(11-25-2017 11:52 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote: (11-25-2017 11:42 PM)prairiedawg Wrote: (11-25-2017 11:38 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote: (11-25-2017 11:32 PM)7 Wrote: Reminder that Dave Doeren lost to....KANSAS
With Harnish.
NIU scored 40 something...it was a D issue. Harnish was on.
that still brings up another two questions, for all the Carey haters, how does his win/losses stack up against other NIU coaches?
How about other MAC coaches? My guess is that most MAC coaches who have moved on up have the same percentages against other MAC schools/MAC losing schools/FCS schools, etc.
Would you say Carey has been a success by only winning 1 conference title in the 5 years (and 0 Bowls) since the Orange Bowl?”
It would be unfair not to mention his Big Ten record, but as this thread shows it’s not as impressive when you take it into context.
As far as wins/losses, we can beat the Ball St’s of the world until the cows come home but first and foremost his success should be measured by winning conference titles.
We shouldn’t compare Carey to past NIU/current/past MAC coaches, we were in prime position to turn a corner, to become Boise St (Midwest Edition). We should have won mutiple MAC titles, competing for them isn’t good enough when you have tasted the Orange Bowl and were only one (poorly coached) game away from going to the Fiesta Bowl.
I don’t think my expectations are Alabama-esque. I said 2 MAC championships, plus sprinkle a bowl win here and there would be acceptable. Of course there’s going to be down years, of course there’s going to be injuries. 1 in 5 still leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
An argument I have seen is that the talent level isn’t up to par. It’s Carey’s job to recruit and he hasn’t been getting players that are good enough to win the MAC more often that he has been doing. That talent level/QB situation is a direct reflection on Carey.
Next year is shaping up to be a big year. The non-conference slate is brutal and I don’t think a reasonable person would hold it against Carey if they struggled. As far as conference season, they have to win the MAC, competing isn’t good enough anymore. Just win baby.