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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
I'd like to see what a Craft/Tarrant backcourt could do, with Lawson/Lawson/Shaq in the frontcourt.
12-22-2015 10:10 AM
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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
(12-21-2015 11:50 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Burrell will be starting over Lawson. It is Lawson who is out of control at the start and taking poor shots. I know this goes over the heads of too many of you. But it will help him get into the flow of the game by coming off the bench. He will be in the game in the first two minutes. But he is out of control and starting slow.

This is something Cal did, something Finch did, something Kirk did and even Bartow did it.

Hey ncrdbl1 - Edmiston just said on the radio that when Dedric is out of the game, our opponents shoot 80% around the bucket. 80% - never heard of such a statistic.

Can you please explain again how benching Dedric to start games helps?

Please use really short, monosyllabic words, since your brilliant, mensa-level observations will certainly be over the heads of many of us.
12-22-2015 10:28 AM
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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
(12-22-2015 10:28 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(12-21-2015 11:50 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Burrell will be starting over Lawson. It is Lawson who is out of control at the start and taking poor shots. I know this goes over the heads of too many of you. But it will help him get into the flow of the game by coming off the bench. He will be in the game in the first two minutes. But he is out of control and starting slow.

This is something Cal did, something Finch did, something Kirk did and even Bartow did it.

Hey ncrdbl1 - Edmiston just said on the radio that when Dedric is out of the game, our opponents shoot 80% around the bucket. 80% - never heard of such a statistic.

Can you please explain again how benching Dedric to start games helps?

Please use really short, monosyllabic words, since your brilliant, mensa-level observations will certainly be over the heads of many of us.

Because he took a bad shot at the end of the game.

NASCAR likes to magnify player mistakes to mythical levels as a way to gloss over glaring coaching errors.
12-22-2015 10:31 AM
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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
(12-22-2015 10:31 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:28 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(12-21-2015 11:50 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Burrell will be starting over Lawson. It is Lawson who is out of control at the start and taking poor shots. I know this goes over the heads of too many of you. But it will help him get into the flow of the game by coming off the bench. He will be in the game in the first two minutes. But he is out of control and starting slow.

This is something Cal did, something Finch did, something Kirk did and even Bartow did it.

Hey ncrdbl1 - Edmiston just said on the radio that when Dedric is out of the game, our opponents shoot 80% around the bucket. 80% - never heard of such a statistic.

Can you please explain again how benching Dedric to start games helps?

Please use really short, monosyllabic words, since your brilliant, mensa-level observations will certainly be over the heads of many of us.

Because he took a bad shot at the end of the game.

NASCAR likes to magnify player mistakes to mythical levels as a way to gloss over glaring coaching errors.

There are 3 guys IMO that should start for sure

Dedric - for obvious reasons

Burrell - best all around player we have

Tarrant - best ballhandler , driver and free throw shooter


The rest are all interchangeable
12-22-2015 10:33 AM
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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
(12-22-2015 10:33 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:31 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:28 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(12-21-2015 11:50 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Burrell will be starting over Lawson. It is Lawson who is out of control at the start and taking poor shots. I know this goes over the heads of too many of you. But it will help him get into the flow of the game by coming off the bench. He will be in the game in the first two minutes. But he is out of control and starting slow.

This is something Cal did, something Finch did, something Kirk did and even Bartow did it.

Hey ncrdbl1 - Edmiston just said on the radio that when Dedric is out of the game, our opponents shoot 80% around the bucket. 80% - never heard of such a statistic.

Can you please explain again how benching Dedric to start games helps?

Please use really short, monosyllabic words, since your brilliant, mensa-level observations will certainly be over the heads of many of us.

Because he took a bad shot at the end of the game.

NASCAR likes to magnify player mistakes to mythical levels as a way to gloss over glaring coaching errors.

There are 3 guys IMO that should start for sure

Dedric - for obvious reasons

Burrell - best all around player we have

Tarrant - best ballhandler , driver and free throw shooter


The rest are all interchangeable

Tarrant has a high motor and nose for the ball - I feel like he could be a lock down defender.
12-22-2015 10:35 AM
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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
Again, 88% of our shots in the first half of the Ole Miss game were shots we shot 27% on...

We can change the lineup or whatever, but fact of the matter is - we don't have shooters & we don't run an offense.
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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
(12-22-2015 10:38 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Again, 88% of our shots in the first half of the Ole Miss game were shots we shot 27% on...

We can change the lineup or whatever, but fact of the matter is - we don't have shooters & we don't run an offense.

Yep. There's a reason we miss shots. The majority are because they are rushed or we don't get a good look because our half court offense is non existent
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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
(12-22-2015 10:31 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:28 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(12-21-2015 11:50 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Burrell will be starting over Lawson. It is Lawson who is out of control at the start and taking poor shots. I know this goes over the heads of too many of you. But it will help him get into the flow of the game by coming off the bench. He will be in the game in the first two minutes. But he is out of control and starting slow.

This is something Cal did, something Finch did, something Kirk did and even Bartow did it.

Hey ncrdbl1 - Edmiston just said on the radio that when Dedric is out of the game, our opponents shoot 80% around the bucket. 80% - never heard of such a statistic.

Can you please explain again how benching Dedric to start games helps?

Please use really short, monosyllabic words, since your brilliant, mensa-level observations will certainly be over the heads of many of us.

Because he took a bad shot at the end of the game.

NASCAR likes to magnify player mistakes to mythical levels as a way to gloss over glaring coaching errors.

You're right, Hoops. Ncrdbl1 only mentioned Dedric's bad 3-pointer in about 5 different threads. He's unique.
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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
(12-22-2015 10:33 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:31 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:28 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(12-21-2015 11:50 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Burrell will be starting over Lawson. It is Lawson who is out of control at the start and taking poor shots. I know this goes over the heads of too many of you. But it will help him get into the flow of the game by coming off the bench. He will be in the game in the first two minutes. But he is out of control and starting slow.

This is something Cal did, something Finch did, something Kirk did and even Bartow did it.

Hey ncrdbl1 - Edmiston just said on the radio that when Dedric is out of the game, our opponents shoot 80% around the bucket. 80% - never heard of such a statistic.

Can you please explain again how benching Dedric to start games helps?

Please use really short, monosyllabic words, since your brilliant, mensa-level observations will certainly be over the heads of many of us.

Because he took a bad shot at the end of the game.

NASCAR likes to magnify player mistakes to mythical levels as a way to gloss over glaring coaching errors.

There are 3 guys IMO that should start for sure

Dedric - for obvious reasons

Burrell - best all around player we have

Tarrant - best ballhandler , driver and free throw shooter


The rest are all interchangeable

Dead on. It's sad that Shaq is so unreliable at this point in his career. He runs up and down the court and does nothing.
12-22-2015 10:43 AM
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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
(12-22-2015 10:41 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:31 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:28 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(12-21-2015 11:50 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Burrell will be starting over Lawson. It is Lawson who is out of control at the start and taking poor shots. I know this goes over the heads of too many of you. But it will help him get into the flow of the game by coming off the bench. He will be in the game in the first two minutes. But he is out of control and starting slow.

This is something Cal did, something Finch did, something Kirk did and even Bartow did it.

Hey ncrdbl1 - Edmiston just said on the radio that when Dedric is out of the game, our opponents shoot 80% around the bucket. 80% - never heard of such a statistic.

Can you please explain again how benching Dedric to start games helps?

Please use really short, monosyllabic words, since your brilliant, mensa-level observations will certainly be over the heads of many of us.

Because he took a bad shot at the end of the game.

NASCAR likes to magnify player mistakes to mythical levels as a way to gloss over glaring coaching errors.

You're right, Hoops. Ncrdbl1 only mentioned Dedric's bad 3-pointer in about 5 different threads. He's unique.

His two favorite people are RC and Josh


Think about it
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Hey ncrdbl1 - Edmiston just said on the radio that when Dedric is out of the game, our opponents shoot 80% around the bucket. 80% - never heard of such a statistic.

Can you please explain again how benching Dedric to start games helps?

Please use really short, monosyllabic words, since your brilliant, mensa-level observations will certainly be over the heads of many of us.
[/quote]

Because he took a bad shot at the end of the game.

NASCAR likes to magnify player mistakes to mythical levels as a way to gloss over glaring coaching errors.
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You're right, Hoops. Ncrdbl1 only mentioned Dedric's bad 3-pointer in about 5 different threads. He's unique.
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His two favorite people are RC and Josh


Think about it
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And Woloshin probably. Makes my head hurt.
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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
(12-22-2015 10:43 AM)misplaced tiger Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:33 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:31 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:28 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(12-21-2015 11:50 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Burrell will be starting over Lawson. It is Lawson who is out of control at the start and taking poor shots. I know this goes over the heads of too many of you. But it will help him get into the flow of the game by coming off the bench. He will be in the game in the first two minutes. But he is out of control and starting slow.

This is something Cal did, something Finch did, something Kirk did and even Bartow did it.

Hey ncrdbl1 - Edmiston just said on the radio that when Dedric is out of the game, our opponents shoot 80% around the bucket. 80% - never heard of such a statistic.

Can you please explain again how benching Dedric to start games helps?

Please use really short, monosyllabic words, since your brilliant, mensa-level observations will certainly be over the heads of many of us.

Because he took a bad shot at the end of the game.

NASCAR likes to magnify player mistakes to mythical levels as a way to gloss over glaring coaching errors.

There are 3 guys IMO that should start for sure

Dedric - for obvious reasons

Burrell - best all around player we have

Tarrant - best ballhandler , driver and free throw shooter


The rest are all interchangeable

Dead on. It's sad that Shaq is so unreliable at this point in his career. He runs up and down the court and does nothing.

The kid rebounds. He's better than any other options we've got at the 5.
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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
(12-22-2015 10:44 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:41 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:31 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:28 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(12-21-2015 11:50 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Burrell will be starting over Lawson. It is Lawson who is out of control at the start and taking poor shots. I know this goes over the heads of too many of you. But it will help him get into the flow of the game by coming off the bench. He will be in the game in the first two minutes. But he is out of control and starting slow.

This is something Cal did, something Finch did, something Kirk did and even Bartow did it.

Hey ncrdbl1 - Edmiston just said on the radio that when Dedric is out of the game, our opponents shoot 80% around the bucket. 80% - never heard of such a statistic.

Can you please explain again how benching Dedric to start games helps?

Please use really short, monosyllabic words, since your brilliant, mensa-level observations will certainly be over the heads of many of us.

Because he took a bad shot at the end of the game.

NASCAR likes to magnify player mistakes to mythical levels as a way to gloss over glaring coaching errors.

You're right, Hoops. Ncrdbl1 only mentioned Dedric's bad 3-pointer in about 5 different threads. He's unique.

His two favorite people are RC and Josh


Think about it

Racecar guy has some of the worst sports takes I've ever heard.
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(12-22-2015 10:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:44 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:41 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:31 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:28 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Hey ncrdbl1 - Edmiston just said on the radio that when Dedric is out of the game, our opponents shoot 80% around the bucket. 80% - never heard of such a statistic.

Can you please explain again how benching Dedric to start games helps?

Please use really short, monosyllabic words, since your brilliant, mensa-level observations will certainly be over the heads of many of us.

Because he took a bad shot at the end of the game.

NASCAR likes to magnify player mistakes to mythical levels as a way to gloss over glaring coaching errors.

You're right, Hoops. Ncrdbl1 only mentioned Dedric's bad 3-pointer in about 5 different threads. He's unique.

His two favorite people are RC and Josh


Think about it

Racecar guy has some of the worst sports takes I've ever heard.

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(12-22-2015 10:38 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Again, 88% of our shots in the first half of the Ole Miss game were shots we shot 27% on...

We can change the lineup or whatever, but fact of the matter is - we don't have shooters & we don't run an offense.

In 6 years, this has been the case. I've consistently sat in my seats and watched undisciplined, fundamentally-unsound basketball. For the first 4, I thought "hey, next year it will click."
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(12-22-2015 10:56 AM)tiger2000 Wrote:  
(12-22-2015 10:38 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Again, 88% of our shots in the first half of the Ole Miss game were shots we shot 27% on...

We can change the lineup or whatever, but fact of the matter is - we don't have shooters & we don't run an offense.

In 6 years, this has been the case. I've consistently sat in my seats and watched undisciplined, fundamentally-unsound basketball. For the first 4, I thought "hey, next year it will click."

Well at least we've finally ditched the horns set
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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
I am going to say what most people who really know basketball are thinking: Dedric and KJ are looking to put up numbers when they are in the game-this is not high school anymore. Selfish play-when they get past that, this could be a pretty good team.
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(12-21-2015 05:10 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(12-21-2015 05:08 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(12-21-2015 12:21 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Moving Woodson to a role off the bench as shooter in spot minutes is one move in the correct direction...only should've been done at the beginning of LAST year.

SMH

Have you seen the Tigers play yet this season? Be honest, amigo.

Why would I waste my time watching that rubbish?

I've seen the same story for 6 years. All of a sudden it's different?

Pfffftttt.

And no matter what cutesy point you were trying to make, it doesn't change the fact that Woodson should come off the bench.

Rubbish? Did you type that with a fake British accent?

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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
JP is just looking for a way to get off to a faster start. The Tigers have had terrible starts to games. The last two games scoring 5 points in 5 minutes and 10 in 10 minutes. He's got to do something. A new coaching approach would be great but that aint happening.
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RE: Starting lineup shakeup says Pastner
One reason they start so slow is they are trying to run 100mph all of the time even when there’s nothing there. Rush, rush, rush.

Rushing jumpers, rushing passes, rushing rebounds, rushing layups, rushing everything. This is why they look so unorganized and out of control on offense. Because you can run a 4-4-40 doesn’t automatically equal a good shot. Rushing a shot, even if it is wide open, lowers your odds (percentage) of making it. It is also more difficult to get your feet set + balance for a shot when rushing it unless you have practiced at this tempo for a long long time.

Another thing to do when your perimeter shots aren’t falling is to get the ball inside. As of now these sets appears absent from our scheme and we rarely pass inside unless a player becomes totally wide open.

Too many faults for this coach & team and I see no way they’ll be corrected anytime soon.
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