(10-30-2017 11:14 AM)TripleA Wrote:  There was no request to expand the playoffs. It was sarcasm by McMurphy after TCU lost. End of story.

^^^^THIS^^^^

I think thats good news for the AAC. The more access to playoff the better we will be.

At the end I think if they go to 8, they will throw one out to the nonP5 champ and that bodes well for the AAC. But the NY6 bowl slot disappears.

Im hoping this year for Georgia, Bama, Notre Dame and Clemson

Imagine the outrage By BigTen, Pac and B12 all lefty out it would be amazing.

An 8 Team Playoff discussion
could really "Heat" up IF:

What IF
Several Top teams finish the season w/ @ least one loss
Who gets in?
U could have up to 9 P5 one loss teams to choose from:
Bama, Georgia, Wisconsin, Ohio St,
Penn St. Miami/Clemson, Notre Dame
Big 12 Chump Winner, Wash,
& just 4 fun
UCF is the Lone Undefeated Team

Would the committee possibly,
take 2 teams from one conference?

Is it possible that only 2 P5 conferences
get teams in the 4 team playoff,
IF Notre Dame gets in?

(10-30-2017 12:14 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I think thats good news for the AAC. The more access to playoff the better we will be.

At the end I think if they go to 8, they will throw one out to the nonP5 champ and that bodes well for the AAC. But the NY6 bowl slot disappears.

Im hoping this year for Georgia, Bama, Notre Dame and Clemson

Imagine the outrage By BigTen, Pac and B12 all lefty out it would be amazing.

I read a media report a while back that said the discussions on going to 8, so far, have involved guaranteeing the 5 P5 conference champs a spot, and NOT handing one to the best non-P5 champ, as they do now with the NY6 slot.

The CFPs involve too much money for the P5 to relinquish one of those spots, even at 8.

(10-30-2017 12:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 12:14 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I think thats good news for the AAC. The more access to playoff the better we will be.

At the end I think if they go to 8, they will throw one out to the nonP5 champ and that bodes well for the AAC. But the NY6 bowl slot disappears.

Im hoping this year for Georgia, Bama, Notre Dame and Clemson

Imagine the outrage By BigTen, Pac and B12 all lefty out it would be amazing.

I read a media report a while back that said the discussions on going to 8, so far, have involved guaranteeing the 5 P5 conference champs a spot, and NOT handing one to the best non-P5 champ, as they do now with the NY6 slot.

The CFPs involve too much money for the P5 to relinquish one of those spots, even at 8.

They would be under a lot of pressure just like in BCS era if one of their champs is ranked below an AAC champ

(10-30-2017 12:22 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 12:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 12:14 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I think thats good news for the AAC. The more access to playoff the better we will be.

At the end I think if they go to 8, they will throw one out to the nonP5 champ and that bodes well for the AAC. But the NY6 bowl slot disappears.

Im hoping this year for Georgia, Bama, Notre Dame and Clemson

Imagine the outrage By BigTen, Pac and B12 all lefty out it would be amazing.

I read a media report a while back that said the discussions on going to 8, so far, have involved guaranteeing the 5 P5 conference champs a spot, and NOT handing one to the best non-P5 champ, as they do now with the NY6 slot.

The CFPs involve too much money for the P5 to relinquish one of those spots, even at 8.

They would be under a lot of pressure just like in BCS era if one of their champs is ranked below an AAC champ

But in the BCS era, you had computers, AP, and Coaches voting... they had very little control. Today, they have their ADs and a handful of "yes"-men deciding where teams are ranked. They just wouldn't allow that scenario to occur.

(10-29-2017 09:37 PM)vcoog Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:32 PM)KnightNasty Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:28 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  This is the beginning of the end for the aac.


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Please elaborate?

This would be the end of p6 for sure, however a great thing for all of FBS. Houston made it to rank 6 and I could definitely see other American teams getting close and winning their way to top 8.

Its not ideal, the best would to have 16 all conference champions and at larges but this is a step. I think we get to 16 eventually

Tulane made it to #7 in BCS... so top 8 is a possibility for undefeated G5

They should have an 8-seed game (think NCAA tournament for precedence) where the top G5 team could play a P5 team for the right to play the #1 seed on the road.

(10-30-2017 12:53 PM)pablowow Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:37 PM)vcoog Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:32 PM)KnightNasty Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:28 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  This is the beginning of the end for the aac.


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Please elaborate?

This would be the end of p6 for sure, however a great thing for all of FBS. Houston made it to rank 6 and I could definitely see other American teams getting close and winning their way to top 8.

Its not ideal, the best would to have 16 all conference champions and at larges but this is a step. I think we get to 16 eventually

Tulane made it to #7 in BCS... so top 8 is a possibility for undefeated G5

There is plenty of precedence for non-BCS teams in the top-8, but the selection committee has changed the dynamic.

I note that in 2009 to 2011, the outsiders would have enjoyed spots in a CFP 8 scenario:

2009 - #3 Cincinnati, #4 TCU, and #6 Boise St. (all three undefeated) were all in the top 8. The committee would have likely left Boise St. out and Cincinnati and TCU would have been #5 and #6 so as to give the BCS/P5 teams a home game - but their would have been two outsiders in the top-8.

2010 - #3 TCU (12-0, in the MWC at the time) would have been in the top-8 easily, even with a biased selection committee.

2011 - #7 Boise St. (11-1) was a borderline candidate, but *perhaps* had enough cache to make a CFP 8.

However, since then, and especially with the CFP selection committee, the highest BCS/CFP standings finish for the non-P5/BCS has been #15. I note that '17 UCF currently sits at #15 in the AP Poll and I don't expect the CFP selection committee to treat UCF better than the AP....

2012 - N/A - closest was #15 NIU (12-1)

2013 - N/A - closest was #15 UCF (11-1)

2014 - N/A - closest was #20 Boise St. (11-2)

2015 - N/A - closest was #18 Houston (12-1)

2016 - N/A - closest was #15 WMU (13-0)

2017 - TBD - #15 UCF (7-0)[games against #26 USF and #22 Memphis in CCG?]

Interesting stat from twitter:

Quote:The 16 teams that Alabama and Wisconsin have beaten this season received 0 votes in the last AP Poll. Per @RedditCFB

Miami: 19
UCF: 270

That said, the playoff committee will put UCF at around 20 on tuesday.

(10-30-2017 02:19 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  Interesting stat from twitter:

Quote:The 16 teams that Alabama and Wisconsin have beaten this season received 0 votes in the last AP Poll. Per @RedditCFB

Miami: 19
UCF: 270

That said, the playoff committee will put UCF at around 20 on tuesday.

I think you guys will be higher like 16 but amazingly Wisconsin will be top 6 having played no one

(10-30-2017 02:49 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 02:19 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  Interesting stat from twitter:

Quote:The 16 teams that Alabama and Wisconsin have beaten this season received 0 votes in the last AP Poll. Per @RedditCFB

Miami: 19
UCF: 270

That said, the playoff committee will put UCF at around 20 on tuesday.

I think you guys will be higher like 16 but amazingly Wisconsin will be top 6 having played no one

Their side of the B1G is no bueno and somehow they drew the exact bottom half of the East.
I think Michigan and Iowa will both beat them though in the next 3 weeks.

(10-30-2017 01:12 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 12:53 PM)pablowow Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:37 PM)vcoog Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:32 PM)KnightNasty Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:28 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  This is the beginning of the end for the aac.


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Please elaborate?

This would be the end of p6 for sure, however a great thing for all of FBS. Houston made it to rank 6 and I could definitely see other American teams getting close and winning their way to top 8.

Its not ideal, the best would to have 16 all conference champions and at larges but this is a step. I think we get to 16 eventually

Tulane made it to #7 in BCS... so top 8 is a possibility for undefeated G5

There is plenty of precedence for non-BCS teams in the top-8, but the selection committee has changed the dynamic.

I note that in 2009 to 2011, the outsiders would have enjoyed spots in a CFP 8 scenario:

2009 - #3 Cincinnati, #4 TCU, and #6 Boise St. (all three undefeated) were all in the top 8. The committee would have likely left Boise St. out and Cincinnati and TCU would have been #5 and #6 so as to give the BCS/P5 teams a home game - but their would have been two outsiders in the top-8.

2010 - #3 TCU (12-0, in the MWC at the time) would have been in the top-8 easily, even with a biased selection committee.

2011 - #7 Boise St. (11-1) was a borderline candidate, but *perhaps* had enough cache to make a CFP 8.

However, since then, and especially with the CFP selection committee, the highest BCS/CFP standings finish for the non-P5/BCS has been #15. I note that '17 UCF currently sits at #15 in the AP Poll and I don't expect the CFP selection committee to treat UCF better than the AP....

2012 - N/A - closest was #15 NIU (12-1)

2013 - N/A - closest was #15 UCF (11-1)

2014 - N/A - closest was #20 Boise St. (11-2)

2015 - N/A - closest was #18 Houston (12-1)

2016 - N/A - closest was #15 WMU (13-0)

2017 - TBD - #15 UCF (7-0)[games against #26 USF and #22 Memphis in CCG?]

Looks like you are using the final rankings. The highest CFP ranking for a non-P5 for ANY week was Memphis at #13 (8-0) in the first week of the CFP in 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NCAA_...l_rankings

(10-30-2017 04:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Looks like you are using the final rankings. The highest CFP ranking for a non-P5 for ANY week was Memphis at #13 (8-0) in the first week of the CFP in 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NCAA_...l_rankings

What is it with Memphis fans and their mid-season rankings?

I kid, I kid. I know the point you're making, but considering how hard it is to finish a season undefeated, looking at end of year rankings is more valuable than partial-season rankings. UCF itself has three games that could easily result in losses, and trap games in UCONN and Temple. Winning out would be a herculean task, but if it happens we'll see what the committee really thinks of the AAC.

(10-30-2017 05:48 PM)NothingButKnight Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 04:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Looks like you are using the final rankings. The highest CFP ranking for a non-P5 for ANY week was Memphis at #13 (8-0) in the first week of the CFP in 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NCAA_...l_rankings

What is it with Memphis fans and their mid-season rankings?

I kid, I kid. I know the point you're making, but considering how hard it is to finish a season undefeated, looking at end of year rankings is more valuable than partial-season rankings. UCF itself has three games that could easily result in losses, and trap games in UCONN and Temple. Winning out would be a herculean task, but if it happens we'll see what the committee really thinks of the AAC.

I am surprised you guys are worried about Uconn and Temple. Uconn was just obliterated by the worst Missouri team in the past 20 seasons, and Temple doesn't score any points. UCF should win both those games by five scores.

(10-30-2017 05:54 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:48 PM)NothingButKnight Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 04:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Looks like you are using the final rankings. The highest CFP ranking for a non-P5 for ANY week was Memphis at #13 (8-0) in the first week of the CFP in 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NCAA_...l_rankings

What is it with Memphis fans and their mid-season rankings?

I kid, I kid. I know the point you're making, but considering how hard it is to finish a season undefeated, looking at end of year rankings is more valuable than partial-season rankings. UCF itself has three games that could easily result in losses, and trap games in UCONN and Temple. Winning out would be a herculean task, but if it happens we'll see what the committee really thinks of the AAC.

I am surprised you guys are worried about Uconn and Temple. Uconn was just obliterated by the worst Missouri team in the past 20 seasons, and Temple doesn't score any points. UCF should win both those games by five scores.

UConn should be fine but going to Temple on a cold day can be a problem for Florida kids.

(10-30-2017 05:48 PM)NothingButKnight Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 04:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Looks like you are using the final rankings. The highest CFP ranking for a non-P5 for ANY week was Memphis at #13 (8-0) in the first week of the CFP in 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NCAA_...l_rankings

What is it with Memphis fans and their mid-season rankings?

I kid, I kid. I know the point you're making, but considering how hard it is to finish a season undefeated, looking at end of year rankings is more valuable than partial-season rankings. UCF itself has three games that could easily result in losses, and trap games in UCONN and Temple. Winning out would be a herculean task, but if it happens we'll see what the committee really thinks of the AAC.

Haha, I knew it. Just couldn't let that pass. It sounded so definite, lol. You have to take credit where you can. Nobody else gonna do it.

(10-30-2017 06:00 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:54 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 05:48 PM)NothingButKnight Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 04:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Looks like you are using the final rankings. The highest CFP ranking for a non-P5 for ANY week was Memphis at #13 (8-0) in the first week of the CFP in 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NCAA_...l_rankings

What is it with Memphis fans and their mid-season rankings?

I kid, I kid. I know the point you're making, but considering how hard it is to finish a season undefeated, looking at end of year rankings is more valuable than partial-season rankings. UCF itself has three games that could easily result in losses, and trap games in UCONN and Temple. Winning out would be a herculean task, but if it happens we'll see what the committee really thinks of the AAC.

I am surprised you guys are worried about Uconn and Temple. Uconn was just obliterated by the worst Missouri team in the past 20 seasons, and Temple doesn't score any points. UCF should win both those games by five scores.

UConn should be fine but going to Temple on a cold day can be a problem for Florida kids.

They'll have no problem with Temple. However, I think Fanhood is wrong in saying it will be 5 scores. I predict 4 score (just not sure about the 7 years ago part).

(10-29-2017 09:27 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Per Brett McMurphy. Hope this happens but this might mean just the top eight rated teams -- which isn't good news for even undefeated G5 teams like UCF who still are forced to play weak in-conference teams. Just have to wonder if the G5s have enough collective pull to make any difference in the outcome here? Let's hope.

I don't want to be that guy, but I don't think we need to have a consolation spot in the playoff. If we want to be in it, we need to produce a top-8 team. It's not fair to the actual #8 that gets left out for a #15 from our conference. Earn that poo.

(10-31-2017 07:49 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:27 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Per Brett McMurphy. Hope this happens but this might mean just the top eight rated teams -- which isn't good news for even undefeated G5 teams like UCF who still are forced to play weak in-conference teams. Just have to wonder if the G5s have enough collective pull to make any difference in the outcome here? Let's hope.

I don't want to be that guy, but I don't think we need to have a consolation spot in the playoff. If we want to be in it, we need to produce a top-8 team. It's not fair to the actual #8 that gets left out for a #15 from our conference. Earn that poo.

Frankly it happened a couple of times for the old Big East when their lower ranked champion got in due to auto bid.