(09-03-2017 12:14 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  B is correct. Had we got that last td, and failed the 2pt conversion...that would've earned the A-.
A win would have been the A.

If B is right for State, then group B needs to be in C and D. You don't always get the win but State played well enough to win against the Big X on the road. That's real competition and counts for something.

(09-03-2017 12:22 PM)LewyVandal Wrote:  1. Troy- looked good on D
2. Idaho- will get better each week
3. Astate- hung around with a p5
4. App- not impressed at all, still think Troy is better all around
5. Coastal- got the W
6. Sbama- looked ok
7. Nmst-hung around p5
The rest... not very impressed. Losing to fcs underdogs or nearly losing and a couple other beat downs. You could actually throw app st in here too they looked horrible on offense and even worse on d but I think will improve.

Troy's defense looked good? Maybe OK. Special teams were bad. Troy will be pretty good before its over however.

(09-03-2017 09:01 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 08:06 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 07:44 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I mean, I'm not saying Idaho looks bad but aside from Houston Baptist they had the weakest opponent of any of us
by a significant margin.

This. Strength of competition is an important factor.
App State, Georgia Southern and USA had the most difficult opponents, IMO.

It's pretty obvious. Nebraska isn't better than even Boise State it would appear after watching both games.Georiga brought back 10 starters from a defense that was one of the best in the country last season, and Auburn is due for their bounceback season.

Nebraska is far better than Boise. Nebraska will do fine in the Big X conference which happens to be far better than anything in the MWC.

(09-03-2017 03:20 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 01:27 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 12:22 PM)LewyVandal Wrote:  1. Troy- looked good on D
2. Idaho- will get better each week
3. Astate- hung around with a p5
4. App- not impressed at all, still think Troy is better all around
5. Coastal- got the W
6. Sbama- looked ok
7. Nmst-hung around p5
The rest... not very impressed. Losing to fcs underdogs or nearly losing and a couple other beat downs. You could actually throw app st in here too they looked horrible on offense and even worse on d but I think will improve.

Hung around with a P5?

We were two drops away from scoring a TD to tie or go for two and a win at Nebraska.

Nice downplay though.

1. A-State
2. Troy
3. Idaho
4.App
5. NMSU
6.CCU
7.GS
8. ULL
9. USA
10. ULM
11. Tx State
12. GSU



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ULM 10th and below ULL? Really? Explain this one to me. Losing by 8 to maybe the best G5 team compared to should have lost or almost lost to a non ranked FCS team? Than makes sense.

I don’t give much credit for garbage time scores. They looked downright awful against Memphis. Turnovers left and right.


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(09-03-2017 03:36 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 09:01 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 08:06 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 07:44 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I mean, I'm not saying Idaho looks bad but aside from Houston Baptist they had the weakest opponent of any of us
by a significant margin.

This. Strength of competition is an important factor.
App State, Georgia Southern and USA had the most difficult opponents, IMO.

It's pretty obvious. Nebraska isn't better than even Boise State it would appear after watching both games.Georiga brought back 10 starters from a defense that was one of the best in the country last season, and Auburn is due for their bounceback season.

Nebraska is far better than Boise. Nebraska will do fine in the Big X conference which happens to be far better than anything in the MWC.

Nebraska won't be good this year... As much as I hate Bsu they will be ranked in top 25 next week so troys loss to bsu looks a lot better than losing to Nebraska who won't be ranked all year

(09-03-2017 01:13 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 01:07 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  Blowing my mind to see people put Troy at 2 for losing by double digits to an unranked G5. Their offense was really bad yesterday.

stAte is the only team that looked reasonably complete yesterday. Everyone else had issues.

Troy losing to Boise is still losing a G5. At least we played well against a P5 and ULM played a good G5 close. Right now everyone is in love with Troy and App.

We can all agree that stAte was the the best looking team. However, with the exception of the ranked teams our conference played Boise is certainly the best. They will be ranked before Nebraska and Ole Miss will be. The P5 patch means nothing.

Troy was down by 4 (17-13) with 2 minutes left to a team that's 118-6 on the smurf turf, so you can't really say it's stretch to rank Troy 2nd when we played them as close as possible for 58 minutes. I can see APP being second, but then again it was 31-0 in the 3rd. APP is supposed to be a Top 40 team, and I just don't see that being a reasonable outcome for them. It could have been 48-0 if Georgia wanted it to be. Memphis lead ULM 30-7 midway through the third, so I can't see how that would put ULM ahead of Troy. Idaho played a bottom level FCS team, and it wasn't even a blowout. As for USA, trailing Ole Miss, who is not as good as Boise, 47-13, is not the same as Troy being within 4 (17-13) with 2 minutes left.

You could argue a few of those, but to have your mind blown? That smacks of rivalry bias. Troy has some work to do on offense, but won't face anyone outside of Arkansas State that can push the line around like Boise did. This will eventually be the leagues #1 or #2 offense.

I have no problem putting Troy near the top. Boise is always tough to play. Neither team looked great, but no team really looked great this week.

As far as being better than Ole Miss, I think time will tell. They may be ranked higher due to their schedule advantage, but Ole Miss is still loaded with more talent than even Boise can dream of having. Shae Patter and AJ Brown will both be all-conference guys in the SEC. Offense will not be their problem this year.

Had we made a couple crucial tackles, this game goes down to the wire. Also worth noting, Ole Miss never pulled their starters.

The only rankings I will make for sure right now is Ark State #1, GSU last. Everyone else is pretty even.

Sitting here arguing over whose moral victory was more moral is dumb. Life of a g5, I suppose.

Bottom line to me is silvers couldn't hit the broadside of a barn against a middling defense.

Jags couldn't tackle SEC receivers to save our life.

Everyone sucked except stAte. Everyone will probably get better....well most of us, anyway.

We aren't the worst team in the conference??

(09-03-2017 05:43 PM)LewyVandal Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 03:36 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 09:01 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 08:06 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 07:44 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I mean, I'm not saying Idaho looks bad but aside from Houston Baptist they had the weakest opponent of any of us
by a significant margin.

This. Strength of competition is an important factor.
App State, Georgia Southern and USA had the most difficult opponents, IMO.

It's pretty obvious. Nebraska isn't better than even Boise State it would appear after watching both games.Georiga brought back 10 starters from a defense that was one of the best in the country last season, and Auburn is due for their bounceback season.

Nebraska is far better than Boise. Nebraska will do fine in the Big X conference which happens to be far better than anything in the MWC.

Nebraska won't be good this year... As much as I hate Bsu they will be ranked in top 25 next week so troys loss to bsu looks a lot better than losing to Nebraska who won't be ranked all year

Wow closet Boise fan. Sorry but the athletes Nebraska brings in trumps the Smurfs you like so much.

Just like last year Troy is over rated. I am surprised they don't get ranked by playing Boies to less than a 12 point loss.

(09-03-2017 07:46 PM)bokobobcat1919 Wrote:  We aren't the worst team in the conference??

You didn't lose to Tennessee State this week.

But no worries, there's still plenty of time.

(09-03-2017 08:03 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 07:46 PM)bokobobcat1919 Wrote:  We aren't the worst team in the conference??

You didn't lose to Tennessee State this week.

But no worries, there's still plenty of time.

Thanks for the support . . . .

1. stAte
2. Troy
3. Idaho
4. ULM
5. NMSU
6. App
7. CCU
8. USA
9. GS
10. TXST
11. UL
12. GSU

(09-04-2017 03:41 PM)pistolp747 Wrote:  1. stAte
2. Troy
3. Idaho
4. ULM
5. NMSU
6. App
7. CCU
8. USA
9. GS
10. TXST
11. UL
12. GSU

There are only three rankings in week 1:

1) The SBC teams that won in week one beat lousy teams, so no insight can be gained.

2) The teams that lost to P5's. There were a few that played elites and a few that played teams predicted to be in the bottom half of thier conferences. The closeness of the scores reflect who played whom. I also put Troy in this tier for losing to a G5 with a good pedigree.

3) The final tier belongs to teams that lost to lousy teams. They have the most to be afraid of after week one.

Watched the replay of A-State's game and they are a much more talented team than last years, especially on offense. Did not play was well on defense as expected, but should have beaten Nebraska.

Watched some of Troys game with Boise, and they are certainly a talented G5 team.

#1:Coastal Carolina (W, Umass)
(Though Umass is a mess of a program right now, still FBS and as such by default this makes the Chants win the best one out of everyone else for week 1)

#2: LaLa (W, SE Louisiana)
(Southeastern Louisiana, while having stumbled somewhat within the last season and two, still has been a factor in the Southland Conference Title race in recent years and I would still rank them over the remaining opponents the following two have beaten...)

#3: Idaho (w, Sacramento State)
(Sacramento State isn't very good, but they play in the stiff Big Sky and certainly would put them ahead of...

#4: Texas State (W, Houston Baptist)
(This might be as high as the Bobcats get on my power rankings all season, and that's only because they won, even if it was an ugly victory against a still pretty young Huskie football program)

**Now I consider both the opponents played as well as overall performance**

#5: Arkansas State
(Despite coming up short, the Red Wolves put on an entertaining shower and certainly had the Huskers on the ropes. Can't remember the last time I felt this good about Astate coming off a lost).

#6: New Mexico State
(Aggies gave the Sun Devils all they could handle, out-gaining ASU by nearly 150 yards, but two critical turnovers and 6 penalties for 59 yards compared to the 'Devils 1 for 10 proved to be the difference maker)

#7 App State
(To be fair, Georgia is a beast of a team, but taking into consideration the hype for App and its personnel, felt Mountaineers didn't quite live up to the initial expectations as they were shut out for three quarters before struggling to score 10 in the 4th).

#8: ULM
(The Warhawks struggled out of the gate and while Memphis connected with big plays and big haymakers early, ULM kept chugging along making it a game late but the rally coming too late. Despite 4 turnovers, ULM showed flashes of vast improvement)

#9Troy
(It certainly was an entertaining game for the most part, despite Brandon Silvers and the Trojan offense having a rather dud performance on the day, only amounting to 215 total offensive yards.)

#10 South Alabama
Very much a tale of two halves as the Jags initially made it competitive with Ole Miss, only down three at halftime before getting crushed in the 3rd and never threatened again. Considering the drama the Rebels were carrying into this game, would've thought Jags could've kept this one a little bit closer for a little bit longer than they did)

#11 Georgia Southern
(Again to be fair, kinda sucks to test out your retooled/rejuvenated offense against a team like Auburn but man...it was not a pretty return to the option game for the Eagles: 78 TOTAL OFFENSIVE YARDS...78. Tyson Summers and company in Statesboro better have a big blow out performance Saturday against New Hampshire or the seat maybe torched by GSU Fans before it even gets heated)

#12: Georgia State
(New head coach, debut of the new stadium, seemingly a whole new era in Panthers football history and you lose to Tennessee State, who never had beaten an FBS team prior to their upset of Georgia State. To make it worse, Panthers struggled to chug out 273 offensive yards and only 49 of those came on the ground. While their's still 11 games remaining, kinda hard to have any optimism at this point for Ga. State).

If this is based off Week 1 and Week 1 only! No other factors!

1 Coastal Carolina
2 Idaho
3 Louisiana
4 Texas State
5 Arkansas State
6 Troy
7 New Mexico State
8 Louisiana Monroe
9 South Alabama
10 Appalachian State
11 Georgia Southern
12 Georgia State

(09-03-2017 01:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  1. Arkansas State
2. Idaho
3. Coastal Carolina
4. Troy
5. App State
6. GS
7. ULM
8. NMSU
9. USA
10. UL
11. Texas State
12. Bye Week
13. The Top High school team in Texas
14. Statesboro Junior High School
15. UAB's 2016 Football team
16. Georgia State

that's funny....until we lose to them again.

I didn't watch the Idaho game. Should they have beat them by more than 22 points? Not that the score was "close" did Idaho dominate them? Sacramento State won 4 games the last two years combined. Figured it would have been a bigger win point wise.