(04-23-2017 03:05 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 01:31 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Le Pen and Macron in second round

Hamon, Melenchon have already endorsed Macron. Fillon hasn't endorsed yet, but his party leaders have already endorsed Macron.

Next....finish off Le Pen in the second round, and hopefully at SNP/LibDem coalition will emerge in the UK to unseat Ms May and reverse Brexit.

You don't really think that will happen, do you?

the tooth fairy paid him a visit last night and front stage left (brexited) it under his pillow....

(04-23-2017 03:05 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 01:31 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  hopefully at SNP/LibDem coalition will emerge in the UK to unseat Ms May and reverse Brexit.

You don't really think that will happen, do you?

It could.

First, the SNP will sweep Scotland.

Plenty of Labor folks are livid over Corbyn's failure to support the EU. The ones I know (but of course they are educated and urban) are openly supporting the Lib Dems

And just this morning. Tony Blair signaled his support for the 'abandon Labor to save the EU'. Pretty significant Labor guy there.

Remember, the Lib Dems are openly campaigning on no Brexit. In an election with all other Brexit supporting parties....its not beyond the range of possibilities.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/...wn-always/

Dispatch: Marine Le Pen rides high in France's bellwether town that always backs the winning president



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(04-23-2017 03:24 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/...wn-always/

Dispatch: Marine Le Pen rides high in France's bellwether town that always backs the winning president



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And so it begins.

(04-23-2017 03:46 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 03:24 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/...wn-always/

Dispatch: Marine Le Pen rides high in France's bellwether town that always backs the winning president



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And so it begins.

Why no picture of Marshall Petain? He, like Le Pen is a fascist who is doing the bidding of a foreign power. He, also like Le Pen, didn't like anyone that the far right didn't consider a true native.

Yea...the beginning of a beat down for the fascists.

(04-23-2017 03:56 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 03:46 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 03:24 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/...wn-always/

Dispatch: Marine Le Pen rides high in France's bellwether town that always backs the winning president



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And so it begins.

Why no picture of Marshall Petain? He, like Le Pen is a fascist who is doing the bidding of a foreign power. He, also like Le Pen, didn't like anyone that the far right didn't consider a true native.

Yea...the beginning of a beat down for the fascists.

So, you're a LARPer now too, huh? The "fascists" will get beat down in France, just like they were in November and in Berkeley. When will you learn that calling people names and autistic screeching aren't arguments?

At least the communist candidate didn't sneak in. How did he almost get 20%?

It amazes me that after the devastation caused by communism in the 20th century, anyone can still think that it is a viable option. Some people are just too thick to understand.

(04-23-2017 04:07 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  At least the communist candidate didn't sneak in. How did he almost get 20%?

It amazes me that after the devastation caused by communism in the 20th century, anyone can still think that it is a viable option. Some people are just too thick to understand.

Is he actually a communist or is he a communist in the same way people said Obama was a communist?

(04-23-2017 04:09 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 04:07 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  At least the communist candidate didn't sneak in. How did he almost get 20%?

It amazes me that after the devastation caused by communism in the 20th century, anyone can still think that it is a viable option. Some people are just too thick to understand.

Is he actually a communist or is he a communist in the same way people said Obama was a communist?

Melenchon is not like Obama at all. Melenchon is a anti-globalist, anti-EU, person running on a Hugo Chavez platform.

(04-23-2017 02:50 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 01:28 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Tough seeing french trump beating french Obama based on 1st round results

not really. she can pull votes from other conservatives. she'll get a few far left out of spite. other than immigration and national security she is actually fairly centrist.

that's the beauty of having multiple more than 2 major parties. Less hardline ideology (ie, the way gay rights / diversity get lumped together with liberal economic policy here in the USA)

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If you have too many parties you get more extremism. Israel is the perfect example where you have single issue parties that get their way because they are needed in the coalition.

Not sure if 2 is best. But more than 5 is clearly a problem.

(04-23-2017 03:05 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 01:31 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  hopefully at SNP/LibDem coalition will emerge in the UK to unseat Ms May and reverse Brexit.

You don't really think that will happen, do you?

People believe it, just like Democrats believe Trump will be impeached. Crazy, delusional people aren't confined to American Democrats.

(04-23-2017 04:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 04:09 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 04:07 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  At least the communist candidate didn't sneak in. How did he almost get 20%?

It amazes me that after the devastation caused by communism in the 20th century, anyone can still think that it is a viable option. Some people are just too thick to understand.

Is he actually a communist or is he a communist in the same way people said Obama was a communist?

Melenchon is not like Obama at all. Melenchon is a anti-globalist, anti-EU, person running on a Hugo Chavez platform.

so an actual communist then.

(04-23-2017 04:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 02:50 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 01:28 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Tough seeing french trump beating french Obama based on 1st round results

not really. she can pull votes from other conservatives. she'll get a few far left out of spite. other than immigration and national security she is actually fairly centrist.

that's the beauty of having multiple more than 2 major parties. Less hardline ideology (ie, the way gay rights / diversity get lumped together with liberal economic policy here in the USA)

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If you have too many parties you get more extremism. Israel is the perfect example where you have single issue parties that get their way because they are needed in the coalition.

Not sure if 2 is best. But more than 5 is clearly a problem.

Actually multiple parties can work if there's a runoff.

(04-23-2017 04:38 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 04:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 02:50 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 01:28 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Tough seeing french trump beating french Obama based on 1st round results

not really. she can pull votes from other conservatives. she'll get a few far left out of spite. other than immigration and national security she is actually fairly centrist.

that's the beauty of having multiple more than 2 major parties. Less hardline ideology (ie, the way gay rights / diversity get lumped together with liberal economic policy here in the USA)

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If you have too many parties you get more extremism. Israel is the perfect example where you have single issue parties that get their way because they are needed in the coalition.

Not sure if 2 is best. But more than 5 is clearly a problem.

Actually multiple parties can work if there's a runoff.

Most places with many parties have proportional representation, not runoffs or first past the post as the US and Canada do.

(04-23-2017 04:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 02:50 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 01:28 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Tough seeing french trump beating french Obama based on 1st round results

not really. she can pull votes from other conservatives. she'll get a few far left out of spite. other than immigration and national security she is actually fairly centrist.

that's the beauty of having multiple more than 2 major parties. Less hardline ideology (ie, the way gay rights / diversity get lumped together with liberal economic policy here in the USA)

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If you have too many parties you get more extremism. Israel is the perfect example where you have single issue parties that get their way because they are needed in the coalition.

Not sure if 2 is best. But more than 5 is clearly a problem.

4 majors in this case. I disagree with you 100% on the extremism though. if that's what people want, so be it.

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(04-23-2017 04:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 04:09 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 04:07 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  At least the communist candidate didn't sneak in. How did he almost get 20%?

It amazes me that after the devastation caused by communism in the 20th century, anyone can still think that it is a viable option. Some people are just too thick to understand.

Is he actually a communist or is he a communist in the same way people said Obama was a communist?

Melenchon is not like Obama at all. Melenchon is a anti-globalist, anti-EU, person running on a Hugo Chavez platform.

In the 2012 election, he represented a coalition that included the Communist Party of France.

So to answer your question, he is a communist.

(04-23-2017 01:52 PM)fsquid Wrote:  I'm sorry, why the **** do we care about the French election?

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For real. France is gonna France. Germany has finally conquered Europe without firing a shot.

(04-23-2017 01:57 PM)Kronke Wrote:  The cop that was culturally enriched on Thursday was a gay rights activist. I don't believe I've seen you comment on that story. Imagine that.

Typical behavior; ignore anything that's inconvenient to the narrative.

(04-23-2017 02:10 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Gun violence is sadly a fact of life in the USA. And sometimes cops get killed in it.

The officer was a hero, but sadly, if we started talking about every person in this country (much less other countries) killed in gun violence, we'd not have time to discuss anything else.

This was ISIS trying to help out Le Pen.

I figured you'd want to talk about that so you can continue to ignore the plight of gay/lesbian/trans people all over the Muslim world who are hunted down and killed in the streets. It's obvious you don't want to talk about that, because then you'd have to admit that being oppressed doesn't equal moral authority like identity politics teaches. I guess you want Muslims to continue to flood into Europe so the streets can run red with the blood of gay/lesbian/trans people.

(04-23-2017 01:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea, but 80 percent of French voters voted against Le Pen in round one.

Per https://www.lefigaro.fr/elections/resultats/

76.2% voted against Emmanuel Macron
78.3% voted against Marine Le Pen.

With numbers like that you can't draw any conclusions unless you are trying to convince yourself of what you want. 64.5% of the voting population did not vote for either. There is no way to know how that figure will split between the two. You can't be stupid enough to think 100% of those people will vote the exact same way.

I think Le Pen winning would be more devastating to the globalist agenda than Trump winning. If Le Pen wins they will hold a Frexit referendum and I bet that would be more popular than Le Pen

(04-23-2017 05:26 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 01:57 PM)Kronke Wrote:  The cop that was culturally enriched on Thursday was a gay rights activist. I don't believe I've seen you comment on that story. Imagine that.

Typical behavior; ignore anything that's inconvenient to the narrative.

(04-23-2017 02:10 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Gun violence is sadly a fact of life in the USA. And sometimes cops get killed in it.

The officer was a hero, but sadly, if we started talking about every person in this country (much less other countries) killed in gun violence, we'd not have time to discuss anything else.

This was ISIS trying to help out Le Pen.

I figured you'd want to talk about that so you can continue to ignore the plight of gay/lesbian/trans people all over the Muslim world who are hunted down and killed in the streets. It's obvious you don't want to talk about that, because then you'd have to admit that being oppressed doesn't equal moral authority like identity politics teaches. I guess you want Muslims to continue to flood into Europe so the streets can run red with the blood of gay/lesbian/trans people.

(04-23-2017 01:49 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea, but 80 percent of French voters voted against Le Pen in round one.

Per https://www.lefigaro.fr/elections/resultats/

76.2% voted against Emmanuel Macron
78.3% voted against Marine Le Pen.

With numbers like that you can't draw any conclusions unless you are trying to convince yourself of what you want. 64.5% of the voting population did not vote for either. There is no way to know how that figure will split between the two. You can't be stupid enough to think 100% of those people will vote the exact same way.

man, rwt couldn't argue his way out of the shallow end with a functional life preserver, O2 tank, and flippers....