(12-02-2017 01:38 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 07:25 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:08 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  From what I'm to understand, he was playing with the gun, the gun accidentally goes off, the bullet strikes a concrete pier, ricochets off, and kills the young lady. Are those the facts? If so, charging him with murder was a reach beyond belief. He should have been charged with a lesser crime. No jury in their right mind would convict someone on a murder charge based on that evidence. No way in hell would I have found him guilty of murder either. Reckless endangerment causing the death of or something similar.

You do realize the jury acquitted him of 2nd degree murder AND Involuntary Man Slaughter as well? You do realize in many states you can be charged with Involuntary Man Slaughter if you're the at fault driver in a car accident when someone dies. His reckless actions at a minimum are equal to that.

I can understand reasonable doubt in the murder and overzealous prosecutors (see George Zimmerman), but since he said he shot the gun, how can he not be guilty of involuntary manslaughter????

Same reason Hillary is not in leg irons....didn't intend to fire the gun I guess.

An illegal felon in possession of a gun kills an innocent women.

And we're supposed to listen to all the "gun control" non sense from the same crowd who defend his innocence?

Pass.

"build the wall" just became a public safety issue.

Looks like the Feds are going to charge him.

(12-04-2017 11:06 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Looks like the Feds are going to charge him.

Yep

Federal charges levied against undocumented immigrant found not guilty in murder of Kate Steinle

Quote:A federal grand jury issued an indictment on Tuesday against Jose Inez Garcia Zarate, the undocumented immigrant who was acquitted on state charges of murder and manslaughter last week in the shooting of Kate Steinle.

The Mexican national will now face new immigration and gun charges as announced by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Attorney for the Northern District of California Brian Stretch and ATF Special Agent in Charge Jill Snyder.

Detailed in a press release issued by the Department of Justice’s Northern District of California, the indictment against Garcia Zarate is for being a felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition and for being an illegal alien in possession of a firearm and ammunition. If convicted of the charges, the 47-year-old Garcia Zarate faces a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison.

(12-06-2017 09:12 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:06 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Looks like the Feds are going to charge him.

Yep

Federal charges levied against undocumented immigrant found not guilty in murder of Kate Steinle

Quote:A federal grand jury issued an indictment on Tuesday against Jose Inez Garcia Zarate, the undocumented immigrant who was acquitted on state charges of murder and manslaughter last week in the shooting of Kate Steinle.

The Mexican national will now face new immigration and gun charges as announced by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Attorney for the Northern District of California Brian Stretch and ATF Special Agent in Charge Jill Snyder.

Detailed in a press release issued by the Department of Justice’s Northern District of California, the indictment against Garcia Zarate is for being a felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition and for being an illegal alien in possession of a firearm and ammunition. If convicted of the charges, the 47-year-old Garcia Zarate faces a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison.

just 10 years in prison? damn, thats a pretty light sentence

(12-06-2017 09:39 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:12 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:06 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Looks like the Feds are going to charge him.

Yep

Federal charges levied against undocumented immigrant found not guilty in murder of Kate Steinle

Quote:A federal grand jury issued an indictment on Tuesday against Jose Inez Garcia Zarate, the undocumented immigrant who was acquitted on state charges of murder and manslaughter last week in the shooting of Kate Steinle.

The Mexican national will now face new immigration and gun charges as announced by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Attorney for the Northern District of California Brian Stretch and ATF Special Agent in Charge Jill Snyder.

Detailed in a press release issued by the Department of Justice’s Northern District of California, the indictment against Garcia Zarate is for being a felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition and for being an illegal alien in possession of a firearm and ammunition. If convicted of the charges, the 47-year-old Garcia Zarate faces a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison.

just 10 years in prison? damn, thats a pretty light sentence

No...it's not. The charge has nothing to due with the tragic death of the girl. You have to separate the two.

(12-06-2017 10:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:39 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:12 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:06 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Looks like the Feds are going to charge him.

Yep

Federal charges levied against undocumented immigrant found not guilty in murder of Kate Steinle

Quote:A federal grand jury issued an indictment on Tuesday against Jose Inez Garcia Zarate, the undocumented immigrant who was acquitted on state charges of murder and manslaughter last week in the shooting of Kate Steinle.

The Mexican national will now face new immigration and gun charges as announced by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Attorney for the Northern District of California Brian Stretch and ATF Special Agent in Charge Jill Snyder.

Detailed in a press release issued by the Department of Justice’s Northern District of California, the indictment against Garcia Zarate is for being a felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition and for being an illegal alien in possession of a firearm and ammunition. If convicted of the charges, the 47-year-old Garcia Zarate faces a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison.

just 10 years in prison? damn, thats a pretty light sentence

No...it's not. The charge has nothing to due with the tragic death of the girl. You have to separate the two.

I am separating the two...
Illegal alien in possession of a firearm and ammunition
convicted felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition
illegal alien... all crimes right?

(12-06-2017 10:23 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:39 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 09:12 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:06 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Looks like the Feds are going to charge him.

Yep

Federal charges levied against undocumented immigrant found not guilty in murder of Kate Steinle

Quote:A federal grand jury issued an indictment on Tuesday against Jose Inez Garcia Zarate, the undocumented immigrant who was acquitted on state charges of murder and manslaughter last week in the shooting of Kate Steinle.

The Mexican national will now face new immigration and gun charges as announced by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Attorney for the Northern District of California Brian Stretch and ATF Special Agent in Charge Jill Snyder.

Detailed in a press release issued by the Department of Justice’s Northern District of California, the indictment against Garcia Zarate is for being a felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition and for being an illegal alien in possession of a firearm and ammunition. If convicted of the charges, the 47-year-old Garcia Zarate faces a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison.

just 10 years in prison? damn, thats a pretty light sentence

No...it's not. The charge has nothing to due with the tragic death of the girl. You have to separate the two.

I am separating the two...
Illegal alien in possession of a firearm and ammunition
convicted felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition
illegal alien... all crimes right?

Right...and a 10 year sentence for just that, to me, seems about right. The charge is not for firing the weapon or committing any other crime with it, it's just for having it.

This man should have been in prison in the first place. This is why deportation doesn't work. If you deport them, they just come back.

(12-06-2017 10:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  This man should have been in prison in the first place. This is why deportation doesn't work. If you deport them, they just come back.

he was in jail... then san fran officials let him go.

(12-06-2017 10:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  This man should have been in prison in the first place. This is why deportation doesn't work. If you deport them, they just come back.

pssssssst. that why we're building a wall.

(12-06-2017 10:33 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  This man should have been in prison in the first place. This is why deportation doesn't work. If you deport them, they just come back.

pssssssst. that why we're building a wall.

(12-06-2017 10:29 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  This man should have been in prison in the first place. This is why deportation doesn't work. If you deport them, they just come back.

he was in jail... then san fran officials let him go.

And that's when the political bullcrap really started. See, board lefties, this is one reason why a lot of people voted for Trump. They're tired of politicians playing games with their safety. The City government of San Francisco should be ashamed of themselves. (Of course, they're not.)

(12-07-2017 01:08 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:29 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  This man should have been in prison in the first place. This is why deportation doesn't work. If you deport them, they just come back.

he was in jail... then san fran officials let him go.

And that's when the political bullcrap really started. See, board lefties, this is one reason why a lot of people voted for Trump. They're tired of politicians playing games with their safety. The City government of San Francisco should be ashamed of themselves. (Of course, they're not.)

Folks keep telling them but they don't seem to be getting why Trump won. It's all about impeaching him instead of actually learning from their mistakes. They keep making the same mistakes and don't even realize it.

(12-06-2017 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:33 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  This man should have been in prison in the first place. This is why deportation doesn't work. If you deport them, they just come back.

pssssssst. that why we're building a wall.

liberals would be much less confused about the issues if they didn't get all of their news from comedy shows.

[insert reflexive knock on foxnews here]

(12-07-2017 10:23 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:33 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  This man should have been in prison in the first place. This is why deportation doesn't work. If you deport them, they just come back.

pssssssst. that why we're building a wall.

liberals would be much less confused about the issues if they didn't get all of their news from comedy shows.

[insert reflexive knock on foxnews here]

Ridiculous. The news, if you can even call it that, was directly from trump. But you're right...that's clearly a comedy show. Nicely done to yourself.

#fail

(12-07-2017 10:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 10:23 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:33 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  This man should have been in prison in the first place. This is why deportation doesn't work. If you deport them, they just come back.

pssssssst. that why we're building a wall.

liberals would be much less confused about the issues if they didn't get all of their news from comedy shows.

[insert reflexive knock on foxnews here]

Ridiculous. The news, if you can even call it that, was directly from trump. But you're right...that's clearly a comedy show. Nicely done to yourself.

#fail

you're missing the point a lot these days. you did it with my bigfoot comment yesterday.

so, the comedy guy hacks a few seconds of soundbite out of extended comments intentionally, just to destroy the context of the words, and then proceeds to make fun of something that, as a practical matter, trump really didn't say. it's like, how comedy works.

that's SOP for your late night comedy shows, where, I will say once more, liberals seem to get all of their news these days.

(12-07-2017 10:33 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 10:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 10:23 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:33 AM)EagleX Wrote:  pssssssst. that why we're building a wall.

liberals would be much less confused about the issues if they didn't get all of their news from comedy shows.

[insert reflexive knock on foxnews here]

Ridiculous. The news, if you can even call it that, was directly from trump. But you're right...that's clearly a comedy show. Nicely done to yourself.

#fail

you're missing the point a lot these days. you did it with my bigfoot comment yesterday.

so, the comedy guy hacks a few seconds of soundbite out of extended comments intentionally, just to destroy the context of the words, and then proceeds to make fun of something that, as a practical matter, trump really didn't say. it's like, how comedy works.

that's SOP for your late night comedy shows, where, I will say once more, liberals seem to get all of their news these days.

Riiight...but James O'Keefe is credible, AMIRITE?

(12-07-2017 10:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 10:33 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 10:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 10:23 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

liberals would be much less confused about the issues if they didn't get all of their news from comedy shows.

[insert reflexive knock on foxnews here]

Ridiculous. The news, if you can even call it that, was directly from trump. But you're right...that's clearly a comedy show. Nicely done to yourself.

#fail

you're missing the point a lot these days. you did it with my bigfoot comment yesterday.

so, the comedy guy hacks a few seconds of soundbite out of extended comments intentionally, just to destroy the context of the words, and then proceeds to make fun of something that, as a practical matter, trump really didn't say. it's like, how comedy works.

that's SOP for your late night comedy shows, where, I will say once more, liberals seem to get all of their news these days.

Riiight...but James O'Keefe is credible, AMIRITE?

You know you're on the losing side of an argument when you are the only one laughing at feeble attempts at sarcasm intended to belittle the other side of that argument.