(07-19-2016 07:38 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:10 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:38 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  Not necessarily CUSA. With deregulation even if CUSA lost 4, they could still sit at 10 teams. AAC loses 3 or 4 teams they have to add at least 1 program to mantain

If they lost the "bigs" like USM or Marshall it would be interesting to see if we could entice some to defect

Also if somehow Boise goes big 12 that would be great news for NMSU

Memphis, Cincy, Boise, and NIU to the B12.

Marshall to the MAC.

NMSU to the MWC.

USM and either UTSA or Ga State to the AAC.

If Ga State, the Sun Belt will add JMU.

Cincinatti, Memphis, BYU, and Colorado St.

That's my thinking. BYU and CSU first. Cincy and Memphis if they decide to go to 14.

IF the Big 12 took Cinn, Memphis and Houston the AAC would be left with SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, USF and UCF in the south. From a geographic and historic standpoint USM is the obvious choice for the sosuth. In the north UConn, Navy (fball only), Temple, & ECU remain. Marshall is the obvious choice and they would need one other regional school to complete the northern division. Of the three schools in that region ODU is the probably the leader. Just my .02.

Hopefully we all stick and have some stability this time.

Memphis isn't going to the Big 12.


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(07-19-2016 07:58 PM)HCJag Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:38 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:10 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:38 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  Not necessarily CUSA. With deregulation even if CUSA lost 4, they could still sit at 10 teams. AAC loses 3 or 4 teams they have to add at least 1 program to mantain

If they lost the "bigs" like USM or Marshall it would be interesting to see if we could entice some to defect

Also if somehow Boise goes big 12 that would be great news for NMSU

Memphis, Cincy, Boise, and NIU to the B12.

Marshall to the MAC.

NMSU to the MWC.

USM and either UTSA or Ga State to the AAC.

If Ga State, the Sun Belt will add JMU.

Cincinatti, Memphis, BYU, and Colorado St.

That's my thinking. BYU and CSU first. Cincy and Memphis if they decide to go to 14.

It is as close to a guarantee as I could give. It's gonna be the 4 I listed.

(07-19-2016 05:36 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 05:30 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  It's happening. It's been nice knowing y'all for a short time. stAte we will miss y'all. South Al, not so much. App St and GaSo good luck!

The Sun Belt won't be the same without y'all. McNeese, Jacksonville St, Liberty and ETSU welcome to the Sun Belt.

LU's first act will be to rename the Sun Belt into the Bible Belt

(07-19-2016 07:36 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:15 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:10 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:38 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  Not necessarily CUSA. With deregulation even if CUSA lost 4, they could still sit at 10 teams. AAC loses 3 or 4 teams they have to add at least 1 program to mantain

If they lost the "bigs" like USM or Marshall it would be interesting to see if we could entice some to defect

Also if somehow Boise goes big 12 that would be great news for NMSU

Memphis, Cincy, Boise, and NIU to the B12.

Marshall to the MAC.

NMSU to the MWC.

USM and either UTSA or Ga State to the AAC.

If Ga State, the Sun Belt will add JMU.

Georgia State is not heading to the AAC, lets get that reality out of our heads now. I could see Georgia State taking a CUSA invite though. It makes sense for them, they identify more with MTSU and WKU than the rest of us do. If that happens, we might just call NMSU and be done with it.

Eastern schools aren't going to prefer NMSU over JMU.

Story is that JMU has been pretty much blacklisted by SBC Schools because of their administrations attitude a couple years back when they were first rumored.

The reality is the Big 12 doesnt want to expand at all. Bc of the ACC GOR/Conf Network announcement the B12 feels like they have to make a move. If they add any teams it will only be 2. So how might this realistically affect the belt?

B12 adds 2 teams from AAC (or 1 AAC/BYU or 1 MWC/BYU)
AAC adds 2 teams from CUSA (or stays at 10)
CUSA stays at 12.
SBC stays at 10.

Done.

(07-19-2016 10:35 PM)prisonmike Wrote:  The reality is the Big 12 doesnt want to expand at all. Bc of the ACC GOR/Conf Network announcement the B12 feels like they have to make a move. If they add any teams it will only be 2. So how might this realistically affect the belt?

B12 adds 2 teams from AAC (or 1 AAC/BYU or 1 MWC/BYU)
AAC adds 2 teams from CUSA (or stays at 10)
CUSA stays at 12.
SBC stays at 10.

Done.

Agreed. I'm thinking Cincy and Memphis. AAC stays at 10, CUSA at 14, SBC at 10.

Only thing is if one school leaves the AAC instead of two, in which case the AAC will want to take one team. Heck maybe they'll take UMass and that'll be that, but maybe they'll take a CUSA school. That league won't want to stay at 13, so unless they add NMSU (highly unlikely) or JMU (also doubtful since they won't do FCOA), they'll go for a SBC school.

(07-19-2016 10:52 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 10:35 PM)prisonmike Wrote:  The reality is the Big 12 doesnt want to expand at all. Bc of the ACC GOR/Conf Network announcement the B12 feels like they have to make a move. If they add any teams it will only be 2. So how might this realistically affect the belt?

B12 adds 2 teams from AAC (or 1 AAC/BYU or 1 MWC/BYU)
AAC adds 2 teams from CUSA (or stays at 10)
CUSA stays at 12.
SBC stays at 10.

Done.

Agreed. I'm thinking Cincy and Memphis. AAC stays at 10, CUSA at 14, SBC at 10.

Only thing is if one school leaves the AAC instead of two, in which case the AAC will want to take one team. Heck maybe they'll take UMass and that'll be that, but maybe they'll take a CUSA school. That league won't want to stay at 13, so unless they add NMSU (highly unlikely) or JMU (also doubtful since they won't do FCOA), they'll go for a SBC school.

Well what SBC school besides TXST would want to leave? Maybe GaSt, but would it be worth dropping important rivalries and a possible increase in tv revenue just to be in a conference with UAB and FIU?

(07-19-2016 10:58 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 10:52 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 10:35 PM)prisonmike Wrote:  The reality is the Big 12 doesnt want to expand at all. Bc of the ACC GOR/Conf Network announcement the B12 feels like they have to make a move. If they add any teams it will only be 2. So how might this realistically affect the belt?

B12 adds 2 teams from AAC (or 1 AAC/BYU or 1 MWC/BYU)
AAC adds 2 teams from CUSA (or stays at 10)
CUSA stays at 12.
SBC stays at 10.

Done.

Agreed. I'm thinking Cincy and Memphis. AAC stays at 10, CUSA at 14, SBC at 10.

Only thing is if one school leaves the AAC instead of two, in which case the AAC will want to take one team. Heck maybe they'll take UMass and that'll be that, but maybe they'll take a CUSA school. That league won't want to stay at 13, so unless they add NMSU (highly unlikely) or JMU (also doubtful since they won't do FCOA), they'll go for a SBC school.

Well what SBC school besides TXST would want to leave? Maybe GaSt, but would it be worth dropping important rivalries and a possible increase in tv revenue just to be in a conference with UAB and FIU?

I honestly don't know, but it only takes one school out of our ten.

Hypothetically, App State could consider it. It's not what I want personally, but it's not like there is zero argument for it. CUSA would give App a very nearby new rival in UNCC, access to the Tidewater recruiting area via Old Dominion, and a renewed rivalry with Marshall. Again, I'd rather stay with the Sun Belt for its overall more tightly packed geography, but maybe the AD and university president thinks differently from me.

(07-19-2016 10:52 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 10:35 PM)prisonmike Wrote:  The reality is the Big 12 doesnt want to expand at all. Bc of the ACC GOR/Conf Network announcement the B12 feels like they have to make a move. If they add any teams it will only be 2. So how might this realistically affect the belt?

B12 adds 2 teams from AAC (or 1 AAC/BYU or 1 MWC/BYU)
AAC adds 2 teams from CUSA (or stays at 10)
CUSA stays at 12.
SBC stays at 10.

Done.

Agreed. I'm thinking Cincy and Memphis. AAC stays at 10, CUSA at 14, SBC at 10.

Only thing is if one school leaves the AAC instead of two, in which case the AAC will want to take one team. Heck maybe they'll take UMass and that'll be that, but maybe they'll take a CUSA school. That league won't want to stay at 13, so unless they add NMSU (highly unlikely) or JMU (also doubtful since they won't do FCOA), they'll go for a SBC school.

Jmu is doing COA for men's and women's hoops

(07-19-2016 07:38 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:10 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:38 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  Not necessarily CUSA. With deregulation even if CUSA lost 4, they could still sit at 10 teams. AAC loses 3 or 4 teams they have to add at least 1 program to mantain

If they lost the "bigs" like USM or Marshall it would be interesting to see if we could entice some to defect

Also if somehow Boise goes big 12 that would be great news for NMSU

Memphis, Cincy, Boise, and NIU to the B12.

Marshall to the MAC.

NMSU to the MWC.

USM and either UTSA or Ga State to the AAC.

If Ga State, the Sun Belt will add JMU.

Cincinatti, Memphis, BYU, and Colorado St.

I think Houston goes instead of BYU.

Then:
Rice backfills for UH.

ODU backfills for Cincinnati

USM backfills for Memphis

UTEP backfills for Colorado St

Then:

JMU, App St, GSU, or GA St backfills in CUSA East

USA, ULL, or Ark St backfills in CUSA West

OR:

AIRPORT MEETING is called immediately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(07-19-2016 08:10 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Hopefully we all stick and have some stability this time.

Agreed.

I couldn't fault any school for accepting an AAC invite. Even with the current lineup but especially loosing 1-3 of their best programs I don't see a CUSA invite being all that appealing for most schools with the exception of maybe GA ST and TX ST. From a financial and competitive standpoint I see the SBC at least on par with CUSA with a much better geographical footprint.

(07-20-2016 05:26 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:38 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:10 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:38 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  Not necessarily CUSA. With deregulation even if CUSA lost 4, they could still sit at 10 teams. AAC loses 3 or 4 teams they have to add at least 1 program to mantain

If they lost the "bigs" like USM or Marshall it would be interesting to see if we could entice some to defect

Also if somehow Boise goes big 12 that would be great news for NMSU

Memphis, Cincy, Boise, and NIU to the B12.

Marshall to the MAC.

NMSU to the MWC.

USM and either UTSA or Ga State to the AAC.

If Ga State, the Sun Belt will add JMU.

Cincinatti, Memphis, BYU, and Colorado St.

I think Houston goes instead of BYU.

Then:
Rice backfills for UH.

ODU backfills for Cincinnati

USM backfills for Memphis

UTEP backfills for Colorado St

Then:

JMU, App St, GSU, or GA St backfills in CUSA East

USA, ULL, or Ark St backfills in CUSA West

OR:

AIRPORT MEETING is called immediately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buahahaha

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(07-20-2016 06:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 05:26 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:38 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:10 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:38 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  Not necessarily CUSA. With deregulation even if CUSA lost 4, they could still sit at 10 teams. AAC loses 3 or 4 teams they have to add at least 1 program to mantain

If they lost the "bigs" like USM or Marshall it would be interesting to see if we could entice some to defect

Also if somehow Boise goes big 12 that would be great news for NMSU

Memphis, Cincy, Boise, and NIU to the B12.

Marshall to the MAC.

NMSU to the MWC.

USM and either UTSA or Ga State to the AAC.

If Ga State, the Sun Belt will add JMU.

Cincinatti, Memphis, BYU, and Colorado St.

I think Houston goes instead of BYU.

Then:
Rice backfills for UH.

ODU backfills for Cincinnati

USM backfills for Memphis

UTEP backfills for Colorado St

Then:

JMU, App St, GSU, or GA St backfills in CUSA East

USA, ULL, or Ark St backfills in CUSA West

OR:

AIRPORT MEETING is called immediately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buahahaha

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Why would so the SBC jump to join a gutted CUSA who would be on life-support?


IF AAC loses 4 members (which is questionable) then they could simple only replace 2 and sit at 10 (like the SBC) and wait and see. This may shock a few on hear, but I could see the AAC grabbing GSU (state) as one of the teams. They offer a big market, recruiting, academics are in line with other schools, and a lot of potential in the athletic dept especially with the new development deal. But there is still a lot of risk with virtually no support. They could also grab ODU for similar reasons. Wouldn't that be interesting.

So then CUSA is at 13 and SBC is at 9.
Then it could get real intersting. Marshall fans are very unhappy and USM. TxSt would really like to be with more Texas teams. So what is the next move. Does the SBC invite NMSU as full members and stay at 10? or maybe a bold move and extend USM an offer? Is 3 the charm for Marshall and the MAC? So many possibilities. We'll just have to see what the Big12 does and then let the chaos ensue.


I could also see a scenario that the CUSA loses 3 teams and replaces just one with either TxST or GaSt and claims the CUSA is still the best because no SBC would turn down a CUSA invite. The SBC then adds NMSU (unless they've gone to the MWC) or tries one last time for JMU to keep a tighter footprint (and add a better state for markets and recruiting). Either way its not that big of a deal and likely we sit at 9 teams and cancel the CCG (no need if everyone is playing each other anyway).

(07-19-2016 06:31 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:29 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  A big question is if the big 12 does take 4 teams (which would most surely reignite a realignment phase) could this actually open the doors for a SBC/CUSA merger?

Here we go

The bigger question is...if there were a merger, how would you lay out the new conferences? And...discuss!

(07-20-2016 06:59 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 06:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 05:26 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:38 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:10 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Memphis, Cincy, Boise, and NIU to the B12.

Marshall to the MAC.

NMSU to the MWC.

USM and either UTSA or Ga State to the AAC.

If Ga State, the Sun Belt will add JMU.

Cincinatti, Memphis, BYU, and Colorado St.

I think Houston goes instead of BYU.

Then:
Rice backfills for UH.

ODU backfills for Cincinnati

USM backfills for Memphis

UTEP backfills for Colorado St

Then:

JMU, App St, GSU, or GA St backfills in CUSA East

USA, ULL, or Ark St backfills in CUSA West

OR:

AIRPORT MEETING is called immediately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buahahaha

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Why would so the SBC jump to join a gutted CUSA who would be on life-support?


IF AAC loses 4 members (which is questionable) then they could simple only replace 2 and sit at 10 (like the SBC) and wait and see. This may shock a few on hear, but I could see the AAC grabbing GSU (state) as one of the teams. They offer a big market, recruiting, academics are in line with other schools, and a lot of potential in the athletic dept especially with the new development deal. But there is still a lot of risk with virtually no support. They could also grab ODU for similar reasons. Wouldn't that be interesting.

So then CUSA is at 13 and SBC is at 9.
Then it could get real intersting. Marshall fans are very unhappy and USM. TxSt would really like to be with more Texas teams. So what is the next move. Does the SBC invite NMSU as full members and stay at 10? or maybe a bold move and extend USM an offer? Is 3 the charm for Marshall and the MAC? So many possibilities. We'll just have to see what the Big12 does and then let the chaos ensue.


I could also see a scenario that the CUSA loses 3 teams and replaces just one with either TxST or GaSt and claims the CUSA is still the best because no SBC would turn down a CUSA invite. The SBC then adds NMSU (unless they've gone to the MWC) or tries one last time for JMU to keep a tighter footprint (and add a better state for markets and recruiting). Either way its not that big of a deal and likely we sit at 9 teams and cancel the CCG (no need if everyone is playing each other anyway).

I dont know what you guys are smokin. there is probably not one fan or supporter of texas or ou that considers memphis or cincy or crimeny, niu a peer. texas is the top sports revenue producer of all schools and texas and ou and to some degree most of the other b12 programs have a long history of playing sports at the highest level and the b12 is not desperate enough to add anyone that they dont consider worthy. they would in fact feel like they were diluting their product to even grudgingly add byu and houston, the two most appealing adds IMHO.

(07-20-2016 07:07 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:31 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 06:29 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  A big question is if the big 12 does take 4 teams (which would most surely reignite a realignment phase) could this actually open the doors for a SBC/CUSA merger?

Here we go

The bigger question is...if there were a merger, how would you lay out the new conferences? And...discuss!

Here we go again.

New East Conference:
FAU
Coastal or Charlotte
GS
Ga State
App
MTSU
WKU
ODU
Marshall
Troy
USA
USM

All the other teams can make a western conference while FIU and UAB just drop football and stick to research

(07-20-2016 07:12 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 06:59 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 06:33 AM)panama Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 05:26 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(07-19-2016 07:38 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Cincinatti, Memphis, BYU, and Colorado St.

I think Houston goes instead of BYU.

Then:
Rice backfills for UH.

ODU backfills for Cincinnati

USM backfills for Memphis

UTEP backfills for Colorado St

Then:

JMU, App St, GSU, or GA St backfills in CUSA East

USA, ULL, or Ark St backfills in CUSA West

OR:

AIRPORT MEETING is called immediately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buahahaha

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Why would so the SBC jump to join a gutted CUSA who would be on life-support?


IF AAC loses 4 members (which is questionable) then they could simple only replace 2 and sit at 10 (like the SBC) and wait and see. This may shock a few on hear, but I could see the AAC grabbing GSU (state) as one of the teams. They offer a big market, recruiting, academics are in line with other schools, and a lot of potential in the athletic dept especially with the new development deal. But there is still a lot of risk with virtually no support. They could also grab ODU for similar reasons. Wouldn't that be interesting.

So then CUSA is at 13 and SBC is at 9.
Then it could get real intersting. Marshall fans are very unhappy and USM. TxSt would really like to be with more Texas teams. So what is the next move. Does the SBC invite NMSU as full members and stay at 10? or maybe a bold move and extend USM an offer? Is 3 the charm for Marshall and the MAC? So many possibilities. We'll just have to see what the Big12 does and then let the chaos ensue.


I could also see a scenario that the CUSA loses 3 teams and replaces just one with either TxST or GaSt and claims the CUSA is still the best because no SBC would turn down a CUSA invite. The SBC then adds NMSU (unless they've gone to the MWC) or tries one last time for JMU to keep a tighter footprint (and add a better state for markets and recruiting). Either way its not that big of a deal and likely we sit at 9 teams and cancel the CCG (no need if everyone is playing each other anyway).

I dont know what you guys are smokin. there is probably not one fan or supporter of texas or ou that considers memphis or cincy or crimeny, niu a peer. texas is the top sports revenue producer of all schools and texas and ou and to some degree most of the other b12 programs have a long history of playing sports at the highest level and the b12 is not desperate enough to add anyone that they dont consider worthy. they would in fact feel like they were diluting their product to even grudgingly add byu and houston, the two most appealing adds IMHO.

UC seems to be one of the top candidates from the talk, but maybe thats just wishful thinking. Texas fans seem to really like UCF too. This may all just fizzle and nothing happens or the Big12 adds 4 teams and total chaos rains down on the FBS as P5 and G5 totally reshuffle.