We need the money. Hell, we had to borrow 10 million for the long awaited practice facility. I wouldn't mind playing one of these pay out games every year.

I guess we need money...I wonder if we're busing the team save some scratch?

it is what it is. win the game and cash the check.

(08-11-2017 03:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 01:53 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 01:42 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  This make no sense---We are not going to play a non return game at Purdue, unless:

1- the market has just fallen out of the buy game market and Bowen is the only one who knows it.

2- Tom Bowen is the dumbest AD in Div 1a.

3- Purdue is paying a lot more than $750,000. Like double or more. even then it is highly unlikely.



Come to think about it, Bowen may owe the Purdue a favor.

There is no way this isn't a home and home. The market for pure buy games is basically double the $750k. I also seem to recall Bowen adamantly stating that we don't do buy games. We could probably get a buy game with Notre Dame for pete sakes.

I'm certainly no expert on the market for buy games but could you provide some examples of where schools are being paid $1.5M? I seem to recall some $1M buy game payments by maybe Alabama (or another top level P5) for a couple of late scheduled replacement games where the previously scheduled schools cancelled & also a Southern Miss game at Neb that had previously been scheduled at SM turned into a buy game at Neb for about $1M.

UMass is getting $1.9mm to play Auburn. $750m is not market.

(08-11-2017 08:44 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 03:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 01:53 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 01:42 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  This make no sense---We are not going to play a non return game at Purdue, unless:

1- the market has just fallen out of the buy game market and Bowen is the only one who knows it.

2- Tom Bowen is the dumbest AD in Div 1a.

3- Purdue is paying a lot more than $750,000. Like double or more. even then it is highly unlikely.



Come to think about it, Bowen may owe the Purdue a favor.

There is no way this isn't a home and home. The market for pure buy games is basically double the $750k. I also seem to recall Bowen adamantly stating that we don't do buy games. We could probably get a buy game with Notre Dame for pete sakes.

I'm certainly no expert on the market for buy games but could you provide some examples of where schools are being paid $1.5M? I seem to recall some $1M buy game payments by maybe Alabama (or another top level P5) for a couple of late scheduled replacement games where the previously scheduled schools cancelled & also a Southern Miss game at Neb that had previously been scheduled at SM turned into a buy game at Neb for about $1M.

UMass is getting $1.9mm to play Auburn. $750m is not market.

Alabama and Auburn make more for their home games than Purdue, so they can afford to pay more. How much is a chance at a win worth? Go to AU or UA & you will likely lose, maybe, big. Go to Purdue, get less but have a decent chance at a win.

(08-11-2017 08:44 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 03:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 01:53 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 01:42 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  This make no sense---We are not going to play a non return game at Purdue, unless:

1- the market has just fallen out of the buy game market and Bowen is the only one who knows it.

2- Tom Bowen is the dumbest AD in Div 1a.

3- Purdue is paying a lot more than $750,000. Like double or more. even then it is highly unlikely.



Come to think about it, Bowen may owe the Purdue a favor.

There is no way this isn't a home and home. The market for pure buy games is basically double the $750k. I also seem to recall Bowen adamantly stating that we don't do buy games. We could probably get a buy game with Notre Dame for pete sakes.

I'm certainly no expert on the market for buy games but could you provide some examples of where schools are being paid $1.5M? I seem to recall some $1M buy game payments by maybe Alabama (or another top level P5) for a couple of late scheduled replacement games where the previously scheduled schools cancelled & also a Southern Miss game at Neb that had previously been scheduled at SM turned into a buy game at Neb for about $1M.

UMass is getting $1.9mm to play Auburn. $750m is not market.

playing @ Alabama or @ Auburn would probably lead to a Memphis loss...Purdue is a beatable P5 and 750k should cover a few payments on that 10 million dollar loan we just took out.

(08-11-2017 08:54 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 08:44 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 03:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 01:53 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 01:42 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  This make no sense---We are not going to play a non return game at Purdue, unless:

1- the market has just fallen out of the buy game market and Bowen is the only one who knows it.

2- Tom Bowen is the dumbest AD in Div 1a.

3- Purdue is paying a lot more than $750,000. Like double or more. even then it is highly unlikely.



Come to think about it, Bowen may owe the Purdue a favor.

There is no way this isn't a home and home. The market for pure buy games is basically double the $750k. I also seem to recall Bowen adamantly stating that we don't do buy games. We could probably get a buy game with Notre Dame for pete sakes.

I'm certainly no expert on the market for buy games but could you provide some examples of where schools are being paid $1.5M? I seem to recall some $1M buy game payments by maybe Alabama (or another top level P5) for a couple of late scheduled replacement games where the previously scheduled schools cancelled & also a Southern Miss game at Neb that had previously been scheduled at SM turned into a buy game at Neb for about $1M.

UMass is getting $1.9mm to play Auburn. $750m is not market.

playing @ Alabama or @ Auburn would probably lead to a Memphis loss...Purdue is a beatable P5 and 750k should cover a few payments on that 10 million dollar loan we just took out.

The loan is simply an advance against long term pledges. How many times do you have to be told that before it sinks in?

My point about the Auburn guarantee is that if we're just looking for a payday, there are more lucrative options.

(08-11-2017 09:21 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 08:54 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 08:44 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 03:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 01:53 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  There is no way this isn't a home and home. The market for pure buy games is basically double the $750k. I also seem to recall Bowen adamantly stating that we don't do buy games. We could probably get a buy game with Notre Dame for pete sakes.

I'm certainly no expert on the market for buy games but could you provide some examples of where schools are being paid $1.5M? I seem to recall some $1M buy game payments by maybe Alabama (or another top level P5) for a couple of late scheduled replacement games where the previously scheduled schools cancelled & also a Southern Miss game at Neb that had previously been scheduled at SM turned into a buy game at Neb for about $1M.

UMass is getting $1.9mm to play Auburn. $750m is not market.

playing @ Alabama or @ Auburn would probably lead to a Memphis loss...Purdue is a beatable P5 and 750k should cover a few payments on that 10 million dollar loan we just took out.

The loan is simply an advance against long term pledges. How many times do you have to be told that before it sinks in?

My point about the Auburn guarantee is that if we're just looking for a payday, there are more lucrative options.

It's a reasonably high exposure game (well, at least better than UL Monroe). It's a great chance for a P5 win against a Big 10 team.

A home and home would be better, but why would they come to Memphis? What's in it for them?

Go to Ole Miss and get 1.5 mil...

(08-11-2017 09:21 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 08:54 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 08:44 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 03:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 01:53 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  There is no way this isn't a home and home. The market for pure buy games is basically double the $750k. I also seem to recall Bowen adamantly stating that we don't do buy games. We could probably get a buy game with Notre Dame for pete sakes.

I'm certainly no expert on the market for buy games but could you provide some examples of where schools are being paid $1.5M? I seem to recall some $1M buy game payments by maybe Alabama (or another top level P5) for a couple of late scheduled replacement games where the previously scheduled schools cancelled & also a Southern Miss game at Neb that had previously been scheduled at SM turned into a buy game at Neb for about $1M.

UMass is getting $1.9mm to play Auburn. $750m is not market.

playing @ Alabama or @ Auburn would probably lead to a Memphis loss...Purdue is a beatable P5 and 750k should cover a few payments on that 10 million dollar loan we just took out.

The loan is simply an advance against long term pledges. How many times do you have to be told that before it sinks in?

My point about the Auburn guarantee is that if we're just looking for a payday, there are more lucrative options.

I've never discussed that with you before so huh?

It's just an open spot on the schedule and a payday. Bunch of babies. Go back to bitchin about basketball

o

(08-11-2017 10:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  It's just an open spot on the schedule and a payday. Bunch of babies. Go back to bitchin about basketball

Hear, hear!

(08-11-2017 10:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  It's just an open spot on the schedule and a payday. Bunch of babies. Go back to bitchin about basketball

^ this

(08-11-2017 05:40 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 05:34 PM)TG4 Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 01:11 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I do not know the validity, but I know today's Tiger team would likely crush Purdue.

West Lafayette is an easy 5 hr. drive up 65 from Nashville

Road trip

Tony, when you played, did we have any buy games?

I know we played Auburn in the mid-70s, but we got a return game, IIRC.

I don't think the "buy game" concept was even thought of back then. We did home and home with TAMU in '78 and '79. The two Miss. SEC schools alternated playing us at home because MS legislature required at least one of the games be played in Jackson. Vandy was home and home in '78 and '79 as well. UT was home and home '76 and '77. And the return match with Auburn in '76 was our Homecoming.

A buy game for only 750k? Way low

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(08-11-2017 01:33 PM)southpaw1 Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 01:30 PM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  So they are going to pay us 3 quarters of a million dollars for us to come up there and beat their ass?

I would assume they are paying us to not have the return game in the LB.

Yes

(08-12-2017 08:03 AM)fsquid Wrote:  A buy game for only 750k? Way low

Not accurate, IMO. Darren Rovell, a sports biz analyst, tracks the buy games. Here are the payouts from Week 1 last season (2016):

Darren Rovell has reported the following payouts for this weekend’s games:

Florida paying UMass $1.25 million
Tennessee paying App State $1.15 million
Iowa paying Miami (OH) $1 million
UNLV paying Jackson State $600,000
Texas Tech paying Stephen F. Austin $450,000
Oregon paying UC-Davis $500,000
Oklahoma State paying Southeastern LA $385,000
Nevada paying Cal Poly $375,000
Duke paying NC Central $350,000
Maryland paying Howard $350,000

So, getting the $750K is fine, and like those of you who support the Purdue game say, we will have a good chance to win the game.

But the UMass - Auburn $1.9M payment is the outlier. Memphis wouldn't get the $1.9M that UMass gets. Auburn is paying for an easy win - as Ole Miss would attest, we are not that. Also, Auburn is richer than Purdue, and guarantee opponents know this. Michigan and Florida and Bama and Auburn have to pay more. Last, games late in the season cost more than Week 1 or 2 games - Umass-Auburn is in November.

For those of you supporting the Memphis-Purdue buy game, are names like UMass, App State, Jackson St., Stephen F. Austin, UC-Davis, SE LA, Cal Poly, NC Central and Howard the types of schools that Memphis football wants to be compared to?

(08-11-2017 03:36 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 03:16 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 03:12 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  Sweet! Our oldest will graduate from Purdue by then but it's looking more and more like our youngest will be a student at Purdue in 2020. It will be fun going and watching the Tigers administer a beatdown on the Boilers.

Yeah, I'm having trouble finding a downside too (maybe we took it on the cheap if the market is higher). Go beat Purdue & get $750K for doing so. Lot better than we'd ever see in our list of bowl games because the conference gets none of the $$$.

We get UCLA to do a home-and-home, but do a buy game with Purdue? Makes no sense.I see downside. Probably means we'll have one less home game that year. Not like Indiana is fertile recruiting ground for us. And, if we claim to be a relevant, top 40ish program, as we have been the last 3 years, you just don't do buy games anymore.

UT-Martin does buy games. Austin Peay does buy games. The University of Memphis shouldn't do buy games, IMO. If the AAC is going to brand itself as a P6 conference, then its members need to act the part.

[b]And, if you insist on doing one, do it with a name program. We've gone to USC and Michigan in the past. But I don't think we should do that anymore, either.

[/b]

I agree 1000%. I thought we were pass the point of being a buy game. This whole deal sucks to the highest degree, reeks of low mid major.

It's ridiculous on so many levels to have a buy game with effing Purdue. To far to travel, not in our recruiting area, not enough money for a buy game, not attractive for TV. I could go on, but I'm sick of thinking about it.

(08-12-2017 09:29 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(08-12-2017 08:03 AM)fsquid Wrote:  A buy game for only 750k? Way low

Not accurate, IMO. Darren Rovell, a sports biz analyst, tracks the buy games. Here are the payouts from Week 1 last season (2016):

Darren Rovell has reported the following payouts for this weekend’s games:

Florida paying UMass $1.25 million
Tennessee paying App State $1.15 million
Iowa paying Miami (OH) $1 million
UNLV paying Jackson State $600,000
Texas Tech paying Stephen F. Austin $450,000
Oregon paying UC-Davis $500,000
Oklahoma State paying Southeastern LA $385,000
Nevada paying Cal Poly $375,000
Duke paying NC Central $350,000
Maryland paying Howard $350,000

So, getting the $750K is fine, and like those of you who support the Purdue game say, we will have a good chance to win the game.

But the UMass - Auburn $1.9M payment is the outlier. Memphis wouldn't get the $1.9M that UMass gets. Auburn is paying for an easy win - as Ole Miss would attest, we are not that. Also, Auburn is richer than Purdue, and guarantee opponents know this. Michigan and Florida and Bama and Auburn have to pay more. Last, games late in the season cost more than Week 1 or 2 games - Umass-Auburn is in November.

For those of you supporting the Memphis-Purdue buy game, are names like UMass, App State, Jackson St., Stephen F. Austin, UC-Davis, SE LA, Cal Poly, NC Central and Howard the types of schools that Memphis football wants to be compared to?

Who cares? It's a P5 game where we have a great chance to come up with a win. I have no problem with it.

We usually play a complete dud or two out of conference each year. This year we play Southern Illinois. I'd rather play a team like Purdue than Missouri State, Austin Peay, UT Chatt, or SEMO.

It's exposure. Not Michigan or Ohio State exposure for sure, but at least it'll show up in the USA Today box score.

You guys will gripe about anything.

cant wait to head up to Indiana to watch the Tigers pound Purdue.