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(04-08-2016 08:19 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  Would his eligibility clock start when he went to BS? If so that'd be an...interesting move.

If he does not play I don't think he loses a year of eligibility. I am assuming that everyone gets 4 years of playing eligibility.

Here is BS's website: http://www.bryantstratton.edu/locations/...inia-beach

(04-08-2016 08:22 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(04-08-2016 08:19 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  Would his eligibility clock start when he went to BS? If so that'd be an...interesting move.

Think about it.....Wouldn't he go to a bigger and better JUCO if that wasn't the case? I might be reaching but I am trying to put this together.

I guess? But doesn't everyone start their clock when anyone goes to college? For example, my eligibility has expired even though I haven't played a lick of div 1 collegiate athletics since I spent 4 years at ODU. I know it's a for-profit, but if the rules don't affect a for-profit, then are Grand Canyon University's student athletes eligible to transfer somewhere else after their 4 years there? I guess maybe if you go to a for-profit that doesn't sponsor athletics?

Or maybe it's so he can get a degree in 1 year and transfer to ODU.

(04-08-2016 08:37 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(04-08-2016 08:22 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(04-08-2016 08:19 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  Would his eligibility clock start when he went to BS? If so that'd be an...interesting move.

Think about it.....Wouldn't he go to a bigger and better JUCO if that wasn't the case? I might be reaching but I am trying to put this together.

I guess? But doesn't everyone start their clock when anyone goes to college? For example, my eligibility has expired even though I haven't played a lick of div 1 collegiate athletics since I spent 4 years at ODU. I know it's a for-profit, but if the rules don't affect a for-profit, then are Grand Canyon University's student athletes eligible to transfer somewhere else after their 4 years there? I guess maybe if you go to a for-profit that doesn't sponsor athletics?

Or maybe it's so he can get a degree in 1 year and transfer to ODU.

Or maybe you get a certain amount of time once you are enrolled. Like you get 5 years to complete 4 years on the court/field.

(04-08-2016 08:39 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(04-08-2016 08:37 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(04-08-2016 08:22 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(04-08-2016 08:19 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  Would his eligibility clock start when he went to BS? If so that'd be an...interesting move.

Think about it.....Wouldn't he go to a bigger and better JUCO if that wasn't the case? I might be reaching but I am trying to put this together.

I guess? But doesn't everyone start their clock when anyone goes to college? For example, my eligibility has expired even though I haven't played a lick of div 1 collegiate athletics since I spent 4 years at ODU. I know it's a for-profit, but if the rules don't affect a for-profit, then are Grand Canyon University's student athletes eligible to transfer somewhere else after their 4 years there? I guess maybe if you go to a for-profit that doesn't sponsor athletics?

Or maybe it's so he can get a degree in 1 year and transfer to ODU.

Or maybe you get a certain amount of time once you are enrolled. Like you get 5 years to complete 4 years on the court/field.

Although this article is about D-1 hockey( http://www.playyourgame.com/ncaa_eligibi...ained.html ), I think the same rules apply to basketball.

Quote:14.2.1 Five-Year Rule - A student-athlete shall complete his or her seasons of participation within five calendar years from the beginning of the semester or quarter in which the student-athlete first registered for a minimum full-time program of studies in a collegiate institution, with time spent in the armed services, on official church missions or with recognized foreign aid services of the U.S. government being excepted. For foreign students, service in the armed forces or on an official church mission of the student's home country is considered equivalent to such service in the United States.

So maybe the plan is for him to go to BS part time and then transfer? At this point why not just go to a prep school like Talley? Unless that would start the clock too, or you don't want him getting in front of more coach's eyes.

Yeah, but we don't need to replace all of that scoring in the backcourt. You have to figure that Stith and Talley could both be 15 ppg guys, and Caver could be a 6-10 ppg guy. Add in BJ, Colbert, Porter, and Kah, and collectively we shouldn't have any problem replacing 36 ppg.

(04-07-2016 12:40 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  Tre Evans is likely to land at OSU now that his father has been hired there.

Where did you see the news that he was hired by OSU? I assumed it to be true when I read it here, but now that I'm searching for it, I'm not so sure. OSU hired the former South Carolina assistant, Lamont Evans, but that's not Tre's dad. Tre's dad's name is Terry.

The last I had heard, Tre wanted to go to Tulsa, we wouldn't release him to them (which sounds like something fishy was going on there), so he was going to go to prep school for a year.

Coach, thanks for that Tulsa tidbit too.

(04-07-2016 10:30 PM)Bwebb009 Wrote:  

(04-07-2016 10:20 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Not at all impressed by his (Bonds) shooting stats - 25% from 3 and 51% from the free throw line. Don't see what the attraction is here.

kid can defend, 104 steels I think. Also can rebound at six a game. Says his best attribute is his vision which could be perfect for us with all the weapons we should have. I can at least see the initial attraction.

If your point guard can't score, you start from a disadvantage regardless of weapons you have at other positions.

(04-08-2016 08:39 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(04-08-2016 08:37 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(04-08-2016 08:22 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(04-08-2016 08:19 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  Would his eligibility clock start when he went to BS? If so that'd be an...interesting move.

Think about it.....Wouldn't he go to a bigger and better JUCO if that wasn't the case? I might be reaching but I am trying to put this together.

I guess? But doesn't everyone start their clock when anyone goes to college? For example, my eligibility has expired even though I haven't played a lick of div 1 collegiate athletics since I spent 4 years at ODU. I know it's a for-profit, but if the rules don't affect a for-profit, then are Grand Canyon University's student athletes eligible to transfer somewhere else after their 4 years there? I guess maybe if you go to a for-profit that doesn't sponsor athletics?

Or maybe it's so he can get a degree in 1 year and transfer to ODU.

Or maybe you get a certain amount of time once you are enrolled. Like you get 5 years to complete 4 years on the court/field.

This is accurate. Players do get 5 years to complete 4, and the clock starts when they enroll in their first class.

Unfortunately I do not. I know it's coming very soon. If I tell you that Gerard Simpkins is a non qualifier and the player is a local high school scoring guard you should be able to figure out who I am talking about. I cannot tell you exactly who it is because someone has trusted me with this information and I know a lot of people are anxious but I have given you enough information to narrow it down.
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(04-08-2016 07:45 AM)757ODU Wrote:  So...I made the call this morning and Gerard Simpkins was the commitment. There have been some hold ups with his eligibility and he is headed to a juco (Bryant & Stratton). There was word straight from his mouth saying that he has committed to ODU. The theory behind it is that he heads to Bryant & Stratton for a year and then comes to ODU after. Not sure what to make out of all of this but the commitment was there and there was the thought that they could get him into the school. Obviously it fell through and that is why we didn't hear anything.

I do believe the idead that he could be coming to ODU after B&S because this kid could go to any JUCO and play at a very high level. We will see what transpires with all of this but that is all the news I have at this point.

This makes no sense. If Simpkins is a non qualifier, his plan makes no sense. Which IMO means that ODU never offered him, he might have committed, but it doesn't look like he was offered

(04-08-2016 06:10 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-05-2016 08:40 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

Unfortunately I do not. I know it's coming very soon. If I tell you that Gerard Simpkins is a non qualifier and the player is a local high school scoring guard you should be able to figure out who I am talking about. I cannot tell you exactly who it is because someone has trusted me with this information and I know a lot of people are anxious but I have given you enough information to narrow it down.

(04-08-2016 07:45 AM)757ODU Wrote:  So...I made the call this morning and Gerard Simpkins was the commitment. There have been some hold ups with his eligibility and he is headed to a juco (Bryant & Stratton). There was word straight from his mouth saying that he has committed to ODU. The theory behind it is that he heads to Bryant & Stratton for a year and then comes to ODU after. Not sure what to make out of all of this but the commitment was there and there was the thought that they could get him into the school. Obviously it fell through and that is why we didn't hear anything.

I do believe the idead that he could be coming to ODU after B&S because this kid could go to any JUCO and play at a very high level. We will see what transpires with all of this but that is all the news I have at this point.

This makes no sense. If Simpkins is a non qualifier, his plan makes no sense. Which IMO means that ODU never offered him, he might have committed, but it doesn't look like he was offered
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Gerard was a non-qualifier, then they thought he qualified and they had a way for him to enroll, so he commits. Then they find out there are in fact other issues and he is still a non-qualifier, so can't enroll. All of this happens before the commitment hits the press. Not too hard to believe.

(04-08-2016 06:48 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(04-08-2016 06:10 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-05-2016 08:40 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

Unfortunately I do not. I know it's coming very soon. If I tell you that Gerard Simpkins is a non qualifier and the player is a local high school scoring guard you should be able to figure out who I am talking about. I cannot tell you exactly who it is because someone has trusted me with this information and I know a lot of people are anxious but I have given you enough information to narrow it down.

(04-08-2016 07:45 AM)757ODU Wrote:  So...I made the call this morning and Gerard Simpkins was the commitment. There have been some hold ups with his eligibility and he is headed to a juco (Bryant & Stratton). There was word straight from his mouth saying that he has committed to ODU. The theory behind it is that he heads to Bryant & Stratton for a year and then comes to ODU after. Not sure what to make out of all of this but the commitment was there and there was the thought that they could get him into the school. Obviously it fell through and that is why we didn't hear anything.

I do believe the idead that he could be coming to ODU after B&S because this kid could go to any JUCO and play at a very high level. We will see what transpires with all of this but that is all the news I have at this point.

This makes no sense. If Simpkins is a non qualifier, his plan makes no sense. Which IMO means that ODU never offered him, he might have committed, but it doesn't look like he was offered

Gerard was a non-qualifier, then they thought he qualified and they had a way for him to enroll, so he commits. Then they find out there are in fact other issues and he is still a non-qualifier, so can't enroll. All of this happens before the commitment hits the press. Not too hard to believe.
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Very hard to believe.

OMG can anyone say Ramone Sn.........never mind.

Will Simpkins play at B&S, or just attend classes? There is no mention of him in this recruiting article.

http://recruit757.com/basketball/bryant-...irst-year/

(04-08-2016 08:37 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  OMG can anyone say Ramone Sn.........never mind.

We will see exactly what we missed out on in the caa next year.

If he doesn't average at least bacote numbers I'll be greatly surprised.

(04-08-2016 06:10 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-05-2016 08:40 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

Unfortunately I do not. I know it's coming very soon. If I tell you that Gerard Simpkins is a non qualifier and the player is a local high school scoring guard you should be able to figure out who I am talking about. I cannot tell you exactly who it is because someone has trusted me with this information and I know a lot of people are anxious but I have given you enough information to narrow it down.

(04-08-2016 07:45 AM)757ODU Wrote:  So...I made the call this morning and Gerard Simpkins was the commitment. There have been some hold ups with his eligibility and he is headed to a juco (Bryant & Stratton). There was word straight from his mouth saying that he has committed to ODU. The theory behind it is that he heads to Bryant & Stratton for a year and then comes to ODU after. Not sure what to make out of all of this but the commitment was there and there was the thought that they could get him into the school. Obviously it fell through and that is why we didn't hear anything.

I do believe the idead that he could be coming to ODU after B&S because this kid could go to any JUCO and play at a very high level. We will see what transpires with all of this but that is all the news I have at this point.

This makes no sense. If Simpkins is a non qualifier, his plan makes no sense. Which IMO means that ODU never offered him, he might have committed, but it doesn't look like he was offered
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Semantics

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(04-09-2016 07:54 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(04-08-2016 06:10 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-05-2016 08:40 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

Unfortunately I do not. I know it's coming very soon. If I tell you that Gerard Simpkins is a non qualifier and the player is a local high school scoring guard you should be able to figure out who I am talking about. I cannot tell you exactly who it is because someone has trusted me with this information and I know a lot of people are anxious but I have given you enough information to narrow it down.

(04-08-2016 07:45 AM)757ODU Wrote:  So...I made the call this morning and Gerard Simpkins was the commitment. There have been some hold ups with his eligibility and he is headed to a juco (Bryant & Stratton). There was word straight from his mouth saying that he has committed to ODU. The theory behind it is that he heads to Bryant & Stratton for a year and then comes to ODU after. Not sure what to make out of all of this but the commitment was there and there was the thought that they could get him into the school. Obviously it fell through and that is why we didn't hear anything.

I do believe the idead that he could be coming to ODU after B&S because this kid could go to any JUCO and play at a very high level. We will see what transpires with all of this but that is all the news I have at this point.

This makes no sense. If Simpkins is a non qualifier, his plan makes no sense. Which IMO means that ODU never offered him, he might have committed, but it doesn't look like he was offered

Semantics

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Big difference between a walk-on and a scholarship player.

(04-09-2016 04:46 PM)ODUi Wrote:  Will Simpkins play at B&S, or just attend classes? There is no mention of him in this recruiting article.

http://recruit757.com/basketball/bryant-...irst-year/

Doesn't do him any good to just take classes....... non qualifiers have to graduate from the JUCO to be eligible at the next institution.

(04-10-2016 02:11 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 04:46 PM)ODUi Wrote:  Will Simpkins play at B&S, or just attend classes? There is no mention of him in this recruiting article.

http://recruit757.com/basketball/bryant-...irst-year/

Doesn't do him any good to just take classes....... non qualifiers have to graduate from the JUCO to be eligible at the next institution.

It actually saves him a year of eligibility if he only takes classes.