RE: Trump's latest executive order causes chaos at US airports
(01-29-2017 01:30 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:25 PM)Kronke Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote: What about counties where the actual terrorist come from like Saudi Arabia? Oh yeah, it's because Trump does business there.
RE: Trump's latest executive order causes chaos at US airports
And leftists wonder why their party is collapsing. They are so fanatical, they no longer even know how to talk to people. Even in the off chance that they are right, the fact they they scream it in your face is so off putting, that people otherwise willing to listen are no longer interested.
(This post was last modified: 01-29-2017 01:51 PM by Kronke.)
Trump's latest executive order causes chaos at US airports
This is kind of funny.
Malaysia has a national muslim registry. Non-muslims don't get any religion printed on their IDs. They are a majority muslim country, however. Here is a picture:
But I don't have the minimum idea of how this thing could be useful anywhere in the world.
RE: Trump's latest executive order causes chaos at US airports
(01-29-2017 01:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote: What about counties where the actual terrorist come from like Saudi Arabia? Oh yeah, it's because Trump does business there.
RE: Trump's latest executive order causes chaos at US airports
(01-29-2017 01:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote: So Trump is personally detaining people? They being held in the basement of Trump Tower?
Yes, his order, issued unilaterally by him personally, is solely responsible for the detention of legal US residents, who are currently being detained on American soil without due process.
You weren't concerned with US citizens being denied their Constitutional rights when Obama wanted to do so but you are worried about non-citizens having non-existent rights violated?
RE: Trump's latest executive order causes chaos at US airports
(01-29-2017 01:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote: So Trump is personally detaining people? They being held in the basement of Trump Tower?
Yes, his order, issued unilaterally by him personally, is solely responsible for the detention of legal US residents, who are currently being detained on American soil without due process.
You weren't concerned with US citizens being denied their Constitutional rights when Obama wanted to do so but you are worried about non-citizens having non-existent rights violated?
RE: Trump's latest executive order causes chaos at US airports
(01-29-2017 02:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote: So Trump is personally detaining people? They being held in the basement of Trump Tower?
Yes, his order, issued unilaterally by him personally, is solely responsible for the detention of legal US residents, who are currently being detained on American soil without due process.
You weren't concerned with US citizens being denied their Constitutional rights when Obama wanted to do so but you are worried about non-citizens having non-existent rights violated?
what constitutional rights are you talking about?
Their rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment. Tom was one of many leftists who supported people who were placed on the no-fly list being denied their right to purchase and/or possess firearms. There is no due process involved with being placed on the no-fly list, just bureaucratic action.
RE: Trump's latest executive order causes chaos at US airports
(01-29-2017 02:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(01-29-2017 02:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote: So Trump is personally detaining people? They being held in the basement of Trump Tower?
Yes, his order, issued unilaterally by him personally, is solely responsible for the detention of legal US residents, who are currently being detained on American soil without due process.
You weren't concerned with US citizens being denied their Constitutional rights when Obama wanted to do so but you are worried about non-citizens having non-existent rights violated?
what constitutional rights are you talking about?
Their rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment. Tom was one of many leftists who supported people who were placed on the no-fly list being denied their right to purchase and/or possess firearms. There is no due process involved with being placed on the no-fly list, just bureaucratic action.
RE: Trump's latest executive order causes chaos at US airports
(01-29-2017 02:15 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:
(01-29-2017 02:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(01-29-2017 02:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: Yes, his order, issued unilaterally by him personally, is solely responsible for the detention of legal US residents, who are currently being detained on American soil without due process.
You weren't concerned with US citizens being denied their Constitutional rights when Obama wanted to do so but you are worried about non-citizens having non-existent rights violated?
what constitutional rights are you talking about?
Their rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment. Tom was one of many leftists who supported people who were placed on the no-fly list being denied their right to purchase and/or possess firearms. There is no due process involved with being placed on the no-fly list, just bureaucratic action.
RE: Trump's latest executive order causes chaos at US airports
(01-29-2017 02:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(01-29-2017 02:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:21 PM)gdunn Wrote: So Trump is personally detaining people? They being held in the basement of Trump Tower?
Yes, his order, issued unilaterally by him personally, is solely responsible for the detention of legal US residents, who are currently being detained on American soil without due process.
You weren't concerned with US citizens being denied their Constitutional rights when Obama wanted to do so but you are worried about non-citizens having non-existent rights violated?
what constitutional rights are you talking about?
Their rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment. Tom was one of many leftists who supported people who were placed on the no-fly list being denied their right to purchase and/or possess firearms. There is no due process involved with being placed on the no-fly list, just bureaucratic action.
I don't recall Obama ever passing a meaningful gun restriction. you are not allowed to subject your own opinion as the end all be all. obviously there is a limit to the 2A as people can't own their own personal bazooka. we just have differing views on where in between a boozoka and a BB gun that line is. just because you have an opinion on background checks, clip capacity, etc. that differs from libs doesn't mean your view is factual and the libs view aren't.
RE: Trump's latest executive order causes chaos at US airports
(01-29-2017 02:15 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:
(01-29-2017 02:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(01-29-2017 02:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:
(01-29-2017 01:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: Yes, his order, issued unilaterally by him personally, is solely responsible for the detention of legal US residents, who are currently being detained on American soil without due process.
You weren't concerned with US citizens being denied their Constitutional rights when Obama wanted to do so but you are worried about non-citizens having non-existent rights violated?
what constitutional rights are you talking about?
Their rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment. Tom was one of many leftists who supported people who were placed on the no-fly list being denied their right to purchase and/or possess firearms. There is no due process involved with being placed on the no-fly list, just bureaucratic action.
Provided for a WELL REGULATED....militia.
Quote:"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason
And at the time the Constitution was written the phrase well regulated meant "proper working order"
Quote:The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd amendment:
1709: "If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations."
1714: "The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world."
1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial."
1848: "A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor."
1862: "It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding."
1894: "The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city."
The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.