VCU, Milwaukee, UTRGV, New Mexico State, BYU, Saint Mary's, Long Beach State, North Alabama, North Florida, FGCU, Fullerton State, Northridge State, UC-Irvine and some others may have to do something like aligning with a conference for all sports.

The other rumors is that a lot of D2 schools would be brought up to D1-B for all sports. They are the ones with the most rumors like RMAC, GNAC, Lone Star, Gulf South, GLIVC, CCAA, GAC, GLVC, MIAA, NE 10, NSIC, PWC, Peach Belt, PSAC, SIAC, and Sunshine State Conference. Schools like LIU-Post might merged with LIU-Brooklyn. Post does have football. Some of the schools in these conferences may not be able to move up, but stay in D2. The rest of D2 will merge with D3. NCAA will be down to 2 divisions with sub-divisions. It just depends on what the outcome of the restructuring would be. This would make the HBCUs in a separate D for all sports. This would unite all four HBCU conferences at D1-B level for all sports. This would also give multi-bids into the basketball tournaments. Both North Dakota State and South Dakota State have a chance now that both teams could get into the 64 team field in the same year for being in MVFC for all sports.

(12-20-2017 07:11 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://www.pjstar.com/sports/20170225/re...s-big-boys

The two groups would be like FBS/FCS for all sports. The restructuring would be this. Schools in the Big South, NEC, MEAC, SWAC, and others would be NCAA D1-B. They will have their own tournaments for all sports. This is for all smaller colleges and universities.

Now, the NCAA-D1-A will consists of:
AAC
ACC
Big East
Big Sky
Big 10
big 12
CAA football
c-USA
MAC
MVFC
MWC
OVC
PAC 12
SEC
Southland
Southern

The idea is strong football conferences and strong basketball conferences.

Schools like Dayton, VCU, Milwaukee, UTRGV, New Mexico State, BYU, Saint Mary's, Long Beach State, North Alabama, North Florida, FGCU, Fullerton State, Northridge State, UC-Irvine and some others may have to do something like aligning with a conference for all sports.

The other rumors is that a lot of D2 schools would be brought up to D1-B for all sports. They are the ones with the most rumors like RMAC, GNAC, Lone Star, Gulf South, GLIVC, CCAA, GAC, GLVC, MIAA, NE 10, NSIC, PWC, Peach Belt, PSAC, SIAC, and Sunshine State Conference. Schools like LIU-Post might merged with LIU-Brooklyn. Post does have football. Some of the schools in these conferences may not be able to move up, but stay in D2. The rest of D2 will merge with D3. NCAA will be down to 2 divisions with sub-divisions. It just depends on what the outcome of the restructuring would be. This would make the HBCUs in a separate D for all sports. This would unite all four HBCU conferences at D1-B level for all sports. This would also give multi-bids into the basketball tournaments. Both North Dakota State and South Dakota State have a chance now that both teams could get into the 64 team field in the same year for being in MVFC for all sports.

FYI that article is almost a year old.

(12-20-2017 07:53 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 07:11 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://www.pjstar.com/sports/20170225/re...s-big-boys

The two groups would be like FBS/FCS for all sports. The restructuring would be this. Schools in the Big South, NEC, MEAC, SWAC, and others would be NCAA D1-B. They will have their own tournaments for all sports. This is for all smaller colleges and universities.

Now, the NCAA-D1-A will consists of:
AAC
ACC
Big East
Big Sky
Big 10
big 12
CAA football
c-USA
MAC
MVFC
MWC
OVC
PAC 12
SEC
Southland
Southern

The idea is strong football conferences and strong basketball conferences.

Schools like Dayton, VCU, Milwaukee, UTRGV, New Mexico State, BYU, Saint Mary's, Long Beach State, North Alabama, North Florida, FGCU, Fullerton State, Northridge State, UC-Irvine and some others may have to do something like aligning with a conference for all sports.

The other rumors is that a lot of D2 schools would be brought up to D1-B for all sports. They are the ones with the most rumors like RMAC, GNAC, Lone Star, Gulf South, GLIVC, CCAA, GAC, GLVC, MIAA, NE 10, NSIC, PWC, Peach Belt, PSAC, SIAC, and Sunshine State Conference. Schools like LIU-Post might merged with LIU-Brooklyn. Post does have football. Some of the schools in these conferences may not be able to move up, but stay in D2. The rest of D2 will merge with D3. NCAA will be down to 2 divisions with sub-divisions. It just depends on what the outcome of the restructuring would be. This would make the HBCUs in a separate D for all sports. This would unite all four HBCU conferences at D1-B level for all sports. This would also give multi-bids into the basketball tournaments. Both North Dakota State and South Dakota State have a chance now that both teams could get into the 64 team field in the same year for being in MVFC for all sports.

FYI that article is almost a year old.

Almost a year but relevant.
However, there isn't going to be any D1 restructuring. Schools have a choice to move to D2 if that helps their athletics budget issue. D1 if anything will move the minimum sports to 16 or more.
Each schools will be deciding here in the next few years what is best for them. Idaho made the decision to move to FCS, other schools will have to evaluate also will either increased cost of having a D1 athletes and facilities to drops in enrollment that squeezes the colleges budget.

(12-20-2017 10:37 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 07:53 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 07:11 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://www.pjstar.com/sports/20170225/re...s-big-boys

The two groups would be like FBS/FCS for all sports. The restructuring would be this. Schools in the Big South, NEC, MEAC, SWAC, and others would be NCAA D1-B. They will have their own tournaments for all sports. This is for all smaller colleges and universities.

Now, the NCAA-D1-A will consists of:
AAC
ACC
Big East
Big Sky
Big 10
big 12
CAA football
c-USA
MAC
MVFC
MWC
OVC
PAC 12
SEC
Southland
Southern

The idea is strong football conferences and strong basketball conferences.

Schools like Dayton, VCU, Milwaukee, UTRGV, New Mexico State, BYU, Saint Mary's, Long Beach State, North Alabama, North Florida, FGCU, Fullerton State, Northridge State, UC-Irvine and some others may have to do something like aligning with a conference for all sports.

The other rumors is that a lot of D2 schools would be brought up to D1-B for all sports. They are the ones with the most rumors like RMAC, GNAC, Lone Star, Gulf South, GLIVC, CCAA, GAC, GLVC, MIAA, NE 10, NSIC, PWC, Peach Belt, PSAC, SIAC, and Sunshine State Conference. Schools like LIU-Post might merged with LIU-Brooklyn. Post does have football. Some of the schools in these conferences may not be able to move up, but stay in D2. The rest of D2 will merge with D3. NCAA will be down to 2 divisions with sub-divisions. It just depends on what the outcome of the restructuring would be. This would make the HBCUs in a separate D for all sports. This would unite all four HBCU conferences at D1-B level for all sports. This would also give multi-bids into the basketball tournaments. Both North Dakota State and South Dakota State have a chance now that both teams could get into the 64 team field in the same year for being in MVFC for all sports.

FYI that article is almost a year old.

Almost a year but relevant.
However, there isn't going to be any D1 restructuring. Schools have a choice to move to D2 if that helps their athletics budget issue. D1 if anything will move the minimum sports to 16 or more.
Each schools will be deciding here in the next few years what is best for them. Idaho made the decision to move to FCS, other schools will have to evaluate also will either increased cost of having a D1 athletes and facilities to drops in enrollment that squeezes the colleges budget.

The restructuring have to do with what is going on the past few years. What does that mean? Even P5 conferences do have issues that tv money can't fixed like what is happening in the PAC 12 right now, not all schools in the conference sponsor a sport, the travel cost, fans showing up to games, CTE, CoAs, and many other issues that is popping up the past few years. SEC schools may not be hurting, but maybe Vanderbilt is. Several ACC schools having issues filling their stadiums for football games when half the stadium is emptied. PAC 12 schools have a lack of power 5 programs in their region. Now, if more schools move up to D1 on the west coast and central plains area? You do have more schools to play like for baseball, wrestling, and so forth. It could make it better. I would like to see an Azusa Pacific Vs UCLA game in football in the future. Remember? California dropped baseball, but some famous former MLB players came forward to raise money to save the program several years ago. The issue is more cost savings for the sports that do not make money if this restructuring takes place.

(12-20-2017 11:30 AM)DavidSt Wrote:   I would like to see an Azusa Pacific Vs UCLA game in football in the future.

And the vast majority of us on here would like for you to stop making nonsensical posts. Neither one is going to happen.

(12-20-2017 10:37 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 07:53 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 07:11 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://www.pjstar.com/sports/20170225/re...s-big-boys

The two groups would be like FBS/FCS for all sports. The restructuring would be this. Schools in the Big South, NEC, MEAC, SWAC, and others would be NCAA D1-B. They will have their own tournaments for all sports. This is for all smaller colleges and universities.

Now, the NCAA-D1-A will consists of:
AAC
ACC
Big East
Big Sky
Big 10
big 12
CAA football
c-USA
MAC
MVFC
MWC
OVC
PAC 12
SEC
Southland
Southern

The idea is strong football conferences and strong basketball conferences.

Schools like Dayton, VCU, Milwaukee, UTRGV, New Mexico State, BYU, Saint Mary's, Long Beach State, North Alabama, North Florida, FGCU, Fullerton State, Northridge State, UC-Irvine and some others may have to do something like aligning with a conference for all sports.

The other rumors is that a lot of D2 schools would be brought up to D1-B for all sports. They are the ones with the most rumors like RMAC, GNAC, Lone Star, Gulf South, GLIVC, CCAA, GAC, GLVC, MIAA, NE 10, NSIC, PWC, Peach Belt, PSAC, SIAC, and Sunshine State Conference. Schools like LIU-Post might merged with LIU-Brooklyn. Post does have football. Some of the schools in these conferences may not be able to move up, but stay in D2. The rest of D2 will merge with D3. NCAA will be down to 2 divisions with sub-divisions. It just depends on what the outcome of the restructuring would be. This would make the HBCUs in a separate D for all sports. This would unite all four HBCU conferences at D1-B level for all sports. This would also give multi-bids into the basketball tournaments. Both North Dakota State and South Dakota State have a chance now that both teams could get into the 64 team field in the same year for being in MVFC for all sports.

FYI that article is almost a year old.

Almost a year but relevant.
However, there isn't going to be any D1 restructuring. Schools have a choice to move to D2 if that helps their athletics budget issue. D1 if anything will move the minimum sports to 16 or more.
Each schools will be deciding here in the next few years what is best for them. Idaho made the decision to move to FCS, other schools will have to evaluate also will either increased cost of having a D1 athletes and facilities to drops in enrollment that squeezes the colleges budget.

Idaho’s president made his decision without consulting the boosters or pretty much anyone else. This is more the exception than the rule; something kinda similar to what went down at UAB. I would not put too much stock in it.

(12-20-2017 11:54 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 10:37 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 07:53 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 07:11 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://www.pjstar.com/sports/20170225/re...s-big-boys

The two groups would be like FBS/FCS for all sports. The restructuring would be this. Schools in the Big South, NEC, MEAC, SWAC, and others would be NCAA D1-B. They will have their own tournaments for all sports. This is for all smaller colleges and universities.

Now, the NCAA-D1-A will consists of:
AAC
ACC
Big East
Big Sky
Big 10
big 12
CAA football
c-USA
MAC
MVFC
MWC
OVC
PAC 12
SEC
Southland
Southern

The idea is strong football conferences and strong basketball conferences.

Schools like Dayton, VCU, Milwaukee, UTRGV, New Mexico State, BYU, Saint Mary's, Long Beach State, North Alabama, North Florida, FGCU, Fullerton State, Northridge State, UC-Irvine and some others may have to do something like aligning with a conference for all sports.

The other rumors is that a lot of D2 schools would be brought up to D1-B for all sports. They are the ones with the most rumors like RMAC, GNAC, Lone Star, Gulf South, GLIVC, CCAA, GAC, GLVC, MIAA, NE 10, NSIC, PWC, Peach Belt, PSAC, SIAC, and Sunshine State Conference. Schools like LIU-Post might merged with LIU-Brooklyn. Post does have football. Some of the schools in these conferences may not be able to move up, but stay in D2. The rest of D2 will merge with D3. NCAA will be down to 2 divisions with sub-divisions. It just depends on what the outcome of the restructuring would be. This would make the HBCUs in a separate D for all sports. This would unite all four HBCU conferences at D1-B level for all sports. This would also give multi-bids into the basketball tournaments. Both North Dakota State and South Dakota State have a chance now that both teams could get into the 64 team field in the same year for being in MVFC for all sports.

FYI that article is almost a year old.

Almost a year but relevant.
However, there isn't going to be any D1 restructuring. Schools have a choice to move to D2 if that helps their athletics budget issue. D1 if anything will move the minimum sports to 16 or more.
Each schools will be deciding here in the next few years what is best for them. Idaho made the decision to move to FCS, other schools will have to evaluate also will either increased cost of having a D1 athletes and facilities to drops in enrollment that squeezes the colleges budget.

Idaho’s president made his decision without consulting the boosters or pretty much anyone else. This is more the exception than the rule; something kinda similar to what went down at UAB. I would not put too much stock in it.

Idaho's president didn't have to consult with the boosters, he makes the decision on how to run the university and how much subsidies are use for athletics. He made the decision he thought was best for his school that they are better off not being Indy and dropping to FCS.

University presidents don't need boosters making decisions for them regarding athletics, they are there first and foremost to run the what the school is for and that is academics. In addition, these smaller schools are under even more pressure from budgets (even the private ones) as enrollment drops and athletics takes a bigger chunk of the budget each passing year when it can be spent on other thing to actually help the students that attend a school.

If the Bradley University president sees how they can't compete athletically and getting hurt more financially the have to re-evaluate what is best for them. If the athletics budget comes at a cost to where student amenities can't be improved or provided, it's a decision to make for the general student population even if it means dropping down to where the budget fits them and where they can compete at a level that can drive more interest.

What if Idaho’s president is a Washington State fan, and made the move just so that Washington State could benefit from it?? Hello, bias anyone? That is something you have to account for also . I will say that the Power 5’s spending has gotten out of hand somewhat, and could threaten March Madness. That could lead CBS to lower March Madness payouts.
However, compared to Division I, Division 2 is a media wasteland, which is why programs are even looking to leave it to begin with.

(12-20-2017 12:21 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  What if Idaho’s president is a Washington State fan, and made the move just so that Washington State could benefit from it?? Hello, bias anyone? That is something you have to account for also . The Power 5’s spending has gotten out of hand somewhat, and could threaten March Madness. That could lead CBS to lower March Madness payouts.
Compared to Division I, Division 2 is a media wasteland, which is why programs are even looking to leave it to begin with.

As for NFL minor leagues, thanks to the NFL’s political position, I am now not even a casual fan of the NFL anymore, and I fully intend not to watch the playoffs or even the Super Bowl.

The vast majority of D1 schools are in the media wasteland so being in Division 2 isn't going to be much different.
However, the streaming of games is leveling the field for access. There are quite a few D2 schools and even NAIA schools that stream their game for their fans. Not to long ago, an alumni or fan of a lower division school wouldn't have had an option to watch a game. That is now possible in the digital age. The digital age is going to transform viewing opportunities for the lower D1 and lower Divisions.

Well, if there's a more reliable source than "rumors," I don't know what it is.

(12-20-2017 12:21 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  What if Idaho’s president is a Washington State fan, and made the move just so that Washington State could benefit from it?? Hello, bias anyone? That is something you have to account for also . I will say that the Power 5’s spending has gotten out of hand somewhat, and could threaten March Madness. That could lead CBS to lower March Madness payouts.
However, compared to Division I, Division 2 is a media wasteland, which is why programs are even looking to leave it to begin with.

As for NFL minor leagues, thanks to the NFL’s political position, I am now not even a casual fan of the NFL anymore, and I fully intend not to watch the playoffs or even the Super Bowl.

Ok - this is one of the more bizarre posts I have seen on this site.

Pretty obvious what his points are.

(12-20-2017 07:53 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  FYI that article is almost a year old.

Also bears no relation to anything DavidSt said. The closest it came was an online poll asking "Should the NCAA officially create a separate division for basketball, based on institutional resources?"

Everything else was DavidSt making things up.

(12-20-2017 01:58 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 07:53 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  FYI that article is almost a year old.

Also bears no relation to anything DavidSt said. The closest it came was an online poll asking "Should the NCAA officially create a separate division for basketball, based on institutional resources?"

Everything else was DavidSt making things up.

Well, not everything are rumors or made up. You do have several Lone star schools that looking into moving up. 19 schools in that conference is way too many unless there is something coming down the line that several of them are moving to D1.

Merrimack, Bentley and Southern New Hampshire looking to join one of the northeast based conferences.

Columbus State, Augusta and Indiana-Pa looking to join D1.
Southern Indiana to D1 in the future?
Bellarmine wants to add women's LAX and wants it to be in D1. That sport is not even grandfathered in like their men's team.
Some Gulf South Conference schools could follow North Alabama to d1.
Southland have been targeting Central Oklahoma for awhile.
WAC looking to expand even more.

(12-20-2017 12:59 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 12:21 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  What if Idaho’s president is a Washington State fan, and made the move just so that Washington State could benefit from it?? Hello, bias anyone? That is something you have to account for also . I will say that the Power 5’s spending has gotten out of hand somewhat, and could threaten March Madness. That could lead CBS to lower March Madness payouts.
However, compared to Division I, Division 2 is a media wasteland, which is why programs are even looking to leave it to begin with.

As for NFL minor leagues, thanks to the NFL’s political position, I am now not even a casual fan of the NFL anymore, and I fully intend not to watch the playoffs or even the Super Bowl.

Ok - this is one of the more bizarre posts I have seen on this site.

I think he's just imitating the craziness of the OP.

(12-20-2017 02:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 01:58 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 07:53 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  FYI that article is almost a year old.

Also bears no relation to anything DavidSt said. The closest it came was an online poll asking "Should the NCAA officially create a separate division for basketball, based on institutional resources?"

Everything else was DavidSt making things up.

Well, not everything are rumors or made up.

Nothing you mentioned is mentioned in the article.

When you post a link, you're implying that the link supports the thing you are saying. Many times people won't click the link, and assume that the article you're linking to says the things you're saying. And it doesn't--not even close.

Stop doing that.

(12-20-2017 12:34 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  There are quite a few D2 schools and even NAIA schools that stream their game for their fans.

Right. Actually, the vast majority of NAIA schools stream all of their games in all sports, including play by play with game status on-screen, just like real TV. And the NAIA as on organization has funded a Stretch Internet app for AppleTV, Roku and Fire TV that allows you to watch easily on a big screen, so any NAIA program streaming through Stretch is included (about 2/3rds of the total). Of course the others are mostly YouTube and Livestream, so nearly all games can be watched on a big screen.

So the NAIA has both the best and the widest streaming options available outside of what you see on any Saturday on TV. Although I am sure D2 will catch up soon.

(12-20-2017 02:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 01:58 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 07:53 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  FYI that article is almost a year old.

Also bears no relation to anything DavidSt said. The closest it came was an online poll asking "Should the NCAA officially create a separate division for basketball, based on institutional resources?"

Everything else was DavidSt making things up.

Well, not everything are rumors or made up. You do have several Lone star schools that looking into moving up. 19 schools in that conference is way too many unless there is something coming down the line that several of them are moving to D1.

Merrimack, Bentley and Southern New Hampshire looking to join one of the northeast based conferences.

Columbus State, Augusta and Indiana-Pa looking to join D1.
Southern Indiana to D1 in the future?
Bellarmine wants to add women's LAX and wants it to be in D1. That sport is not even grandfathered in like their men's team.
Some Gulf South Conference schools could follow North Alabama to d1.
Southland have been targeting Central Oklahoma for awhile.
WAC looking to expand even more.

Everything you post is fiction. Tarleton State is the only LSC school doing any looking at a possible D1 move. The new LSC additions has nothing to do with might happen in your future fantasy. Volleyball is a big collegiate sport for women and Columbus Stat just dropped it, which is the second sport the school has dropped in the last 2 years. That is major evidence that they are NOT looking to join D1.

You have not stated one thing that was in the article. D2 was mentioned exactly once and it was about schools LEAVING D1.

Quote:Such changes could run the gamut from a split of Division I basketball and other sports into two divisions (such as already exists in football) to individual schools deciding unilaterally to downsize to the less expensive worlds of Division II or III.

(12-20-2017 02:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 01:58 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 07:53 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  FYI that article is almost a year old.

Also bears no relation to anything DavidSt said. The closest it came was an online poll asking "Should the NCAA officially create a separate division for basketball, based on institutional resources?"

Everything else was DavidSt making things up.

Well, not everything are rumors or made up. You do have several Lone star schools that looking into moving up. 19 schools in that conference is way too many unless there is something coming down the line that several of them are moving to D1.

Merrimack, Bentley and Southern New Hampshire looking to join one of the northeast based conferences.

Columbus State, Augusta and Indiana-Pa looking to join D1.
Southern Indiana to D1 in the future?
Bellarmine wants to add women's LAX and wants it to be in D1. That sport is not even grandfathered in like their men's team.
Some Gulf South Conference schools could follow North Alabama to d1.
Southland have been targeting Central Oklahoma for awhile.
WAC looking to expand even more.

More fantasy..... with zero facts.

(12-20-2017 03:06 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 12:34 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  There are quite a few D2 schools and even NAIA schools that stream their game for their fans.

Right. Actually, the vast majority of NAIA schools stream all of their games in all sports, including play by play with game status on-screen, just like real TV. And the NAIA as on organization has funded a Stretch Internet app for AppleTV, Roku and Fire TV that allows you to watch easily on a big screen, so any NAIA program streaming through Stretch is included (about 2/3rds of the total). Of course the others are mostly YouTube and Livestream, so nearly all games can be watched on a big screen.

So the NAIA has both the best and the widest streaming options available outside of what you see on any Saturday on TV. Although I am sure D2 will catch up soon.

I have always been able to watch any D2 game that I was interested in seeing. They have all been through Stretch, Facebook, Livestream, YouTube, or ESPN3. The only games I have not been able to see are the championship games that air on CBSSports Network.