(10-26-2017 02:12 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  App leads the nation in average attendance over capacity at 117%, with Michigan and Ohio St in 2nd and 3rd. We've averaged over seating capacity since our last expansion in 2008, and it still might be another 4 or 5 years until we close in the north end zone. It takes time at this level, even when the demand is there.

Congrats, definitely a rare thing at our level. But it sounds like App just needs a more realistic capacity number.

clt says you don’t actually need a ticket to get into a appy game. Just walk on in

(10-27-2017 05:22 AM)ghostofclt Wrote:  clt says you don’t actually need a ticket to get into the appy game. Just walk on in

Sweet! Home game for the Apps!

(10-26-2017 02:25 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I can guarantee you at least one sellout in 2018. However, it's going to sting a little.

Best of luck getting tickets unless you're a big donor at App.

(10-27-2017 07:50 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 02:25 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I can guarantee you at least one sellout in 2018. However, it's going to sting a little.

Best of luck getting tickets unless you're a big donor at App.

Long time Yosef Club member and Charlotte resident. I'll be there. What's the highest allotment App can expect to get for this game?

If there are any 49ers looking to get a return on your 2018 season tickets, there will be plenty of App fans willing to assist.

(10-27-2017 08:12 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 07:50 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 02:25 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I can guarantee you at least one sellout in 2018. However, it's going to sting a little.

Best of luck getting tickets unless you're a big donor at App.

Long time Yosef Club member and Charlotte resident. I'll be there. What's the highest allotment App can expect to get for this game?

If there are any 49ers looking to get a return on your 2018 season tickets, there will be plenty of App fans willing to assist.

I would say 1,500-2,000 or about 10% of the stadium. That combined with season ticket holders and student allotment should fill up the actual seats. Probably another 3K in SRO tickets but anyone in the 49er club that donates will get a presale on those.

(10-27-2017 08:19 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 08:12 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 07:50 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 02:25 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I can guarantee you at least one sellout in 2018. However, it's going to sting a little.

Best of luck getting tickets unless you're a big donor at App.

Long time Yosef Club member and Charlotte resident. I'll be there. What's the highest allotment App can expect to get for this game?

If there are any 49ers looking to get a return on your 2018 season tickets, there will be plenty of App fans willing to assist.

I would say 1,500-2,000 or about 10% of the stadium. That combined with season ticket holders and student allotment should fill up the actual seats. Probably another 3K in SRO tickets but anyone in the 49er club that donates will get a presale on those.

Should be a fun day. The return to Boone too. We could see another 35k event when y'all come up the mountain. It really makes no sense to be in the same conference.

(10-27-2017 08:45 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 08:19 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 08:12 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 07:50 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 02:25 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  I can guarantee you at least one sellout in 2018. However, it's going to sting a little.

Best of luck getting tickets unless you're a big donor at App.

Long time Yosef Club member and Charlotte resident. I'll be there. What's the highest allotment App can expect to get for this game?

If there are any 49ers looking to get a return on your 2018 season tickets, there will be plenty of App fans willing to assist.

I would say 1,500-2,000 or about 10% of the stadium. That combined with season ticket holders and student allotment should fill up the actual seats. Probably another 3K in SRO tickets but anyone in the 49er club that donates will get a presale on those.

Should be a fun day. The return to Boone too. We could see another 35k event when y'all come up the mountain. It really makes no sense to be in the same conference.

At very least we should be playing each other every year but our incompetent AD decided to schedule a series with Georgia State for some reason.

(10-27-2017 09:01 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 08:45 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 08:19 AM)wh49er Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 08:12 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 07:50 AM)wh49er Wrote:  Best of luck getting tickets unless you're a big donor at App.

Long time Yosef Club member and Charlotte resident. I'll be there. What's the highest allotment App can expect to get for this game?

If there are any 49ers looking to get a return on your 2018 season tickets, there will be plenty of App fans willing to assist.

I would say 1,500-2,000 or about 10% of the stadium. That combined with season ticket holders and student allotment should fill up the actual seats. Probably another 3K in SRO tickets but anyone in the 49er club that donates will get a presale on those.

Should be a fun day. The return to Boone too. We could see another 35k event when y'all come up the mountain. It really makes no sense to be in the same conference.

At very least we should be playing each other every year but our incompetent AD decided to schedule a series with Georgia State for some reason.

There is definitely a reason.

(10-25-2017 11:35 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 10:43 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  

(10-22-2017 02:19 PM)austinniner Wrote:  

(10-22-2017 01:39 PM)Matrix Wrote:  Seemed like a good sized crowd in Ruston. Charlotte has a decent turnout for their homecoming game against UAB. Who in your estimate, dropped the attendance ball this week?

That may have been Charlotte's worst attended game this season, and it was homecoming. Pretty sad, but at 0-7 who can blame the fans?

Not the worst attended game this season. The Marshall game a few weeks ago (10,584) was the worst attended game in program history. We've had both the lowest and the highest attended games in program history this season (NC A&T- 18,651).

We are on pace to continue the fading attendance almost every year since we started football, with the worst coming this year. The FAU game at home on the Saturday after Thanksgiving will have trouble getting 10k for sure.

2013 AVERAGE 15,541
2014 AVERAGE 13,272
2015 AVERAGE 14,618- 1st C-USA Season and 1st season with lights
2016 AVERAGE 14,192
2017 AVERAGE 13,041*

We can't even sell out the smallest football stadium in FBS and people wonder why we want the AD gone. It will continue to get worse as long as Judy Rose is in charge.

The fanbase is (and should be) pushing for stadium expansion, but the AD says we won't consider expansion until she does her job and fills up the current stadium.

Looks like your attendance would go up if you dropped to FCS. No excuse for you guys not showing up with Marshall at home, which I'm sure many of the Charlotte located Marshall fans were there.

Why should your fanbase push for stadium expansion. Your data indicates otherwise. If you build it, they still want come.

Why would attendance go up if we dropped to FCS???

The biggest problem we've had getting people there (besides historically terrible marketing, pricing, advertising, which all falls on the AD) is that the team for most of it's history, even when winning (first two season) has been boring, has poor fundamentals and has an extremely vanilla coach that doesn't inspire confidence.
I've got us 5-13 in our history when we are leading by one score, tied, or down 1 score with 5:00 left in the game.
A lot of fans are happy with just competing at this point, but we have taken a huge step backwards this season and it shows with people showing up.
Throw on top of all that huge dissatisfaction with our AD, who has systematically alienated a big chunk of the fan base in all sports and you are starting to see "protest absentee-ism" on Saturday evenings.
I think a new coach and a new AD with a little fire would bring the fan base back, but until then, this is what you are going to see.

Why would attendance go up if we dropped to FCS???

Because you would start winning. That is not a dig, it's the truth. I think y'all would have benefited from at least 5 years in 1-AA. You would have likely built some momentum against teams that will have local fan bases to help with attendance. Your highest attended game was NC A&T for a reason.

(10-27-2017 11:19 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Why would attendance go up if we dropped to FCS???

Because you would start winning. That is not a dig, it's the truth. I think y'all would have benefited from at least 5 years in 1-AA. You would have likely built some momentum against teams that will have local fan bases to help with attendance. Your highest attended game was NC A&T for a reason.

A and T was the highest attended due to it being the first game, parents weekend and a few thousand A and T fans. Previous high was FAU in 2015, which was first CUSA home game.

We had the chance to go up and we took it. While it would have been nice to develop the program more, but we didn't feel it was an option. It's not a dig, but we'd be stuck in the Belt if we hadn't. It's the only good thing Judy has done in the last ten years.

(10-27-2017 12:07 PM)Tintin Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 11:19 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Why would attendance go up if we dropped to FCS???

Because you would start winning. That is not a dig, it's the truth. I think y'all would have benefited from at least 5 years in 1-AA. You would have likely built some momentum against teams that will have local fan bases to help with attendance. Your highest attended game was NC A&T for a reason.

A and T was the highest attended due to it being the first game, parents weekend and a few thousand A and T fans. Previous high was FAU in 2015, which was first CUSA home game.

We had the chance to go up and we took it. While it would have been nice to develop the program more, but we didn't feel it was an option. It's not a dig, but we'd be stuck in the Belt if we hadn't. It's the only good thing Judy has done in the last ten years.

Yeah, it was a catch 22 for y'all. I understand the decision, but the program has paid a price.

Out of curiousity, what benefits has UNCC seen from going CUSA vs SB other than the TV revenue that ultimately was dramatically reduced. Honest question.

(10-27-2017 12:25 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 12:07 PM)Tintin Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 11:19 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Why would attendance go up if we dropped to FCS???

Because you would start winning. That is not a dig, it's the truth. I think y'all would have benefited from at least 5 years in 1-AA. You would have likely built some momentum against teams that will have local fan bases to help with attendance. Your highest attended game was NC A&T for a reason.

A and T was the highest attended due to it being the first game, parents weekend and a few thousand A and T fans. Previous high was FAU in 2015, which was first CUSA home game.

We had the chance to go up and we took it. While it would have been nice to develop the program more, but we didn't feel it was an option. It's not a dig, but we'd be stuck in the Belt if we hadn't. It's the only good thing Judy has done in the last ten years.

Yeah, it was a catch 22 for y'all. I understand the decision, but the program has paid a price.

Out of curiousity, what benefits has UNCC seen from going CUSA vs SB other than the TV revenue that ultimately was dramatically reduced. Honest question.

Program has paid the price due to incompetence of the AD. Poor marketing, bad game day experience, stringent tailgating rules, idiotic parking situations and an inability and lack of effort to engage the city and average Joe alum has hindered attendance.
The upside of this city, the university, and the football program is amazing if any kind of effort could be made to corrall it. I don't see that happening with the current athletic director and coach.

(10-27-2017 01:10 PM)Tintin Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 12:25 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 12:07 PM)Tintin Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 11:19 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Why would attendance go up if we dropped to FCS???

Because you would start winning. That is not a dig, it's the truth. I think y'all would have benefited from at least 5 years in 1-AA. You would have likely built some momentum against teams that will have local fan bases to help with attendance. Your highest attended game was NC A&T for a reason.

A and T was the highest attended due to it being the first game, parents weekend and a few thousand A and T fans. Previous high was FAU in 2015, which was first CUSA home game.

We had the chance to go up and we took it. While it would have been nice to develop the program more, but we didn't feel it was an option. It's not a dig, but we'd be stuck in the Belt if we hadn't. It's the only good thing Judy has done in the last ten years.

Yeah, it was a catch 22 for y'all. I understand the decision, but the program has paid a price.

Out of curiousity, what benefits has UNCC seen from going CUSA vs SB other than the TV revenue that ultimately was dramatically reduced. Honest question.

Program has paid the price due to incompetence of the AD. Poor marketing, bad game day experience, stringent tailgating rules, idiotic parking situations and an inability and lack of effort to engage the city and average Joe alum has hindered attendance.
The upside of this city, the university, and the football program is amazing if any kind of effort could be made to corrall it. I don't see that happening with the current athletic director and coach.

Sound like a lot of organizational and logistical issues outside of the L's. Nothing that can't be fixed with new leadership. I guess no real major benefits for the decision in conference? I'm sure that some would disagree on this page, but from where I stand the gap between the SB and CUSA has narrowed since App was bidding.

(10-27-2017 01:29 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 01:10 PM)Tintin Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 12:25 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 12:07 PM)Tintin Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 11:19 AM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Why would attendance go up if we dropped to FCS???

Because you would start winning. That is not a dig, it's the truth. I think y'all would have benefited from at least 5 years in 1-AA. You would have likely built some momentum against teams that will have local fan bases to help with attendance. Your highest attended game was NC A&T for a reason.

A and T was the highest attended due to it being the first game, parents weekend and a few thousand A and T fans. Previous high was FAU in 2015, which was first CUSA home game.

We had the chance to go up and we took it. While it would have been nice to develop the program more, but we didn't feel it was an option. It's not a dig, but we'd be stuck in the Belt if we hadn't. It's the only good thing Judy has done in the last ten years.

Yeah, it was a catch 22 for y'all. I understand the decision, but the program has paid a price.

Out of curiousity, what benefits has UNCC seen from going CUSA vs SB other than the TV revenue that ultimately was dramatically reduced. Honest question.

Program has paid the price due to incompetence of the AD. Poor marketing, bad game day experience, stringent tailgating rules, idiotic parking situations and an inability and lack of effort to engage the city and average Joe alum has hindered attendance.
The upside of this city, the university, and the football program is amazing if any kind of effort could be made to corrall it. I don't see that happening with the current athletic director and coach.

Sound like a lot of organizational and logistical issues outside of the L's. Nothing that can't be fixed with new leadership. I guess no real major benefits for the decision in conference? I'm sure that some would disagree on this page, but from where I stand the gap between the SB and CUSA has narrowed since App was bidding.

I would somewhat agree with that. Current CUSA is similar to the belt when the belt was at its highest point. We still hold an upper hand in the bowl situation and still have a few name programs, that's about it.

(10-27-2017 01:57 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 01:29 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 01:10 PM)Tintin Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 12:25 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 12:07 PM)Tintin Wrote:  A and T was the highest attended due to it being the first game, parents weekend and a few thousand A and T fans. Previous high was FAU in 2015, which was first CUSA home game.

We had the chance to go up and we took it. While it would have been nice to develop the program more, but we didn't feel it was an option. It's not a dig, but we'd be stuck in the Belt if we hadn't. It's the only good thing Judy has done in the last ten years.

Yeah, it was a catch 22 for y'all. I understand the decision, but the program has paid a price.

Out of curiousity, what benefits has UNCC seen from going CUSA vs SB other than the TV revenue that ultimately was dramatically reduced. Honest question.

Program has paid the price due to incompetence of the AD. Poor marketing, bad game day experience, stringent tailgating rules, idiotic parking situations and an inability and lack of effort to engage the city and average Joe alum has hindered attendance.
The upside of this city, the university, and the football program is amazing if any kind of effort could be made to corrall it. I don't see that happening with the current athletic director and coach.

Sound like a lot of organizational and logistical issues outside of the L's. Nothing that can't be fixed with new leadership. I guess no real major benefits for the decision in conference? I'm sure that some would disagree on this page, but from where I stand the gap between the SB and CUSA has narrowed since App was bidding.

I would somewhat agree with that. Current CUSA is similar to the belt when the belt was at its highest point. We still hold an upper hand in the bowl situation and still have a few name programs, that's about it.

All fair assessments. Looking forward to having y'all back in Boone in 2021. A lot to look forward to in the High Country!

(10-27-2017 01:57 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 01:29 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 01:10 PM)Tintin Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 12:25 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 12:07 PM)Tintin Wrote:  A and T was the highest attended due to it being the first game, parents weekend and a few thousand A and T fans. Previous high was FAU in 2015, which was first CUSA home game.

We had the chance to go up and we took it. While it would have been nice to develop the program more, but we didn't feel it was an option. It's not a dig, but we'd be stuck in the Belt if we hadn't. It's the only good thing Judy has done in the last ten years.

Yeah, it was a catch 22 for y'all. I understand the decision, but the program has paid a price.

Out of curiousity, what benefits has UNCC seen from going CUSA vs SB other than the TV revenue that ultimately was dramatically reduced. Honest question.

Program has paid the price due to incompetence of the AD. Poor marketing, bad game day experience, stringent tailgating rules, idiotic parking situations and an inability and lack of effort to engage the city and average Joe alum has hindered attendance.
The upside of this city, the university, and the football program is amazing if any kind of effort could be made to corrall it. I don't see that happening with the current athletic director and coach.

Sound like a lot of organizational and logistical issues outside of the L's. Nothing that can't be fixed with new leadership. I guess no real major benefits for the decision in conference? I'm sure that some would disagree on this page, but from where I stand the gap between the SB and CUSA has narrowed since App was bidding.

I would somewhat agree with that. Current CUSA is similar to the belt when the belt was at its highest point. We still hold an upper hand in the bowl situation and still have a few name programs, that's about it.

When we joined C-USA, ECU was still a member. That was a big in-state rival and was one of the biggest benefits IMO. We also still had some rivalries from the other original members of C-USA like UAB and USM that was appealing.

Our only other option at the time was staying in the A-10 for hoops, and Big South football only if they allowed us.

(10-23-2017 07:08 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 06:54 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  FAU, what's going on there? They are pumping money into the program and the on-field product is pretty good. What else needs to happen to get consistent support?

There are many reasons for this. FAU is a 90% commuter school, which means an overwhelming majority of students do not live on campus. They have jobs and families, etc. Secondly, the program is relatively recent and is still working on establishing its own footprint in the UM's shadow. Thirdly, and most importantly, FAU has had an 8-year record of failure. yes, we had looked rather good in the last 4-5 games, but do 4-5 games erase a long period of losing?

BTW, I am going to the FAU/FIU game with my family. I usually do one game a season. It is difficult to do more when you live 40 miles from campus, have a job, a house, and a family.

^WOW!!!!
This may be one of the most shocking things I’ve ever read on here. My family has traveled hundreds of miles several hundred times to see our team play sinceI was a little kid until last week taking a 1 year old and two 8 year olds. We’ve all traveled Thousands of miles for NCAA tournaments and bowl games.
40 miles??????? Incredible.

(11-01-2017 11:26 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 07:08 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 06:54 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  FAU, what's going on there? They are pumping money into the program and the on-field product is pretty good. What else needs to happen to get consistent support?

There are many reasons for this. FAU is a 90% commuter school, which means an overwhelming majority of students do not live on campus. They have jobs and families, etc. Secondly, the program is relatively recent and is still working on establishing its own footprint in the UM's shadow. Thirdly, and most importantly, FAU has had an 8-year record of failure. yes, we had looked rather good in the last 4-5 games, but do 4-5 games erase a long period of losing?

BTW, I am going to the FAU/FIU game with my family. I usually do one game a season. It is difficult to do more when you live 40 miles from campus, have a job, a house, and a family.

^WOW!!!!
This may be one of the most shocking things I’ve ever read on here. My family has traveled hundreds of miles several hundred times to see our team play sinceI was a little kid until last week taking a 1 year old and two 8 year olds. We’ve all traveled Thousands of miles for NCAA tournaments and bowl games.
40 miles??????? Incredible.

You don't know him or his particular situation. Perhaps there are outside factors that he'd rather not reveal on a message board. So until you know all the details, how about you not cast stones?