(04-29-2017 03:35 PM)ParentofJMUMRDs Wrote:  What are the particulars on Landan Ward?

Brian

Word. Boom.

Google Barry Word if you're not familiar with the family. Barry is one of the all-time uva greats. By all accounts his son is gonna be pretty good too.

So the JMU strategy seems to be rather than going FBS, wait for FBS to come to JMU. ?

(04-29-2017 02:52 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Mike Barber just tweeted that Landan Ward is transferring to JMU.

Per Barber
#UVA transfers LB Landan Word and WR David Eldridge are likely to transfer to #JMU, per a source.

(04-29-2017 04:27 PM)JmuDukes4Life Wrote:  

(04-29-2017 02:52 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Mike Barber just tweeted that Landan Ward is transferring to JMU.

Per Barber
#UVA transfers LB Landan Word and WR David Eldridge are likely to transfer to #JMU, per a source.

Word is listed at 6'5" 245 as an ILB...can anyone confirm that's accurate? I'd be surprised if he continued to play ILB at that size in FCS FB, but wouldn't it be interesting if MH had plans to do just that!

Word has pretty good speed. I could see him move down onto the line and become an edge rusher.

I don't know. If he's a natural inside LB, I hope they keep him there. Not too many 250 pound LBs who were slated to be ACC starters in FCS. He could dominate there. Move him to DE and he might end up just being a solid starter.

(04-30-2017 11:35 AM)Boris Wrote:  I don't know. If he's a natural inside LB, I hope they keep him there. Not too many 250 pound LBs who were slated to be ACC starters in FCS. He could dominate there. Move him to DE and he might end up just being a solid starter.

I'd agree. It's a pretty important position and we're losing a multi-year starter there. Was there an heir apparent for Steele waiting in the wings? Honest question.

(04-30-2017 11:37 AM)91Alum Wrote:  I'd agree. It's a pretty important position and we're losing a multi-year starter there. Was there an heir apparent for Steele waiting in the wings? Honest question.

UMD transfer Gus Little appeared to have established himself as the odds on favorite during spring practice to replace Steele. The coaches raved about how quickly he picked things up. He played pretty well at the spring game. Even if they plan to keep Word at ILB/MLB, Little may be tough to beat out.

(04-30-2017 01:11 PM)DooX Wrote:  

(04-30-2017 11:37 AM)91Alum Wrote:  I'd agree. It's a pretty important position and we're losing a multi-year starter there. Was there an heir apparent for Steele waiting in the wings? Honest question.

UMD transfer Gus Little appeared to have established himself as the odds on favorite during spring practice to replace Steele. The coaches raved about how quickly he picked things up. He played pretty well at the spring game. Even if they plan to keep Word at ILB/MLB, Little may be tough to beat out.

These are good problems to have.

(04-29-2017 12:56 PM)jmusuperfan Wrote:  4 games


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That makes sense. I was thinking 3.5 games left to serve if the 2 playoff games counted. If that is the case and it it is 5.5 games/half a season for JMU's suspended players, then they could appear during the 2nd half of the 4th game (vs UD)..

Similar happened with UNH's (2015) All CAA TE this past season. Was reportedly (NH paper) suspended 6 games, but it was actually 5 1/2. He 1st appeared during the 2nd half of their 6th game, vs Elon. His 1st full game back was versus JMU in Oct. He had a big game then but didn't do squat in the playoff game.

(05-01-2017 03:26 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(04-29-2017 12:56 PM)jmusuperfan Wrote:  4 games


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That makes sense. I was thinking 3.5 games left to serve if the 2 playoff games counted. If that is the case and it it is 5.5 games/half a season for JMU's suspended players, then they could appear during the 2nd half of the 4th game (vs UD)..

Similar happened with UNH's (2015) All CAA TE this past season. Was reportedly (NH paper) suspended 6 games, but it was actually 5 1/2. He 1st appeared during the 2nd half of their 6th game, vs Elon. His 1st full game back was versus JMU in Oct. He had a big game then but didn't do squat in the playoff game.

Guys,

Pretty sure Alls is out first 5.5 games this year if he had NCAA suspension. I don't believe the playoff games counted.

I know it seems like it doesn't make sense but it's the NCAA we're talking about here.

(05-01-2017 08:09 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 03:26 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(04-29-2017 12:56 PM)jmusuperfan Wrote:  4 games


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That makes sense. I was thinking 3.5 games left to serve if the 2 playoff games counted. If that is the case and it it is 5.5 games/half a season for JMU's suspended players, then they could appear during the 2nd half of the 4th game (vs UD)..

Similar happened with UNH's (2015) All CAA TE this past season. Was reportedly (NH paper) suspended 6 games, but it was actually 5 1/2. He 1st appeared during the 2nd half of their 6th game, vs Elon. His 1st full game back was versus JMU in Oct. He had a big game then but didn't do squat in the playoff game.

Guys,

Pretty sure Alls is out first 5.5 games this year if he had NCAA suspension. I don't believe the playoff games counted.

I know it seems like it doesn't make sense but it's the NCAA we're talking about here.

The article about Eldridge transferring states Alls was his host. Would we have a suspended player hosting a prospect?

“Terrence Alls was actually my host last weekend,” Eldridge said during a phone interview Wednesday. “He was just real with me and was telling me all the success he’s had because he’s happy with his choice.”

https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/duk...a-transfer

(05-02-2017 12:08 PM)JMUPurple Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 08:09 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 03:26 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(04-29-2017 12:56 PM)jmusuperfan Wrote:  4 games


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That makes sense. I was thinking 3.5 games left to serve if the 2 playoff games counted. If that is the case and it it is 5.5 games/half a season for JMU's suspended players, then they could appear during the 2nd half of the 4th game (vs UD)..

Similar happened with UNH's (2015) All CAA TE this past season. Was reportedly (NH paper) suspended 6 games, but it was actually 5 1/2. He 1st appeared during the 2nd half of their 6th game, vs Elon. His 1st full game back was versus JMU in Oct. He had a big game then but didn't do squat in the playoff game.

Guys,

Pretty sure Alls is out first 5.5 games this year if he had NCAA suspension. I don't believe the playoff games counted.

I know it seems like it doesn't make sense but it's the NCAA we're talking about here.

The article about Eldridge transferring states Alls was his host. Would we have a suspended player hosting a prospect?

“Terrence Alls was actually my host last weekend,” Eldridge said during a phone interview Wednesday. “He was just real with me and was telling me all the success he’s had because he’s happy with his choice.”

https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/duk...a-transfer

Good question. All I am saying is that if he the NCAA suspension it is for 1/2 half of the next seasons games.

That's complete BS to not have postseason games count. If they don't count, MH should've had them all eligible to play and kicked the can down the road to next season.

(05-02-2017 12:47 PM)Potomac Wrote:  That's complete BS to not have postseason games count. If they don't count, MH should've had them all eligible to play and kicked the can down the road to next season.

Absolutely.....how or why would you suspend a player for the post-season and not have it count as part of his suspension. That would be absurd.

Who really knows what the suspensions were for...I'm going into the season thinking Hereford and Alls will miss several games. Anything less would be a pleasant surprise. We were never told, the DNR hasn't ferreted it out and Houston runs a tight ship (and tight lipped too). In theory, it could be a host of other reasons.

I would tend to agree that it would be unusual to have a player under any kind of suspension host a recruit. Maybe they felt the ACC transfer tie-in was crucial?

The other thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Alls came here with a strike against him. The Duke press release exact words were, "Alls was suspended from game competition indefinitely in March for failure to "uphold the academic, athletic and community standards required of a member of the Blue Devil program." He was later released in November of 2015 for pretty much the same reasons. It would seem that anything too serious would be his walking papers.

(05-02-2017 01:07 PM)olddawg Wrote:  Who really knows what the suspensions were for...I'm going into the season thinking Hereford and Alls will miss several games. Anything less would be a pleasant surprise. We were never told, the DNR hasn't ferreted it out and Houston runs a tight ship (and tight lipped too). In theory, it could be a host of other reasons.

I would tend to agree that it would be unusual to have a player under any kind of suspension host a recruit. Maybe they felt the ACC transfer tie-in was crucial?

The other thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Alls came here with a strike against him. The Duke press release exact words were, "Alls was suspended from game competition indefinitely in March for failure to "uphold the academic, athletic and community standards required of a member of the Blue Devil program." He was later released in November of 2015 for pretty much the same reasons. It would seem that anything too serious would be his walking papers.

Seems to me, a suspended player may be a good choice to host. "Coach doesn't BS. Do as he tells you 'cause we are all treated the same" is a pretty strong recruiting point. Why get them if they aren't willing to be a team player.

I think you guys are hitting on some interesting points re: Alls/Eldridge. I think some of it comes down to a leadership methodology and instilling confidence in incumbent upper classmen too. Buildinggreater confidence in the upper classmen was touched on many times last season during teh playoff run.

Alls is a rising senior. He's suspended a few games to start the season. Staff goes out and brings in an ACC wide receiver with ACC talent. Someone else hosts Eldridge and now Alls wonders how deep in the doghouse he is. You let him lead/host and he knows the staff still loves him and thinks of him as a senior leader despite his transgression.

I also found it interesting that Trai Sharp was selected to host Marcus Marshall. Sharp has to be wondering when his time is going to come to shine. He's behind Johnson and Khalid...and we're looking at another running back stud? The staff allowed Sharp to show up as a leader and host Marshall, which I thought was some higher-level management thinking.

These moves are all made to put the team in the right mind set some summer practice. Kudos to the staff. They are fantastic.

(05-02-2017 01:15 PM)AllForDukes Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:07 PM)olddawg Wrote:  Who really knows what the suspensions were for...I'm going into the season thinking Hereford and Alls will miss several games. Anything less would be a pleasant surprise. We were never told, the DNR hasn't ferreted it out and Houston runs a tight ship (and tight lipped too). In theory, it could be a host of other reasons.

I would tend to agree that it would be unusual to have a player under any kind of suspension host a recruit. Maybe they felt the ACC transfer tie-in was crucial?

The other thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Alls came here with a strike against him. The Duke press release exact words were, "Alls was suspended from game competition indefinitely in March for failure to "uphold the academic, athletic and community standards required of a member of the Blue Devil program." He was later released in November of 2015 for pretty much the same reasons. It would seem that anything too serious would be his walking papers.

Seems to me, a suspended player may be a good choice to host. "Coach doesn't BS. Do as he tells you 'cause we are all treated the same" is a pretty strong recruiting point. Why get them if they aren't willing to be a team player.

Or you have a athlete that played WR in the ACC as well , transferred and loves being here at JMU. No other WR can have that type of convo with the transfer besides Alls so to me it makes sense. Alls is not suspended from team activity just games and Since we run the spread they might not have to compete with each other for a spot.

In no way is this official word, but don't be shocked if Alls is starting from game 1. Again, I don't know that for fact, but someone who has had good info in the past has said he is under the impression that the suspension doesn't impact this season. How? No idea....

(05-02-2017 02:09 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:15 PM)AllForDukes Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 01:07 PM)olddawg Wrote:  Who really knows what the suspensions were for...I'm going into the season thinking Hereford and Alls will miss several games. Anything less would be a pleasant surprise. We were never told, the DNR hasn't ferreted it out and Houston runs a tight ship (and tight lipped too). In theory, it could be a host of other reasons.

I would tend to agree that it would be unusual to have a player under any kind of suspension host a recruit Maybe they felt the ACC transfer tie-in was crucial?

The other thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Alls came here with a strike against him. The Duke press release exact words were, "Alls was suspended from game competition indefinitely in March for failure to "uphold the academic, athletic and community standards required of a member of the Blue Devil program." He was later released in November of 2015 for pretty much the same reasons. It would seem that anything too serious would be his walking papers.

Seems to me, a suspended player may be a good choice to host. "Coach doesn't BS. Do as he tells you 'cause we are all treated the same" is a pretty strong recruiting point. Why get them if they aren't willing to be a team player.

Or you have a athlete that played WR in the ACC as well , transferred and loves being here at JMU. No other WR can have that type of convo with the transfer besides Alls so to me it makes sense. Alls is not suspended from team activity just games and Since we run the spread they might not have to compete with each other for a spot.

Well then...unless I'm reading this wrong (and I'm not ), there are people on this board who are privy to the 1st 8 words of my last comment...