"al-Awlaki is the most dangerous ideologue in the world. Unlike bin Laden and al-Zawahiri, he doesn't need subtitles on his videos to indoctrinate and influence young people in the West."[202]

— Sajjan M. Gohel, Asia-Pacific Foundation

"Terrorist No. 1, in terms of threat against us."[35]

— Representative Jane Harman, (D-CA), Chairwoman of House Subcommittee on Homeland Security

(01-29-2017 02:12 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Watching Rance Preibus on MTP. He doesn't even know what is going on. He just said that green card holders aren't being banned. But they are.

He is correct. Just like this AM...This was his stance since the Judge put a stay on that part. Evidently the WH is fine with this. Im guessing they can live with it since they are not saying otherwise. Of course they are playing word games. You just have to listen Tom.

IMO...The system is working as it should. The EO overstepped and the judge ruled. That is how it is supposed to work. Be glad YOU live in a country where this can happen. This would not happen in a single Islamic nation...Not a one...and I know damn well you don't want to live in one...nor do I.

(01-29-2017 03:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was the top recruiter for Al Qaeda and the "Bin Laden of the internet"? Source?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/t...ernet.html

Ah, okay. A British news source told us. Cool. Kill Americans.

(01-29-2017 03:47 PM)john01992 Wrote:  "al-Awlaki is the most dangerous ideologue in the world. Unlike bin Laden and al-Zawahiri, he doesn't need subtitles on his videos to indoctrinate and influence young people in the West."[202]

— Sajjan M. Gohel, Asia-Pacific Foundation

"Terrorist No. 1, in terms of threat against us."[35]

— Representative Jane Harman, (D-CA), Chairwoman of House Subcommittee on Homeland Security

Well now that's due process if I ever saw it. Jane Harman!!! Thanks for clearing this all up. Trump's gonna have a field day killing Americans.

(01-29-2017 03:43 PM)john01992 Wrote:  when I said "clip" you automatically knew which part of the gun I was talking about. that renders the entire point useless.

I know what my cousin's two year old means when he points at the fridge and says "Moo" but I still make sure to tell him that what I'm getting him is milk. At least he has the cognitive ability to learn because he says milk about half the time now. I don't hold out hope for you. You'd rather dig your heels in and look like a total idiot than admit you are wrong.

Quote:clip/mag share the same relationship as cemetery/graveyard or tactical/strategic. words that have very similar but slightly different meanings.

Except for the fact that they aren't similar at all. That's like saying you can easily interchange gas pump nozzle with gas tank.

(01-29-2017 03:45 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:38 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:29 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:11 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  Yes.

I recall a lot of libs criticizing Obama over that. TBH I have no idea what the legality is to that. US citizens have rights no doubt but when they become enemy combatants in a warzone which is what he was both legally and in practice then that gets thrown out the window. I see it as no different than German-Americans who enlisted in the German Army during WWII.

The closer case is the Boston Marathon bomber who some called for his being tried as an enemy combatant. IIRC it was almost exclusively GOPers requesting this.

Your recall is much better than mine as I recall very little blowback on Obama about this subject. Perhaps you can link me to "lots of libs criticizing Obama over that"? But okay, I'll play.

You know he was an enemy combatant in a warzone? How do you know this? The president told you? Well, today, virtually anything Trump tells us I bet you have a problem with, no? Would you be fine with Trump having an American citizen assassinated? I thought not.

BTW, I see some here crying tears as big as crocodile turds because some Iraqi citizen who worked as a translater for the US military was detained at immigration as a result of Trump's Friday signing. He was released as I understand it but was put through a terrible ordeal according to one of our posters here.

Were you aware that the American citizen who was ordered assassinated by Obama was once invited to the Pentagon? He had his own little ordeal......1500 F from a hellfire missle. But, Obama sez it was okay so it's all good.

the ACLU and NYT editorial board ripped Obama over it. The Newsroom also spent like half a season on this topic.

the dude was the top recruiter for al qaeda and was called the "bin Laden of the Internet." It is no less a fact that he was part of that terrorist organization than it is that Hitler wanted to persecute jews. this is the last guy you can pull the "how do we really know" talking point with considering his role was to make videos praising jihad and terrorism.

I guess I was under the mistaken impression that for American citizens there was supposed to be some higher level of proof required before taking their lives. Now that it's clear that's not really the case, this should be a fun 8 years under Trump.

Thanks for clearing that all up. Let the killings begin.

like I said I don't know the legality of that situation but don't expect the constitution to apply to yourself when you are an enemy solider of the US in a war zone.

the boston bomber was not tried as an enemy combatant so

(01-29-2017 03:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:38 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:29 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  I recall a lot of libs criticizing Obama over that. TBH I have no idea what the legality is to that. US citizens have rights no doubt but when they become enemy combatants in a warzone which is what he was both legally and in practice then that gets thrown out the window. I see it as no different than German-Americans who enlisted in the German Army during WWII.

The closer case is the Boston Marathon bomber who some called for his being tried as an enemy combatant. IIRC it was almost exclusively GOPers requesting this.

Your recall is much better than mine as I recall very little blowback on Obama about this subject. Perhaps you can link me to "lots of libs criticizing Obama over that"? But okay, I'll play.

You know he was an enemy combatant in a warzone? How do you know this? The president told you? Well, today, virtually anything Trump tells us I bet you have a problem with, no? Would you be fine with Trump having an American citizen assassinated? I thought not.

BTW, I see some here crying tears as big as crocodile turds because some Iraqi citizen who worked as a translater for the US military was detained at immigration as a result of Trump's Friday signing. He was released as I understand it but was put through a terrible ordeal according to one of our posters here.

Were you aware that the American citizen who was ordered assassinated by Obama was once invited to the Pentagon? He had his own little ordeal......1500 F from a hellfire missle. But, Obama sez it was okay so it's all good.

the ACLU and NYT editorial board ripped Obama over it. The Newsroom also spent like half a season on this topic.

the dude was the top recruiter for al qaeda and was called the "bin Laden of the Internet." It is no less a fact that he was part of that terrorist organization than it is that Hitler wanted to persecute jews. this is the last guy you can pull the "how do we really know" talking point with considering his role was to make videos praising jihad and terrorism.

Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was the top recruiter for Al Qaeda and the "Bin Laden of the internet"? Source?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/t...ernet.html

What does that article have to do with Abdulrahman al-Awlaki?

(01-29-2017 03:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:43 PM)john01992 Wrote:  when I said "clip" you automatically knew which part of the gun I was talking about. that renders the entire point useless.

I know what my cousin's two year old means when he points at the fridge and says "Moo" but I still make sure to tell him that what I'm getting him is milk. At least he has the cognitive ability to learn because he says milk about half the time now. I don't hold out hope for you. You'd rather dig your heels in and look like a total idiot than admit you are wrong.

Quote:clip/mag share the same relationship as cemetery/graveyard or tactical/strategic. words that have very similar but slightly different meanings.

Except for the fact that they aren't similar at all. That's like saying you can easily interchange gas pump nozzle with gas tank.

if you refuse to admit that they are similar they you simply are in a disagreement with reality.

(01-29-2017 03:51 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:47 PM)john01992 Wrote:  "al-Awlaki is the most dangerous ideologue in the world. Unlike bin Laden and al-Zawahiri, he doesn't need subtitles on his videos to indoctrinate and influence young people in the West."[202]

— Sajjan M. Gohel, Asia-Pacific Foundation

"Terrorist No. 1, in terms of threat against us."[35]

— Representative Jane Harman, (D-CA), Chairwoman of House Subcommittee on Homeland Security

Well now that's due process if I ever saw it. Jane Harman!!! Thanks for clearing this all up. Trump's gonna have a field day killing Americans.

that was for kap. not you.

(01-29-2017 03:52 PM)john01992 Wrote:  like I said I don't know the legality of that situation but don't expect the constitution to apply to yourself when you are an enemy solider of the US in a war zone.

Is this what the judge and jury proclaimed? Oh wait, that's right, he was never charged with a single crime in an American court. NOT ONE. But who can argue with Jane Harman, right?

(01-29-2017 03:53 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:43 PM)john01992 Wrote:  when I said "clip" you automatically knew which part of the gun I was talking about. that renders the entire point useless.

I know what my cousin's two year old means when he points at the fridge and says "Moo" but I still make sure to tell him that what I'm getting him is milk. At least he has the cognitive ability to learn because he says milk about half the time now. I don't hold out hope for you. You'd rather dig your heels in and look like a total idiot than admit you are wrong.

Quote:clip/mag share the same relationship as cemetery/graveyard or tactical/strategic. words that have very similar but slightly different meanings.

Except for the fact that they aren't similar at all. That's like saying you can easily interchange gas pump nozzle with gas tank.

if you refuse to admit that they are similar they you simply are in a disagreement with reality.

OK. How are they similar? Show us how knowledgeable you are about firearms.

(01-29-2017 03:54 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:51 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:47 PM)john01992 Wrote:  "al-Awlaki is the most dangerous ideologue in the world. Unlike bin Laden and al-Zawahiri, he doesn't need subtitles on his videos to indoctrinate and influence young people in the West."[202]

— Sajjan M. Gohel, Asia-Pacific Foundation

"Terrorist No. 1, in terms of threat against us."[35]

— Representative Jane Harman, (D-CA), Chairwoman of House Subcommittee on Homeland Security

Well now that's due process if I ever saw it. Jane Harman!!! Thanks for clearing this all up. Trump's gonna have a field day killing Americans.

that was for kap. not you.

Are you sure that was for me? You might want to REALLY make sure.

(01-29-2017 03:56 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

Who cares...if it can be put in a gun and kill 40 people in a minute, it should be heavily regulated.

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Now back tot he topic at hand. DJT illegally detaining legal US residents on US soil without access to a lawyer, in violation of habeus corpus, due process, and about half the US constitution. And in violation of a court order.

(01-29-2017 03:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:53 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:43 PM)john01992 Wrote:  when I said "clip" you automatically knew which part of the gun I was talking about. that renders the entire point useless.

I know what my cousin's two year old means when he points at the fridge and says "Moo" but I still make sure to tell him that what I'm getting him is milk. At least he has the cognitive ability to learn because he says milk about half the time now. I don't hold out hope for you. You'd rather dig your heels in and look like a total idiot than admit you are wrong.

Quote:clip/mag share the same relationship as cemetery/graveyard or tactical/strategic. words that have very similar but slightly different meanings.

Except for the fact that they aren't similar at all. That's like saying you can easily interchange gas pump nozzle with gas tank.

if you refuse to admit that they are similar they you simply are in a disagreement with reality.

OK. How are they similar? Show us how knowledgeable you are about firearms.

graveyard & cemetery ==> where you bury dead people.

clip & mag ==> holds bullets.

the two terms are just as similar as graveyard/cemetery and just as different.

(01-29-2017 03:59 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:56 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

Who cares

Here you go.

(01-29-2017 03:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:54 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:51 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:47 PM)john01992 Wrote:  "al-Awlaki is the most dangerous ideologue in the world. Unlike bin Laden and al-Zawahiri, he doesn't need subtitles on his videos to indoctrinate and influence young people in the West."[202]

— Sajjan M. Gohel, Asia-Pacific Foundation

"Terrorist No. 1, in terms of threat against us."[35]

— Representative Jane Harman, (D-CA), Chairwoman of House Subcommittee on Homeland Security

Well now that's due process if I ever saw it. Jane Harman!!! Thanks for clearing this all up. Trump's gonna have a field day killing Americans.

that was for kap. not you.

Are you sure that was for me? You might want to REALLY make sure.

Leave him alone Kap. It's hard work trying to justify Obama's assassination of an American citizen who has never been charged with a crime.

What does Obama have to do with anything now?

(01-29-2017 04:02 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:54 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:51 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:47 PM)john01992 Wrote:  "al-Awlaki is the most dangerous ideologue in the world. Unlike bin Laden and al-Zawahiri, he doesn't need subtitles on his videos to indoctrinate and influence young people in the West."[202]

— Sajjan M. Gohel, Asia-Pacific Foundation

"Terrorist No. 1, in terms of threat against us."[35]

— Representative Jane Harman, (D-CA), Chairwoman of House Subcommittee on Homeland Security

Well now that's due process if I ever saw it. Jane Harman!!! Thanks for clearing this all up. Trump's gonna have a field day killing Americans.

that was for kap. not you.

Are you sure that was for me? You might want to REALLY make sure.

Leave him alone Kap. It's hard work trying to justify Obama's assassination opf an American citizen who has never been charged with a crime.

so would you rather this guy was still alive? the dude was connected to the fort hood shooter FFS.

and you are a dirty scummy liar. I have not once defended Obama in this thread. not once. so stop being a b*tch by claiming I did. all I said is that I don't know the legality of how an american citizen enemy combatant works on a topic that YOU STARTED.

(01-29-2017 04:00 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:53 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-29-2017 03:43 PM)john01992 Wrote:  when I said "clip" you automatically knew which part of the gun I was talking about. that renders the entire point useless.

I know what my cousin's two year old means when he points at the fridge and says "Moo" but I still make sure to tell him that what I'm getting him is milk. At least he has the cognitive ability to learn because he says milk about half the time now. I don't hold out hope for you. You'd rather dig your heels in and look like a total idiot than admit you are wrong.

Quote:clip/mag share the same relationship as cemetery/graveyard or tactical/strategic. words that have very similar but slightly different meanings.

Except for the fact that they aren't similar at all. That's like saying you can easily interchange gas pump nozzle with gas tank.

if you refuse to admit that they are similar they you simply are in a disagreement with reality.

OK. How are they similar? Show us how knowledgeable you are about firearms.

graveyard & cemetery ==> where you bury dead people.

clip & mag ==> holds bullets.

the two terms are just as similar as graveyard/cemetery and just as different.

Really?

WOW! Never knew that these:









Were all considered clips or magazines