(12-13-2017 01:12 AM)payday Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 01:08 AM)gerhard911 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 12:58 AM)payday Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 12:45 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 12:42 AM)payday Wrote:  I know their schedule. And the SEC isn’t so much this year. Who knows how they’ll fare. Should be a good RPI win. Beat ucla and we’re on our way to an AAC title. I haven’t thrown in the towel like the UC boo birds in here.

As far as I can tell no one has thrown any towels. Beat UCLA and we are on our way to a championship? You just channeled Duane. Nice job!

What’s your beef with Duane? He’s brighter than you are.

Please give your uncle my congratulations on tonight's tremendous win before you bed down in his basement.

Back from tossing court side spit balls at Cronin I see...

I have to admit. You are consistent In your fandom for all things Cronin.

What's everyones thoughts on the reserve big guys (Brooks, Scott, Diarra, Eli Nsosome)?

It short spurts we saw of Brooks, I thought he would be pretty decent but just not seeing it this year. I'd say Eli is the only one that has showed anything and he didn't get a minute last night. Not sure what we are going to do next year when are starting 4 and 5 will be Scott and Brooks.

(12-13-2017 01:21 AM)gerhard911 Wrote:  Good news is, we are also too far away to suffer Mick's constant barrage of F bombs directed at his players.

Did you have the same seat while Huggins was around? If so, were you able to hear HIS f-bombs?

(12-13-2017 06:27 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 01:21 AM)gerhard911 Wrote:  Good news is, we are also too far away to suffer Mick's constant barrage of F bombs directed at his players.

Did you have the same seat while Huggins was around? If so, were you able to hear HIS f-bombs?

I know AK and FM came after Mick, but could you imagine reffing a game with a sideline of Bob, Mick, Frank, and AK at the same time.

You have to admit that Cronin mean scowl is kind of funny on a 5' 6" guy.

Come on man 5'6" guys are not very scary.

(12-13-2017 05:20 AM)jarr Wrote:  What's everyones thoughts on the reserve big guys (Brooks, Scott, Diarra, Eli Nsosome)?

It short spurts we saw of Brooks, I thought he would be pretty decent but just not seeing it this year. I'd say Eli is the only one that has showed anything and he didn't get a minute last night. Not sure what we are going to do next year when are starting 4 and 5 will be Scott and Brooks.

I like all of them. I've seen Brooks and Scott do somethings this year they wouldn't have been able to last year. However I don't ever see double digit scorers out of Brooks, Scott, or Nsoseme. Diarra is an important player because he has real offensive talent.

(12-13-2017 05:20 AM)jarr Wrote:  What's everyones thoughts on the reserve big guys (Brooks, Scott, Diarra, Eli Nsosome)?

It short spurts we saw of Brooks, I thought he would be pretty decent but just not seeing it this year. I'd say Eli is the only one that has showed anything and he didn't get a minute last night. Not sure what we are going to do next year when are starting 4 and 5 will be Scott and Brooks.

At this point, they certainly all play like "reserves" and I'm trying to imagine this front line without Clark rebounding and Washington, though erratic, getting hot and putting the ball in the basket. If this year's team is proving to be worrisome, I'd be more concerned about next season unless there is some 4/5 ready now transfer or superstar frosh ready to sign.

Noticed JJ looking over his shoulder to the bench several possessions after crossing half court. Is that still necessary? I don't think I ever observed the MSU guards doing that. Overall, better defense and toughness last night but the offense is clearly hampered right now by Cumberland's shooting. If that comes around Saturday, they'll take down UCLA. If not, it will be yet another missed opportunity.

Finally, to a comment earlier about the players becoming immune to all the shouting and f bombs from coaches, I agree. At some point players are just tuning it out. That doesn't mean they're having fun out there though. And it wouldn't excite me as a prized recruit when evaluating a program where I might want to play.

I didn't watch last night, but up until that point Scott had been absolutely horrible all season. His baseline defense is terrible and he has zero offensive skills.

(12-13-2017 07:53 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:20 AM)jarr Wrote:  What's everyones thoughts on the reserve big guys (Brooks, Scott, Diarra, Eli Nsosome)?

It short spurts we saw of Brooks, I thought he would be pretty decent but just not seeing it this year. I'd say Eli is the only one that has showed anything and he didn't get a minute last night. Not sure what we are going to do next year when are starting 4 and 5 will be Scott and Brooks.

I like all of them. I've seen Brooks and Scott do somethings this year they wouldn't have been able to last year. However I don't ever see double digit scorers out of Brooks, Scott, or Nsoseme. Diarra is an important player because he has real offensive talent.

Diarra has a lot of raw ability, but is 2 years away from being a consistent offensive scorer for us. Brooks, Scott and Nsoseme are not going to be able to fill the void left after Clark and Washington leave. We are going to need to get a transfer in who can contribute right away IMHO or we are going to be in trouble.

(12-13-2017 09:34 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 07:53 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:20 AM)jarr Wrote:  What's everyones thoughts on the reserve big guys (Brooks, Scott, Diarra, Eli Nsosome)?

It short spurts we saw of Brooks, I thought he would be pretty decent but just not seeing it this year. I'd say Eli is the only one that has showed anything and he didn't get a minute last night. Not sure what we are going to do next year when are starting 4 and 5 will be Scott and Brooks.

I like all of them. I've seen Brooks and Scott do somethings this year they wouldn't have been able to last year. However I don't ever see double digit scorers out of Brooks, Scott, or Nsoseme. Diarra is an important player because he has real offensive talent.

Diarra has a lot of raw ability, but is 2 years away from being a consistent offensive scorer for us. Brooks, Scott and Nsoseme are not going to be able to fill the void left after Clark and Washington leave. We are going to need to get a transfer in who can contribute right away IMHO or we are going to be in trouble.

I agree. I'm not comparing him to Kenyon Martin in terms of talent/potential but in very limited minutes Diarra has shown some flashes of brilliance that I saw from Kenyon as a freshman all those years ago. All that is to say there may be more upside with him than the others.

(12-13-2017 09:34 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 07:53 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:20 AM)jarr Wrote:  What's everyones thoughts on the reserve big guys (Brooks, Scott, Diarra, Eli Nsosome)?

It short spurts we saw of Brooks, I thought he would be pretty decent but just not seeing it this year. I'd say Eli is the only one that has showed anything and he didn't get a minute last night. Not sure what we are going to do next year when are starting 4 and 5 will be Scott and Brooks.

I like all of them. I've seen Brooks and Scott do somethings this year they wouldn't have been able to last year. However I don't ever see double digit scorers out of Brooks, Scott, or Nsoseme. Diarra is an important player because he has real offensive talent.

Diarra has a lot of raw ability, but is 2 years away from being a consistent offensive scorer for us. Brooks, Scott and Nsoseme are not going to be able to fill the void left after Clark and Washington leave. We are going to need to get a transfer in who can contribute right away IMHO or we are going to be in trouble.

We had an NCAA team with Mbodj as our center. Not every team has consistent inside scoring. Well still be really good with Evans and Broome as seniors and Cumberland as a junior. May use some 4 guard lineups with Moore and Williams. Still a top 25 team in my opinion.

(12-13-2017 09:34 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 07:53 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:20 AM)jarr Wrote:  What's everyones thoughts on the reserve big guys (Brooks, Scott, Diarra, Eli Nsosome)?

It short spurts we saw of Brooks, I thought he would be pretty decent but just not seeing it this year. I'd say Eli is the only one that has showed anything and he didn't get a minute last night. Not sure what we are going to do next year when are starting 4 and 5 will be Scott and Brooks.

I like all of them. I've seen Brooks and Scott do somethings this year they wouldn't have been able to last year. However I don't ever see double digit scorers out of Brooks, Scott, or Nsoseme. Diarra is an important player because he has real offensive talent.

Diarra has a lot of raw ability, but is 2 years away from being a consistent offensive scorer for us. Brooks, Scott and Nsoseme are not going to be able to fill the void left after Clark and Washington leave. We are going to need to get a transfer in who can contribute right away IMHO or we are going to be in trouble.

Agreed.

(12-13-2017 10:19 AM)Marcus Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 09:34 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 07:53 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 05:20 AM)jarr Wrote:  What's everyones thoughts on the reserve big guys (Brooks, Scott, Diarra, Eli Nsosome)?

It short spurts we saw of Brooks, I thought he would be pretty decent but just not seeing it this year. I'd say Eli is the only one that has showed anything and he didn't get a minute last night. Not sure what we are going to do next year when are starting 4 and 5 will be Scott and Brooks.

I like all of them. I've seen Brooks and Scott do somethings this year they wouldn't have been able to last year. However I don't ever see double digit scorers out of Brooks, Scott, or Nsoseme. Diarra is an important player because he has real offensive talent.

Diarra has a lot of raw ability, but is 2 years away from being a consistent offensive scorer for us. Brooks, Scott and Nsoseme are not going to be able to fill the void left after Clark and Washington leave. We are going to need to get a transfer in who can contribute right away IMHO or we are going to be in trouble.

Agreed.

yup

Brooks hopefully can turn into a defensive enforcer. He does that and doesnt kill us on offense, great. Scott shouldnt be on scholarship.

(12-13-2017 09:28 AM)Marcus Wrote:  I didn't watch last night, but up until that point Scott had been absolutely horrible all season. His baseline defense is terrible and he has zero offensive skills.

Yup

i just posted he shouldnt be on scholarship. I was happy when we finally were rid of Shaq Thomas and Mick went out and got his clone.

(12-13-2017 10:41 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 09:28 AM)Marcus Wrote:  I didn't watch last night, but up until that point Scott had been absolutely horrible all season. His baseline defense is terrible and he has zero offensive skills.

Yup

i just posted he shouldnt be on scholarship. I was happy when we finally were rid of Shaq Thomas and Mick went out and got his clone.

At least Shaq was an above average defender. I just don't see anything that Scott provides right now. I thought I saw some.potential last year, but I'm not seeing it.

(12-13-2017 10:43 AM)jarr Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 10:41 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 09:28 AM)Marcus Wrote:  I didn't watch last night, but up until that point Scott had been absolutely horrible all season. His baseline defense is terrible and he has zero offensive skills.

Yup

i just posted he shouldnt be on scholarship. I was happy when we finally were rid of Shaq Thomas and Mick went out and got his clone.

At least Shaq was an above average defender. I just don't see anything that Scott provides right now. I thought I saw some.potential last year, but I'm not seeing it.

I hate being mean about the kid. I would love for him to come out and prove me wrong. I just dont understand what Mick thought he would bring to the table.

Didn't get the chance to watch the game. What is the general consensus? Easy game vs a P5 team - yes - but a relatively bum squad? Or....did we flash anything for real?



mc

(12-13-2017 11:05 AM)marcuscan Wrote:  Didn't get the chance to watch the game. What is the general consensus? Easy game vs a P5 team - yes - but a relatively bum squad? Or....did we flash anything for real?



mc

msu is fools gold. As for the bearcats, you will probably see some variance in opinions save for Jarron. i think the consensus on Jarron is that he's been incredibly poor this season, and last night was a microcosm for everything he's been doing wrong.

I think it's clear defense has been a huge emphasis since the Xavier game, because UC was excellent again on that end tonight. Offense is still struggling, a lot of that is UC keeps getting so little from Cumberland and the non-Evans guards. That needs to improve. Clark was a force in almost every aspect of the game. A good effort overall, but they need Cumberland to give them much more to reach their potential. If he starts being a factor on offense again, you'll see UC start scoring better.

(12-13-2017 11:26 AM)eroc Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 11:05 AM)marcuscan Wrote:  Didn't get the chance to watch the game. What is the general consensus? Easy game vs a P5 team - yes - but a relatively bum squad? Or....did we flash anything for real?



mc

msu is fools gold. As for the bearcats, you will probably see some variance in opinions save for Jarron. i think the consensus on Jarron is that he's been incredibly poor this season, and last night was a microcosm for everything he's been doing wrong.

Yes on Cumberland.

lazy play, sloppy passes just stood there and watched an alley oop dunk go right over him. Just acts like he doesnt give a crap. Total liability out there right now. I was watching his body language and wondering if he is playing hurt or if he is having girlfriend issues or what. Not the same player as last year or even earlier THIS year.