There's a story on ESPN about South Carolina students/fans throwing bottles and trash on the field.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...rash-field

A Texas A&M "fan" sent a horribly racist letter to Kevin Sumlin.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/college-...ist-letter

And it's not recent - Arizona State fans chanted "PLO" at Steve Kerr, whose father was assassinated in Beirut.

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-03-01/s...zona-state

And, of course, the Bama fan who killed the famous trees on Auburn's campus. Every team has idiot fans. Some UCF fans/students were yelling at Flowers "Where's Mommy and Daddy?" on Friday. Trust me, I know USF has their share of assh0les among their fans, too. The point here isn't to rip any single fanbase, but to ask

WHY DO WE LET PEOPLE DO SH1T LIKE THIS?!?!?

I (would like to) think that people are sports fans because of the competition, and most of us played these sports as kids (or at least through high school) and thus appreciate the games being played at their highest level. But this crap has to end. We're like one step from being the storied soccer hooligans from England.

And we wonder why some people don't like going to games any more...

USFFan

They all deserve the death penalty.

(11-26-2017 10:39 AM)usffan Wrote:  There's a story on ESPN about South Carolina students/fans throwing bottles and trash on the field.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...rash-field

A Texas A&M "fan" sent a horribly racist letter to Kevin Sumlin.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/college-...ist-letter

And it's not recent - Arizona State fans chanted "PLO" at Steve Kerr, whose father was assassinated in Beirut.

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-03-01/s...zona-state

And, of course, the Bama fan who killed the famous trees on Auburn's campus. Every team has idiot fans. Some UCF fans/students were yelling at Flowers "Where's Mommy and Daddy?" on Friday. Trust me, I know USF has their share of assh0les among their fans, too. The point here isn't to rip any single fanbase, but to ask

WHY DO WE LET PEOPLE DO SH1T LIKE THIS?!?!?

I (would like to) think that people are sports fans because of the competition, and most of us played these sports as kids (or at least through high school) and thus appreciate the games being played at their highest level. But this crap has to end. We're like one step from being the storied soccer hooligans from England.

And we wonder why some people don't like going to games any more...

USFFan

Walking through The Gamecocks parking lot after a game is ugly. Lots of rude obnoxious fans. Went. To two UCF games there and I felt intimidated both times...

Freedom of Speech cuts both ways. It's up to society to level penalties (not the government) when folks use their Freedom of Speech to spout out some silly **** that the society as a whole finds offensive. Ostracized them. Shame them. Point them out. Disavow them.

A certain school places their football program above raping kids but this stuff surprises you?

"A Texas A&M "fan" sent a horribly racist letter to Kevin Sumlin."

Fake news

(11-26-2017 10:39 AM)usffan Wrote:  There's a story on ESPN about South Carolina students/fans throwing bottles and trash on the field.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...rash-field

A Texas A&M "fan" sent a horribly racist letter to Kevin Sumlin.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/college-...ist-letter

And it's not recent - Arizona State fans chanted "PLO" at Steve Kerr, whose father was assassinated in Beirut.

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-03-01/s...zona-state

And, of course, the Bama fan who killed the famous trees on Auburn's campus. Every team has idiot fans. Some UCF fans/students were yelling at Flowers "Where's Mommy and Daddy?" on Friday. Trust me, I know USF has their share of assh0les among their fans, too. The point here isn't to rip any single fanbase, but to ask

WHY DO WE LET PEOPLE DO SH1T LIKE THIS?!?!?

I (would like to) think that people are sports fans because of the competition, and most of us played these sports as kids (or at least through high school) and thus appreciate the games being played at their highest level. But this crap has to end. We're like one step from being the storied soccer hooligans from England.

And we wonder why some people don't like going to games any more...

USFFan

I don’t believe you about the “where’s mommy and daddy” comments. I’ve heard from multiple usf fans on our message board who talked about their experiences and were quite surprised about the civility displayed between the fan bases. Where is the proof of this? Surely if it happened someone recorded it on their cell phone. Do you have personal knowledge of this or is this merely hearsay? Bring us proof or it appears you’re just trying to stir the pot after a devastating loss to a rival. So many people can just make up crap on the internet without a scintilla of evidence. Where is the evidence? You know like the video of Quinten Flowers “jerking off” on the UCF fan base after scoring a 4th quarter touchdown to take the lead in the game. Are you as appalled by the actions of a representative of your own school done before a national TV audience?

(11-26-2017 10:50 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  "A Texas A&M "fan" sent a horribly racist letter to Kevin Sumlin."

Fake news

Could be - jury's still out on that. Certainly looks like McElwain fabricated his. But the point still stands...

USFFan

(11-26-2017 10:54 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 10:39 AM)usffan Wrote:  There's a story on ESPN about South Carolina students/fans throwing bottles and trash on the field.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...rash-field

A Texas A&M "fan" sent a horribly racist letter to Kevin Sumlin.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/college-...ist-letter

And it's not recent - Arizona State fans chanted "PLO" at Steve Kerr, whose father was assassinated in Beirut.

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-03-01/s...zona-state

And, of course, the Bama fan who killed the famous trees on Auburn's campus. Every team has idiot fans. Some UCF fans/students were yelling at Flowers "Where's Mommy and Daddy?" on Friday. Trust me, I know USF has their share of assh0les among their fans, too. The point here isn't to rip any single fanbase, but to ask

WHY DO WE LET PEOPLE DO SH1T LIKE THIS?!?!?

I (would like to) think that people are sports fans because of the competition, and most of us played these sports as kids (or at least through high school) and thus appreciate the games being played at their highest level. But this crap has to end. We're like one step from being the storied soccer hooligans from England.

And we wonder why some people don't like going to games any more...

USFFan

I don’t believe you about the “where’s mommy and daddy” comments. I’ve heard from multiple usf fans on our message board who talked about their experiences and were quite surprised about the civility displayed between the fan bases. Where is the proof of this? Surely if it happened someone recorded it on their cell phone. Do you have personal knowledge of this or is this merely hearsay? Bring us proof or it appears you’re just trying to stir the pot after a devastating loss to a rival. So many people can just make up crap on the internet without a scintilla of evidence. Where is the evidence? You know like the video of Quinten Flowers “jerking off” on the UCF fan base after scoring a 4th quarter touchdown to take the lead in the game. Are you as appalled by the actions of a representative of your own school done before a national TV audience?

First, no excuse for Flowers doing what he did. And I tried my best to make sure I couched this in terms of pointing out that EVERY fan has their share of jerks. But there have been a number of claims of this:

https://twitter.com/TorelloSports/status...0975955968

Quote:Or do you want the “where’s mommy and daddy?” From UCF students?

Not sure that it's valid to go with the "tape or it didn't happen" defense. Or to automatically go into persecution mode. How about if we ALL police our fans so this crap stops?

USFFan

(11-26-2017 10:41 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  They all deserve the death penalty.

I blame the interwebs

Oh my god, theyre just trees lol

(11-26-2017 11:07 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 10:41 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  They all deserve the death penalty.

I blame the interwebs

Wood chipper. Feet first.

(11-26-2017 10:59 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 10:54 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 10:39 AM)usffan Wrote:  There's a story on ESPN about South Carolina students/fans throwing bottles and trash on the field.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...rash-field

A Texas A&M "fan" sent a horribly racist letter to Kevin Sumlin.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/college-...ist-letter

And it's not recent - Arizona State fans chanted "PLO" at Steve Kerr, whose father was assassinated in Beirut.

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-03-01/s...zona-state

And, of course, the Bama fan who killed the famous trees on Auburn's campus. Every team has idiot fans. Some UCF fans/students were yelling at Flowers "Where's Mommy and Daddy?" on Friday. Trust me, I know USF has their share of assh0les among their fans, too. The point here isn't to rip any single fanbase, but to ask

WHY DO WE LET PEOPLE DO SH1T LIKE THIS?!?!?

I (would like to) think that people are sports fans because of the competition, and most of us played these sports as kids (or at least through high school) and thus appreciate the games being played at their highest level. But this crap has to end. We're like one step from being the storied soccer hooligans from England.

And we wonder why some people don't like going to games any more...

USFFan

I don’t believe you about the “where’s mommy and daddy” comments. I’ve heard from multiple usf fans on our message board who talked about their experiences and were quite surprised about the civility displayed between the fan bases. Where is the proof of this? Surely if it happened someone recorded it on their cell phone. Do you have personal knowledge of this or is this merely hearsay? Bring us proof or it appears you’re just trying to stir the pot after a devastating loss to a rival. So many people can just make up crap on the internet without a scintilla of evidence. Where is the evidence? You know like the video of Quinten Flowers “jerking off” on the UCF fan base after scoring a 4th quarter touchdown to take the lead in the game. Are you as appalled by the actions of a representative of your own school done before a national TV audience?

First, no excuse for Flowers doing what he did. And I tried my best to make sure I couched this in terms of pointing out that EVERY fan has their share of jerks. But there have been a number of claims of this:

https://twitter.com/TorelloSports/status...0975955968

Quote:Or do you want the “where’s mommy and daddy?” From UCF students?

Not sure that it's valid to go with the "tape or it didn't happen" defense. Or to automatically go into persecution mode. How about if we ALL police our fans so this crap stops?

USFFan

I agree we All need to police our fans. I still don’t believe the “mommy and daddy” thing. It is so easy for fabrications to be spread through social media today, this should be undisputed. I’m Pointing out that “if” it did happen there is likely some proof of it. Each of us carry cell phones with us wherever we go, do you honestly expect objective people to believe that occurred and it wasn’t recorded by someone? You never did answer by question about personal knowledge, therefore I’m going to presume you have none. Can you even tell us what section the offending comments came from? I will point out that it is more likely to be a false rumor started by a butthurt sore loser. This is what rival fan bases do to denigrate and vilify the other fan base.

(11-26-2017 11:11 AM)Limebull Wrote:  Oh my god, theyre just trees lol

Best watch your back...

(11-26-2017 10:59 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 10:54 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 10:39 AM)usffan Wrote:  There's a story on ESPN about South Carolina students/fans throwing bottles and trash on the field.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...rash-field

A Texas A&M "fan" sent a horribly racist letter to Kevin Sumlin.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/college-...ist-letter

And it's not recent - Arizona State fans chanted "PLO" at Steve Kerr, whose father was assassinated in Beirut.

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-03-01/s...zona-state

And, of course, the Bama fan who killed the famous trees on Auburn's campus. Every team has idiot fans. Some UCF fans/students were yelling at Flowers "Where's Mommy and Daddy?" on Friday. Trust me, I know USF has their share of assh0les among their fans, too. The point here isn't to rip any single fanbase, but to ask

WHY DO WE LET PEOPLE DO SH1T LIKE THIS?!?!?

I (would like to) think that people are sports fans because of the competition, and most of us played these sports as kids (or at least through high school) and thus appreciate the games being played at their highest level. But this crap has to end. We're like one step from being the storied soccer hooligans from England.

And we wonder why some people don't like going to games any more...

USFFan

I don’t believe you about the “where’s mommy and daddy” comments. I’ve heard from multiple usf fans on our message board who talked about their experiences and were quite surprised about the civility displayed between the fan bases. Where is the proof of this? Surely if it happened someone recorded it on their cell phone. Do you have personal knowledge of this or is this merely hearsay? Bring us proof or it appears you’re just trying to stir the pot after a devastating loss to a rival. So many people can just make up crap on the internet without a scintilla of evidence. Where is the evidence? You know like the video of Quinten Flowers “jerking off” on the UCF fan base after scoring a 4th quarter touchdown to take the lead in the game. Are you as appalled by the actions of a representative of your own school done before a national TV audience?

First, no excuse for Flowers doing what he did. And I tried my best to make sure I couched this in terms of pointing out that EVERY fan has their share of jerks. But there have been a number of claims of this:

https://twitter.com/TorelloSports/status...0975955968

Quote:Or do you want the “where’s mommy and daddy?” From UCF students?

Not sure that it's valid to go with the "tape or it didn't happen" defense. Or to automatically go into persecution mode. How about if we ALL police our fans so this crap stops?

USFFan

I agree we All need to police our fans. I still don’t believe the “mommy and daddy” thing. It is so easy for fabrications to be spread through social media today, this should be undisputed. I’m Pointing out that “if” it did happen there is likely some proof of it. Each of us carry cell phones with us wherever we go, do you honestly expect objective people to believe that occurred and it wasn’t recorded by someone? You never did answer by question about personal knowledge, therefore I’m going to presume you have none. Can you even tell us what section the offending comments came from? I will point out that it is more likely to be a false rumor started by a butthurt sore loser. This is what rival fan bases do to denigrate and vilify the other fan base.

(11-26-2017 10:46 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Freedom of Speech cuts both ways. It's up to society to level penalties (not the government) when folks use their Freedom of Speech to spout out some silly **** that the society as a whole finds offensive. Ostracized them. Shame them. Point them out. Disavow them.

Well said. The last thing you want is the government limiting or restricting speech. Eventually, that works against the "good guys."

Let society take care of it.

We live in a world that people use cognitive dissonance or denial in the actions of others as
long as it’s the side we support. It doesn’t just stop at athletics but politics as well. Look at Penn State or Baylor, both athletic departments were so thoroughly corrupted. Despite a lot of evidence, people in happy valley still believe in St Joe. Nothing outside of a mental condition will allow a normal human being to believe this.

If the "mommy/daddy" thing happened, that's disgusting and I'd hope that no one would try to defend that.

I remember Joe Jurevicius had a new born die a day before the Bucs played the eagles in the NFC championship game. Eagle fans were yelling about his kid during the game. Some people just can't seem to put being a decent human being and a sports fan in the right order.

(11-26-2017 11:07 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 10:41 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  They all deserve the death penalty.

I blame the interwebs

I blame you.

(11-26-2017 10:39 AM)usffan Wrote:  There's a story on ESPN about South Carolina students/fans throwing bottles and trash on the field.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...rash-field

A Texas A&M "fan" sent a horribly racist letter to Kevin Sumlin.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/college-...ist-letter

And it's not recent - Arizona State fans chanted "PLO" at Steve Kerr, whose father was assassinated in Beirut.

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-03-01/s...zona-state

And, of course, the Bama fan who killed the famous trees on Auburn's campus. Every team has idiot fans. Some UCF fans/students were yelling at Flowers "Where's Mommy and Daddy?" on Friday. Trust me, I know USF has their share of assh0les among their fans, too. The point here isn't to rip any single fanbase, but to ask

WHY DO WE LET PEOPLE DO SH1T LIKE THIS?!?!?

I (would like to) think that people are sports fans because of the competition, and most of us played these sports as kids (or at least through high school) and thus appreciate the games being played at their highest level. But this crap has to end. We're like one step from being the storied soccer hooligans from England.

And we wonder why some people don't like going to games any more...

USFFan

This stuff is pretty bad. Have you seen what goes on at NFL games? The all out brawls in the stands?