(02-08-2016 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  As to who started it...who followed who? Easy answer.

Speculation. If Zimmerman started following Martin and Martin never stopped walking what happens?

(02-08-2016 01:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  As to who started it...who followed who? Easy answer.

Speculation. If Zimmerman started following Martin and Martin never stopped walking what happens?

That scenario couldnt happen, as Martin was high and had been hitting the sizzzzurp. The sh*t was going to go down.

(02-08-2016 01:07 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  As to who started it...who followed who? Easy answer.

Speculation. If Zimmerman started following Martin and Martin never stopped walking what happens?

That scenario couldnt happen, as Martin was high and had been hitting the sizzzzurp. The sh*t was going to go down.

I just think it's funny that they put more stock in their own speculation than in the testimony in court.

(02-08-2016 01:11 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:07 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  As to who started it...who followed who? Easy answer.

Speculation. If Zimmerman started following Martin and Martin never stopped walking what happens?

That scenario couldnt happen, as Martin was high and had been hitting the sizzzzurp. The sh*t was going to go down.

I just think it's funny that they put more stock in their own speculation than in the testimony in court.

you know liberals dont care about facts... remember the "hands up, dont shoot" narrative?

(02-08-2016 01:18 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:11 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:07 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  As to who started it...who followed who? Easy answer.

Speculation. If Zimmerman started following Martin and Martin never stopped walking what happens?

That scenario couldnt happen, as Martin was high and had been hitting the sizzzzurp. The sh*t was going to go down.

I just think it's funny that they put more stock in their own speculation than in the testimony in court.

you know liberals dont care about facts... remember the "hands up, dont shoot" narrative?

What part of the Zimmerman case has been made that wasn't factual?

(02-08-2016 02:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:18 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:11 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:07 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Speculation. If Zimmerman started following Martin and Martin never stopped walking what happens?

That scenario couldnt happen, as Martin was high and had been hitting the sizzzzurp. The sh*t was going to go down.

I just think it's funny that they put more stock in their own speculation than in the testimony in court.

you know liberals dont care about facts... remember the "hands up, dont shoot" narrative?

What part of the Zimmerman case has been made that wasn't factual?

so you arent speculating?

(02-08-2016 02:07 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:18 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:11 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:07 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  That scenario couldnt happen, as Martin was high and had been hitting the sizzzzurp. The sh*t was going to go down.

I just think it's funny that they put more stock in their own speculation than in the testimony in court.

you know liberals dont care about facts... remember the "hands up, dont shoot" narrative?

What part of the Zimmerman case has been made that wasn't factual?

so you arent speculating?

What part?

(02-08-2016 02:10 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:07 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:18 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:11 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I just think it's funny that they put more stock in their own speculation than in the testimony in court.

you know liberals dont care about facts... remember the "hands up, dont shoot" narrative?

What part of the Zimmerman case has been made that wasn't factual?

so you arent speculating?

What part?

(02-08-2016 02:13 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:10 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:07 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:18 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  you know liberals dont care about facts... remember the "hands up, dont shoot" narrative?

What part of the Zimmerman case has been made that wasn't factual?

so you arent speculating?

What part?

I knew you wouldn't be able to answer that question.

(02-08-2016 02:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:18 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:11 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:07 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Speculation. If Zimmerman started following Martin and Martin never stopped walking what happens?

That scenario couldnt happen, as Martin was high and had been hitting the sizzzzurp. The sh*t was going to go down.

I just think it's funny that they put more stock in their own speculation than in the testimony in court.

you know liberals dont care about facts... remember the "hands up, dont shoot" narrative?

What part of the Zimmerman case has been made that wasn't factual?

As far as we know, everything presented in the case was factual testimony given under oath. The speculation is the apparent insistence that Martin was 'defending' himself, and that he 'knew' Zimmerman had a loaded weapon.

(02-08-2016 02:25 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:18 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:11 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:07 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  That scenario couldnt happen, as Martin was high and had been hitting the sizzzzurp. The sh*t was going to go down.

I just think it's funny that they put more stock in their own speculation than in the testimony in court.

you know liberals dont care about facts... remember the "hands up, dont shoot" narrative?

What part of the Zimmerman case has been made that wasn't factual?

As far as we know, everything presented in the case was factual testimony given under oath. The speculation is the apparent insistence that Martin was 'defending' himself, and that he 'knew' Zimmerman had a loaded weapon.

I never said Martin knew Zimmerman had a loaded weapon.

(02-08-2016 02:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:13 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:10 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:07 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What part of the Zimmerman case has been made that wasn't factual?

so you arent speculating?

What part?

I knew you wouldn't be able to answer that question.

NOT WANTING TO and NOT BEING ABLE TO are two different things

(02-08-2016 12:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So if someone was following you in the dark with a loaded weapon you wouldn't feel the need to defend yourself?

(02-08-2016 02:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I never said Martin knew Zimmerman had a loaded weapon.

You implied it.

(02-08-2016 02:10 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:07 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:18 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:11 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I just think it's funny that they put more stock in their own speculation than in the testimony in court.

you know liberals dont care about facts... remember the "hands up, dont shoot" narrative?

What part of the Zimmerman case has been made that wasn't factual?

so you arent speculating?

What part?

Pretty much your entire narrative in this thread (and in the Martin case in general) is speculation.

(02-08-2016 01:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  As to who started it...who followed who? Easy answer.

Speculation. If Zimmerman started following Martin and Martin never stopped walking what happens?

IIRC, there were no accounts anywhere that Martin first started following Zimmerman. Even Zimmerman didn't say that. Maybe after it got started, but the initial action by Zimmerman to follow the scary kid in a hoodie started the whole event.

That's all I'm saying.

(02-08-2016 02:41 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So if someone was following you in the dark with a loaded weapon you wouldn't feel the need to defend yourself?

(02-08-2016 02:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I never said Martin knew Zimmerman had a loaded weapon.

You implied it.

No you just misinterpreted what I said.

(02-08-2016 02:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  As to who started it...who followed who? Easy answer.

Speculation. If Zimmerman started following Martin and Martin never stopped walking what happens?

IIRC, there were no accounts anywhere that Martin first started following Zimmerman. Even Zimmerman didn't say that. Maybe after it got started, but the initial action by Zimmerman to follow the scary kid in a hoodie started the whole event.

That's all I'm saying.

Correct. The actual account was that Trayvon AMBUSHED Zimmerman.

(02-08-2016 02:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  As to who started it...who followed who? Easy answer.

Speculation. If Zimmerman started following Martin and Martin never stopped walking what happens?

IIRC, there were no accounts anywhere that Martin first started following Zimmerman. Even Zimmerman didn't say that. Maybe after it got started, but the initial action by Zimmerman to follow the scary kid in a hoodie started the whole event.

That's all I'm saying.

Still didn't answer my question. What happens if Martin just keeps walking and then goes into the house he was staying at?

(02-08-2016 02:55 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 01:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  As to who started it...who followed who? Easy answer.

Speculation. If Zimmerman started following Martin and Martin never stopped walking what happens?

IIRC, there were no accounts anywhere that Martin first started following Zimmerman. Even Zimmerman didn't say that. Maybe after it got started, but the initial action by Zimmerman to follow the scary kid in a hoodie started the whole event.

That's all I'm saying.

Still didn't answer my question. What happens if Martin just keeps walking and then goes into the house he was staying at?

Z probably fires a warning shot at him.

(02-08-2016 02:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:41 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 12:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So if someone was following you in the dark with a loaded weapon you wouldn't feel the need to defend yourself?

(02-08-2016 02:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I never said Martin knew Zimmerman had a loaded weapon.

You implied it.

No you just misinterpreted what I said.

I stated early that you were just speculating and you didn't correct me then, why do so now?

You certainly implied that Martin new Zimmerman was armed when following him, otherwise why bring it up?

If you didn't realize what you were implying, I suggest taking a few classes on the English language and maybe some on critical thinking and reasoning as well.