Mississippi State @ BYU - Friday, 10:15, ESPN
Vandy @ UGA - Noon, SECN
Bama @ Tennessee - 3:30 CBS
Missouri @ Florida - 4:00 SECN
Ole Miss @ Arkansas - 7:00 ESPN
Southern Miss @ LSU - 7:30 SECN
South Carolina - BYE!

Not a big slate but some very interesting games

Another interesting scheduling arrangement by BYU. I like BYU at home
UGA in a close one
Bama big
Florida in a close one coming off a "bye"
I like Ole Miss over Arkansas
LSU Big
South Carolina avoids their fifth loss

Florida hiding in the basement watching the weather channel

I think I'd be fine with LSU ditching the annual SEC match with Florida for a rotating opponent

(10-11-2016 02:08 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  Florida hiding in the basement watching the weather channel

I think I'd be fine with LSU ditching the annual SEC match with Florida for a rotating opponent

It would probably be against A&M.

Some insurance company is trying to start A Mizzou-Arkansas rivalry for advertising purposes

(10-11-2016 02:14 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 02:08 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  Florida hiding in the basement watching the weather channel

I think I'd be fine with LSU ditching the annual SEC match with Florida for a rotating opponent

It would probably be against A&M.

Some insurance company is trying to start A Mizzou-Arkansas rivalry for advertising purposes

How do most Arkansas fans view that "rivalry"? Are people into it?

SC fans hate playing A&M yearly and likely vice versa

(10-11-2016 03:00 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 02:14 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 02:08 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  Florida hiding in the basement watching the weather channel

I think I'd be fine with LSU ditching the annual SEC match with Florida for a rotating opponent

It would probably be against A&M.

Some insurance company is trying to start A Mizzou-Arkansas rivalry for advertising purposes

How do most Arkansas fans view that "rivalry"? Are people into it?

SC fans hate playing A&M yearly and likely vice versa

The SEC is a great conference home. We are like a family. Our sibling rivalry is there but not necessarily a distraction to the family business. Florida and L.S.U. have become a distraction to the family business, but because a 24 year old hurt has festered with this permanent rival crap. We need to add two more, do it soon, and move Missouri west and Alabama and Auburn east, and end this mess.

With a free rotation out of division and a round robin in division we have the fairest possible scheduling available. Even should we go to a 3 permanent rival scenario with no divisions we will still have Tennessee for instance claiming both Kentucky and Vanderbilt as natural rivalries they need to maintain. Alabama would likely claim Mississippi State. The arguments over the 3 permanent rivals would be massive. I'd prefer not to open that can of worms.

(10-11-2016 03:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 03:00 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 02:14 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 02:08 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  Florida hiding in the basement watching the weather channel

I think I'd be fine with LSU ditching the annual SEC match with Florida for a rotating opponent

It would probably be against A&M.

Some insurance company is trying to start A Mizzou-Arkansas rivalry for advertising purposes

How do most Arkansas fans view that "rivalry"? Are people into it?

SC fans hate playing A&M yearly and likely vice versa

The SEC is a great conference home. We are like a family. Our sibling rivalry is there but not necessarily a distraction to the family business. Florida and L.S.U. have become a distraction to the family business, but because a 24 year old hurt has festered with this permanent rival crap. We need to add two more, do it soon, and move Missouri west and Alabama and Auburn east, and end this mess.

With a free rotation out of division and a round robin in division we have the fairest possible scheduling available. Even should we go to a 3 permanent rival scenario with no divisions we will still have Tennessee for instance claiming both Kentucky and Vanderbilt as natural rivalries they need to maintain. Alabama would likely claim Mississippi State. The arguments over the 3 permanent rivals would be massive. I'd prefer not to open that can of worms.

Texas and Kansas, I'm good with it.

(10-11-2016 03:00 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 02:14 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 02:08 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  Florida hiding in the basement watching the weather channel

I think I'd be fine with LSU ditching the annual SEC match with Florida for a rotating opponent

It would probably be against A&M.

Some insurance company is trying to start A Mizzou-Arkansas rivalry for advertising purposes

How do most Arkansas fans view that "rivalry"? Are people into it?

SC fans hate playing A&M yearly and likely vice versa

I dont dislike playing Aggie any more then the hawgs

(10-11-2016 06:33 PM)SC-IL73 Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 03:00 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 02:14 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 02:08 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  Florida hiding in the basement watching the weather channel

I think I'd be fine with LSU ditching the annual SEC match with Florida for a rotating opponent

It would probably be against A&M.

Some insurance company is trying to start A Mizzou-Arkansas rivalry for advertising purposes

How do most Arkansas fans view that "rivalry"? Are people into it?

SC fans hate playing A&M yearly and likely vice versa

I dont dislike playing Aggie any more then the hawgs

I just want more variety. I'd rather have Arkansas though.

(10-11-2016 03:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 03:00 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 02:14 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 02:08 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  Florida hiding in the basement watching the weather channel

I think I'd be fine with LSU ditching the annual SEC match with Florida for a rotating opponent

It would probably be against A&M.

Some insurance company is trying to start A Mizzou-Arkansas rivalry for advertising purposes

How do most Arkansas fans view that "rivalry"? Are people into it?

SC fans hate playing A&M yearly and likely vice versa

The SEC is a great conference home. We are like a family. Our sibling rivalry is there but not necessarily a distraction to the family business. Florida and L.S.U. have become a distraction to the family business, but because a 24 year old hurt has festered with this permanent rival crap. We need to add two more, do it soon, and move Missouri west and Alabama and Auburn east, and end this mess.

With a free rotation out of division and a round robin in division we have the fairest possible scheduling available. Even should we go to a 3 permanent rival scenario with no divisions we will still have Tennessee for instance claiming both Kentucky and Vanderbilt as natural rivalries they need to maintain. Alabama would likely claim Mississippi State. The arguments over the 3 permanent rivals would be massive. I'd prefer not to open that can of worms.

I'm not sure having a division with Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee all in it is a solution either. ADs would have that because by definition at least four of those five teams will lose the division every year.

The West would be much weaker with only LSU, maybe A&M, and Texas and/or Oklahoma.

The real solution is to eliminate permanent rivalries and force those teams to play out of conference like UNC and Wake do and/or allow only Ut/Bama and Auburn/Georgia to continue much like the big ten does.

I will add that I think the divisions are well balanced now. Each has three "bell cows", 2-3 teams that are capable of occasionally playing at a high level, and 1-2 that are traditionally weaker.

East:

Florida/Georgia/Tennessee - Powers
SC/Missouri - Occasional player (I realize SC has been awful the last 2.5 years)
Kentucky/Vandy - Weaker

West:

Bama/Auburn/LSU - Powers
A&M/Arkansas - Occasional player
Ole Miss/Miss St - Weaker, although both have been strong recently, which has caused the west to be the stronger division.

(10-12-2016 09:07 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 03:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 03:00 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 02:14 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 02:08 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  Florida hiding in the basement watching the weather channel

I think I'd be fine with LSU ditching the annual SEC match with Florida for a rotating opponent

It would probably be against A&M.

Some insurance company is trying to start A Mizzou-Arkansas rivalry for advertising purposes

How do most Arkansas fans view that "rivalry"? Are people into it?

SC fans hate playing A&M yearly and likely vice versa

The SEC is a great conference home. We are like a family. Our sibling rivalry is there but not necessarily a distraction to the family business. Florida and L.S.U. have become a distraction to the family business, but because a 24 year old hurt has festered with this permanent rival crap. We need to add two more, do it soon, and move Missouri west and Alabama and Auburn east, and end this mess.

With a free rotation out of division and a round robin in division we have the fairest possible scheduling available. Even should we go to a 3 permanent rival scenario with no divisions we will still have Tennessee for instance claiming both Kentucky and Vanderbilt as natural rivalries they need to maintain. Alabama would likely claim Mississippi State. The arguments over the 3 permanent rivals would be massive. I'd prefer not to open that can of worms.

I'm not sure having a division with Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee all in it is a solution either. ADs would have that because by definition at least four of those five teams will lose the division every year.

The West would be much weaker with only LSU, maybe A&M, and Texas and/or Oklahoma.

The real solution is to eliminate permanent rivalries and force those teams to play out of conference like UNC and Wake do and/or allow only Ut/Bama and Auburn/Georgia to continue much like the big ten does.

If we move to 18, also get rid of permanent rivalries, and add a 9th game then that provides pretty much everything we're looking for.

3 divisions of 6
5 division games
2 rotating games each against the other 2 divisions
conference playoffs to give more teams a chance to either win a division or remain in the race for the league title

Here's what I would ideally want. It won't be popular with fans of four schools in particular, but....

(10-12-2016 09:11 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  I will add that I think the divisions are well balanced now. Each has three "bell cows", 2-3 teams that are capable of occasionally playing at a high level, and 1-2 that are traditionally weaker.

East:

Florida/Georgia/Tennessee - Powers
SC/Missouri - Occasional player (I realize SC has been awful the last 2.5 years)
Kentucky/Vandy - Weaker

West:

Bama/Auburn/LSU - Powers
A&M/Arkansas - Occasional player
Ole Miss/Miss St - Weaker, although both have been strong recently, which has caused the west to be the stronger division.

I was going to advocate for Auburn yo be dropped down a notch but their history has been strong. It's just with the Gus Malzahn offense it's really sink or swim depending on if he can find or develop a QB to execute everything physically and be able to read the defense.

(10-13-2016 08:17 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(10-12-2016 09:11 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  I will add that I think the divisions are well balanced now. Each has three "bell cows", 2-3 teams that are capable of occasionally playing at a high level, and 1-2 that are traditionally weaker.

East:

Florida/Georgia/Tennessee - Powers
SC/Missouri - Occasional player (I realize SC has been awful the last 2.5 years)
Kentucky/Vandy - Weaker

West:

Bama/Auburn/LSU - Powers
A&M/Arkansas - Occasional player
Ole Miss/Miss St - Weaker, although both have been strong recently, which has caused the west to be the stronger division.

I was going to advocate for Auburn yo be dropped down a notch but their history has been strong. It's just with the Gus Malzahn offense it's really sink or swim depending on if he can find or develop a QB to execute everything physically and be able to read the defense.

While 1 great coach of long tenure can help to build a program's reputation, 1 weak coach usually isn't around enough to influence that reputation long enough to matter. Gus's inabilities are hardly representative of our program, but probably are reflective of a real putz for A.D.

Broyles helped to establish the reputation at Arkansas. The guy that followed Petrino (see I can't even think of his name right now) will not affect that. Some folks list us as a power and some as an up and down contender, but we do have 2 national championships officially, have been strong throughout our history, were coached by John Heisman and more than a few other names since, have a good winning percentage, and consistently finish in the top 10 in revenue. I'd say we were a power, but nobody is on Alabama's echelon today. At one time historically Tennessee was. But that was long long ago even before my time.

Back to this weekends slate, I have a feeling the Vols could get there doors blown off in Neyland. They've played a lot of intense football these past 3 weeks and might just be emotionally spent.

The Ole Miss/Arky tilt looks interesting. If Brett can't win this one I think the Hawgs end up ditching him next season.

(10-14-2016 05:13 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Back to this weekends slate, I have a feeling the Vols could get there doors blown off in Neyland. They've played a lot of intense football these past 3 weeks and might just be emotionally spent.

The Ole Miss/Arky tilt looks interesting. If Brett can't win this one I think the Hawgs end up ditching him next season.

They have to be spent like you said. I think it's a 38-24 type of game.

(10-10-2016 11:50 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Mississippi State @ BYU - Friday, 10:15, ESPN
Vandy @ UGA - Noon, SECN
Bama @ Tennessee - 3:30 CBS
Missouri @ Florida - 4:00 SECN
Ole Miss @ Arkansas - 7:00 ESPN
Southern Miss @ LSU - 7:30 SECN
South Carolina - BYE!

Not a big slate but some very interesting games

Another interesting scheduling arrangement by BYU. I like BYU at home
UGA in a close one
Bama big
Florida in a close one coming off a "bye"
I like Ole Miss over Arkansas
LSU Big
South Carolina avoids their fifth loss

How bout Vandy? Big win for Derek Mason

And in other news, Mizzou still sucks, but we got a good look at another QB against Florida. My kids did buy me a killer Mizzou Nike black jersey for my BD this week. Goes over really well in South Mississippi.

(10-15-2016 11:19 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(10-10-2016 11:50 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Mississippi State @ BYU - Friday, 10:15, ESPN
Vandy @ UGA - Noon, SECN
Bama @ Tennessee - 3:30 CBS
Missouri @ Florida - 4:00 SECN
Ole Miss @ Arkansas - 7:00 ESPN
Southern Miss @ LSU - 7:30 SECN
South Carolina - BYE!

Not a big slate but some very interesting games

Another interesting scheduling arrangement by BYU. I like BYU at home
UGA in a close one
Bama big
Florida in a close one coming off a "bye"
I like Ole Miss over Arkansas
LSU Big
South Carolina avoids their fifth loss

How bout Vandy? Big win for Derek Mason

I don't know if Vandy's win ensures job security. I do know Dawg fans might have a twinge of regret about dumping Richt just because he couldn't beat Saban. I'm not seeing the development from Eason that one would expect.

(10-16-2016 06:14 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(10-15-2016 11:19 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(10-10-2016 11:50 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Mississippi State @ BYU - Friday, 10:15, ESPN
Vandy @ UGA - Noon, SECN
Bama @ Tennessee - 3:30 CBS
Missouri @ Florida - 4:00 SECN
Ole Miss @ Arkansas - 7:00 ESPN
Southern Miss @ LSU - 7:30 SECN
South Carolina - BYE!

Not a big slate but some very interesting games

Another interesting scheduling arrangement by BYU. I like BYU at home
UGA in a close one
Bama big
Florida in a close one coming off a "bye"
I like Ole Miss over Arkansas
LSU Big
South Carolina avoids their fifth loss

How bout Vandy? Big win for Derek Mason

I don't know if Vandy's win ensures job security. I do know Dawg fans might have a twinge of regret about dumping Richt just because he couldn't beat Saban. I'm not seeing the development from Eason that one would expect.

Eason is just a true freshmen so you have to take it easy on him. Absolutely agree on Smart, what a terrible move that was.

I think Mason absolutely gets another year. It's too bad they couldn't beat UK or SC, because they could have snuck into a bowl this year.