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RE: NC State to fire Gottfried at end of season
In terms of dream job, I thought about Louisville. Louisville and Pitino gave him his first opportunity, so that could be a place he'd love to coach. Louisville is an elite job, and their budget is insane, so it's hard to say that a guy with 4-5 years experience will be at the top of their list.

Pitino's coaching tree is probably the most impressive of any current coach, so if they want to replace him with a disciple, they'll have lot's of names to choose from. That said, I think Louisville will look outside of Pitino's tree for his replacement. The Louisville situation is much different than Carolina where there's pressure to stay inside the family.

To keep this subject matter in line with the initial thread, I'll end by saying that NCSU is a second-tier job. As Luke Decock said last week, "N.C. State is going to hear “no” a lot in this coaching search."
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RE: NC State to fire Gottfried at end of season
Keatts can't go from UNCW to Louisville directly, unless we join the A-10 and have success there in the next few years. Meaning he has to make a very smart decision about which job he takes in between.
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RE: NC State to fire Gottfried at end of season
Georgetown. Perfect job to either keep or move up. He could recruit and win there. Great history and fan base.
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RE: NC State to fire Gottfried at end of season
I could see him going to Georgetown too. My grandfather was a Georgetown alum, so it'd give me good reason to pull for them again.
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RE: NC State to fire Gottfried at end of season
(03-08-2017 10:15 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Keatts can't go from UNCW to Louisville directly, unless we join the A-10 and have success there in the next few years. Meaning he has to make a very smart decision about which job he takes in between.
I'm not sure i agree . Say 3, 4 more years of this level of success at UNCW, he already assisted there, and proved he could recruit at that level.
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RE: NC State to fire Gottfried at end of season
(03-08-2017 10:26 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  I'm not sure i agree . Say 3, 4 more years of this level of success at UNCW, he already assisted there, and proved he could recruit at that level.

Perhaps. It all depends on how much longer Pitino will be there. The longer he's there the higher the likelihood Keatts could be the successor.
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RE: NC State to fire Gottfried at end of season
I hope Keatts stays first of all. But, if he left UNCW for Dayton I would completely understand. Archie has positioned himself to be a top candidate, if not the lead candidate, for IU and OSU according to writers and all of us brilliant internet basketball minds. Rather than taking a second-tier job at a P5 school, why not go to one of the best jobs in the A-10 and position yourself for a top-tier job?

I think the idea of Mizzou, UGa or NCSU is shortsighted. Yes, as P5 schools they offer things that we can't, namely money and facilities. As much as coaches like competition and providing for their families, they also want to win ballgames. You may be the guy that changes a university's profile, but a 30 year history is a pretty strong indication of the type of challenges that you're going to face.
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RE: NC State to fire Gottfried at end of season
(03-08-2017 10:33 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I hope Keatts stays first of all. But, if he left UNCW for Dayton I would completely understand. Archie has positioned himself to be a top candidate, if not the lead candidate, for IU and OSU according to writers and all of us brilliant internet basketball minds. Rather than taking a second-tier job at a P5 school, why not go to one of the best jobs in the A-10 and position yourself for a top-tier job?

I think the idea of Mizzou, UGa or NCSU is shortsighted. Yes, as P5 schools they offer things that we can't, namely money and facilities. As much as coaches like competition and providing for their families, they also want to win ballgames. You may be the guy that changes a university's profile, but a 30 year history is a pretty strong indication of the type of challenges that you're going to face.

I'm not sure i think a Dayton move would be the best move. Just My opinion. I get your reasoning though.
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RE: NC State to fire Gottfried at end of season
(03-08-2017 10:24 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Georgetown. Perfect job to either keep or move up. He could recruit and win there. Great history and fan base.

There are some jobs that I would hate for him to take. I've mentioned Mizzou and NCSU several times. I'm not certain they'll fire JT3 this year, but if he lands the Georgetown job, with the access to recruits and a strong but winnable conference, you just shake his hand and wish him the best.
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RE: NC State to fire Gottfried at end of season
I would be more than a little bummed for Keatts to leave us to go to the A10. Going to a P5 I could live with. I'll be bummed, but support him and be excited for him regardless. However, if he goes to the A10 (while I understand your reasoning)... that would really frustrate me. Mostly because it would further label us as a "meh" mid major to the "basketball experts", IMO. I would support him sure, but it would definitely bother me.
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RE: NC State to fire Gottfried at end of season
(03-08-2017 10:37 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  I would be more than a little bummed for Keatts to leave us to go to the A10. Going to a P5 I could live with. I'll be bummed, but support him and be excited for him regardless. However, if he goes to the A10 (while I understand your reasoning)... that would really frustrate me. Mostly because it would further label us as a "meh" mid major to the "basketball experts", IMO. I would support him sure, but it would definitely bother me.

Exactly. The goal is for Keatts to help get us INTO a conference like the A-10, and maybe bring Charleston with us. Elon can come too if they're invited.
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RE: NC State to fire Gottfried at end of season
(03-08-2017 10:37 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  I would be more than a little bummed for Keatts to leave us to go to the A10. Going to a P5 I could live with. I'll be bummed, but support him and be excited for him regardless. However, if he goes to the A10 (while I understand your reasoning)... that would really frustrate me. Mostly because it would further label us as a "meh" mid major to the "basketball experts", IMO. I would support him sure, but it would definitely bother me.

That's true. I just think Dayton offers you an opportunity to win as one of the top 2 teams in the conference, and they're able to pay you P5 type money (without insane expectations).
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(03-08-2017 10:39 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 10:37 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  I would be more than a little bummed for Keatts to leave us to go to the A10. Going to a P5 I could live with. I'll be bummed, but support him and be excited for him regardless. However, if he goes to the A10 (while I understand your reasoning)... that would really frustrate me. Mostly because it would further label us as a "meh" mid major to the "basketball experts", IMO. I would support him sure, but it would definitely bother me.

Exactly. The goal is for Keatts to help get us INTO a conference like the A-10, and maybe bring Charleston with us. Elon can come too if they're invited.

I'm all for that. Is that realistic? That's an honest question, because I've given up on keeping up with realignment.
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(03-08-2017 10:40 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 10:37 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  I would be more than a little bummed for Keatts to leave us to go to the A10. Going to a P5 I could live with. I'll be bummed, but support him and be excited for him regardless. However, if he goes to the A10 (while I understand your reasoning)... that would really frustrate me. Mostly because it would further label us as a "meh" mid major to the "basketball experts", IMO. I would support him sure, but it would definitely bother me.

That's true. I just think Dayton offers you an opportunity to win as one of the top 2 teams in the conference, and they're able to pay you P5 type money (without insane expectations).

I can understand that. I'm also hopeful (probably more than I should be), that he'd be willing to wait for better money and a better job with a P5 rather than going to another Mid Major. I think he's squarely on the P5 radar already, and that pressure would really increase with an NCAAT victory, and/or more time here.
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You guys have made valid points about the A10.
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(03-08-2017 10:27 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 10:26 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  I'm not sure i agree . Say 3, 4 more years of this level of success at UNCW, he already assisted there, and proved he could recruit at that level.

Perhaps. It all depends on how much longer Pitino will be there. The longer he's there the higher the likelihood Keatts could be the successor.

I was going to ask why can't he but you sort of answered this. I think Pitino is like Roy and has anywhere from 3-5 years left. If Keatts truly is the next in line there I honestly could see him sticking around at UNCW if that is the time frame. He may jump back as an assistant to Louisville the year before getting the gig to get to know current players before being promoted to HC. If Pitino will be around longer or Keatts isn't their main target then he will leave UNCW this offseason or next, in my opinion. It will be interesting to see how Keatts moves and what he values, I think it will be telling as to where he thinks he can go in the future.
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(03-08-2017 10:53 AM)dan10 Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 10:27 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 10:26 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  I'm not sure i agree . Say 3, 4 more years of this level of success at UNCW, he already assisted there, and proved he could recruit at that level.

Perhaps. It all depends on how much longer Pitino will be there. The longer he's there the higher the likelihood Keatts could be the successor.

I was going to ask why can't he but you sort of answered this. I think Pitino is like Roy and has anywhere from 3-5 years left. If Keatts truly is the next in line there I honestly could see him sticking around at UNCW if that is the time frame. He may jump back as an assistant to Louisville the year before getting the gig to get to know current players before being promoted to HC. If Pitino will be around longer or Keatts isn't their main target then he will leave UNCW this offseason or next, in my opinion. It will be interesting to see how Keatts moves and what he values, I think it will be telling as to where he thinks he can go in the future.
Good point Dan, i was thinking the same thing in terms of "HC in waiting for a year" once Pitino's retirement is known. The wild card is his son, if he continues to do well at Minn.
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Georgetown seems like it would be a good fit for Keatts.
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(03-08-2017 10:46 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  I was going to ask why can't he but you sort of answered this. I think Pitino is like Roy and has anywhere from 3-5 years left. If Keatts truly is the next in line there I honestly could see him sticking around at UNCW if that is the time frame. He may jump back as an assistant to Louisville the year before getting the gig to get to know current players before being promoted to HC. If Pitino will be around longer or Keatts isn't their main target then he will leave UNCW this offseason or next, in my opinion. It will be interesting to see how Keatts moves and what he values, I think it will be telling as to where he thinks he can go in the future.

Rick is two years younger than Roy, and K is 4 years older than Roy. I have no idea how long any of them stay. From appearances, Rick seems to be aging a little faster than Roy or K.
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(03-08-2017 11:00 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(03-08-2017 10:46 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  I was going to ask why can't he but you sort of answered this. I think Pitino is like Roy and has anywhere from 3-5 years left. If Keatts truly is the next in line there I honestly could see him sticking around at UNCW if that is the time frame. He may jump back as an assistant to Louisville the year before getting the gig to get to know current players before being promoted to HC. If Pitino will be around longer or Keatts isn't their main target then he will leave UNCW this offseason or next, in my opinion. It will be interesting to see how Keatts moves and what he values, I think it will be telling as to where he thinks he can go in the future.

Rick is two years younger than Roy, and K is 4 years older than Roy. I have no idea how long any of them stay. From appearances, Rick seems to be aging a little faster than Roy or K.
I'd think if Collins continues success at NW, he has to become fav to replace K, no?
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